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tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
August 25 2011 13:27 GMT
#261
No, Chaos, I'm not. You clearly have not been reading!
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
August 25 2011 13:27 GMT
#262
Ferryman and Wiggles are away, and not likely to be able to change their votes before the deadline. If we want to avoid an extension, then we can´t rely on them.

As for me, I´m now considering Tnkted to be just as scummy as Cyber, but hiding it better. He is also a veteran player, Cyber can be excused as this is his first game, and I don´t like lynching a player on the first day in his first game. I also feel like there are more connections between Tnkted and other players, this is a weak scumtell but it´s the one thing I was missing when looking at Cyber.

##Unvote
##Vote Tnkted
:3
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
August 25 2011 13:29 GMT
#263
screw it, at least he can't call me mafia.

someone hammer it so we can move on without extending the day.

##Unvote
##Vote tnkted
Computer says mafia
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
August 25 2011 13:34 GMT
#264
On August 25 2011 20:32 Palmar wrote:
I'd rather lynch almost everyone in this town than him.
On August 25 2011 22:29 Palmar wrote:
screw it, at least he can't call me mafia.

someone hammer it so we can move on without extending the day.

##Unvote
##Vote tnkted

Palmar, of all players in this game, you looked like the last one that would switch your vote, what changed your mind?
:3
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
August 25 2011 13:34 GMT
#265
Since yall seem to want to lynch the most active townie on d1...

I'm agreeing with the change of heart about cyber_cheese. His response to pressure was to realize how scummy he was acting and to then try to change his ways. So, ##unvote and ##vote: Palmar.

I've got a series of meetings coming up that will take most of the day, punctured with brief breaks where I can read and catch up on the thread, but I probably won't have time to really post any big ol posts, just a few one-liners.

For when I flip green:

Probably Town players:

Erandorr
cyber_cheese
Navillus


Scummy players:
Wiggles
Palmar
eii
JeeJee
Forumite
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
August 25 2011 13:35 GMT
#266
kk lol
gl town
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
August 25 2011 13:35 GMT
#267
Those lists weren't in any particular order btw
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
August 25 2011 13:36 GMT
#268
Tnkted, coulde you vote using the established format, a new line, and no colon : between vote and the player?
:3
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
August 25 2011 13:39 GMT
#269
##vote palmar

I'm used to voting in a separate thread, where formatting doesn't matter as much :x
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
August 25 2011 13:39 GMT
#270
LOL

##vote palmar
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
August 25 2011 13:59 GMT
#271
On August 25 2011 22:34 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2011 20:32 Palmar wrote:
I'd rather lynch almost everyone in this town than him.
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2011 22:29 Palmar wrote:
screw it, at least he can't call me mafia.

someone hammer it so we can move on without extending the day.

##Unvote
##Vote tnkted

Palmar, of all players in this game, you looked like the last one that would switch your vote, what changed your mind?


Ferryman has a good argument.

People don't listen to good arguments because they're afraid of being wrong. I just spent XLIV presenting good arguments only to be ignored so people could kill some townies who are obviously town but make silly mistakes.

All I got for that performance was people hating me or thinking I'm scum because I was right, and I told them they were wrong. I don't think tnkted is scum, but whatever, someone else can take the responsibility of convincing us to do the right thing.

If there is ANY chance we can switch to wiggles, that's what I want to do.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
August 25 2011 14:01 GMT
#272
Actually screw it.

I have a new strategy, I'll never vote for people I think are town. I'll actually force a no-lynch over it. I'm just not going to spam the thread away trying to convince people I'm right.

##Unvote tnkted
##Vote Mr. Wiggles
Computer says mafia
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
August 25 2011 14:07 GMT
#273
On August 25 2011 22:39 tnkted wrote:
I'm used to voting in a separate thread, where formatting doesn't matter as much :x
Hear, hear!

On August 25 2011 23:01 Palmar wrote:
I have a new strategy, I'll never vote for people I think are town. I'll actually force a no-lynch over it. I'm just not going to spam the thread away trying to convince people I'm right.
Right...
:3
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
August 25 2011 14:15 GMT
#274
On August 25 2011 23:07 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2011 23:01 Palmar wrote:
I have a new strategy, I'll never vote for people I think are town. I'll actually force a no-lynch over it. I'm just not going to spam the thread away trying to convince people I'm right.
Right...


What's your reasoning to believe Wiggles is town?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
August 25 2011 14:33 GMT
#275
Actually, fuck it, I hate losing.

Tnkted is not scum because of this tiny little exchange.


On August 24 2011 00:57 tnkted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 00:55 Palmar wrote:
On August 24 2011 00:46 tnkted wrote:
On August 24 2011 00:29 Palmar wrote:
I have discarded my win condition, my sole object this game will be to convince Jackal I'm town, seeing as it's a feat I've never achieved.


Oh!? You have a win condition other than winning with town?


derp.


lololo

#vote palmar



Thing is, the lololo thing is too unforced, too reactive and too casual for him to possibly be scum. If he was scum, he'd know I was town and be a little more hesitant to take my "derp" as an admission of slipping up (whereas, it's real intention was to portray the silliness of the accusation upon tnkted).

If he's scum he's really good scum. I don't think he'd ever do what he did there as scum. He could have pushed the same issue, trying to paint my joke as a slip, but he would have gone about it completely differently if he was scum.
Computer says mafia
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
August 25 2011 14:36 GMT
#276
On August 25 2011 23:15 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2011 23:07 Forumite wrote:
On August 25 2011 23:01 Palmar wrote:
I have a new strategy, I'll never vote for people I think are town. I'll actually force a no-lynch over it. I'm just not going to spam the thread away trying to convince people I'm right.
Right...


What's your reasoning to believe Wiggles is town?

I don´t trust the primary argument made against him. Meta is usefull, sometimes, but I don´t think it´s applicable in finding a new kind of 3rd party with an unknown optimal play, especially as the meta argument focused specifically on his first post, which wanted to start a discussion more than anything. Since then wiggles has sometimes overreacted in his defences, there might be something there, but some players has said that Wiggles is hard to read, and I´m prepared to trust that Meta more than what Ferryman brought up.
:3
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
August 25 2011 14:41 GMT
#277
On August 25 2011 23:36 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2011 23:15 Palmar wrote:
On August 25 2011 23:07 Forumite wrote:
On August 25 2011 23:01 Palmar wrote:
I have a new strategy, I'll never vote for people I think are town. I'll actually force a no-lynch over it. I'm just not going to spam the thread away trying to convince people I'm right.
Right...


What's your reasoning to believe Wiggles is town?

I don´t trust the primary argument made against him. Meta is usefull, sometimes, but I don´t think it´s applicable in finding a new kind of 3rd party with an unknown optimal play, especially as the meta argument focused specifically on his first post, which wanted to start a discussion more than anything. Since then wiggles has sometimes overreacted in his defences, there might be something there, but some players has said that Wiggles is hard to read, and I´m prepared to trust that Meta more than what Ferryman brought up.


Then take a look at some of the things that have happened in the game.

Wiggles decided to vote Eiii in his opening post. There is nothing wrong with randomly voting, but the fact that he felt the need to specify it was a pressure vote (through linking an awesome song by bowie/queen), shows inherent signs of guilt, and not wanting to stick his neck out. I don't even understand what the purpose of voting someone with the intent of only pressuring would be. At he point in time he threw down that vote it'd have been more sensical to go after one of the players that have posted, or to simply claim the vote on Eiii was to get rid of lurkers.
Computer says mafia
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
August 25 2011 14:43 GMT
#278
On August 25 2011 23:33 Palmar wrote:
Actually, fuck it, I hate losing.

Tnkted is not scum because of this tiny little exchange.


Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 00:57 tnkted wrote:
On August 24 2011 00:55 Palmar wrote:
On August 24 2011 00:46 tnkted wrote:
On August 24 2011 00:29 Palmar wrote:
I have discarded my win condition, my sole object this game will be to convince Jackal I'm town, seeing as it's a feat I've never achieved.


Oh!? You have a win condition other than winning with town?


derp.


lololo

#vote palmar



Thing is, the lololo thing is too unforced, too reactive and too casual for him to possibly be scum. If he was scum, he'd know I was town and be a little more hesitant to take my "derp" as an admission of slipping up (whereas, it's real intention was to portray the silliness of the accusation upon tnkted).

If he's scum he's really good scum. I don't think he'd ever do what he did there as scum. He could have pushed the same issue, trying to paint my joke as a slip, but he would have gone about it completely differently if he was scum.

At first it looked like that, an easygoing joke-vote, but this dance has kept going, you and Tnkted have kept voting on eachother, and pushed weak cases, then later on backtracked to defend the other if it gets too strong. Make up your mind.
:3
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
August 25 2011 14:46 GMT
#279
On August 25 2011 23:41 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2011 23:36 Forumite wrote:
On August 25 2011 23:15 Palmar wrote:
On August 25 2011 23:07 Forumite wrote:
On August 25 2011 23:01 Palmar wrote:
I have a new strategy, I'll never vote for people I think are town. I'll actually force a no-lynch over it. I'm just not going to spam the thread away trying to convince people I'm right.
Right...


What's your reasoning to believe Wiggles is town?

I don´t trust the primary argument made against him. Meta is usefull, sometimes, but I don´t think it´s applicable in finding a new kind of 3rd party with an unknown optimal play, especially as the meta argument focused specifically on his first post, which wanted to start a discussion more than anything. Since then wiggles has sometimes overreacted in his defences, there might be something there, but some players has said that Wiggles is hard to read, and I´m prepared to trust that Meta more than what Ferryman brought up.


Then take a look at some of the things that have happened in the game.

Wiggles decided to vote Eiii in his opening post. There is nothing wrong with randomly voting, but the fact that he felt the need to specify it was a pressure vote (through linking an awesome song by bowie/queen), shows inherent signs of guilt, and not wanting to stick his neck out. I don't even understand what the purpose of voting someone with the intent of only pressuring would be. At he point in time he threw down that vote it'd have been more sensical to go after one of the players that have posted, or to simply claim the vote on Eiii was to get rid of lurkers.

There´s nothing weird about a pressure vote. Stating that it´s for pressure isn´t bad either, Eiii still has to respond, and Wiggles doesn´t have to answer to people who use that vote as an argument that he´s aggressively trying to lynch at random. I don´t find anything especially scummy about a pressure vote.

Also, I like that song.
:3
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-25 15:22:21
August 25 2011 14:46 GMT
#280
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tnkted (5)
chaos13
Cyber_Cheese
Jackal58
Eiii
Forumite

Cyber_Cheese (3)
Sevryn
Erandorr
JeeJee

Mr. Wiggles (2)
TheFerryman
Palmar

Eiii (1)
Mr. Wiggles

Palmar (1)
tnkted

Not voted
Navillus



The required majority of 7 has not been reached before the deadline. EXTENSION was used. Which means Navillus also gets stay of mercy.

The NEW and FINAL deadline is August 26 2011 23:46 KST, which is 14:46 GMT (+00:00)
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