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On October 22 2012 00:51 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 00:45 Z-BosoN wrote:On October 22 2012 00:41 marvellosity wrote:
Z-Bo, I love that you're wary of me and then you conclude your post with the two reads I had. Woe is me ^_^ Don't understand this logic. I must conclude you are town to agree with your reads? So if I think v7 is scum, then everyone who finds him suspicious I cannot be weary off? + Show Spoiler +Also, fuck off, I found keir first  wary, not weary dear. And back off, tiger. No of course I don't have to be town, but if someone agrees with my reads, I generally feel better about them. The "woe is me ^^" was supposed to indicate I wasn't deadly serious. @DP: T.T
Wary. K.
Yea, I didn't get the " woe is me" bit, just figured that's some stupid thing brits say.
On October 22 2012 00:52 DarthPunk wrote:
Also ZB. Postgame I would like to go through how you make such accurate reads on me all the time. It get's frustrating as scum. (and also hilarious)
Oh-oh. This obviously-I'm-town post comes mostly from scum DP. Don't get so confident, I'm not dead sure on you yet!
So guys, it's wonderful that we are having this little afternoon chat. Let's take advantage of it and discuss what is going to be the general policy here. v7 has 3 straight votes and 3 other people to find him suspicious. The only reason he's not dead yet is that we are giving him some time to properly post, right?
I think, for now, we should move our focus to other people.
In the eventuality he is town, scum are generally gonna stay quiet and let him die, which I fear might be what is happening.
I'm going to read a little more on other people I've not given much attention and see what I can figure.
Mainly, iamp and austin. (Austin has yet to make a case on me, definitely not his town meta)
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On October 22 2012 01:00 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 00:57 austinmcc wrote:On October 22 2012 00:52 DarthPunk wrote:
Also ZB. Postgame I would like to go through how you make such accurate reads on me all the time. It get's frustrating as scum. (and also hilarious) It's mainly because Z-BosoN is ALWAYS scum and so he knows alignments. I know there must be things I need to change or play around. It bugs me.
As scum you push bullshit cases
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EBWOP: Also I am awake but I have to leave in ~an hour for a while.
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On October 22 2012 01:03 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 01:00 DarthPunk wrote:On October 22 2012 00:57 austinmcc wrote:On October 22 2012 00:52 DarthPunk wrote:
Also ZB. Postgame I would like to go through how you make such accurate reads on me all the time. It get's frustrating as scum. (and also hilarious) It's mainly because Z-BosoN is ALWAYS scum and so he knows alignments. I know there must be things I need to change or play around. It bugs me. As scum you push bullshit cases
I post bullshit cases as either alignment.
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On October 22 2012 01:05 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 01:03 Keirathi wrote:On October 22 2012 01:00 DarthPunk wrote:On October 22 2012 00:57 austinmcc wrote:On October 22 2012 00:52 DarthPunk wrote:
Also ZB. Postgame I would like to go through how you make such accurate reads on me all the time. It get's frustrating as scum. (and also hilarious) It's mainly because Z-BosoN is ALWAYS scum and so he knows alignments. I know there must be things I need to change or play around. It bugs me. As scum you push bullshit cases I post bullshit cases as either alignment.
I said "push" not post. Like, your case against me in Liquid City was much stronger than your case against kush, but you pushed Kush super hard.
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Sniped by austin. There we are, finally. Now waiting for the two days of unforgiving tunneling from him
Hello Keirathi! How goes your scum life?
Any thoughts you would like to trouble us with?
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On October 22 2012 01:07 Keirathi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 01:05 DarthPunk wrote:On October 22 2012 01:03 Keirathi wrote:On October 22 2012 01:00 DarthPunk wrote:On October 22 2012 00:57 austinmcc wrote:On October 22 2012 00:52 DarthPunk wrote:
Also ZB. Postgame I would like to go through how you make such accurate reads on me all the time. It get's frustrating as scum. (and also hilarious) It's mainly because Z-BosoN is ALWAYS scum and so he knows alignments. I know there must be things I need to change or play around. It bugs me. As scum you push bullshit cases I post bullshit cases as either alignment. I said "push" not post. Like, your case against me in Liquid City was much stronger than your case against kush, but you pushed Kush super hard.
ok 3am and now I am mis-reading lol. Huh. Thanks for the tip.
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Anyways, about v7:
I'm not entirely sold yet. He did the exact same thing as town in GSL 1. "Hey guys, I'll post my reads later when I get home" and then disappeared until 10 minutes before the deadline and claimed doc at the last second :o
It's a stupid thing to do, but particularly for him, I don't think that necessarily makes him scummy.
Until he comes and posts something more substantial, he's a null'ish read, for me.
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On October 22 2012 01:08 Z-BosoN wrote:Sniped by austin. There we are, finally. Now waiting for the two days of unforgiving tunneling from him Hello Keirathi! How goes your scum life? Any thoughts you would like to trouble us with?
Oooh, you colored my name red! Exciting.
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On October 22 2012 01:08 Z-BosoN wrote:Sniped by austin. There we are, finally. Now waiting for the two days of unforgiving tunneling from him Hello Keirathi! How goes your scum life? Any thoughts you would like to trouble us with?
Oh shit. I just got the joke. Cause austin tunnells you all the time. hmm. That's weird. Austin is acting way different from the past two town games of his that I was in. I need to look over them again.
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On October 22 2012 01:02 DarthPunk wrote:
Austin any reads aside from a not scum Draz?
Right at the moment, a town read or two, finding this whole v7 thing very odd but keeping my vote on him.
I'll note that I like your response to the atmosphere of the thread. I typed out a stupid post earlier about how there were so many jokes, and it was a lovely town atmosphere, but it was too nice and we were chatting too much and not poking around enough.
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On October 22 2012 01:10 Keirathi wrote:
Anyways, about v7:
I'm not entirely sold yet. He did the exact same thing as town in GSL 1. "Hey guys, I'll post my reads later when I get home" and then disappeared until 10 minutes before the deadline and claimed doc at the last second :o
It's a stupid thing to do, but particularly for him, I don't think that necessarily makes him scummy.
Until he comes and posts something more substantial, he's a null'ish read, for me.
So who is scummy? Everyone loves giving town reads this game it seems.
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On October 22 2012 01:18 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 01:10 Keirathi wrote:
Anyways, about v7:
I'm not entirely sold yet. He did the exact same thing as town in GSL 1. "Hey guys, I'll post my reads later when I get home" and then disappeared until 10 minutes before the deadline and claimed doc at the last second :o
It's a stupid thing to do, but particularly for him, I don't think that necessarily makes him scummy.
Until he comes and posts something more substantial, he's a null'ish read, for me. So who is scummy? Everyone loves giving town reads this game it seems.
I don't really have any solid scum reads.
Not enough content to go off of.
Slightly on the scummy side for Drazak because of the way he parked his "pressure" vote without there actually being any pressure behind it, but nothing else has really stood out.
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On a more serious note.
Ok, gone over austin's filter. He seems a little scummy guys. His only read so far is an easy one in which he openly says that is a provocating vote.
On October 21 2012 08:24 austinmcc wrote:
Realized just saying "Man, this guy hasn't said much" isn't going to do anything.
##Vote: vaderseven
Much of your posting is just about DP last night, and everyone seems to have concluded that DP is town because of how he explained/tried to explain himself. That was just easy activity and an easy way to make it look like you cared about something.
That applies to me too. We can all be suspicious of EVERYONE who has basically only been active for that.
drazak.
There was a lot of discussion about DP last night. In light of that discussion, do you still feel that your vote is on scum? If so, why?
If not, out of the players who were poking at DP tonight, who looks the scummiest in the way they interacted with DP?
His other main post contains a ton of fluff and doesn't really conclude anything:
On October 21 2012 08:02 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2012 06:24 Z-BosoN wrote:
lol, my vote was a pre-game joke.
##Unvote
Let's not die guys. This game will take forever if it's this inactive.
Austin, you've played with Kei in liquid city. What do you make of him? I don't remember kei in LC tbh. I was mostly inactive D1, came back looking at those couple specific people, died before I had a good handle on the full game. Kei from Aperture 2 I feel like is a solid townie as far as being active, looking town, once the game starts. Not...the type of player who takes advantage of that, though? Basically was the towniest person in game, was going to get protection, but kind of let spammier people take over and direct the flow of the game, and noticed that that was happening (kei, your game was much more fun when we were scumhunting than claiming/solving the game bit). I expect some good and insightful posts from him, but I haven't seen him be particularly aggressive. I think we also played...rockband? And maybe another game? I'll have to look through. I don't have a big meta handle on keirathi, but I'm also not generally good at catching people via meta or even USING meta. I mainly focus on picking out odd questions, or questions that never got pursued. That seems to be when I'm most effective, and so I'm going to try and mine the thread hard for things that stick out.
Right now, and I haven't looked at his past play recently, but v7 is sticking out to me somewhat. The DP stuff was EASY to mine for activity last night, poke at it poke at it poke at it. And very safe too, because the way he started to flop around felt townie, so you could attack attack attack and just say "Eh, his flopping around townie." A couple of us did that, but DP has almost only talked about his past games and the DP stuff last night. (AND THEN HE MAY HAVE SPOILED GSL, UNSURE, I AIN'T CLICKING THAT UNTIL I WATCH) There's nothing more than that to go on, but out of all the people who have some posts, his feel like there's the least in them.
Not relevant to anything that's happening, but spoilered for DP and so thread can see my thought process: + Show Spoiler +On October 20 2012 14:00 DarthPunk wrote:
So what you are saying is that me asking the only person in the thread at that point makes less sense than calling for a mass claim 30 mins into day one.
0_o I asked if you thought he was scum because of this On October 20 2012 13:20 DarthPunk wrote:
If there was even the slightest chance that draz was scum and would be less comfortable fake claiming it was a better play than the alternative IMO.
I am done with this. You don't agree. so be it.
If you didn't have any particular reason to believe draz was scum, then I was uncertain why you'd only ask HIM to roleclaim. The logic that this was a better play than not asking people would hold true for everyone, so if you were REALLY hanging your hat on "asking and making them claim VT is helpful" then you should have been asking EVERYONE, unless you had particular scumreads. That's why I ask, because that logic that you gave wasn't draz-specific, yet your question WAS draz-specific. There's a disconnect there, that I felt like would be addressed if you actually thought he was scum. I think asking ONE person this thing that you think is good to get answers to is weird, because you SHOULD be thinking it's good to ask every person in the game that.
He's also being very non-committing in Drazak. I find this weird because it really depends on your opinion of what scum tend to do. Drazak said something that's either townie-looking or scummy-looking, depending on your view of it. It's way too passive to simply say "null read" on him. This makes me very suspicious of austin.
On October 22 2012 00:17 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2012 00:13 DarthPunk wrote:On October 22 2012 00:05 marvellosity wrote:
DP, is it your natural inclination, as scum, to say "let's lynch a townie!"? Or is your natural inclination to avoid saying anything like that at all costs? It is my natural inclination to want to lynch a townie because this ensures your survival for another day. VE knows this. That's why he looks at people who jump on a wagon like Draz did very closely. I even fell for it last game. It's your natural inclination to want to lynch a townie. Yes. It is NOT normal for you to say "Let's lynch a townie." There's a huge difference. You say, "This guy (and I don't want to tell you this, but he's totes town) looks scummy for x and y, I think we should vote him." You do not go, "Attention town, I think this guy is townie, let's lynch him." The vote on someone you explicitly say doesn't feel scummy is NOT good townie play. But it's NOT good scum play. Again, look at it from both sides. It's not that the vote makes no sense from a townie, it's that the vote makes no sense from either alignment. Therefore, you can't get a read off it; it's null.
It's very unlike him to take this sort of stance. In both townie games I've played with him, he would madly accuse people of being scum, and I can't remember him being this impartial.
##FoS austin
+ Show Spoiler +The stupid thing brits thing say was meant as a joke. Looking back at it, seems like it may have been a bit overboard. Sorry if someone has taken offense by this 
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On October 22 2012 01:10 Keirathi wrote:
Anyways, about v7:
I'm not entirely sold yet. He did the exact same thing as town in GSL 1. "Hey guys, I'll post my reads later when I get home" and then disappeared until 10 minutes before the deadline and claimed doc at the last second :o
It's a stupid thing to do, but particularly for him, I don't think that necessarily makes him scummy.
Until he comes and posts something more substantial, he's a null'ish read, for me.
bullshit
he is scum for what he has done in this game. his posts are basically all talking about himself and he barely commented on anything else
Also dont you think he would learn from his failure from last game and wouldn't do what he did. V7 is scum for his actions in this game.
and.......
this is a phone post if i ever saw one
On October 21 2012 10:10 vaderseven wrote:
I will post more tonight after work. Posting from atm and I read everything since I last posted.... not much going on go?nna have to examine things close tonight.
Meaning he has the ability to check the thread.
The least he could do is check in.He hasn't. i have a big scum read on him.
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Blazinghand
United States25560 Posts
Vote Count!
vaderseven (3) - austinmcc, iamperfection, Hapahauli
Not Voting (6) - Keirathi, Marvellosity, vaderseven, Z-Boson, Drazak, DarthPunk
With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.
Day ends when a majority is reached.
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Sorry sorry, I fell asleep last night watching some burn notice, V7 saying he'd post and then not is pretty serious stalling. I'd like to take a bit more of a look at keir but I think I'm going to part a vote on V7 so that he must reply when he returns, I feel that it's certainly been long enough to be after work for him. it's been 16 hours.
##Vote vaderseven
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Blazinghand
United States25560 Posts
Vote Count!
vaderseven (4) - austinmcc, iamperfection, Hapahauli, drazak
Not Voting (5) - Keirathi, Marvellosity, vaderseven, Z-Boson, DarthPunk
With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.
Day ends when a majority is reached.
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On October 22 2012 02:40 drazak wrote:
Sorry sorry, I fell asleep last night watching some burn notice, V7 saying he'd post and then not is pretty serious stalling. I'd like to take a bit more of a look at keir but I think I'm going to part a vote on V7 so that he must reply when he returns, I feel that it's certainly been long enough to be after work for him. it's been 16 hours.
##Vote vaderseven
So is this a "I think you're scum" vote or a "pressure to post" vote?
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I think he's stalling and I'd like to see him post, I wanted to see him post last night when I fell asleep, but it was a little too early.
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