EPTTL Mafia LV - Page 145
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GreYMisT
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I want to go to bed guys  | ||
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GreYMisT
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On June 11 2012 08:32 Toadesstern wrote: I want to go to bed guys Too bad | ||
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Day 6 "Im telling you, I KNOW who the Irkens are!" Probulous yelled at his monitor. "We'll need a bit more than the meager evidence you provided" said Meapak_Ziphh as a shadowy figure on the screen. "We don't have time for this! We only have a little bit of time left before they can trace this communication..." Probulous's Voice trailed off as he watched another figure enter the screen, and shoot Meapak_Ziphh. Probulous exclaimed, and then turned only to find a similar fate would shortly befall Him. Dib (Probulous), was killed! + Show Spoiler + Welcome to TL Mafia LV! You are Dib, a boy genius and young paranormal investigator. You knew of the Irken invasion since day 1, and are adept at sniffing out its influence. Once per night, you can investigate a player and discover if they are an Invader or an Earthling. A lot of people have questioned your sanity, but you can't be insane...right? You win with Earth Meapak_Ziphh, the earthling, was killed! It is now Day 6! with 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch! | ||
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Toadesstern
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##vote papapanda | ||
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Kenpachi
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On June 11 2012 06:24 EchelonTee wrote: Yeah I'm guessing ken is scum and trying to bring wiggles down with him. Ken isn't a scumbag, he wouldn't out someone like that. I have Yoo reread, but yah then how would i be doing it? | ||
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Kenpachi
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##vote papapanda gotta kill wiggles next | ||
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marvellosity
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On June 11 2012 08:45 Toadesstern wrote: We need every single out of our 5 townies to vote this guy. If one townie votes someone else we lose the game! ##vote papapanda I had papapanda and Hyaach as the two I wanted to lynch today, with papapanda first choice, so: ##Vote: papapanda | ||
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Toadesstern
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:p + Show Spoiler [encrypted] + On June 10 2012 23:28 Toadesstern wrote: Open when time is right with the right key: I gave the key to people I trust :3 => Here's what's happening I really doubt Kenpachi is mafia. I'd give him a 30% chance to be mafia tops and say Wiggles is the other 70% combined for the last mafia player. Well more like 69% and 1% whatever else but you know what I'm talking about. First of all a short explanation why I kept saying Kenpachi is mafia: 1) I want to survive :p 2) I want to see reactions 3) I wanted to make everyone (including mafia) think wiggles is clearly town which should result in mafia shooting him if he really is because he has 2 votes, therefore reducing the chance of being wrong myself. 4) Toad from Mason QT Oh and Kenpachi is literally unreadable imo. He's lightgreen because I already had to many people as yellow / orange. If one of Hyaach / Maju / papanda flips town he's mafia. Not sure about the 4th and not sure if we can trust the green check on wiggles. I'd say we lynch maju first. If mafia don't shoot wiggles as mayor with a green check on him we probably have to assume wiggles is GF? Toad from Mason QT I don't want to lynch Kenpachi 2nd unless wiggles really gets shot. I'm not 100% sure on Kenpachi yet and I'm not 100% on wiggles yet. Yes I said he has a green check on him and therefore he's good but I want to make the thread believe that's my opinion. If Wiggles get's shot by mafia instead of someone I have a strong town read on (myself, MZ, prob, marv?) because of the green check and the double vote because they think that I think he's good that's awesome. So no problem with telling people we lynch Kenpachi the next day because that's what I want them to believe but unless Wiggles really gets shot this very night I'd rather lynch into hyaach or papapanda first. Cya tomorrow. Here's why Wiggles is mafia and Kenpachi (proably) is not: Mafia gets to choose who gets what role: Do you think mafia would give the GF role to some random noob? No they'd give it to Wiggles / Kenpachi. Now keep that in mind. They know Wiggles is going to get GF. Perfect scenario for him to run for mayor as mafia. He should have been shot loooong ago if he's really town but whatever, maybe mafia just didn't shoot him because people thought he might be town. Anyways if I were mafia I'd 100% make my vet in the team run for mayor as GF. If he's not shot people will DT him and see he's green and therefore okay. Perfect scenario for mafia. Wiggles does nothing: Check Wiggles filter and point me to something that gave you the feeling Wiggles is actually helping town. I can't find a single moment like that with the exception of the Maju vote but we'll take about that later. Yeah Kenpachi is the same but Kenpachi is always useless, no matter of alignment. Wiggles usually ends up being helpful as town and he's just not this game. What happened d1: We basicly had 2 options for a d1 lynch imo: Zealos and Kita. Zealos would have been the cowards way that would have ended up being right and Kita would have been the balls-of-steel way that would have ended up with town loosing a vet and a medic but noone knew about the medic at that point in time. What did Wiggles do? He basicly policy lynched a noob. Noone had a read on Sinenesis that was anything more that "that guy's a noob". Nothing, and that lynch was horribad. The most useless lynch I've ever seen. True-random-chance to hit mafia combined with 0 information town can get. I would consider lynching Kita d1 (with the information that he's a medic!) a better lynch than this guy. Lynching Sinensis was the best move you can make from a mafia point of view. You leave town shattered in pieces asking each other "gawd, what a noob, what happened?" without giving them ANY information and at the same time it's literally the SAFEST lynch ever if you are scared. Why am I talking about a safe lynch? Picture Wiggles lynching Kita. What would have happened? People would run wild and accuse Wiggles for mislynching a vet on d1. So there's a nother reason why Sinensis was the perfect mafia lynch. Now you could be here standing: Well Toad that's all nifty and nice but that could just be really bad luck. I'd tell you something along the lines of Yeah, that's really convenient, isn't it and argue along with my next couple of posts why that's not an option. But if you're reading this I'm probably dead so I have to get everything in here Check the vote patterns and Wiggles actions: Especially the one were Manason got lynched. You remember me that night? I tried to get people off Mana and vote Maju instead because everyone who was considered to be mafia in my spreadsheet was voting Manason. Wiggles did nothing until something like 3 hours prior to the deadline. There's two important points here: 1) He started doing so REALLY LATE. We had something like 9 votes on mana and we needed 8. Don't know if it's really those numbers but it wa barely a majority. Now take that into account and consider Wiggles pushing Maju at that point of time. He could have EASILY helped pushing Maju early but he choose not to. Why? Because we had the slightest majority ever and he knew it would make him look good while knowing townies are probably to scared to get off Manason due to the fear of a No-Lynch with so little time left and couple of europeans probably already asleep. 2) Marv and ET both said they wanted to lynch Mana instead of Maju. That means Wiggles knew that we're already 2 townies short and even if townies would not be scared of the soon to be deadline it would not work out anyways because both Marv and ET both said they don't want to get off Mana at all. Example: On June 07 2012 02:36 EchelonTee wrote: and well, Marv was the dude who did the case so obviously he's convinced that Manason is the better lynch as well.what in the balls is happening? toad you want to switch lynch off manason? So really, Wiggles voting Maju instead of Mana is not alignment indicating AT ALL. If he take the "knowledge" into account that he can just tell his mafia buddies to lurk until deadline and not get back in here AND both ET and Marv not willing to vote Maju that's not a tell at all. From that point of view it is the easiest way to get towncred because he knew all along a switch is not going to happen. Now if you take the really bad timing of his posts as well that now looks like a nultell combined with a mafia agenda because clearly it was AGAIN the best move possible for a mafia. Remember what I said about the lynch earlier? Yeah another point that seems to be really bad luck for wiggles, or just plain and simple mafia agenda Keeping Wiggles accountable This is just a bonus for the lulz. Remember his mayoral campaing? I said that shit is on the surface the most good looking stuff I've ever seen while not saying A THING, just like ET's campaing but ET's not Wiggles. Wiggles should know better than that. And yeah that's why both gave me a bad feeling d1. Some highlights: On May 27 2012 18:22 Mr. Wiggles wrote: So, I'm going to start off by saying that I'm running for Leader/Vice-Leader. I'd prefer if I can hit the vice-leader spot out of the two, and I'll explain why further on. On May 27 2012 18:22 Mr. Wiggles wrote: This is what I'm talking about when saying stuff that looks good but is literally nothing. This phrase looks incredible nice and is an attempt to get peoples trust. It's basicly: "see I'm not even going to try and influence you guys by posting my recent results!" which is incredible manipulative. If he's town he doesn't need to post like that. He could have just left it out, because again, the fact that he's not telling us his recent results has no purpose other than telling us that.I'm not going to go too deep into my past performance since I've always felt it's a waste of time and doesn't really say anything On May 27 2012 18:22 Mr. Wiggles wrote: We should take him accountable on this one. Not for the sake of taking someone accountable because that can ruin games in lylo / mylo but he has NOT proven a thing in this game. He did nothing. Furthemore he just told us he won't talk about recent games but goes on telling us how good he is. That's not a bad sign. I did the same telling you guys I'm awesome in rainbow colors. But I didn't tell you guys I'm not going to earlier looking as manipulative as you can get.It doesn't matter what you've done in past games, it matters what you're doing in this game. But, for those who really want it, I'm a decent enough scum-hunter, I'm town, and I hope I'll be able to demonstrate those to you and get elected. On May 27 2012 18:22 Mr. Wiggles wrote: I don't have a kill target right now, but if I'm in line to be elected leader, I will let the town know what I'm thinking with some advance notice, so as not to surprise anyone with my choice for the lynch. I'm going to play out Day 1 as normal, and as soon as I develop a decent scum read, I'll let the town know, and we can discuss it. In the end, I'm hoping we can base the game around actual discussion of scum targets instead of the trend I've seen lately of someone making a case, no one commenting on it, and then people just calling others scum with no reasoning to back it up. If you want to lynch someone, I expect you to actually come up with reasons why it's best to do so, and not just blatant sheeping. As well, if you disagree with a lynch, actually speak up. I don't even care if you're wrong, because the point of discussion is to discard the bad or wrong ideas and move forward with the good ones. Again, this is total nothingness. On May 27 2012 18:22 Mr. Wiggles wrote: However, like I said at the beginning of my post, I'd prefer to actually be elected to the position of vice-leader, since I believe that position can be abused much more by scum being elected to it, and has the potential to generate a ton of confusion. I also don't even trust most townies to it, since lots of people will misuse the role and cause as much confusion as if scum had it. Being manipulative again. On May 27 2012 18:22 Mr. Wiggles wrote: I'm planning to play the same regardless of which position you put me in, or if you elect me at all. However, I believe I can use the Leader position effectively, but would prefer to be able to safekeep the position of Vice-leader, to keep it away from not only scum, but also compulsive townies. I'd like it if you vote for me, but you should also consider a second person you would like to be elected along with me, since for whichever role, we still need to have either a vice-leader or leader to go along with it. Come on, everyone knows that themselves... So this whole thing is based on nothingness, which is not a surprise because it's d1 and his first post. But he's trying to make it look really really good when there's no need to be that manipulative at all. Also he wants to go for pardoner instead of mayor. Also all those phrases that look good but really aren't are involved: "Doing what town wants to do rather than doing a rambo" (not what he said but something along those lines) and stuff like that. It's the same ET said and people considered to be pro-town when he said he'll lynch who town considers to be the best lynch. That's the cowards way out and already planting the excuse "Sry guys I did what you wanted to" instead of just lynching who he THOUGHT to be most likely mafia. But it sounds really good because people like hearing the guy with power is doing what we want him to do instead of doing what he wants to do because it sounds good although it really isn't. Conclusion: If I am dead and Wiggles is still alive he needs to die. I am not 100% sure on Wiggles but I'm like 70% sure on him and the other 30% are Kenpachi, which is the reason I said Kenpachi is mafia and Wiggles is confirmed town because just for the slight chance of actually being wrong I wanted mafia to help me here. If I am wrong about Wiggles mafia will have to shoot him. If I see ANYONE being town who voted Kenpachi without a good reason (like Wiggles being dead and flipping town because mafia shot him, or a red check on Kenpachi. Pretty much nothing else is a reason I'd accept) I'll cyber-pucnh people in the face postgame. So Lynch Papapanda + Hyaach + Wiggles. They are the last remaining Mafias. | ||
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Toadesstern
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On June 11 2012 05:40 Toadesstern wrote: Keep that one in mind when reading the big post I did please. Talking about the encrypted one. I consider papapanda to be claimed mafia at this point of time. We had all this "yeah lynch Kenpachi next cycle" talk yesterday and clearly Papapanda gets in here talking about how we have to lynch into a vet due do the fact that we only hit not-vets so far. Clearly this was influenced by all the talk about how we need to lynch Kenpachi the next cycle. If we mislynch today it's GG. He's trying to get us on Kenpachi without saying a thing. He's saying both look equally scummy but clearly the intend is to get us on Kenpachi with all the talk from me, MZ and prob about how we're going to lynch Kenpachi. | ||
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