EPT1. this isnt insane mafia where there might actually be a day vig
2. you didnt subsequently cheat by messaging me in a no PM game talking about the game as if i were actually dead
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annul
United States2841 Posts
1. this isnt insane mafia where there might actually be a day vig 2. you didnt subsequently cheat by messaging me in a no PM game talking about the game as if i were actually dead | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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annul
United States2841 Posts
how consistent have i been with my pushes and my logic for day 1 plan, night 1 plan, and day 2 plan? how many players have supported me in the face of a constant stream of "hey lets attack annul and see if it sticks?" thats right, none. maybe one or two one-liners saying i am not scum, etc. how many players have tried to fling shit at me and discredit me? i dunno... i didn't count it to be honest but maybe... something approximating... sixteen? + Show Spoiler + that's how many mafia are alive right now. DUN DUN DUNNNN it is my hope that the remaining people understand that this entire game ive been pushing for a pro-town agenda. night 1 i was screaming at palmar that if he didnt activate double lynch, i'd spend all of day 2 pushing his lynch. imagine that, he activated it. whether this meant hes town and saw the light (maybe) or is mafia and is trying to deflect (maybe) is irrelevant; as long as he is doing pro-town shit like popping double lynches early, he should live. on the off chance he IS town (again, i am not saying he is), then giving the DLs to another unknown/leans red is really unsmart. give palmar the chance to redeem himself -- pro-town shit like using DLs is a great way to do this. everyone saying "clues are unreliable" etc should go read haunted mafia, hosted by doctorhelvetica, october 2010. that said, i really do not care how we get to our two reds for the day, but i strongly believe we have zeks completely dead by way of clue (unlucky enough for him) and of the choice between pure analysis and clue hunting for #2 we should probably take the clue. or we should start lynching people who vote without posting explanations on a policy level ;\ | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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Palmar
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
Can anybody put up a compelling argument as for why we shouldn't just shoot him? The guy made the most obvious scum slip I have seen ever since Palmar posted his role PM in XLV. I want a lynch we can argue about, let the vigs take care of the obvious targets. Vigs aren't going to shoot people who are somewhat scummy, they are going to shoot people who are 100% scum. Lets argue about the rest. On annul I am going to vote for annul. The guy is supposed to be pretty good, so why does he refuse to back up his clue cases with analysis? I wrote in my very first post that I wanted people to use clues as guidelines, not just lynch blindly into them. His stupid "Lynch zeks, the clues proved him to be scum. If he is not scum, then lynch me." is beyond stupid and so scummy. You might think that if he was scum he would never say such a thing but that is wrong, he knows that nobody is ever going to lynch him just because zeks would flip town, because he is still objectively a null tell. He isn't stating his opinion, he is just mindlessly bashing somebody for a clue so he remains a null tell ... or actually he remains scummy because he is trying to get a guy lynched on a flaky foundation without taking any responsibility himself. The guy should know better and that is why I am voting to lynch him. Did you read through all 80 profiles, are you sure this clue couldn't match somebody else? Are you sure this even is a clue, I'm sure that the OPs didn't go through all profiles to make sure that something they wrote couldn't be interpreted as a clue pointing towards a townie. Do you honestly think this? On Voting for Palmar If you are voting for Palmar right now, then you need to come up with a case describing how exactly you can be sure that BloodyC0bbler isn't scum. If we lynch Palmar and BloodyC0bbler is scum, then we're screwed. Why are you lynching Palmar, one of the active players whose lynch will give BloodyC0bbler insane power? Where is the case describing how Palmar is 100% scum and how BloodyC0bbler is 100% town? Stop voting Palmar ##Vote annul I am going to save my second vote for somebody else, I don't know who yet. | ||
tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On November 29 2011 19:10 tree.hugger wrote: Voted for Risen based on his silly jumping of the gun on the Day post, obv mafia is obv. wherebugsgo for that gem a few pages back. Mafia is bad this time around no? If only the veterans are here would stop tunneling on each other or getting modkilled, I think we'd have this. If you think the mafia are playing badly then you probably haven't read much of the thread. The simple fact that I am actually seriously suspected is an indication that scum are muddying up the thread really well. I guess the "gem" you are referencing is the load of crap sinani tried to paint as a scumslip. If sinani weren't consistently terrible as either alignment I'd probably think he's scum, but instead I have to make an attempt at damage control because the majority of players in this game don't actually know how bad that is and are likely to believe him. We are no further than we were yesterday to finding scum. This is beginning to bother me. I will be posting a case on deconduo and probably a few other players as this day goes on. I have to sleep though, so I won't be back till (real life) morning, which is about 8 hours from now. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
I know Ace supports the notion that players get lynched all the time for all sorts of reasons, so if I end up getting lynched he should be able to take responsibility for the fact that he would be the major cause of it. Of course, I don't think he gives a flying shit since he's already been modkilled and can have no further direct influence on the game. If you all want to repeat his mistake and think I am scum, please make sure to actually think through your decision of voting me before you do it. Otherwise, you are just another sheep following the masses. | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
On November 29 2011 19:06 prplhz wrote: On Voting for Palmar If you are voting for Palmar right now, then you need to come up with a case describing how exactly you can be sure that BloodyC0bbler isn't scum. If we lynch Palmar and BloodyC0bbler is scum, then we're screwed. Why are you lynching Palmar, one of the active players whose lynch will give BloodyC0bbler insane power? Where is the case describing how Palmar is 100% scum and how BloodyC0bbler is 100% town. yo that makes sense. who do you find scummier? | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
On November 29 2011 19:06 prplhz wrote: Did you read through all 80 profiles, are you sure this clue couldn't match somebody else? in fact, YES. i did. and this clue can literally apply to NO ONE ELSE IN THE GAME. this is why i am so sure. | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
so you steal the PRECISE argument i have been making for the entirety of day 2 and yet i am the one not backing up my pushes with analysis? come the fuck on | ||
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annul
United States2841 Posts
clues exist 100% to help town find mafia. that's why they're there. anyone saying "LOL DON'T USE CLUES JUST ANALYSIS" is akin to someone saying "LOL DON'T USE DT CHECKS JUST ANALYSIS" -- they are tools we have at our disposal to use. and when they are blatantly fucking obvious, ride on it. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On November 28 2011 12:09 Risen wrote: Made it through my first day wooooooo  This is the entire fucking case on Risen. Everything else in his filter is completely town-like, but you choose to vote for his lynched based on this?! This looks like a scumslip. It very well could be a scumslip, but if we learned anything from day 1, it's that you don't lynch someone based on a single thing they said. I know someone is probably going to come in and point out how I supported the YM lynch day 1. The difference between YM and Risen is that YM lied and he was a massive distraction to finding real scum. Risen has done nothing so far that has been anti-town, he seems to have town interests at heart, and he has been responding to questions genuinely and transparently. When I asked him those two questions on day 1 about sandro I got a very town-like response from him. I don't get that feeling about most players. I have said nothing so far about this lynch because I'm curious as to who is pushing it and why. Most of the players who began this crusade, IMO, are scum. You all need to unvote Risen and vote someone who is more likely to scum. (and yes, I do realize that a lot of you idiots will now use this as an excuse to vote me instead) | ||
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tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
On November 29 2011 19:19 wherebugsgo wrote: If you think the mafia are playing badly then you probably haven't read much of the thread. The simple fact that I am actually seriously suspected is an indication that scum are muddying up the thread really well. I guess the "gem" you are referencing is the load of crap sinani tried to paint as a scumslip. If sinani weren't consistently terrible as either alignment I'd probably think he's scum, but instead I have to make an attempt at damage control because the majority of players in this game don't actually know how bad that is and are likely to believe him. We are no further than we were yesterday to finding scum. This is beginning to bother me. I will be posting a case on deconduo and probably a few other players as this day goes on. I have to sleep though, so I won't be back till (real life) morning, which is about 8 hours from now. Seeing as how Ace flipped blue, it seems like most of the damage here has been self-inflicted. But I think if people like Risen and yourself keep screwing up, than we're on pretty firm ground. It's pretty easy to sound like town when you're actually town. But when you sound like mafia, it's frequently because you're... uh.... mafia. I'd like to see the vote count too. I think we have a majority on Risen being red, but I have no idea who is in second right now. That's important, because close, contested votes are always great ways to catch mafia. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On November 29 2011 19:36 tree.hugger wrote: Seeing as how Ace flipped blue, it seems like most of the damage here has been self-inflicted. But I think if people like Risen and yourself keep screwing up, than we're on pretty firm ground. It's pretty easy to sound like town when you're actually town. But when you sound like mafia, it's frequently because you're... uh.... mafia. I'd like to see the vote count too. I think we have a majority on Risen being red, but I have no idea who is in second right now. That's important, because close, contested votes are always great ways to catch mafia. Can you explain how I sound like mafia? No one in this game seems to be capable of explaining anything, just asserting stuff without ever backing up anything with a shred of evidence or reason. | ||
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StimilantE
61 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On November 29 2011 19:47 StimilantE wrote: Can't explain why I think you're mafia bugs, I just think you are, thats why I voted u. quote of the game. Quote of the fucking game right here. I make a post saying think before you vote, or you're a goddamn sheep and this genius comes and says this. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On November 29 2011 19:47 StimilantE wrote: Can't explain why I think you're mafia bugs, I just think you are, thats why I voted u. Shut up. That's not how you play mafia. Bugs sounds aggressive, that doesn't make him mafia. You do retarded shit, that doesn't make you mafia. If you want to vote for him build a case against him, explaining your thought process. If you can't be arsed playing the game, why the fuck did you sign up? | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
+ this mass of stealthvoters. | ||
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