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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
RMonkeyF
Profile Joined April 2011
46 Posts
September 29 2012 20:25 GMT
#3021
Doodsmack confirmed hacker.

GG.
ButtCraft
Profile Joined March 2011
United States114 Posts
September 29 2012 20:31 GMT
#3022
On September 30 2012 05:24 Doodsmack wrote:
ButtCraft you need more than one replay of evidence to conclude he was hacking. That's especially the case when there's only one instance of suspicious activity in a relatively long game. Did he just choose to only take advantage of his hack for one drop throughout the game? It seems unlikely. It's an unlikely coincedence to move your camera over your opponent's army, but it does happen. I've been accused before when that is what happened.


Watch the replay. He moves his camera not over my army, but over the 4 medivacs approaching his main. He then sends his entire army into his main base.

What do you think is more likely? He anomalously looked at an obscure part of the map on accident and then sent his entire army to his main because he "sensed" a drop... or he had vision over the part of the map he was looking at and sent his entire army to his main because he saw the doom drop.
Sometimes you just gotta say fuck it, and swing for the fuckin fences
DanLee
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada316 Posts
September 29 2012 20:34 GMT
#3023
On September 30 2012 05:31 ButtCraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2012 05:24 Doodsmack wrote:
ButtCraft you need more than one replay of evidence to conclude he was hacking. That's especially the case when there's only one instance of suspicious activity in a relatively long game. Did he just choose to only take advantage of his hack for one drop throughout the game? It seems unlikely. It's an unlikely coincedence to move your camera over your opponent's army, but it does happen. I've been accused before when that is what happened.


Watch the replay. He moves his camera not over my army, but over the 4 medivacs approaching his main. He then sends his entire army into his main base.

What do you think is more likely? He anomalously looked at an obscure part of the map on accident and then sent his entire army to his main because he "sensed" a drop... or he had vision over the part of the map he was looking at and sent his entire army to his main because he saw the doom drop.

I didn't send my entire army, but I did indeed sense a drop. GG
nty
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
September 29 2012 20:42 GMT
#3024
On September 30 2012 05:31 ButtCraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2012 05:24 Doodsmack wrote:
ButtCraft you need more than one replay of evidence to conclude he was hacking. That's especially the case when there's only one instance of suspicious activity in a relatively long game. Did he just choose to only take advantage of his hack for one drop throughout the game? It seems unlikely. It's an unlikely coincedence to move your camera over your opponent's army, but it does happen. I've been accused before when that is what happened.


Watch the replay. He moves his camera not over my army, but over the 4 medivacs approaching his main. He then sends his entire army into his main base.

What do you think is more likely? He anomalously looked at an obscure part of the map on accident and then sent his entire army to his main because he "sensed" a drop... or he had vision over the part of the map he was looking at and sent his entire army to his main because he saw the doom drop.


i think he sent defense after watching the xel naga tower, but my memory is not that great.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
ButtCraft
Profile Joined March 2011
United States114 Posts
September 29 2012 20:42 GMT
#3025
On September 30 2012 05:34 DanLee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2012 05:31 ButtCraft wrote:
On September 30 2012 05:24 Doodsmack wrote:
ButtCraft you need more than one replay of evidence to conclude he was hacking. That's especially the case when there's only one instance of suspicious activity in a relatively long game. Did he just choose to only take advantage of his hack for one drop throughout the game? It seems unlikely. It's an unlikely coincedence to move your camera over your opponent's army, but it does happen. I've been accused before when that is what happened.


Watch the replay. He moves his camera not over my army, but over the 4 medivacs approaching his main. He then sends his entire army into his main base.

What do you think is more likely? He anomalously looked at an obscure part of the map on accident and then sent his entire army to his main because he "sensed" a drop... or he had vision over the part of the map he was looking at and sent his entire army to his main because he saw the doom drop.

I didn't send my entire army, but I did indeed sense a drop. GG



So what exactly were you doing with your camera then, when you looked directly at my 4 medivacs full of marines?

You didn't perform any actions, you simply moved your camera over my drop. I can understand if you looked there to send an overlord or something, but you performed no actions.

Furthermore, you sent an enormous amount of lings to your main following this little camera "accident" of yours.

I don't care what the past is, or what happened in the previous 16 minutes of the game, but this right here makes me 99.99999999% sure you were aware of the drop before you could possibly have seen it.
Sometimes you just gotta say fuck it, and swing for the fuckin fences
DanLee
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada316 Posts
September 29 2012 21:09 GMT
#3026
On September 30 2012 05:42 ButtCraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2012 05:34 DanLee wrote:
On September 30 2012 05:31 ButtCraft wrote:
On September 30 2012 05:24 Doodsmack wrote:
ButtCraft you need more than one replay of evidence to conclude he was hacking. That's especially the case when there's only one instance of suspicious activity in a relatively long game. Did he just choose to only take advantage of his hack for one drop throughout the game? It seems unlikely. It's an unlikely coincedence to move your camera over your opponent's army, but it does happen. I've been accused before when that is what happened.


Watch the replay. He moves his camera not over my army, but over the 4 medivacs approaching his main. He then sends his entire army into his main base.

What do you think is more likely? He anomalously looked at an obscure part of the map on accident and then sent his entire army to his main because he "sensed" a drop... or he had vision over the part of the map he was looking at and sent his entire army to his main because he saw the doom drop.

I didn't send my entire army, but I did indeed sense a drop. GG



So what exactly were you doing with your camera then, when you looked directly at my 4 medivacs full of marines?

You didn't perform any actions, you simply moved your camera over my drop. I can understand if you looked there to send an overlord or something, but you performed no actions.

Furthermore, you sent an enormous amount of lings to your main following this little camera "accident" of yours.

I don't care what the past is, or what happened in the previous 16 minutes of the game, but this right here makes me 99.99999999% sure you were aware of the drop before you could possibly have seen it.
Wanna bet?
nty
ButtCraft
Profile Joined March 2011
United States114 Posts
September 29 2012 21:10 GMT
#3027
20:30 is quite interesting too...
Sometimes you just gotta say fuck it, and swing for the fuckin fences
ButtCraft
Profile Joined March 2011
United States114 Posts
September 29 2012 21:18 GMT
#3028
The camera freezes in weird places at various points in the replay, too. It's almost as if there's some sort of feature in the hack that allows him to look at different places on the map with the camera manually frozen somewhere of his choice.
Sometimes you just gotta say fuck it, and swing for the fuckin fences
Savi[wOk]
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
United States81 Posts
September 29 2012 21:18 GMT
#3029
I'm guessing map hacking is still a major problem?
Even after the latest patch?
Lets play starcraft
RMonkeyF
Profile Joined April 2011
46 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-29 21:37:28
September 29 2012 21:31 GMT
#3030
ButtCraft. Your TL username is ButtCraft.

Let us think about this for a little while.

Okay, now that we've thought about this.

Your TL username is ButtCraft.

ButtCraft.

Do you understand why this is important?

1.If you are nodding your head yes, good job, you are retarded but understand you are retarded.
2.If you are shaking your head no, you are a complete failure to man-kind and should never post on a forum again.

If(MentalState == 1)
{
tempBanSelfFromInternet;
}
else
{
tiltGunToForhead;
}

User was temp banned for this post.
PauseBreak
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States270 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-29 21:32:38
September 29 2012 21:31 GMT
#3031
DanLee likes defending himself...interesting.
DanLee
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada316 Posts
September 29 2012 21:37 GMT
#3032
On September 30 2012 06:31 PauseBreak wrote:
DanLee likes defending himself...interesting.

My innocence is implied, I just enjoy the whole process here.

User was warned for this post
nty
PauseBreak
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States270 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-29 21:59:11
September 29 2012 21:51 GMT
#3033
On September 30 2012 06:37 DanLee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2012 06:31 PauseBreak wrote:
DanLee likes defending himself...interesting.

My innocence is implied, I just enjoy the whole process here.



I actually decided to watch the replay. The 16.50 mark is actually very interesting. The fact that you pan over there, with no sign nor OL in the vicinity, to "game sense" 4 medivac drop. To quickly mass up forces, but the convincing part was that you send your forces there before the medivacs even began to move out.

You can't explain why on earth you would pan over to "game sense" that area that you cannot see. And re-act to the fog of war. And don't tell me you were just admiring the blizzard designers art work of the Xel'naga Tower through the FOW.

You slipped up.
ButtCraft
Profile Joined March 2011
United States114 Posts
September 29 2012 21:58 GMT
#3034
Wow... Another one. This one is incredibly bad as the hacker made no attempt to cover the fact that he was hacking.

RapDawg, 800 pt master. http://drop.sc/259354

2:55 looks at my base

3:25 gets a niiiiiiice big glance at my base (hasn't scouted yet though)

6:00 glance

6:40 looks at medivac

7:00, 7:10, super damning

8:41

9:11-9:15

9:45-10:00

Here's the really funny one

12:58-13:25.


This really sucks, ladder seems like it's full of hackers.
Sometimes you just gotta say fuck it, and swing for the fuckin fences
AnnoyingNoob
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway18 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-29 22:10:49
September 29 2012 22:06 GMT
#3035
FXONooBTakkZ played against DeMuslim and is a maphacker for sure. Game starts at about 8 mins, and Demuslim analyzes it after. http://www.twitch.tv/demuslim/b/333903177
Marines - the hardcounter to banelings. - Idra
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
September 29 2012 22:31 GMT
#3036
On September 30 2012 06:51 PauseBreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2012 06:37 DanLee wrote:
On September 30 2012 06:31 PauseBreak wrote:
DanLee likes defending himself...interesting.

My innocence is implied, I just enjoy the whole process here.



I actually decided to watch the replay. The 16.50 mark is actually very interesting. The fact that you pan over there, with no sign nor OL in the vicinity, to "game sense" 4 medivac drop. To quickly mass up forces, but the convincing part was that you send your forces there before the medivacs even began to move out.

You can't explain why on earth you would pan over to "game sense" that area that you cannot see. And re-act to the fog of war. And don't tell me you were just admiring the blizzard designers art work of the Xel'naga Tower through the FOW.

You slipped up.

That's a hacker, trying to hide it. It's obvious, as the camera pan pans over nothing. Not to mention his very timely, and fast finding of this thread, and posting RIGHT after the guy calling him a hacker. Funny that, no?
Unbiased biased terran abuser Jeffrey. Sorry for the rage, friend!
DanLee
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada316 Posts
September 29 2012 22:38 GMT
#3037
On September 30 2012 07:31 iAmJeffReY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 30 2012 06:51 PauseBreak wrote:
On September 30 2012 06:37 DanLee wrote:
On September 30 2012 06:31 PauseBreak wrote:
DanLee likes defending himself...interesting.

My innocence is implied, I just enjoy the whole process here.



I actually decided to watch the replay. The 16.50 mark is actually very interesting. The fact that you pan over there, with no sign nor OL in the vicinity, to "game sense" 4 medivac drop. To quickly mass up forces, but the convincing part was that you send your forces there before the medivacs even began to move out.

You can't explain why on earth you would pan over to "game sense" that area that you cannot see. And re-act to the fog of war. And don't tell me you were just admiring the blizzard designers art work of the Xel'naga Tower through the FOW.

You slipped up.

That's a hacker, trying to hide it. It's obvious, as the camera pan pans over nothing. Not to mention his very timely, and fast finding of this thread, and posting RIGHT after the guy calling him a hacker. Funny that, no?

he told me about the thread...
nty
ButtCraft
Profile Joined March 2011
United States114 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-29 22:43:10
September 29 2012 22:42 GMT
#3038
Okay maybe I'm just overcome with paranoia right now but I need somebody to take a look at this replay because I'm 99% sure I've just played my 3rd hacker today.

llNphysics, points of interest are

13:15, 14:06, 18:30.


13:15 he reacts to a drop that he should have no idea is coming. 14:06 he looks at 2 of my tanks on the high ground through the fog of war and turns around, 18:30 he reacts to another drop he shouldn't see. He never scouts all game long, and has peculiar army movements indicative of somebody who knows where my army is at all times.


I also need somebody to confirm something for me. At precisely 18:42 of the replay, if you hit the "back" button while locked on to llNphysic's view, it does something very very strange. I think it's a bug in the hack or something.

Am I just paranoid right now? Somebody please take a look at this one.

I'm 99.999% sure the last 2 reps I posted were hackers, and am pretty sure this one is too.
Sometimes you just gotta say fuck it, and swing for the fuckin fences
Mazzi
Profile Joined August 2012
440 Posts
September 29 2012 22:46 GMT
#3039
That DanLee Replay is really suspect.....id say hacker. what a scum
ZweiGaming
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada348 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-30 05:30:29
September 29 2012 23:24 GMT
#3040
On September 30 2012 07:42 ButtCraft wrote:
Okay maybe I'm just overcome with paranoia right now but I need somebody to take a look at this replay because I'm 99% sure I've just played my 3rd hacker today.

llNphysics, points of interest are

13:15, 14:06, 18:30.


13:15 he reacts to a drop that he should have no idea is coming. 14:06 he looks at 2 of my tanks on the high ground through the fog of war and turns around, 18:30 he reacts to another drop he shouldn't see. He never scouts all game long, and has peculiar army movements indicative of somebody who knows where my army is at all times.


I also need somebody to confirm something for me. At precisely 18:42 of the replay, if you hit the "back" button while locked on to llNphysic's view, it does something very very strange. I think it's a bug in the hack or something.

Am I just paranoid right now? Somebody please take a look at this one.

I'm 99.999% sure the last 2 reps I posted were hackers, and am pretty sure this one is too.


Rapdawg is confirmed already, I haven't watched the 2 others yet but I'll do on Sunday.

On September 30 2012 03:11 ButtCraft wrote:
DanLee, has a ~600pt master MMR. http://drop.sc/259265

16:50 says it all, he looks at a doom drop through the fog of war and reacts to it before he could see it.

Funny because I still won, what a horrible player lol.



Can't confirm him based on 1 action in a whole game, was suspicious but could have been a lucky shot as he had map control all games. Nothing else suspicious noted during that game.
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