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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
June 10 2011 23:08 GMT
#2961
On June 11 2011 07:59 Karshe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 07:55 Jackal58 wrote:
Makes me uneasy of Rean. We either have a framer role or he's scum.

I couldn't remember why Rean's name was in confirmed green, but didn't want to question it and make it look like I was trying to discredit a DT...

Rean did call out TdL when he would have had no compelling reason at the time. So I'm leaning towards him being town. Sorry for the "Fuck you" Rean. First thing I thought was that you were scum. But that doesn't fit.
Life can only kill you once.
Rean
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands808 Posts
June 10 2011 23:08 GMT
#2962
Hmmm. I think we should actually lynch Jackal instead, since he's confirmed to have a KP role, whereas Barundar is probably not the last mafia left. It'd reduce the kp by one atleast, always a good thing.
Rean
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands808 Posts
June 10 2011 23:09 GMT
#2963
On June 11 2011 08:08 Rean wrote:
Hmmm. I think we should actually lynch Jackal instead, since he's confirmed to have a KP role, whereas Barundar is probably not the last mafia left. It'd reduce the kp by one atleast, always a good thing.


Oh and also, we can't vig Jackal since he's got his vest but vigging Barundar should be fairly easy.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
June 10 2011 23:11 GMT
#2964
On June 11 2011 08:08 Rean wrote:
Hmmm. I think we should actually lynch Jackal instead, since he's confirmed to have a KP role, whereas Barundar is probably not the last mafia left. It'd reduce the kp by one atleast, always a good thing.

If I had KP I would have shot somebody by now. I got smileys.I gotta believe you're town. I was framed.
Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
June 10 2011 23:12 GMT
#2965
On June 11 2011 08:09 Rean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 08:08 Rean wrote:
Hmmm. I think we should actually lynch Jackal instead, since he's confirmed to have a KP role, whereas Barundar is probably not the last mafia left. It'd reduce the kp by one atleast, always a good thing.


Oh and also, we can't vig Jackal since he's got his vest but vigging Barundar should be fairly easy.

Right. 2 SKs in a game is nuts.
Life can only kill you once.
Rean
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands808 Posts
June 10 2011 23:19 GMT
#2966
On June 11 2011 08:12 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 08:09 Rean wrote:
On June 11 2011 08:08 Rean wrote:
Hmmm. I think we should actually lynch Jackal instead, since he's confirmed to have a KP role, whereas Barundar is probably not the last mafia left. It'd reduce the kp by one atleast, always a good thing.


Oh and also, we can't vig Jackal since he's got his vest but vigging Barundar should be fairly easy.

Right. 2 SKs in a game is nuts.


So you're saying someone created a role that specifically frames someone to become black (a cmpletely retarded idea for a role because it would only be useful for mafia and very detrimental for town) and also knew to frame you rather than the guy I said I was going to inspect?


Cool story, bro.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
June 10 2011 23:50 GMT
#2967
On June 11 2011 08:19 Rean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 08:12 Jackal58 wrote:
On June 11 2011 08:09 Rean wrote:
On June 11 2011 08:08 Rean wrote:
Hmmm. I think we should actually lynch Jackal instead, since he's confirmed to have a KP role, whereas Barundar is probably not the last mafia left. It'd reduce the kp by one atleast, always a good thing.


Oh and also, we can't vig Jackal since he's got his vest but vigging Barundar should be fairly easy.

Right. 2 SKs in a game is nuts.


So you're saying someone created a role that specifically frames someone to become black (a cmpletely retarded idea for a role because it would only be useful for mafia and very detrimental for town) and also knew to frame you rather than the guy I said I was going to inspect?


Cool story, bro.

Chaos 13's role:
You are the Whistleblower. Once per night, you can track a player by stalking them, recording their actions and taking note of their visitors. If you do not reveal any of this information openly, when you die all the information is leaked in the Night/Day post you were killed in. Your alignment shows up as Black regardless of what alignment you are.
He was town. You'd have to ask the moron that wrote it. Mataza was town. His role was useless. I'm town. I get to talk to people that don't reply to my PMs and post fucking smileys. Amber gets to bark like a dog. How the hell would I know why somebody framed me. Maybe I quoted somebody. Or maybe I said the magic fucking word. Or maybe they didn't believe your WIFOM. Or maybe you are scum.
Life can only kill you once.
Eternalmisfit
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States643 Posts
June 10 2011 23:52 GMT
#2968
Good luck town!! Sorry for the bad tunnel on Palmar but hopefully I redeemed myself a bit by saving Rean.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
June 10 2011 23:53 GMT
#2969
jackal can wait another day I think?

Barundar can be vigged

I think we should lynch kurumi?
Computer says mafia
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
June 10 2011 23:54 GMT
#2970
On June 11 2011 08:53 Palmar wrote:
jackal can wait another day I think?

Barundar can be vigged

I think we should lynch kurumi?

Karumi is dead.
Life can only kill you once.
Rean
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands808 Posts
June 10 2011 23:56 GMT
#2971
On June 11 2011 08:50 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 08:19 Rean wrote:
On June 11 2011 08:12 Jackal58 wrote:
On June 11 2011 08:09 Rean wrote:
On June 11 2011 08:08 Rean wrote:
Hmmm. I think we should actually lynch Jackal instead, since he's confirmed to have a KP role, whereas Barundar is probably not the last mafia left. It'd reduce the kp by one atleast, always a good thing.


Oh and also, we can't vig Jackal since he's got his vest but vigging Barundar should be fairly easy.

Right. 2 SKs in a game is nuts.


So you're saying someone created a role that specifically frames someone to become black (a cmpletely retarded idea for a role because it would only be useful for mafia and very detrimental for town) and also knew to frame you rather than the guy I said I was going to inspect?


Cool story, bro.

Chaos 13's role:
You are the Whistleblower. Once per night, you can track a player by stalking them, recording their actions and taking note of their visitors. If you do not reveal any of this information openly, when you die all the information is leaked in the Night/Day post you were killed in. Your alignment shows up as Black regardless of what alignment you are.
He was town. You'd have to ask the moron that wrote it. Mataza was town. His role was useless. I'm town. I get to talk to people that don't reply to my PMs and post fucking smileys. Amber gets to bark like a dog. How the hell would I know why somebody framed me. Maybe I quoted somebody. Or maybe I said the magic fucking word. Or maybe they didn't believe your WIFOM. Or maybe you are scum.


That wasn't a framing role, it was part of his role meant to balance it out. If you had that, you'd know about it.
Karshe
Profile Joined November 2010
United States212 Posts
June 10 2011 23:56 GMT
#2972
Yeah, Kurumi got sacced by GMarshal.

So we either need to lynch Barundar, or figure out who his accomplice is.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
June 11 2011 00:14 GMT
#2973
[QUOTE]On June 11 2011 08:56 Rean wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 11 2011 08:50 Jackal58 wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 11 2011 08:19 Rean wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 11 2011 08:12 Jackal58 wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 11 2011 08:09 Rean wrote:
[QUOTE]On June 11 2011 08:08 Rean wrote:
Hmmm. I think we should actually lynch Jackal instead, since he's confirmed to have a KP role, whereas Barundar is probably not the last mafia left. It'd reduce the kp by one atleast, always a good thing.[/QUOTE]

Oh and also, we can't vig Jackal since he's got his vest but vigging Barundar should be fairly easy.[/QUOTE]
Right. 2 SKs in a game is nuts.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE]On June 11 2011 08:08 Rean wrote:So you're saying someone created a role that specifically frames someone to become black (a cmpletely retarded idea for a role because it would only be useful for mafia and very detrimental for town) and also knew to frame you rather than the guy I said I was going to inspect?


Cool story, bro.[/QUOTE]
Chaos 13's role:
You are the Whistleblower. Once per night, you can track a player by stalking them, recording their actions and taking note of their visitors. If you do not reveal any of this information openly, when you die all the information is leaked in the Night/Day post you were killed in. Your alignment shows up as Black regardless of what alignment you are.
He was town. You'd have to ask the moron that wrote it. Mataza was town. His role was useless. I'm town. I get to talk to people that don't reply to my PMs and post fucking smileys. Amber gets to bark like a dog. How the hell would I know why somebody framed me. Maybe I quoted somebody. Or maybe I said the magic fucking word. Or maybe they didn't believe your WIFOM. Or maybe you are scum. [/QUOTE]

That wasn't a framing role, it was part of his role meant to balance it out. If you had that, you'd know about it.[/QUOTE]

That was in response to this:
[QUOTE]On June 11 2011 08:08 Rean wrote:So you're saying someone created a role that specifically frames someone to become black (a cmpletely retarded idea for a role because it would only be useful for mafia and very detrimental for town) and also knew to frame you rather than the guy I said I was going to inspect?[/quote]

I know it's not part of my role. I also know it's not my alignment. Now if you are going to start playing intentionally stupid I might have to begin reassessing my belief you're town and return to my original impression.

Life can only kill you once.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
June 11 2011 00:21 GMT
#2974
Fucking quote fail.

On June 11 2011 08:56 Rean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 08:50 Jackal58 wrote:
On June 11 2011 08:19 Rean wrote:
On June 11 2011 08:12 Jackal58 wrote:
On June 11 2011 08:09 Rean wrote:
On June 11 2011 08:08 Rean wrote:
Hmmm. I think we should actually lynch Jackal instead, since he's confirmed to have a KP role, whereas Barundar is probably not the last mafia left. It'd reduce the kp by one atleast, always a good thing.


Oh and also, we can't vig Jackal since he's got his vest but vigging Barundar should be fairly easy.

Right. 2 SKs in a game is nuts.


So you're saying someone created a role that specifically frames someone to become black (a cmpletely retarded idea for a role because it would only be useful for mafia and very detrimental for town) and also knew to frame you rather than the guy I said I was going to inspect?


Cool story, bro.

Chaos 13's role:
You are the Whistleblower. Once per night, you can track a player by stalking them, recording their actions and taking note of their visitors. If you do not reveal any of this information openly, when you die all the information is leaked in the Night/Day post you were killed in. Your alignment shows up as Black regardless of what alignment you are.
He was town. You'd have to ask the moron that wrote it. Mataza was town. His role was useless. I'm town. I get to talk to people that don't reply to my PMs and post fucking smileys. Amber gets to bark like a dog. How the hell would I know why somebody framed me. Maybe I quoted somebody. Or maybe I said the magic fucking word. Or maybe they didn't believe your WIFOM. Or maybe you are scum.


That wasn't a framing role, it was part of his role meant to balance it out. If you had that, you'd know about it.



That was in response to this:
On June 11 2011 08:56 Rean wrote:So you're saying someone created a role that specifically frames someone to become black (a cmpletely retarded idea for a role because it would only be useful for mafia and very detrimental for town) and also knew to frame you rather than the guy I said I was going to inspect?


I know it's not part of my role. I also know it's not my alignment. Now if you are going to start playing intentionally stupid I might have to begin reassessing my belief you're town and return to my original impression.

That's what it was supposed to look like.
Life can only kill you once.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 11 2011 00:50 GMT
#2975
We should lynch Jackal, find if he is SK or if there is a framer in play. If there is a framer, then all our awesome list checks were just rendered worthless. I mean as a SK we cannot vigi him, so we lynch him, have palmar vigi Barundar and then narrow down the list that is left.

Sound like a plan?
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Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
June 11 2011 02:22 GMT
#2976
No it doesn't.
Life can only kill you once.
Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
June 11 2011 03:40 GMT
#2977
On June 11 2011 09:50 GMarshal wrote:
We should lynch Jackal, find if he is SK or if there is a framer in play. If there is a framer, then all our awesome list checks were just rendered worthless. I mean as a SK we cannot vigi him, so we lynch him, have palmar vigi Barundar and then narrow down the list that is left.

Sound like a plan?


*wiggles his tail*
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
June 11 2011 03:41 GMT
#2978
On June 11 2011 12:40 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 09:50 GMarshal wrote:
We should lynch Jackal, find if he is SK or if there is a framer in play. If there is a framer, then all our awesome list checks were just rendered worthless. I mean as a SK we cannot vigi him, so we lynch him, have palmar vigi Barundar and then narrow down the list that is left.

Sound like a plan?


*wiggles his tail*

In that case I'm voting jackal. ^_^

##Vote: Jackal58
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
June 11 2011 05:11 GMT
#2979
Wait this game is still going on?
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PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
June 11 2011 06:34 GMT
#2980
Palmar lynch

bumatlarge
Eternalmisfit
Kurumi
Jackal58

Karshe
GMarshal
Amber[LighT]
Cthsazsa
Rean

Four suspects, one of them are scum.
I didn't highlet my cause well shit thast your own opinion. I will say this however, if I was scum why the hell would I let Mr. fcking Wiggles kill Desk?

Amber, he's a freakin dog for god's sake. It's impossible to get a read on him when all we can analyze is barks and tail-waggings.
Rean I don't know why the hell you didn't check Amber instead of Jackal. EM claimed medic, of course he was going to die. 99% chance you're going to die tonight as well, so any shit you come up with is useless.
I also don't trust the dog and I really don't see any other way Town is going to be sure of his alignment.


Jackal, you've pretty much been confirmed SK. Don't try pulling the same bullshit argument WIggles used and claim you were obviously framed.


GMarshal, I'm pretty confident this bro is town. He was roleblocked by TDL, and if the GMan was scum he wouldn't have quoted TDL on Day 1.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=227186&currentpage=24#464


Karshe, I honestly don't know wtf to say about this dude. I haven't felt scummy vibes but after going through each of his posts I found some interesting shiz/


+ Show Spoiler +
On June 07 2011 03:01 Karshe wrote:
While I'm still voting for him at the moment, I don't think we should vote Torte as scum just because he has a scummy role. I'm not sure our host would be so obvious to give all scum the perfect scum roles... seems like it would be too easy to figure out who is who.


Nothing amazing, trying to softdefend TDL.



+ Show Spoiler +
On June 07 2011 06:43 Karshe wrote:
Actually, I'll be more specific about my role since I feel like the mafia have higher priority targets tonight.

I do have KP and I am the reason that Mataza has a bomb strapped to him. I am able to plant a bomb at night and they take 48 hours (after the next lynch) to detonate. I don't feel at risk claiming since there are others who have stronger KP than I do.

On Night 1 I attemped to plant a bomb on Varpulis, but when I arrived he was already dead (per our host) and I got my bomb refunded back to me. I don't know if this counts as "visiting" him, but I asked Dec if I lost my bomb and he said no, I kept it since my target had already been killed. I started with 2 bombs and only have 1 left now (after Mataza).

"Why Mataza?" I felt like Bum is an easy lynch, and I felt confident that Torte is scum and will be dying soon. I wanted to target another person I felt to be scum.

I chose someone's role who is still alive and hasn't claimed yet. Been waiting for them to claim to see if they're truthful.


LOL. Funny thing is, bum's lynch was hard as hell. Of course you feel TDL is scum, a bandwagon is starting to build on him.
As for Mataza. Wtf? Besides these down-the-gutter excuses to kill, you have no real reason to plant a fucking bomb on him.



+ Show Spoiler +
On June 09 2011 06:47 Karshe wrote:
I would also recommend Hiro at this point since he is on both lists. It would seem to make sense... Hiro is the single mafia on Day 1 list, and Hiro and Bum are the two mafia on Day 2 list. TDL would be the missing mafia.


Pushing for Hiro's lynch, during the time when a bandwagon of sorts is starting to mount up on him.
Also, WRONG. After Hiro's flip, it's damn obvious Barundar is the scum. It rules hiro out on Day 2, and you seem like a pretty good candidate to fill in that missing scum.

On June 09 2011 07:03 Karshe wrote:
Red, I don't understand your reasoning. Why are you completing skipping over Hiro?

Here is what I posted in regards to the lists:

Show nested quote +
On June 09 2011 06:47 Karshe wrote:
I would also recommend Hiro at this point since he is on both lists. It would seem to make sense... Hiro is the single mafia on Day 1 list, and Hiro and Bum are the two mafia on Day 2 list. TDL would be the missing mafia.



Further pushing Hiro's lynch after redFF ignores his excuses.



+ Show Spoiler +
On June 09 2011 07:09 Karshe wrote:
To clarify, my scum list is:

Bumatlarge
Hiro protagonist
Mr.Wiggles
Torte de Lini
Varpulis the mole


LOL. The only thing this bro does is name the ALREADY CONFIRMED SCUM, and throws in Hiro to assure that he gets lynched.



+ Show Spoiler +
On June 09 2011 07:20 Karshe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2011 07:16 redFF wrote:
Why inspect Hiro?

If he comes back Scum
Barundar is town
Everyone else on Palmar's vote list is confirmed not scum (Kurumi still black obviously)

If he come back Town
Barundar is Mafia
1 of Gm, Jackal, Cthasza, Karshe is Scum (likely Gm or Jackal)


This seems really spot on.

I believe Cthsazsa to be town as well. Based off his posting, and I gave him his role. The fact that he hasn't claimed any part of it yet makes me feel he is pro-town.

I want to trust GM, but after the whole Palmar thing which he himself admitted he pretty much spear-headed... I'm not as sure.


Again, he's trying to get town primed up for another mislynch on an obvious Green, all the while giving no real contribution to discussion.

On June 11 2011 07:53 Karshe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 07:33 Rean wrote:
Palmar lynch

bumatlarge
Eternalmisfit
Kurumi
Jackal58
Karshe
GMarshal
Amber[LighT]
Cthsazsa
Rean


Yes, I inspected Jackal, I just said i'd inspect Amber to avoid possible framer shenanigans. He returned black on the inspect. Barundar is also the only one on the visceraeyes lynch left unaccounted for, making him mafia.

##Vote: Barundar


This makes me even more uneasy of GMarshal, since Cthsazsa, Amber, and myself have all been considered pro-town for most of the game.


Hmm, nice job giving yourself town credit. Completely ignore the fact that you killed a townie without good reasoning. What have you done that's considered protown besides being pressured to kill bum by Town?
Also, he is experiencing an uneasy feeling from GMarshal, but fails to explain why.



+ Show Spoiler +
On June 11 2011 00:17 Karshe wrote:
Great work everyone, I'm glad the bomb worked.

I think we need to check, or preferably kill, hiro protagonist. He is on both voting lists from Day 1/2... and regardless, his posting the last day or so has been pretty scummy.

Why is bum's role redacted in the night post? I was curious to see if he was as overpowered as batman.


Yes, yes, take the credit for killing bum after the town pressured you to do so.
Of course, you would preferably kill Hiro. This dude's an easy target and doesn't even defend himself.
Oh you find his last few posts scummy? Thanks for the great analysis there, sherlock.



+ Show Spoiler +
On June 11 2011 07:59 Karshe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 07:55 Jackal58 wrote:
Makes me uneasy of Rean. We either have a framer role or he's scum.

I couldn't remember why Rean's name was in confirmed green, but didn't want to question it and make it look like I was trying to discredit a DT...


LOL. As soon as Jackal discredits Rean (Because Rean confirmed Jackal as SK) Karshe "forgets".
You didn't want to look like you were trying to discredit a DT? If you were Pro-Town why would you be worried about shit like that?

O YA, Rean is our only fucking DT left.
Remember now?



On June 11 2011 08:56 Karshe wrote:
Yeah, Kurumi got sacced by GMarshal.

So we either need to lynch Barundar, or figure out who his accomplice is.


I have a rather good feeling that you, sir, are it.


Lynch Barundar today. Shoot Karshe. Lynch Jackal tomorrow.


I'm done.
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