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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On July 06 2012 18:14 JieXian wrote: lololololololol you're right. I played NMMXIII with hopeless and this doesn't sound like him at all #Vote Hopeless Voting done in this thread, and to repeat, please bold your votes or they will NOT count. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On July 06 2012 20:43 Lazermonkey wrote: Am I the only one who wonder where JingleHell disappeared? Starting of as THE most active player in the game, he quickly dropped of when he got unvoted by YourHarry. Since then he have only posted 4 times. The second one is this: So instead of actually answering any of the questions from me he starts getting nice etc. My first post was not contradictory, I have already said that a dozen of times, you don't need to tell me that. This just feels like him wanting to avoid any questions. You are just posting town reads all over the place. I made a quick overlook at Newbie XVIII where you were town and it looked like you were posting quite alot of suspicions and not many town reads at all. This game is the complete oppsosite. You havn't taken any clear stance on who you are suspicious of yet. You only mention those who you think is town. This is great scum play, as when they get misslynched/killed, you will look better for claiming they were innocent. I am still VERY suspicious of you Jingle... I'm not playing nice, I'm telling them to make cases on you not be grounded on something that's clearly down to how you read it. I'm not bothering to post here as much because frankly, I'd rather watch people post when it looks like a half schitzo paranoid delusional 3 headed monster shouting at itself. Don't like it, maybe people should stop making 30 second cases and then chasing the next person that posts around. If you're so suspicious of me, do us all a favor, vote for me, and watch me flip green. It'll be tons of information that nobody will use. | ||
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
On July 06 2012 22:33 JingleHell wrote:I'm not playing nice, I'm telling them to make cases on you not be grounded on something that's clearly down to how you read it. There were never any cases on me. Thing is, my post have been discussed alot up to this point. I have CLEARLY stated what I meant and that there weren't any contradictions in the post. You are stating the obvious.On July 06 2012 22:33 JingleHell wrote:I'm not bothering to post here as much because frankly, I'd rather watch people post when it looks like a half schitzo paranoid delusional 3 headed monster shouting at itself. Don't like it, maybe people should stop making 30 second cases and then chasing the next person that posts around. Intresting. Because you were one of the persons posting ALOT in the start of the thread aka when we had a half schitzo paranoid delusional 3 headed monster shouting at itself.. Now when the thread is on halt, you don't post alot at all. So you are in a way not living up to your own statement here.On July 06 2012 22:33 JingleHell wrote:If you're so suspicious of me, do us all a favor, vote for me, and watch me flip green. It'll be tons of information that nobody will use. My vote is on you atm, so don't worry : ). Your defense is not impressive. Basically what you are saying: don't lynch me becuase I'm townie. This is just bad. Why do you ignore the questions i asked you once again? You havn't made any scum reads what so ever. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
I never claimed not to have been part of the shouting earlier, but it's gotten much much worse, since now everyone talking a lot is accusing almost everyone else who isn't. Me personally, I'll be enjoying seeing what comes at the end of the day, as it will provide us with plenty of information. For the time being, though, ##Vote Lazermonkey It's got to be somewhere, and your self-love and expectation that everyone else will dance to your tune strikes me as scummy. | ||
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The_Zen_Man
Sweden202 Posts
On July 06 2012 14:50 Hapahauli wrote: As this is the first major accusation of the game, I want everyone to give an opinion on my argument. My post is not an excuse to top talking and blindly vote. Keep talking, keep giving opinions, and keep pressuring those scum. Holy geezus that took me hours to write. Bedtime for me. I have read the Hapahauli and Hopless discussion. What particularly caught my eye was Hapas post on Hopeless previous behaviour in a game where he was town, and what a sharp contrast it was too his play in this game. Hopeless is Mafia. ##Vote Hopeless1der Btw, i am going to be away for about 2 hours. | ||
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The_Zen_Man
Sweden202 Posts
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
On July 06 2012 23:39 JingleHell wrote:You have yet to ask me anything worth my time or effort in answering, but feel free to get me mislynched. Your such a convincing town player!On July 06 2012 23:39 JingleHell wrote:I never claimed not to have been part of the shouting earlier, but it's gotten much much worse, since now everyone talking a lot is accusing almost everyone else who isn't. So you don't think lurking is bad? What do you mean with this? Yes, some have been calling out lurkers for their play. Lurking is not good for town so I don't feel any bad with it as long as you aren't ONLY focusing on lurkers. Btw, care to give examples of everyone talking a lot is accusing almost everyone else who isn't.?On July 06 2012 23:39 JingleHell wrote:Me personally, I'll be enjoying seeing what comes at the end of the day, as it will provide us with plenty of information. I thought we were supposed to lynch scum? On July 06 2012 23:39 JingleHell wrote:For the time being, though, ##Vote Lazermonkey Random OMGUS + Vote! Nice! The only person I know is 100% town is myself, thus i want my ideas to be promoted as they will most likely help town.It's got to be somewhere, and your self-love and expectation that everyone else will dance to your tune strikes me as scummy | ||
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Release
United States4397 Posts
Defending me based on my previous games is quite shit. Since i should be back 15 minutes before the deadline, i'll leave my vote on Lazer for now. One word: deceitful and Jingle is pulling a half-grush, which i think is never good for town. | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
HES DEAD. LYNCHED DAY 1. Convenient of Hapa to completely leave that out of that case he built. Being direct and argumentative got me into an OMGUS and ultimately got me killed. I'm not too keen on reliving the experience, but Hapa seems to have me pegged as scum with huge emphasis on the fact that I'm playing differently than that time I got lynched first in the game. As for some of the other points of your case Hapa , you've deliberately excluded or maybe have just forgotten things that you claimed against me On July 06 2012 11:49 Hapahauli wrote: You did not claim it was a huge case. I got angry because you had a misleading case and I've made that clear multiple times. Seriously how does this even fly? Do you not remember your initial response to me? + Show Spoiler + On July 06 2012 11:49 Hapahauli wrote: @Hopless1der A lot your points are just flat-out wrong. You first quote a short paragraph I have on the subject of Release (regarding past game history/interaction with LazerMonkey) and state that this is a "backslide from my previous case on Release." What? I had no previous case on Release - I simply asked him to clarify his stance on Lazer, and there was nothing remotely accusatory in my post. The only two players I have FOS'd are JingleHell (retracted) and currently TMG26. I have no idea why you're calling my two paragraph analysis of Release's opinion on Lazer a "huge case." It's not even a case! You then mention that I retract from my "case" when other people suspect him. This is flat out wrong again. Before anyone suspected release, I immediately made a move to put suspicion on Mackin and TMG26. No one FOS'd Release in the time between my "case" against him and my actual case on TMG and Mackin. Hell, the only post about Release in that timespan was LazerMonkey defending himself from Release's attacks. In regards to my whole anti-bandwagoning thing against Jingle, I clarified my stance in this post (click). You're using a summary sentence to represent my complete view instead of taking the time to read my arguments. I don't see anything unreasonable about my stance, do you? Your accusation mis-represents my posts without any analysis, and you are spreading easily verifiable falsehood regarding me "switching stances" on Release. This is horrendous analysis and is deliberate misrepresentation of my posts. This is very anti-town play. FOS Hopeless1der You said it, in quotes, just like I'd typed it in my post FoS'ing you. For the recond, I said it, and I probably shouldn't have:+ Show Spoiler + On July 06 2012 03:59 Hopeless1der wrote: and just jumps all over it, building a huge case: On July 06 2012 11:49 Hapahauli wrote: What does that second sentence even mean? That's the scummiest thing I've read so far! You posted a weak/half-assed read as your original case then you're saying you don't want it to get brushed off as a weak/half-assed read and therefore you posted it? WHAAAAT. The ravings of a madman. Don't put words in my mouth. I don't think my case was half-assed at all. I saw something suspicious and wanted it seen. I've since then learned what a huge case truly is. On July 06 2012 11:49 Hapahauli wrote: When did I even suggest that I had 3 scum locked down? Where did that even come from? That's some suspicious shit right there. I made one read and you freak right out about it, insisting that I'm making up false claims and nothing I say is true or credible in the slightest. On July 06 2012 06:19 Hapahauli wrote: EBWOP: @Hopeless1der: And just so you don't mistake my post as "underlying suspicion," I would like to make it perfectly clear what I think about your last two posts. You brought attention to a player who had not yet been attacked using false and out of context evidence. You immediately flip-flopped and avoided confrontation when presented with this. You are not pro-town, your goal has been to discredit my analysis so far and incite paranoia amongst the town. You are mafia. ## Vote: Hopeless1der So because no one else has attacked you, it automatically makes you town? Immune to criticism or analysis? Why are you so awesome that my only goal could possibly be to discredit you and incite paranoia? You're posting like your opinion is the only one that matters here, you don't need help finding scum from anyone, especially if someone were to target you. Woe betide the next person who thinks Hapa has done something that could be considered scummy. I've been locked into this bullshit from Hapa and he just wont let it go. If I still look like scum (and I'm sure I do to him), fine, but I need to spend some time actually contributing to town instead of defending myself all game. I have yet to get a chance to breathe since my FoS. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
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BassInSpace
Australia165 Posts
Also FYI Lazer, Jingle was mafia in NMM XVIII, not town. | ||
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
On July 06 2012 23:58 Release wrote: Wow, nice response there dude. You really broke down every piece my defence(read: sarcasm...).caught up; I think Meta is a horrible form of analysis. + Show Spoiler + Defending me based on my previous games is quite shit. Since i should be back 15 minutes before the deadline, i'll leave my vote on Lazer for now. One word: deceitful and Jingle is pulling a half-grush, which i think is never good for town. Care to comment on me post at all? | ||
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BassInSpace
Australia165 Posts
I assume you are actually talking about Hopeless, since he looks to be the most likely lynch at this point. If you think this is a mislynch, can you please explain why? If you are town you should be trying your hardest to prevent a mislynch, rather than chastising everyone else for pursuing their current cases. | ||
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
On July 07 2012 00:27 BassInSpace wrote: Owlol, missed that part -.-. Well, I guess at least meta is pointing in the right direction then. Jingle, are you saying you don't think Hopeless is scum? If you think this is a mislynch, mind telling us why exactly you think Hopeless is town? Also FYI Lazer, Jingle was mafia in NMM XVIII, not town. | ||
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
On July 07 2012 00:27 BassInSpace wrote: Jingle, are you saying you don't think Hopeless is scum? If you think this is a mislynch, mind telling us why exactly you think Hopeless is town? Also FYI Lazer, Jingle was mafia in NMM XVIII, not town. I already did. It's inconclusive, but it's already on the record. The big issue is that it's based in meta from a game where he hasn't flipped yet. And, of course, most of the people here are so busy being too smart for their own good that they can't realize that I'm actually not being scummy. I also expect a D1 lynch to almost always be a mislynch, because the odds of latching onto the right person with minimal information are kind of bad. And, of course, if anyone feels the need to put together a case against me that isn't smoke and mirrors, I'll happily respond, but frankly, under the current circumstances, I'd rather provide information via getting mislynched than beat my head against the brick wall of the people going berserk on attacking everyone. Actually, if we want to find out who's being scummy, since this is a newbie game, is look for the people who are trying too hard to be the polar opposite of scummy based on the various guides. So look for prolific posters who find a way to turn every single word into a scumslip, are obsessed with analysis, and want to take the lead. You should find at least two scum that way. | ||
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BassInSpace
Australia165 Posts
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JingleHell
United States11308 Posts
I fully expect the majority of scum in newbie games to overdo un-scumminess. And with so many people in rabid "Has to be my read that seals the deal" mode, the scum are able to hide in plain sight doing exactly that. | ||
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
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BassInSpace
Australia165 Posts
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
lazer will get to you soon | ||
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