EPTWhat do you think of my read on Lazer?
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
What do you think of my read on Lazer? | ||
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
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JieXian
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Lazermonkey
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I don't get what you mean with ''can't get C and B work at the same time. Doesn't C refer to the start of the game where you and others used the threat of a bandwagon as an argument against agast YourHarrys early vote? | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
(As far as the whole "huge case" thing in one of my previous posts - that's my mistake. That's also why I make no mention of it in my formal analysis, which Hopeless does not address once in this post) So what that Townie Hopeless died day 1? Townies aren't afraid of death and put themselves in the spotlight precisely because they are willing to get shot. On July 07 2012 00:18 Hopeless1der wrote: Well Hapahauli has me backed into a corner and won't let me up from under his thumb. Fine, spend all your effort reading my meta and explaining how Townie Hopeless is so different than me. You know what else is different about Townie Hopeless from XVIII? HES DEAD. LYNCHED DAY 1. Convenient of Hapa to completely leave that out of that case he built. Being direct and argumentative got me into an OMGUS and ultimately got me killed. I'm not too keen on reliving the experience, but Hapa seems to have me pegged as scum with huge emphasis on the fact that I'm playing differently than that time I got lynched first in the game. Lol seriously? This just gets worse and worse. I've been locked into this bullshit from Hapa and he just wont let it go. If I still look like scum (and I'm sure I do to him), fine, but I need to spend some time actually contributing to town instead of defending myself all game. I have yet to get a chance to breathe since my FoS. You just contributed tons here. Tons. | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349066¤tpage=13#249 | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On July 07 2012 02:19 Lazermonkey wrote: Posting from phone. Jingle, before I started pressuring you didn't have any scum reads or suspiciouns. You only posted town reads all over the place. Yoy said the case against TMG were good but you didn't pressure at all ans didn't call him scum or vote him. I don't get what you mean with ''can't get C and B work at the same time. Doesn't C refer to the start of the game where you and others used the threat of a bandwagon as an argument against agast YourHarrys early vote? You're taking a response that's based in context, that specific post, which is where 100% of your baseless attack comes from. Part of your response is in the context of the time it was posted, another part is based in current context. You're saying I should have scum reads now, which has nothing to do with the post I responded to, when there weren't any clear ones. But for the other part, where it's convenient to stay in context, you do. You're tunneling me, and bouncing around like a cricket on meth. Of course I'm going to try to ignore it, and call it scummy. It doesn't make any sense at all, unless you blatantly misinterpret things and ignore context. | ||
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On July 07 2012 02:29 JieXian wrote: Jingle I think your read on Lazer sucks because I've got a better one. Too bad he's gone and I got to sleep soon. I was waiting for more posts from him. I think you're mixing "case" and "read". Read is just "town vs scum", case is "how it's proven". I've not built some massive thing with piles of evidence, just going off a small subset that screams scum. | ||
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349066¤tpage=12#239 You accused me of bandwagoning but you somehow missed this part a few posts earlier On July 06 2012 14:20 YourHarry wrote: Hopeless1der is flailing. Kill with fire! ##Vote Hopeless1der I don't think I have to describe how funny and cute Harry's mafia play is is hahahaha I noticed the only people you didn’t attack yet are YourHarry and Mackin. And coincidentally you pounced on everyone who posted something about them. Of course you didn't attack Hapa either because he's attacking everyone but YourHarry and Mackin (only had a light suspicion on Mackin which he himself calls a "less of a case", in the spoilers below) + Show Spoiler + On July 05 2012 19:21 Hapahauli wrote: I have less of a case on Mackin, but his first post is very very suspicious. Inaccurate/Bandwagon post on LazerMonkey. + Show Spoiler + On July 05 2012 07:06 Mackin wrote: Hey guys, just putting it out there Lazer is already on my FoS list and we're only just beginning, long contradictory post with almost too much effort put in. Underlined part is simply not true. The post only has one contradiction, and it isn't very long. Criticizing someone for putting "almost too much effort" into posting is a huge red flag. This sounds like someone who saw someone's criticism of a lone contradiction and immediately jumped on the bandwagon without any analysis. Very anti-town mentality. His next few posts are comprised of one-liners and fluff: + Show Spoiler + On July 05 2012 07:17 Mackin wrote: HellJingle, that's an interesting name... On July 05 2012 07:28 Mackin wrote: On July 05 2012 07:22 Hopeless1der wrote: Mackin give the poor guy a chance, he's just a little excited I think. I just wanted to give him a heads up so he checks his posts more carefully, that way we can narrow down our scum lists earlier rather than later. Fair enough point, but I just want to stir up some conversation to get people talking. Ain't that what Mafia's all about?  On July 05 2012 07:56 Mackin wrote: @Harry We have a clever one here methinks. On July 05 2012 21:09 Lazermonkey wrote: Some good analysis there Hapa. Although I can't really contribute anything on Mackin as his filter is just that long. I only find the first post of him to be intresting tho. I don't agree with my post be contradictory which I have already said a dozen of times. Yes, I did use bad wording but that's about it. Also look at the timing. Basically echoing what Hope had already said at that point. The other posts from him is indeed fluff, which is at best bad town play. And of course you didnt waste any time brushing any blame off him. _______________________________ On July 06 2012 20:02 Lazermonkey wrote: Overall, this guy has it all. Lurks, tries to kill discussion about scum hunting, WIFOM accusations against lurkers and bandwagoning(assuming he wasn't joking). The only thing that somewhat points towards him being town is that his teammates probebly would be kinda upset with such a bad play and thus told him to step his posting up... I expect to feel like a genius when I read the mafia QT and I see something like "MACKIN YOU BETTER FUCKIN POST" _______________________________ Lazer you in certain ways remind me too much of myself in NMMXVIII but only with double the agression it's so funny. Luckily your intelligence as mafia does not. - You pounced on everyone who dared laying a finger (of suspicion ^^) your mates. - You came to their defence (with "fire" if I may quote you) as soon as anyone brought them up. - You contradicted yourself by never addressing their posts which fit your criteria for scumminess. The criteria of which is of course, anything at all. - A funnier one, was that somehow I was 2nd on your list after you've been chasing down TMD and hopeless for so long. I was relatively safe, hopeless was about to be lynched and TMD... well he can't possibly a threat to your trio right now. I was thinking damn playing as townie is really hard. After 10 pages, I'm thinking, it can't possibly get any easier than this. ##Vote Lazermonkey | ||
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
Here's the list I was referring to On July 07 2012 01:31 Lazermonkey wrote: Okay, I will go soon and may or may not be at home at the deadline. I will have my phone tho so I am able to check the thread and swap my vote if that is necessary. I will keep my vote on Jingle as of now, although that may change during the rest of the day. I will also change my vote to most scummy person in case there is a close voting. Here is my wish list for people I want dead: 1. Jingle. 2. JieXian 3. Hope/TMG Hapa take a close look at the connection between them. | ||
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On July 06 2012 23:58 Release wrote: caught up; I think Meta is a horrible form of analysis. + Show Spoiler + Defending me based on my previous games is quite shit. Since i should be back 15 minutes before the deadline, i'll leave my vote on Lazer for now. One word: deceitful and Jingle is pulling a half-grush, which i think is never good for town. DAFUQ? Do you honestly believe that Lazer is a better case than Hopeless? On July 07 2012 01:31 Lazermonkey wrote: Okay, I will go soon and may or may not be at home at the deadline. I will have my phone tho so I am able to check the thread and swap my vote if that is necessary. I will keep my vote on Jingle as of now, although that may change during the rest of the day. I will also change my vote to most scummy person in case there is a close voting. Here is my wish list for people I want dead: 1. Jingle. 2. JieXian 3. Hope/TMG DAFUQ? Jingle and JieXian are better cases than Hopeless? Stop pointing fingers, focus on one read, and build a substantial case. | ||
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On July 07 2012 02:31 JingleHell wrote: I think you're mixing "case" and "read". Read is just "town vs scum", case is "how it's proven". I've not built some massive thing with piles of evidence, just going off a small subset that screams scum. btw sorry for forgetting to add smilieys to that post if you know what I mean. I know you do. | ||
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On July 07 2012 02:37 Hapahauli wrote: DAFUQ? Do you honestly believe that Lazer is a better case than Hopeless? DAFUQ? Jingle and JieXian are better cases than Hopeless? Stop pointing fingers, focus on one read, and build a substantial case. hapa now will be a good time to read my post please. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On July 07 2012 02:37 Hapahauli wrote: DAFUQ? Do you honestly believe that Lazer is a better case than Hopeless? DAFUQ? Jingle and JieXian are better cases than Hopeless? Stop pointing fingers, focus on one read, and build a substantial case. Thanks for suggesting tunnel vision in defense of lazer, to help substantiate what Jiexian said. | ||
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YourHarry
United States1152 Posts
##Unvote When's the deadline? I know I've been switching my votes around but for now I think TMG is the best option ##Vote TMG | ||
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JingleHell
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YourHarry
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JieXian
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