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zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
April 08 2012 14:21 GMT
#301
On April 08 2012 23:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
Attention Town! Blazinghand is now officially too quiet for my liking! If he's not in here by halfway through the day, I move that he be our very first lurker lynch!

Who's with me?!


Its Blzinghand.

And considering that it is Easter Sunday he might just be busy today, im not comfortable lynching him solely based off that.
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
April 08 2012 14:22 GMT
#302
On April 08 2012 23:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 23:18 zelblade wrote:
On April 08 2012 23:16 Tunkeg wrote:
Tired of all the mindless squabbling he rose to his feet, and with a firm and commanding voice he said:

"I am Roland Rindoray.
And my lords and my ladies I have an announcement to make.
I have a very important role to play in this masquarade. I will not reveal it to you just yet. But if you pay close attention to my actions and to what I say you might be able to figure it out. If you do, keep it to yourself, for the love of our Queen! When the time is right I will reveal my secrets to you all.

Thats all."




wadafak

Please tell me this isnt a random blue claim.


Please tell me this isn't drawing attention to a random blue claim....

I don't even...


I see something out of place and wierd, I call it out. Ignoring it wouldnt make it harder to see for scum either way.
zelblade
Profile Joined December 2011
Australia901 Posts
April 08 2012 14:24 GMT
#303
EBWOP: Ignoring it wouldnt make it harder for scum to see either way.

Fail grammar sorry.
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
April 08 2012 14:41 GMT
#304
And I am in.

Besides a very nonsaying back and forth between ET and Risen this day have thus far been very uneventful. Not even the usual LAL discussions have been started, and no crazy gamebreaking strategies have been suggested. No real subject have been offered for discussion so I will give you my own:

How do you guys feel about a no lynch on day 1? What are your thoughts on random lynches?

I want to avoid a no lynch on day 1, because we want information and we want to know who vote who and why from the get go. As for a random lynch I am against a totally random lynch, but for a random lynch in the way we lynch the one who is the worst player.

And objectively speaking this is jackal58. At least this is the case for games started and finished in 2012 thus far. He is 1-7 in win loss with 1 draw. In my walkhrough of the games in 2012 (Kaller game and the resistance games not included) he is dead last with Jitsu and myself following behind.

+ Show Spoiler +

[image loading]


So you guys want to go random lynch on jackal's ass?
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 08 2012 14:45 GMT
#305
Oh Tunkeg - assigning a value to everyone and lynching the bottom nullifies the 'random' part of your random lynch silly.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
April 08 2012 14:45 GMT
#306
On April 08 2012 23:17 VisceraEyes wrote:
Attention Town! Blazinghand is now officially too quiet for my liking! If he's not in here by halfway through the day, I move that he be our very first lurker lynch!

Who's with me?!


Well is BH's meta stil inyaface comeatmebro I vote anyone who don't answer my "callouts" + Spam spam spam, only trumphed by that of toadestern? If yes then lynching him as a lurker is a good choice...
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
April 08 2012 14:46 GMT
#307
On April 08 2012 23:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
Oh Tunkeg - assigning a value to everyone and lynching the bottom nullifies the 'random' part of your random lynch silly.


It don't really. Because it is random wheather they are scum or town. That is the random part...
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
April 08 2012 14:47 GMT
#308
And the values are assigned by games won and lost with 10 for win and -10 for loss if a 50-50 set up (which is what I label a normal 2 party game), and then somewhat different if you win a game as a SK for instance (hence your high score).
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
April 08 2012 14:50 GMT
#309
LOL. Tunkeg calling out Jackal.
Those stats can't be right. which games did you count?
Jitsu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States929 Posts
April 08 2012 14:51 GMT
#310
Your system is fucked up Tnkeg. I've played more then five games and one more then one. Fairly sure.

Also, Someone take a gander at Grackroni. I've accused two people this game of being scum, but I REALLY think that he's scum.
Zerg Player in CheckMate Gaming - http://checkmategaming.webs.com/
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
April 08 2012 14:51 GMT
#311
Tunkeg - its not random. Otherwise you can call every lynch random because we won't know that they are scum or town (unless you are scum/in a setup with confirmation roles which won't apply in this game D1).
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
April 08 2012 14:52 GMT
#312
On April 08 2012 23:50 Grackaroni wrote:
LOL. Tunkeg calling out Jackal.
Those stats can't be right. which games did you count?


Every game in 2012 besides the 2 resistance games and the Kaller game (because that one looked to freaky)
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 08 2012 14:54 GMT
#313
Here's my issue - I don't know if you're scum or town, and you've selected Jackal to "randomly lynch". Now, I get that the assumption is that you're town, but if you're scum then there's a zero percent chance of Jackal flipping scum (unless you want to assume that a scum Tunkeg would put a scumbuddy up for a "random lynch"...I don't.)

As it stands, I like my BH lurker lynch more than I like a Jackal "random" lynch. Plus I haven't lol'd from a single post Jackal has made yet in-game (lol tiny bullets), so I'd feel kinda gypped if we lynched him today.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 08 2012 14:55 GMT
#314
Grack you say?! He said something questionable yesterday, lemme go filter...
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
slOosh
Profile Joined October 2009
3291 Posts
April 08 2012 14:59 GMT
#315
On April 08 2012 19:35 Toadesstern wrote:
Pretty easy. And yeah, you know I agree with VE when he said shooting/lynching lurkers is a nice thing to do. I agree that I don't like to lynch them early on because that gives so little information and it's really easy for mafia to just hop on lurker-wagons which essentially would give us 0 information. Of course that only works if we actually have vigs, so if there's no dead lurkers by the end of day 2 or day3 we might have to overthink that one.

So what is your conclusion on the matter of lurkers? Lynch them or no?

On April 08 2012 21:18 Toadesstern wrote:
I'd actually say Risen and WBG are the only ones being suspicious for me right now. I don't think ET is that weird.
However I liked the one post from Risen I quoted so that's given me a little townread.
Right now it really feels like what I thought about VE in storm. I had a bunch of things that made me think he's town, I had a bunch of things that made me think he's mafia and I didn't know what to make of that and he ended up being 3rd party but of course this is only day1 based on a couple hours of our game :p

To you WBG is suspicious but Kenpachi isn't? What exactly makes WBG suspicious?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
April 08 2012 15:00 GMT
#316
On April 08 2012 23:52 Tunkeg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 23:50 Grackaroni wrote:
LOL. Tunkeg calling out Jackal.
Those stats can't be right. which games did you count?


Every game in 2012 besides the 2 resistance games and the Kaller game (because that one looked to freaky)

Did you count Aperture? I should have a win!!!!!!

@Ve: lol, I would like to hear more about this questionable post because I've only made one non-troll post so far. I will stop trolling when real discussion starts though. Don't know how to start it myself without just randomly accusing somebody like Risen and theres no setup related things to discuss.
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
April 08 2012 15:00 GMT
#317
On April 08 2012 23:51 Jitsu wrote:
Your system is fucked up Tnkeg. I've played more then five games and one more then one. Fairly sure.

Also, Someone take a gander at Grackroni. I've accused two people this game of being scum, but I REALLY think that he's scum.


It is? I won't clutter up this thread with bickering, but I have registered these games on you in 2012:

Jubjub - Town - Loss
Storm - Town - Loss
NMM III- Scum - Loss (Hydra Bromancipate)
TL Mafia L - Town- Win
NMM II-Town- Loss

If you have other games then this I have fucked up and will have to start all over again with my recording.
Tunkeg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Norway1235 Posts
April 08 2012 15:01 GMT
#318
On April 09 2012 00:00 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 23:52 Tunkeg wrote:
On April 08 2012 23:50 Grackaroni wrote:
LOL. Tunkeg calling out Jackal.
Those stats can't be right. which games did you count?


Every game in 2012 besides the 2 resistance games and the Kaller game (because that one looked to freaky)

Did you count Aperture? I should have a win!!!!!!

@Ve: lol, I would like to hear more about this questionable post because I've only made one non-troll post so far. I will stop trolling when real discussion starts though. Don't know how to start it myself without just randomly accusing somebody like Risen and theres no setup related things to discuss.


Sorry The sum of all fears, Aparture and Game of Thrones aren't included. Will update with them later.
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
April 08 2012 15:03 GMT
#319
On April 08 2012 23:22 zelblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 23:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
On April 08 2012 23:18 zelblade wrote:
On April 08 2012 23:16 Tunkeg wrote:
Tired of all the mindless squabbling he rose to his feet, and with a firm and commanding voice he said:

"I am Roland Rindoray.
And my lords and my ladies I have an announcement to make.
I have a very important role to play in this masquarade. I will not reveal it to you just yet. But if you pay close attention to my actions and to what I say you might be able to figure it out. If you do, keep it to yourself, for the love of our Queen! When the time is right I will reveal my secrets to you all.

Thats all."




wadafak

Please tell me this isnt a random blue claim.


Please tell me this isn't drawing attention to a random blue claim....

I don't even...


I see something out of place and wierd, I call it out. Ignoring it wouldnt make it harder to see for scum either way.


Don't ever out blues. Ever. If you find a crumb, keep it to yourself. Although that one was pretty obvious so its fine, but keep that in mind.

@Tunkeg
You W/L ratio tab is wrong. That is a L/W ratio. A W/L ratio would show up as "3,00" for a 3 win 1 loss player, not 0.75

Also, it's not a random lynch when you got a reason for it.

And lastly, Jackal is certainly NOT a good day 1 target considering we got bullshit on Risen, ET, WBG, Kenpachi etcetera + it's still early.

And I'm against a BH lynch when we're on easter and he may very well be genuinely busy. In fact, not even scum BH would be absent day 1.
♥ The world needs more hearts! ♥
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
April 08 2012 15:04 GMT
#320
Ah now I remember - initially I was put off by the things Grack has commented on (not furthering the game at all)

He's made one content post, here

On April 08 2012 22:19 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm not going to vote for ET or Risen. ET has been playing completely fine and hasn't given me any scum vibes, don't lynch him. Risen's case on ET makes very little sense, however he's been acting in a very agressive manner and I don't think this is how scum players would generally act. (Especially if he is truly a noob like he said pre-game)
Does anyone know a game where risen has played as scum? Would be curious to see if he is usually this agressive.

WBG is trolling but he will probably play soon enough, Fourface has openly declared that he will be playing anti-town because he is annoyed that he is green.....
@Fourface : Just play the game... that's what you signed up to do. You must play to your win condition. If you are town and get vigged/lynched it will be your own fault for not caring and openly announcing you will be playing anti-town.


I agree with his stance on the whole ET/Risen thing (that is, I agree that ET has been playing just fine, and I didn't find his "smiley" or his "quote editing" to be particularly damning)....Jury's still out on Risen for me though - scum will be very aggressive if they feel like it makes them look townie, so his "aggressiveness" isn't clearing him for me.

Ultimately, I think Grack has contributed more in this single post than EITHER Echelon or Risen have. I'm personally not willing to lynch Grack based on what I've seen so far.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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