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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.
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On September 29 2012 08:56 HyperDesi wrote:
I dont really have to explain this but its kinda weird how you can say i hack considering I counted his probes and saw the angle his probe was coming from. From that I knew it had to be a proxy 2 gate and since the probe came from the ramp area the gateways are either on the high ground of the natural or in the choke. I have thousands of games played and have had this happen to me many times.
As for the cancel of the drone I have class at 2pm pst and it is a 15min commute so i wasnt really looking for a macro game and I had just played vs ReacT.
That's pretty much what I figured and explained a little earlier, thanks for confirming though 
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http://drop.sc/259137
Myaku is a mid-masters Terran I've known for a while. We had initially exposed his Jan.2012 dated D3Scene profile where he expressed his hacking interests. After confronting him I was told that he only hacked back in January when he had 'low self esteem' and that he didn't anymore.
Now aside from the background info I've obtained a replay of him playing against bakZ, a masters protoss.
Aside from suspicious fog vision, his production tab (or dashboard, whatever it is called) stalls at certain times, the way he scans is definitely suspicious. I'm trying to decipher it all, and I need the community's help in doing so.
Thank you
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http://drop.sc/259169
FXONooBTaKkZ
1100 points as of September 9, 2012. Rank 1 Masters
3 Pylon walloff que'd before any vision of my spawning location.
Tal' darim Alter LE
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DanLee, has a ~600pt master MMR. http://drop.sc/259265
16:50 says it all, he looks at a doom drop through the fog of war and reacts to it before he could see it.
Funny because I still won, what a horrible player lol.
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On September 30 2012 03:11 ButtCraft wrote:DanLee, has a ~600pt master MMR. http://drop.sc/25926516:50 says it all, he looks at a doom drop through the fog of war and reacts to it before he could see it. Funny because I still won, what a horrible player lol.
You're trash, get over it.
edit: watched rep, not sure why i thought there would be drop there. I'm pretty sure the reason my camera was there was to send ling to watch tower or maybe attack third. But there were so many drops I didn't see until the marines landed or I completely undereacted to. You would have to be really stupid to think I was maphacking. And if you still feel like there was foul wizardry at work here I can pack up all the zvt reps I have on hand and I probably play and react to all drops similarly.
tl;dr If I was maphacking I would never lose to drops, good day sir.
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On September 30 2012 03:17 DanLee wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2012 03:11 ButtCraft wrote:DanLee, has a ~600pt master MMR. http://drop.sc/25926516:50 says it all, he looks at a doom drop through the fog of war and reacts to it before he could see it. Funny because I still won, what a horrible player lol. You're trash, get over it.
You have, without a doubt, one of the worst posting histories I've ever seen, judging by the last ~10 or so posts I've read of yours. My god.
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On September 30 2012 03:22 FabledIntegral wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2012 03:17 DanLee wrote:On September 30 2012 03:11 ButtCraft wrote:DanLee, has a ~600pt master MMR. http://drop.sc/25926516:50 says it all, he looks at a doom drop through the fog of war and reacts to it before he could see it. Funny because I still won, what a horrible player lol. You're trash, get over it. You have, without a doubt, one of the worst posting histories I've ever seen, judging by the last ~10 or so posts I've read of yours. My god.
I would make a comment about your posting history but I almost fell asleep reading it.
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On September 30 2012 03:11 ButtCraft wrote:DanLee, has a ~600pt master MMR. http://drop.sc/25926516:50 says it all, he looks at a doom drop through the fog of war and reacts to it before he could see it. Funny because I still won, what a horrible player lol.
I just looked through 3 of my replays vs DanLee and it doesn't seem like he cheated at all. Scouting patterns and reactions were all reasonable. 2 of the games were from July and one was from a few weeks ago, so take it for what it's worth.
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On September 30 2012 03:32 Erik.TheRed wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2012 03:11 ButtCraft wrote:DanLee, has a ~600pt master MMR. http://drop.sc/25926516:50 says it all, he looks at a doom drop through the fog of war and reacts to it before he could see it. Funny because I still won, what a horrible player lol. I just looked through 3 of my replays vs DanLee and it doesn't seem like he cheated at all. Scouting patterns and reactions were all reasonable. 2 of the games were from July and one was from a few weeks ago, so take it for what it's worth.
Your play annoys the hell out of me but I appreciate the response XD
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DanLee confirmed map hacker.
GG.
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On September 30 2012 03:32 Erik.TheRed wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2012 03:11 ButtCraft wrote:DanLee, has a ~600pt master MMR. http://drop.sc/25926516:50 says it all, he looks at a doom drop through the fog of war and reacts to it before he could see it. Funny because I still won, what a horrible player lol. I just looked through 3 of my replays vs DanLee and it doesn't seem like he cheated at all. Scouting patterns and reactions were all reasonable. 2 of the games were from July and one was from a few weeks ago, so take it for what it's worth.
I don't care what his past history is.
I can't find any reasonable explanation for him looking directly at 4 medivac doom drop though the fog of war and reacting to the drop before he could see it other than map hacking. Who takes time to look at an area of the map during a game that they can't see?
It's not like he was telling any units to go there either, he looked at this area of the map seconds after I had loaded up all of my units into the medivac, AND THEN reacted to it by sending units to his main, all before it was possible for him to have seen it.
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On September 30 2012 03:44 ButtCraft wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2012 03:32 Erik.TheRed wrote:On September 30 2012 03:11 ButtCraft wrote:DanLee, has a ~600pt master MMR. http://drop.sc/25926516:50 says it all, he looks at a doom drop through the fog of war and reacts to it before he could see it. Funny because I still won, what a horrible player lol. I just looked through 3 of my replays vs DanLee and it doesn't seem like he cheated at all. Scouting patterns and reactions were all reasonable. 2 of the games were from July and one was from a few weeks ago, so take it for what it's worth. I don't care what his past history is. I can't find any reasonable explanation for him looking directly at 4 medivac doom drop though the fog of war and reacting to the drop before he could see it other than map hacking. Who takes time to look at an area of the map during a game that they can't see? It's not like he was telling any units to go there either, he looked at this area of the map seconds after I had loaded up all of my units into the medivac, AND THEN reacted to it by sending units to his main.
Starsense?
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On September 29 2012 17:50 TeaTeaTea wrote:http://drop.sc/259137Myaku is a mid-masters Terran I've known for a while. We had initially exposed his Jan.2012 dated D3Scene profile where he expressed his hacking interests. After confronting him I was told that he only hacked back in January when he had 'low self esteem' and that he didn't anymore. Now aside from the background info I've obtained a replay of him playing against bakZ, a masters protoss. Aside from suspicious fog vision, his production tab (or dashboard, whatever it is called) stalls at certain times, the way he scans is definitely suspicious. I'm trying to decipher it all, and I need the community's help in doing so. Thank you
MyaKu vs baKZ @ antiga shipyard
@4:32 scouting cross map then bot left when baKZ spawns top right. weird look into base as he sends scv bot left.
@6:30 new look into his base. did not get up ramp or scout nexus at natural.
@10:00 starts a hidden third without knowing about baKZ third. not anything special.
@11:20 drops and snipes the robo support bay, not knowing location, but sees it flying in.
@11:50 runs to third, not knowing it's there, but maybe he could have extrapolated that.
@13:30 stares into fog twice close to where myaku army is.
@22:00 when bakZ is hiding nexus around the map, scans 3 (he misses a scan in the area too) of them and looks into fow at the second last one.
i wouldn't call this completely conclusive. but i might have missed something. the scouting at start and the 22:00 peek at a hidden nexus is kinda revealing though.
going to see if i can find some more replays.
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On September 30 2012 03:11 ButtCraft wrote:DanLee, has a ~600pt master MMR. http://drop.sc/25926516:50 says it all, he looks at a doom drop through the fog of war and reacts to it before he could see it. Funny because I still won, what a horrible player lol.
i didn't find any thing worth noting on first view, but i looked at the incident at 16:50.
i know that i sometimes send out drop defense to the other side when i get dropped at one autimatically from time to time, but he's also looking at the drop after sending the defense through fog of war. could just be thinking of sending unit to xnc as well, but occams razor would maybe favor the hack in this case.
will try to find some more reps and look around.
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Thank you Nunez,
Yah there's something I can't get a full grasp around in that replay but I have a hunch that my suspicions have merit.
I'll try finding some other replays in the meantime.
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So this is what the 1 game per season master scrubs do with their life.
It's as if i've discovered a whole new world.
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On September 30 2012 04:32 RMonkeyF wrote:
So this is what the 1 game per season master scrubs do with their life.
It's as if i've discovered a whole new world.
lol what? Are you referring to the people who are analyzing the replays?
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So was playing on NA with my account Begreedy and i face a protoss who was very weird at the first game ( http://drop.sc/259311 ) both going DT but he added 3 canon without any scouting information.
Then second game vs him, proxy gate him for see how he will react ( http://drop.sc/259310 )and he basically blind countered me with gate 10 / gate 11 without scouting too.
Player : Water
Server : NA
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On September 30 2012 05:05 Chubz wrote:So was playing on NA with my account Begreedy and i face a protoss who was very weird at the first game ( http://drop.sc/259311 ) both going DT but he added 3 canon without any scouting information. Then second game vs him, proxy gate him for see how he will react ( http://drop.sc/259310 )and he basically blind countered me with gate 10 / gate 11 without scouting too. Player : Water Server : NA
Played this guy as well in two games countered 3 rax with cannons at Nat, and in another game pre-positions stalkers for hellion drop
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ButtCraft you need more than one replay of evidence to conclude he was hacking. That's especially the case when there's only one instance of suspicious activity in a relatively long game. Did he just choose to only take advantage of his hack for one drop throughout the game? It seems unlikely. It's an unlikely coincedence to move your camera over your opponent's army, but it does happen. I've been accused before when that is what happened.
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