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On April 09 2012 00:00 Tunkeg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 23:51 Jitsu wrote:
Your system is fucked up Tnkeg. I've played more then five games and one more then one. Fairly sure.
Also, Someone take a gander at Grackroni. I've accused two people this game of being scum, but I REALLY think that he's scum. It is? I won't clutter up this thread with bickering, but I have registered these games on you in 2012: Jubjub - Town - Loss Storm - Town - Loss NMM III- Scum - Loss (Hydra Bromancipate) TL Mafia L - Town- Win NMM II-Town- Loss If you have other games then this I have fucked up and will have to start all over again with my recording.
Your compilation of stats is cool and all, but best leave that outside the game.
Right now, regardless of how accurate / valid your spreadsheet is, it isn't random. You could easily make up different categories upon which to judge people - e.g. who has most wins as scum.
You can't call it "random".
p.s. stop talking about your sheet itself. you are indeed "cluttering up this thread"
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On April 09 2012 00:03 Zephirdd wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 23:22 zelblade wrote:On April 08 2012 23:19 VisceraEyes wrote:On April 08 2012 23:18 zelblade wrote:On April 08 2012 23:16 Tunkeg wrote:
Tired of all the mindless squabbling he rose to his feet, and with a firm and commanding voice he said:
"I am Roland Rindoray.
And my lords and my ladies I have an announcement to make.
I have a very important role to play in this masquarade. I will not reveal it to you just yet. But if you pay close attention to my actions and to what I say you might be able to figure it out. If you do, keep it to yourself, for the love of our Queen! When the time is right I will reveal my secrets to you all.
Thats all."
wadafak Please tell me this isnt a random blue claim. Please tell me this isn't drawing attention to a random blue claim.... I don't even... I see something out of place and wierd, I call it out. Ignoring it wouldnt make it harder to see for scum either way. Don't ever out blues. Ever. If you find a crumb, keep it to yourself. Although that one was pretty obvious so its fine, but keep that in mind. @Tunkeg You W/L ratio tab is wrong. That is a L/W ratio. A W/L ratio would show up as "3,00" for a 3 win 1 loss player, not 0.75 Also, it's not a random lynch when you got a reason for it. And lastly, Jackal is certainly NOT a good day 1 target considering we got bullshit on Risen, ET, WBG, Kenpachi etcetera + it's still early. And I'm against a BH lynch when we're on easter and he may very well be genuinely busy. In fact, not even scum BH would be absent day 1.
Ok, we are both wrong then if you want to nitpick, it is a W/(W+L) ratio.
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On April 08 2012 23:51 Jitsu wrote:
Your system is fucked up Tnkeg. I've played more then five games and one more then one. Fairly sure.
Also, Someone take a gander at Grackroni. I've accused two people this game of being scum, but I REALLY think that he's scum.
Can you tell us why you think that before needing to wait for other's opinions?
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So why the hell are we discussing our past win loss ratios? Tunkeg's plan to "random lynch" Jackal for being "bad" doesnt make sense. It doesnt matter that Jackal has been losing game after game recently, its still a random lynch no matter how you put it, and thats something im not going to support.
The list does nothing for us except waste our time and help scum blend in by letting them agure about their w/l ratios and look active. Stop discussing it.
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On April 08 2012 23:41 Tunkeg wrote:And I am in. Besides a very nonsaying back and forth between ET and Risen this day have thus far been very uneventful. Not even the usual LAL discussions have been started, and no crazy gamebreaking strategies have been suggested. No real subject have been offered for discussion so I will give you my own: How do you guys feel about a no lynch on day 1? What are your thoughts on random lynches? I want to avoid a no lynch on day 1, because we want information and we want to know who vote who and why from the get go. As for a random lynch I am against a totally random lynch, but for a random lynch in the way we lynch the one who is the worst player. And objectively speaking this is jackal58. At least this is the case for games started and finished in 2012 thus far. He is 1-7 in win loss with 1 draw. In my walkhrough of the games in 2012 (Kaller game and the resistance games not included) he is dead last with Jitsu and myself following behind. + Show Spoiler +So you guys want to go random lynch on jackal's ass?
So it should be fairly obvious that when you jub jubs lynch or vig me on day 1 or day 2 town loses.
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Risen, I don't agree with what you are saying in regards to EchelonTee. You are voting him based on semantics over whether calling someone suspicious is an accusation. I think your case is paper thin and the fact that it gathered additional votes is concerning.
Fourface, posting cases riddled with sarcasm is not helpful at all. It clouds the point you are trying to make and makes reading your posts more difficult then necessary. Stop it.
On April 08 2012 23:41 Tunkeg wrote:And I am in. Besides a very nonsaying back and forth between ET and Risen this day have thus far been very uneventful. Not even the usual LAL discussions have been started, and no crazy gamebreaking strategies have been suggested. No real subject have been offered for discussion so I will give you my own: How do you guys feel about a no lynch on day 1? What are your thoughts on random lynches? I want to avoid a no lynch on day 1, because we want information and we want to know who vote who and why from the get go. As for a random lynch I am against a totally random lynch, but for a random lynch in the way we lynch the one who is the worst player. And objectively speaking this is jackal58. At least this is the case for games started and finished in 2012 thus far. He is 1-7 in win loss with 1 draw. In my walkhrough of the games in 2012 (Kaller game and the resistance games not included) he is dead last with Jitsu and myself following behind. + Show Spoiler +So you guys want to go random lynch on jackal's ass?
Tunkeg, in this post you mention the 'back and forth' between ET and Risen yet you don't comment on either's alignment or your thoughts on their dispute. What are your thoughts on both of them?
Lynching Jackal over him having a poor performance this year is ridiculous. We are not here to lynch bad players, only scum.
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+ Show Spoiler +On April 09 2012 00:12 Adam4167 wrote:Risen, I don't agree with what you are saying in regards to EchelonTee. You are voting him based on semantics over whether calling someone suspicious is an accusation. I think your case is paper thin and the fact that it gathered additional votes is concerning. Fourface, posting cases riddled with sarcasm is not helpful at all. It clouds the point you are trying to make and makes reading your posts more difficult then necessary. Stop it. Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 23:41 Tunkeg wrote:And I am in. Besides a very nonsaying back and forth between ET and Risen this day have thus far been very uneventful. Not even the usual LAL discussions have been started, and no crazy gamebreaking strategies have been suggested. No real subject have been offered for discussion so I will give you my own: How do you guys feel about a no lynch on day 1? What are your thoughts on random lynches? I want to avoid a no lynch on day 1, because we want information and we want to know who vote who and why from the get go. As for a random lynch I am against a totally random lynch, but for a random lynch in the way we lynch the one who is the worst player. And objectively speaking this is jackal58. At least this is the case for games started and finished in 2012 thus far. He is 1-7 in win loss with 1 draw. In my walkhrough of the games in 2012 (Kaller game and the resistance games not included) he is dead last with Jitsu and myself following behind. + Show Spoiler +So you guys want to go random lynch on jackal's ass? Tunkeg, in this post you mention the 'back and forth' between ET and Risen yet you don't comment on either's alignment or your thoughts on their dispute. What are your thoughts on both of them? Lynching Jackal over him having a poor performance this year is ridiculous. We are not here to lynch bad players, only scum.
My thoughts are that Risen made a joke about the smiley being suspect. ET overreacted, and then Risen overreacted again by voting for him. To me their brawl can be anything and nothing. It could be two bored townies going at it, one edgy scum overacting, or two scum "pretending" to fight to cause distance between eachother. I can't get nothing from the arguement, and get no reads from it. I just ignore that fight for now.
I agree we are here to lynch scum. But why would anyone bring up a random lynch? It is to generate discussion, and for people to take stances. And thats why I did it this time as well, but noone wanted to discuss random lynch at all, just the stats behind it (my bad for including that list).
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On April 09 2012 00:10 zelblade wrote:
So why the hell are we discussing our past win loss ratios? Tunkeg's plan to "random lynch" Jackal for being "bad" doesnt make sense. It doesnt matter that Jackal has been losing game after game recently, its still a random lynch no matter how you put it, and thats something im not going to support.
The list does nothing for us except waste our time and help scum blend in by letting them agure about their w/l ratios and look active. Stop discussing it.
What's the inference here? That people arguing about their ratios are scum? That Tunkeg is scum?
What should we discuss instead? Stop barking orders at people and lead by example. If you don't like what's being discussed, either navigate away from the thread or talk about something else. All bitching about it is doing is cluttering up the thread.
What do you think about WBG/Jackal?
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I somewhat resent my "performance" being called "poor". In all but two of those games I was either a day 1 or night one fatality. Of the other 2 I was a townie killed by a vig on night 2 once and I was mafia in the other and won as the sole remaining member of my team. The "poor" performance you speak of didn't belong to me, it belongs to the Jub jubs that killed me. I have no issues at all with shooting Tunkeg in the dick. That's strictly on a personal level though.
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On April 09 2012 00:07 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2012 23:51 Jitsu wrote:
Your system is fucked up Tnkeg. I've played more then five games and one more then one. Fairly sure.
Also, Someone take a gander at Grackroni. I've accused two people this game of being scum, but I REALLY think that he's scum. Can you tell us why you think that before needing to wait for other's opinions?
Because I have a brain and can think for myself.
There are a few reasons why I think Grackironi might be scum. If I didn't stop and literally look for his post, I would have forgotten he typed anything when I got to the end of the thread. I made it a point to go back and look.
I'm not overly impressed with his "contribution," either...None of what he said in that one post looks to be original, except for maybe calling out FourFace. It's like his entire post is camouflaged in. Whether it's about Risen, ET, or WBG, none of it is truly enlightening - it essentially says he's not going to vote for any of them right now.
C'mon, Grackbro. Give me something to redeem yourself.
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On April 09 2012 00:20 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 00:10 zelblade wrote:
So why the hell are we discussing our past win loss ratios? Tunkeg's plan to "random lynch" Jackal for being "bad" doesnt make sense. It doesnt matter that Jackal has been losing game after game recently, its still a random lynch no matter how you put it, and thats something im not going to support.
The list does nothing for us except waste our time and help scum blend in by letting them agure about their w/l ratios and look active. Stop discussing it. What's the inference here? That people arguing about their ratios are scum? That Tunkeg is scum? What should we discuss instead? Stop barking orders at people and lead by example. If you don't like what's being discussed, either navigate away from the thread or talk about something else. All bitching about it is doing is cluttering up the thread. What do you think about WBG/Jackal?
WBG annoys me on occasion. Jackal is the shit. Tunkeg is scum.
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Jackal, now....bro...
Is Tunkeg scum? Or is he just a JubJub with a spreadsheet?
What are your thoughts on the ET/Risen thing sir?
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Risen is paranoid beyond reason. I think I'm going to have to edit his posts every time I quote him just to watch him drool harder. ET has done nothing I would read as scummy so far.
Jub Jubs don't show up with spread sheets. Scum do.
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On April 09 2012 00:25 Jackal58 wrote:
I somewhat resent my "performance" being called "poor". In all but two of those games I was either a day 1 or night one fatality. Of the other 2 I was a townie killed by a vig on night 2 once and I was mafia in the other and won as the sole remaining member of my team. The "poor" performance you speak of didn't belong to me, it belongs to the Jub jubs that killed me. I have no issues at all with shooting Tunkeg in the dick. That's strictly on a personal level though.
On April 09 2012 00:26 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2012 00:20 VisceraEyes wrote:On April 09 2012 00:10 zelblade wrote:
So why the hell are we discussing our past win loss ratios? Tunkeg's plan to "random lynch" Jackal for being "bad" doesnt make sense. It doesnt matter that Jackal has been losing game after game recently, its still a random lynch no matter how you put it, and thats something im not going to support.
The list does nothing for us except waste our time and help scum blend in by letting them agure about their w/l ratios and look active. Stop discussing it. What's the inference here? That people arguing about their ratios are scum? That Tunkeg is scum? What should we discuss instead? Stop barking orders at people and lead by example. If you don't like what's being discussed, either navigate away from the thread or talk about something else. All bitching about it is doing is cluttering up the thread. What do you think about WBG/Jackal? WBG annoys me on occasion. Jackal is the shit. Tunkeg is scum.
U MAD BRO!!?
Well thats the way aha aha I like it!
Why am I scum btw?
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No I'm not mad. I'm simply pointing out what I see as a misconception.
Scum always pull out all the stops to kill me on day 1.
Only scum would trot out a spreadsheet that misrepresents a players ability and use that as a reason to kill him.
Particularly when that person had only one or two posts in the game at that point.
You scared bro?
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On April 09 2012 00:51 Jackal58 wrote:
No I'm not mad. I'm simply pointing out what I see as a misconception.
Scum always pull out all the stops to kill me on day 1.
Only scum would trot out a spreadsheet that misrepresents a players ability and use that as a reason to kill him.
Particularly when that person had only one or two posts in the game at that point.
You scared bro?
I am allways scared. But not because you want to shoot me in the dick, because frankly I don't think you are that much of a precision shooter (HELLO! Fun at my own expense).
And hey, don't blame me for your bad results this year. You can blame it on bad luck, you can blame it on you being lynched early because you are awesome. You can't blame it one the sunshine, you can't blame it on the moonlight, you can't blame it on the good times, you can blame it on the boogie.
If it weren't you it would have been Jitsu, and if it weren't him, then, well then, I wouldn't do it as I am next 
I wanted to see if someone would be interested in discussing a random lynch and I needed a target (Basing it on results is a good way I think). I don't know if you are good or bad or whatever, and I couldn't care less if you have some god complex thinking only mafia want to see you killed. But if that spreadsheet made you this sad I won't mention it again in here, I will just judge you by your perfomance in here. Now dry them tears mate, and put that gun away before you hurt someone...
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re and reading. I'm at tunkegs point thingy right now. Which games did you count and why am I at 3 games overall played? :p You only took my most recent 3 games? (I think those would be Storm, AC and L?)
But sadly that's not changing a thing since my overall stats are quite bad as well 
Think I'm something like 3-5 with losing both AC and storm in a really depressing 2v1-the-last-day-fashion or something like that.
I'll keep on reading, just had to point out that I found that list to be funny, especially Jackals 1-7-1 LOL :p
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On April 08 2012 23:41 Tunkeg wrote:
As for a random lynch I am against a totally random lynch, but for a random lynch in the way we lynch the one who is the worst player.
Yeah I want some clarification here. It basically boils down to you supporting lynching the "worst" player.
How does lynching the "worst" player help us?
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And can we seriously stop discussing the stupid spreadsheet?
It clutters the thread and doesn't help us catch scum.
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I was under the impression that the Jackal lynch was a joke but since Tunkeg is still going on about it then maybe I am mistaken. Jackal's stats may suggest that he is bad but in reality he is a good player who is frequently shot n1 by mafia and is one of the few veterans in this game. I would consider this suggestion no different than random lynching VE or WBG, it's a bad idea.
On April 09 2012 00:26 Jitsu wrote:
There are a few reasons why I think Grackironi might be scum. If I didn't stop and literally look for his post, I would have forgotten he typed anything when I got to the end of the thread. I made it a point to go back and look.
I'm not overly impressed with his "contribution," either...None of what he said in that one post looks to be original, except for maybe calling out FourFace. It's like his entire post is camouflaged in. Whether it's about Risen, ET, or WBG, none of it is truly enlightening - it essentially says he's not going to vote for any of them right now.
C'mon, Grackbro. Give me something to redeem yourself.
I have no reason to need to redeem myself lol.
That's not a few reasons you think that I'm scum, that's one reason : I've only made one post with content. The games just started and there isn't much to talk about. Take a look at your own filter and you would realize that you have no content either besides accusing me of not providing content. 
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