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On March 29 2011 16:59 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 16:52 Kavdragon wrote:On March 29 2011 16:49 CubEdIn wrote:
HOWEVER, I'd like it if someone (preferably coag, since he's been dismissing this a lot) could explain to me why we are not even CONSIDERING the fact that Lemon could be the scum? He knew Coag had the gun so they could have used him against annul, just in case.
So I don't know, I see the reason why it's more likely that Tack is scum. I don't see why we are completely dismissing Lemon though. Mafia likely hit Annul, so why would they also redirect coag's bullet into him? Ugh....GGQ explains it. Mafia thought Coag had stun gun which would have disabled annul's bomb, making it safe to hit him. So they mind control Coag to "disable" bomb. What really happened was that Coag had a real gun and shot annul instead. Mafia didn't expect this.
Pardon me if I'm misunderstanding, but Lemon knew that Coag had a KP gun, correct? If Lemon was mafia, they would know that Redirecting coag's shot to annul would result in a double hit on annul. Since there would be no reason to double stack annul, it is unlikely that Lemon is mafia. That's what I was trying to say in answer to CubEdIn.
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On March 29 2011 17:16 Kavdragon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 16:59 chaoser wrote:On March 29 2011 16:52 Kavdragon wrote:On March 29 2011 16:49 CubEdIn wrote:
HOWEVER, I'd like it if someone (preferably coag, since he's been dismissing this a lot) could explain to me why we are not even CONSIDERING the fact that Lemon could be the scum? He knew Coag had the gun so they could have used him against annul, just in case.
So I don't know, I see the reason why it's more likely that Tack is scum. I don't see why we are completely dismissing Lemon though. Mafia likely hit Annul, so why would they also redirect coag's bullet into him? Ugh....GGQ explains it. Mafia thought Coag had stun gun which would have disabled annul's bomb, making it safe to hit him. So they mind control Coag to "disable" bomb. What really happened was that Coag had a real gun and shot annul instead. Mafia didn't expect this. Pardon me if I'm misunderstanding, but Lemon knew that Coag had a KP gun, correct? If Lemon was mafia, they would know that Redirecting coag's shot to annul would result in a double hit on annul. Since there would be no reason to double stack annul, it is unlikely that Lemon is mafia. That's what I was trying to say in answer to CubEdIn.
oh ok got it. going to sleep then
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ok, fair enough, even though it does rely on a bit of wifom.
I'll go vote for tackster now.
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Alright let’s get started. Here is an analysis of BrownBear.
On March 25 2011 00:20 BrownBear wrote:It's POSSIBLE that bum is a 3rd-party and our blue team is retarded. Very very unlikely though. I see no reason to not vote for him at least for the time being. Although, probably not happening, but imagine this: bum is 3rd party. Blues counterclaim. another 3rd party CCs the blue's counterclaim (nah guys, bum's a blue, so am i!). Blues with another of theirs. So on and so forth. Mafia rofls. We lose pretty hard 
First game related post. BB is the first person to propose the multi person trade if a scum team put forward one of their members as a blue. This really isn’t that big of a deal at the time however this theory he created became a major point of contention later on in regards to exposing blues with the counter claims. Nothing much to see in this post so let’s move along.
On March 25 2011 00:58 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2011 00:29 Rean wrote:On March 25 2011 00:20 BrownBear wrote:It's POSSIBLE that bum is a 3rd-party and our blue team is retarded. Very very unlikely though. I see no reason to not vote for him at least for the time being. Although, probably not happening, but imagine this: bum is 3rd party. Blues counterclaim. another 3rd party CCs the blue's counterclaim (nah guys, bum's a blue, so am i!). Blues with another of theirs. So on and so forth. Mafia rofls. We lose pretty hard So on until it's 4-4, we give Mayor to someone else, lynch Bum and see what he flips as. Blue? Kill the 4 counterclaiming. Black? Kill the 3 defending him. At worst we trade Bum for the ENTIRE black party. Hell of a trade if you ask me. Technically, we trade all the blues, because mafia will then proceed to nightkill everyone who survives the madness. Still not a TERRIBLE trade, just not the best. RoL: You knew that already 
Oh here we go, back to the day one shitfest. In this post BB is just clarifying what he’s already said. No big deal although he’s operating under the assumption the town has no way to protect in the night (a similar argument Annul made). This is just a difference of opinions between him and I; even though it’s insane mafia I felt that it was safe to assume there would be roles that could protect people, turns out I’m right unless Kav is lying. The one interesting part of this post is that he doesn’t think it’s too bad trading all blues for blacks/reds. This is a philosophical mafia debate. How valuable are blue roles? In this game I’d argue we’re only really trading a glorified mason circle since everyone has a role of some sort. And as we’ve learned from GMarshal’s death there may be more than one mason circle (at least that’s what I got from the day post). So I’m philosophically in line with this post, I would trade the blue PM circle for the entire black team or a significant portion of the scum team. This was something that was argued pretty heavily day one so I won’t go through it any more.
On March 26 2011 03:47 BrownBear wrote:
This thread fucking exploded. Ugh. I'm trying to catch up.
As far as I can tell, nobody has counterclaimed bum, so I'm gonna throw my vote his direction unless either something drastic comes up or a better candidate comes forth.
Since BB has so few posts I hope you’ll humor me if I quote every single one. Just making the safe move here, with no counter claim Bum is the best bet.
On March 28 2011 02:59 BrownBear wrote:
Hahahaha, for a second I thought that Barundar had the power of being able to edit his posts.
Ok, so well done bum, I'm pretty sure that unless I missed something huge, there was no counter blue claim. I'm also reading through 50+ pages (was on a plane for most of yesterday), so cut me a little slack. I'll pick up the activity now that I'm home/out of midterms.
Currently, I'm looking at Jackal cause his name's come up a bunch. I'm also reading through Insanious - his posting gives me a very bad vibe.
Nope there wasn’t a counter claim so the Bum vote will stand. Now his suspects are interesting. I don’t remember having a read on insanious when this post was made however I do know I had a pretty good feel about Jackal. In fact a little more about Jackal real quick; he was one of my early town reads along with GMarshal. They were both playing similarly to how they had as town in the past so I felt pretty good about those reads. My only worry with Jackal was Coag’s quick read, as Coag has been confirmed (yes I’ll just use that word) town it doesn’t bother me anymore. GM subsequently died and flipped green like I thought and Jackal got into the IG shitfest. Since then his posts have always seemed slightly scummy to me and if I had to pick on my gut I’d say that Tack is town and Jackal is scum but GGQ’s logic is very good and in mafia you can’t play on whim. Anyway sorry for the tangent back to BB
On March 29 2011 05:45 BrownBear wrote:
Reading through the incredible derp-fest that is the after-Day-Post chatter. It's really hilarious.
Ok… you’re just adding to it at this point. Who do you suspect? Why? You’ve made several comments about how big the thread is and you have one post explaining inactivity. Do you still suspect Insanious and Jackal? I know it may seem hypocritical for myself to be calling you out when I myself did this a couple of times however I at least tried to give an opinion about what was going on. At the very least it gives fellow townies something to go off of and doesn’t leave them in the dark about you, hell it may even make them stop and think for a second. But you always just go “derp this thread is huge” and that’s it. You’ve gotta have an opinion man.
On March 29 2011 06:23 BrownBear wrote:Ok, I think I'm caught up somewhat. Let's see if I can piece this together: Last night a lot of insane shit happened. annul (who had ragequit earlier) was doublestacked, accepted fate. annul now needs to promise me he won't ragequit again if he wants to play in XXXVIII. Coag, you too, if you happen to read this. If either of you plays in XXXVIII and pulls this shit, you'll be permabanned from any games I host. Play the damn game to completion. GMarshal, who had a pretty solid role, got killed I'm curious what this "town kingdom" is - mason circle? With extra powers? Either way, it seems like the king is vulnerable now - I feel like GMarshal was the only BG. Finally, the clusterfuck around Coag's vigi shot that got shifted around somehow, and tnkted's Driver claim, which seems to make sense given how the DT check got fucked. That said, we also need to be aware of the fact that bum and tnkted could both be reds, our blues are idiots who didn't counterclaim, and we're already headed straight to hell in a handbasket. Ok, with all that known, let's look at the facts: Coag has gun, shoots at Tackster (mostly true? I can't find hard evidence why it would be...) Somehow Coag's shot moved to annul (true given above is also true. mind control?) Mafia/3rd party shoots annul (definitely true) Mafia shoots GM (true) Someone shoots kav (what?) Tnkted busses bum and LW (true) bum's DT checks LW, gets bum's alignment back (hopefully this is all true, because then it 100% confirms bum). Other shit? I can't tell... ANYWAY: I see no reason to doubt bum and tnkted (yet). Yes, they could both be red. I doubt it though, that would require a pretty huge gamble on mafia's part, IN ADDITION to town having retarded blues who didn't counterclaim. So what we have learned from last night is: bum is blue tnkted is (almost certainly) BD bum has access to a DT. Now, tnkted posts a list of scum with his claim post. He later redacts his claim on everyone on that list except jackal. However, problem: Jackal and Tackster are both in the item game, but only one of them is scum... At this point, I'm almost entirely convinced Tack is the scum, so tnkted's FOS on Jackal makes negative sense. This makes me doubt tnkted's claim just a little bit. However, tnkted's claim being false would cast suspicion on everything we've built up so far, in addition to being just plain crazy by mafia - they had no reason to throw another red out in the open and fakeclaim. If Tack wasn't red, they wouldn't care enough. If Tack was, it would be far easier for them to just bus him, have bum be extra-super confirmed, and just cruise for a while. So, now we're back to the IG. It isn't LYLO, because now we have a bus driver, in addition to medics! Black has no reason to shoot into the IG anymore. Red has 2 KP. So... tnkted busses one of the IG participants (probably Coag, seems most likely town), and we have another day. In fact... let's assume we lynch Tack, he flips town. tnkted busses a townie in the IG tonight, mafia hits both non-red players. One guy dies, the guy tnkted busses lives, we have confirmed town, lynch last mafia in item game, GG. So at this point, assuming we play it right, we have the item game in the bag. So, let's stop thinking about it so much. We're investing too much energy into a minigame with ONE scum in it. Let's look beyond. Start analyzing the non-IG scummy people. I know I plan to. I'm gonna look at Insanious later.
THANK YOU SO FUCKING MUCH! You just made a post of significance we can analyze :D. starts with threats to Annul and Coag for quitting (though Coag really wasn’t), as cohost of his game I strongly echo this . Talks about what’s happened so far, nothing earth shattering just a little summary which is fine since he’s about to offer something new. Interesting that he still brings up the possibility of tnkted or Bum being mafia, at this point it seems impossible since there has been no CC’s on either person and tnkted’s version of events seems perfectly legitimate. And as he points out, assuming tnkted is town then Bum just got DT confirmed.
Ok good let’s go over this big paragraph and everything that comes after that. He says I’m convinced Tack is scum so this means I’m suspicious of tnkted because he FoS’d Jackal. None of the rest of that paragraph matters, he’s just wildly WIFOMing on what the mafia may or may not be doing. Let’s go back over his claim. Jackal is by no means confirmed town (at this point in the game) so the fact that tnkted FoSing hims is suspicious is a little wtf. If I recall at this point I’m leaning more to Jackal being scum rather than Tack… and that reminds me, he says he’s almost entirely convinced Tack is scum… but why? He never offers any reasoning. Now I’m not going to draw any solid conclusions from this post, it’s basically bad townie play to FoS someone because they disagree with you on who is red. It’s just interesting to note that BB is certain Tack is scum but he offers no reasons and then FoS’s someone who disagrees with him on who is red.
Ok next paragraph. BB offers a very decent solution to the item game. Why didn’t anyone listen? I think I said something along the same lines as did several others but the IG people’s egos were to strong and they kept screaming away about a game that only can net us one scum and will lose us days of actual scum hunting. He and points out we’re spending too much time on it. Couldn’t agree more. Also promises an analysis of Insanious. Excellent!
This last part of the post made BB look a whole lot more town to me. He had some wtf reasoning going on and didn’t back up his statements in earlier parts of his post but the last thing the scum want is the town to shift focus off the item game. The longer we’re occupied with the IG the better for the scum teams to hide away in the obscurity of lurkerdom.
On March 29 2011 11:51 BrownBear wrote:tnkted: I agree with a lot of your post, I just don't agree with your scumlist. also, kita: can I count posts before you made that as quality posts? 
I left out a couple spammy posts talking about activity (again) and Coag rage quitting.
Ok this is a little out of the blue, he agrees with what points? And what scum list? For everyone’s viewing pleasure I’ve reposted it: Kav Rean Decon Jackal. This is not a bad scum list imo, what do you not like about it BB? We know now that Jackal is town but Kav Rean and Decon are all good suspects. Please make more contributive posts. This is what you did in your one big post; you made some statements but didn’t explain why
Well this is BB’s sad posting history. I’m actually leaning town. I started off fairly certain he was lurking scum but in the middle of analyzing the big post I realized that both scum groups want the IG to go on as long as possible. His posts consist of a lot of fluff which gave me almost nothing to analyze. I’d appreciate another big post from him but this time one that EXPLAINS why he holds his opinions.
So the final verdict is leaning town but if he was scum it would almost certainly be black. One thing to note: I’m still awaiting that insanious analysis BB said he was doing… speaking of insanious I’m going to add him to my list of suspects since several other people have voiced suspicions of him.
Oh and PS it’s two in the morning where I live so if there are random spelling errors forgive me it’s late.
PPS POST MOAR
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Sorry guys should have spoilerd that
Anyway on to Eii
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It's fucking impossible to stay active when I check in the afternoon and there's twenty more pages for me to read. I feel like just about all the bases have been covered on what happened last night, and I'm gonna ##vote trackster for now.
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Joining Tackster bandwagon for now, don't have any time to think about it to much thanks to internship
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Alright here’s Eii
On March 25 2011 10:36 Eiii wrote:
holy shit this game took off didn't it
now that I've spent about three hours reading the thread only to refresh it and the end and find like ten pages to read, taking pages and pages of notes I can finally say:
what the fuck are you guys doing
It seems like every single mafia game I play (that goes past day two >:|) gets completely sidetracked by some dumb argument that degrades from an argument into just yelling the same shit at each other over and over. Whether it's better to elect someone from the item game or better to NOT elect someone from the item game or elect bum is important, but I swear nothing has happened in the last five pages because annul can't stop yelling about math and everyone else is just saying the same thing over and over. This is obviously NOT GOOD for town.
Since I somehow only got called out twice despite never posting all day, I'll show where I stand:
Electing bum would be great, having a townie circle with mayor at the head would be ideal. It's crazy that people are throwing so much weight behind bum or against him at this point considering it would be insane for anyone-- red, blue, or black-- to counterclaim bum before they get their roles. How I vote will depend entirely on what happens day 1, and there's no doubt it my mind that something significant will happen regarding bum's candidacy.
Yeah no shit, I couldn’t believe how fast it went myself. Anyway the first point is completely true, the first day was a massive shitstorm (only to be topped by the second day though we did not know it). Eii is right; this is not good for the town. You did get called out for being inactive if I recall. Ok this is a pretty good post. He tells us that he wants a town mayor, that’s good. But beyond that he doesn’t say much, doesn’t give an opinion on whether Bum is town or not, in fact he doesn’t say much of anything. This is very solidly a “contributing without contributing post.”
On March 25 2011 10:39 Eiii wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2011 09:50 GMarshal wrote:
Silence it is clear we are SCUM for opposing annul.
quick let us retreat to our eiiiiiiiiivil lair where we will murder kittens, drown puppies and elect blues to rule the town /evil laugh
prerole breadcrumbing, scum imo Also, since I'm pretty much an expert on inactivity, here's a list of people who I don't think have any significant contribution to the game yet:
beneather
amber
kevconsim
Kenpachi
Keep an eye on these guys, please
<3 hypocrisy. If you’re such an expert than you should be able to avoid it.
On March 25 2011 10:50 Eiii wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2011 10:41 GMarshal wrote:On March 25 2011 10:39 Eiii wrote:On March 25 2011 09:50 GMarshal wrote:
Silence it is clear we are SCUM for opposing annul.
quick let us retreat to our eiiiiiiiiivil lair where we will murder kittens, drown puppies and elect blues to rule the town /evil laugh
prerole breadcrumbing, scum imo Also, since I'm pretty much an expert on inactivity, here's a list of people who I don't think have any significant contribution to the game yet:
beneather
amber
kevconsim
Kenpachi
Keep an eye on these guys, please Well since you are all caught up Eii, who would you kill off if you had to use a daykill right now? orgo or ilovejohn, add them to my list above by the way.
wut wut? So for reference these two posts were ten apart, he doesn’t take from anyone on his very recent list he just pulls two random dudes out of his hat and throws them on his list… lol? Why would you kill them?
On March 25 2011 10:52 Eiii wrote:
sweet :D
mine first please! hopefully now we can really get the game started and forget the last twenty pages ever happened.
Don’t make me quote that Annul spam quote again
On March 25 2011 11:50 Eiii wrote:
Oh fuck I forgot voting was going to be done in a separate thread.
Unless I'm way off about this:
IF YOU VOTE IN THE THREAD, MAKE A NOTE OF THE VOTE HERE AS WELL EXPLAINING YOUR REASONING
voting threads seem really dangerous to me, potentially letting people go completely under the radar while still influencing each day's lynch. We have to set a precedence that silently voting WITHOUT at least mentioning it in this thread is extremely suspicious.
I agree, this is a good idea. However the hypocrisy is getting a little rankling. And I almost feel like this falls under the category of contributing without contributing. Even scum can invent reasons to bandwagon vote, this is by no means a fool proof system.
On March 25 2011 13:01 Eiii wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2011 13:00 Kenpachi wrote:
If you havent caught on, im not serious about my mayor campaign. Im really tired atm and ill provide as much insight as possible tmrw I am absolutely 100% looking forward to it
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On March 25 2011 13:26 Eiii wrote:
bye bye all button :C
it’s post like this that got us here.
On March 26 2011 11:02 Eiii wrote:
Voting bum, nothing big has happened that has changed my mind on the subject.
But what was your reason in the first place? In a big thread it’s easy to get away with statements like this but when someone is looking at your posts one after the other it occurs to the watcher that you never gave a reason for voting Bum. What you’ve said so far is that your vote will depend entirely on what happens in the day… tell us what happened that made you vote Bum then.
On March 26 2011 11:08 Eiii wrote:
as well as brownbean, we need to keep a pretty close eye on beneather and kevconsim... both are 100% sheeping/lurking and have actually contributed nothing this game while just hopping on the bum bandwagon.
I feel like I might as well stop analyzing here. Hypocrisy and contributing without contributing. I don’t know which side you’re batting for Eii it’s not for the town.
On March 26 2011 16:56 Eiii wrote:Mostly just checking in here, but I really don't like the tackster lynch for now. I had him as a pretty green read, and I CANNOT BELIEVE MORE PEOPLE DIDN'T CALL JACKAL OUT ON THIS Show nested quote +On March 26 2011 11:38 Jackal58 wrote:On March 26 2011 11:36 Lanaia wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 26 2011 11:23 Jackal58 wrote:
Hola fellow townies. A fond fuck you to scum. I'm gonna do the same shit i did in XXXVII. I'm gonna start a shit storm of the absolute highest magnitude. I'm going to exceedingly piss off 3 IG players and I'm going to tell you guys to lay off three of them. But I'm not telling which 3 until tomorrow. And now I'm going to give town victory on day 1
#1 Bum lynch Tackster. Dunno if he's red or black but he is scum.
#2 I want medic protection over night.
#3 If Tackster flips black I will shoot the other scum. If I miss and hit green the remaining one will be tomorrows lynch.
#4 Item game players can stop me from shooting them but they will be lynched.
#5 Did I say I need medic protection for this to work? If we don't have a medic I'm hosed but town is still going to win.
#6 I will not announce scum #2 until tomorrow.
#7 Worse case scenario is we have 4 confirmed townies plus bums circle of 3
#8 Best case scenario is we have 5 confirmed townies plus bums circle
#9 That's 8 vs the world
#10 Bum's circle is cops. They should be able to add more townies faster than scum can kill us.
#11 Scum of either black or red persuasion will immediately try to kill all of us in the IM game. If I do manage to survive night 1 town has a kp at their disposal on night 2 and I will shoot whoever you vote for. Caveat - There are a few who shall remain nameless at this point that I will not shoot.
#12 I was going to wait until tomorrow to post this but I want bum and his team to have time to hash it all out. I am town. I can deliver at worst 2 out of 3 kills as scum or hopefully best case is 2 for 2.
#13 Town wins.
#14 Scum sucks.
#15 Stuff it noobs. I know what I'm doing.
#16. This is "Insane" Mafia remember!!!
It would be nine confirmed townies if you include bum himself, isn't it? Also, Jackal, why is Tackster scum? Consensus. I thought this was some kind of throwaway joke reply at first but the he started backing it up. Originally I was going to post another selection of quotes from him that I was gonna say made me question his previously-green status in my mind, but then I read over them and realized I was an idiot and missed the point of the posts entirely. I'm hovering around 80% sure jackal's town, but that doesn't mean we sheep after him all the time. If anyone in the item game should be lynched I think it should be darm, lemon and tack need more investigation.
This is choice. The first time he takes a stand it’s to defend someone who is almost certain red. Now I know, we can go back and see that around this time I thought Tack was town and Jackal was scum as well so I can’t go too hard on this post. Also lol at him starting his post saying OMG GAIS LOOK AT THIS TERRIBLE POST BY JACKAL but then lol at those “posts” that he claims he had which he was going to use to question Jackal’s towness but didn’t post because they didn’t prove what he wanted. When you do an analysis the goal should not be to prove but to ANALYZE. If you have analysis then post it. It may not turn out how you thought, see my analysis of BB, but if you can partially confirm someone via analysis then that’s a boon for the town. As I said I can’t go too hard on this post but it’s definitely still worth noting.
On March 27 2011 01:41 Eiii wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2011 00:51 Insanious wrote:
So... Jackal you do realize YOU and darmousseh are the ONLY players in the item game that have NOT shown that they know what the town alignment PM is...
So basically YOU and darmousseh DID NOT GET ONE. er, jackal (despite not finding any hints) passed the prove-you're-town-by-posting-your-alignment-PM with pretty much flying colors as far as I'm concerned.
What the fuck? I mean seriously what is this post supposed to even mean?
On March 27 2011 01:41 Eiii wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2011 01:26 tnkted wrote:
And please stop calling me twinkle toes, I really have no idea where you are getting that nickname and its fairly condescending. you have doomed yourself
the only reason I’m posting this is to illustrate the spam
On March 27 2011 10:37 Eiii wrote:
Just checking in to make sure I don't need to change my vote. I also assumed that item game players would just be vanilla townies that could use items, I feel like that was pretty clear :/
lesson: make zero assumptions!
Read the OP maybe?
On March 27 2011 17:14 Eiii wrote:Show nested quote +On March 27 2011 00:40 Amber[LighT] wrote:On March 26 2011 16:56 Eiii wrote:Mostly just checking in here, but I really don't like the tackster lynch for now. I had him as a pretty green read, and I CANNOT BELIEVE MORE PEOPLE DIDN'T CALL JACKAL OUT ON THIS On March 26 2011 11:38 Jackal58 wrote:On March 26 2011 11:36 Lanaia wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On March 26 2011 11:23 Jackal58 wrote:
Hola fellow townies. A fond fuck you to scum. I'm gonna do the same shit i did in XXXVII. I'm gonna start a shit storm of the absolute highest magnitude. I'm going to exceedingly piss off 3 IG players and I'm going to tell you guys to lay off three of them. But I'm not telling which 3 until tomorrow. And now I'm going to give town victory on day 1
#1 Bum lynch Tackster. Dunno if he's red or black but he is scum.
#2 I want medic protection over night.
#3 If Tackster flips black I will shoot the other scum. If I miss and hit green the remaining one will be tomorrows lynch.
#4 Item game players can stop me from shooting them but they will be lynched.
#5 Did I say I need medic protection for this to work? If we don't have a medic I'm hosed but town is still going to win.
#6 I will not announce scum #2 until tomorrow.
#7 Worse case scenario is we have 4 confirmed townies plus bums circle of 3
#8 Best case scenario is we have 5 confirmed townies plus bums circle
#9 That's 8 vs the world
#10 Bum's circle is cops. They should be able to add more townies faster than scum can kill us.
#11 Scum of either black or red persuasion will immediately try to kill all of us in the IM game. If I do manage to survive night 1 town has a kp at their disposal on night 2 and I will shoot whoever you vote for. Caveat - There are a few who shall remain nameless at this point that I will not shoot.
#12 I was going to wait until tomorrow to post this but I want bum and his team to have time to hash it all out. I am town. I can deliver at worst 2 out of 3 kills as scum or hopefully best case is 2 for 2.
#13 Town wins.
#14 Scum sucks.
#15 Stuff it noobs. I know what I'm doing.
#16. This is "Insane" Mafia remember!!!
It would be nine confirmed townies if you include bum himself, isn't it? Also, Jackal, why is Tackster scum? Consensus. I thought this was some kind of throwaway joke reply at first but the he started backing it up. Originally I was going to post another selection of quotes from him that I was gonna say made me question his previously-green status in my mind, but then I read over them and realized I was an idiot and missed the point of the posts entirely. I'm hovering around 80% sure jackal's town, but that doesn't mean we sheep after him all the time. If anyone in the item game should be lynched I think it should be darm, lemon and tack need more investigation. That's definitely not the case. As of right now he's given us good direction for the first day and it's not worth discounting him because of things like "I'm hovering around 80% sure jackal's town..." I'm just catching up now but want to point out what I meant was lost here-- I meant DESPITE the fact that I felt (and probably others felt) jackal was town we shouldn't just go along with his plans when he doesn't offer anything to back them up, which he was doing quite a bit at the time. Obviously this pretty much goes without saying all the time but I wanted to show support for jackal without agreeing with his seemingly-arbitrary 'x is scum' statements.
I’m just catching up now… how many times have we heard that? Seriously people, let’s not post until we know absolutely what the hell is going on. Woa! You thought Jackal was town. I guess you did but reading your other post sort of made it sound like you wanted to have it both ways. It sounded like you thought Jackal was actually scum, made an “analysis” and realized it didn’t prove your point. I’m actually not sure what the fuck this post is saying; he’s voicing his support for Jackal but not his plan? How does that even work? I’d say this is an excellent example of contributing without contributing.
On March 27 2011 18:17 Eiii wrote:
ahahahahah this is the most hilarious game of mafia ever played
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On March 28 2011 08:05 Eiii wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2011 06:32 deconduo wrote:On March 28 2011 06:21 iGrok wrote:
10. Eiii - A couple really good posts, not much more than that. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt for now.
30. Eiii - I think I remember one post, and he put alot of thought into it? I DONT REMEMBER EXACTLY. YOU ANALYZE IT.
? I'm just that important. ironically enough I'll become more active once I get back to school.
What’s ironic about the embedded quote is that I never found anything remotely resembling a good post in Eii’s history. He once again makes excuses about activity.
On March 28 2011 10:07 Eiii wrote:I don't know about the items being RNG'd Show nested quote +On March 27 2011 15:34 annul wrote:
okay.
my item is hot potato. 25% chance to blow up myself and anyone visiting me at night.
i have the option to detonate it early, killing myself and any night visitors.
since night vig probably resolves before the end of night, you're probably safe. but if not, then congratulations, you are dead.
incoming all item game PMs. This seems like an item that would only be even remotely useful on a green, I could see the items being distributed by alignment with something like this in the pool.
Really worthless post here, just speculation about how the items were distributed, if it’s that big of a deal ask LSB. And LSB answers in two posts saying they were RNG’d thus rendering this whole post worthless.
On March 28 2011 13:31 Eiii wrote:
Aww, I'm on a scumlist now? :/ I eagerly await your reasons then, kav.
Quick question: If the whole IG plan was to bait the scum player into stealing jackal's items, why did jackal just let it get stolen instead of protecting it? That's the one thing that I'm confused by in this whole affair.
Mhmmm this is a point in Kav’s favor if you’re on his scum list. You’d be on anyone’s scum list who isn’t obsessed with the IG. His question is legitimate but at this point that doesn’t make him town at all, he could just be scum trying to figure the reasoning behind what was going on.
In fact that’s my final verdict here. Eiii is scum. He shows classic examples of CWC, spams the thread, and is generally incoherent in a way that fully suggests scum to me. I’m not sure which faction and I’m not certain enough to include a picture of professor awesome, but right now I’d be happy with lynching Eiii once the IG gets cleared up (although who knows when that’ll happen ).
Alright I'm pushing three am and I have class tomorrow. I'm tired and my analysis is probably going to go down hill from here (if it hasn't already started ). Tomorrow I'll hit the rest of my list when I get the chance. Amber your next.
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wow I abuse the face. Anyway goodnight guys, PLZ don't spam so much tomorrow. Oh and Tackster, after reading through the thread so much tonight I'm gonna vote you. It's logical and there really isn't a viable alternative theory. I'm gonna have to hand it to you for a phenomenal scum game though.
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1. Tack is town
2. Lemon is Maf
3. Kav is Black
I've explained 1+2 to the best of my ability, but unfortunately TL townies just sheep whoever shouts loudest. Once again there is NO CASE against Tack that doesn't apply to any of the other item game players bar Coag. But hey, don't let that stop you.
3 is kinda cool. Kav is black and got hit last night. As he didn't know whether it was maf or town that hit him, he claimed vet to stop any suspicion towards him. He made a fatal error however, vets work a little differently in this game:
Original Message From kitaman27:
You are the Veteran! You have one extra night life! By one extra night life I mean if you die you get ressed as a zombie
I can't convince you not to lynch Tack today it seems, so we are doomed to lose the item game. At least when he flips town it clears me and you can lynch kav though.
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Just saw this post and I'm qouting it so we can have multiple analyses on one page. Nice job btw Kav, you're looking green to me and while I'll be taking a check over kenpachi myself the analysis you did looks pretty good (although everyone keep in mind that this is pretty typical kenpachi :/).
+ Show Spoiler +On March 29 2011 17:08 Kavdragon wrote:The lynch on tackster appears to be pretty set. If he flips scum, I've already analysed Insanious, and he is likely also scum. However, there's a chance that I'll get knocked off soon, if the attempt on my life is anything to go by, and I want to get out this stuff sooner than later. Show nested quote +On March 26 2011 07:47 Kenpachi wrote:.. and i still retain my title of never being rightbut im persistent. IM COMING FOR YOU GROKKEN No townie go out of his way to point out that he is always wrong. The only thing that something like this could serve to do, is make people ignore their opinions. The only people who want this are scum. Kenpachi is scumIn his first (and only) analysis, he concludes that iGrok is scum because of a number of spam posts. After posting replies to comments on his analysis he starts doing the very thing that he based his accusation off of: Spam: Note: These posts were made one after the other. I didn’t edit out any posts in-between them. Show nested quote +On March 28 2011 06:34 Kenpachi wrote:
Im coming for you iGrok
but im busy today so ill be back at the night post Why post this if you aren’t going to add anything? Show nested quote +On March 28 2011 11:02 Kenpachi wrote:On March 28 2011 11:02 LSB wrote:
Give me a few more secs, finding your pics is hard ;_; Show nested quote +On March 28 2011 11:37 Kenpachi wrote:On March 28 2011 11:36 Coagulation wrote:
BUM HOW BOUT YOU ANSWER THE QUESTION.
IM NOT GONNA SIT HERE AND TWIDDLE MY THUMBS WHILE YOUR RUNNING AROUND ACTING LIKE I DIDNT SHOOT TACK LAST NIGHT
WE NEED TO GET THE STORY STRAIGHT NOW. C-C-C-Chaos. Im all excited! He’s called someone out for being scummy because of spam, yet he spams. This clearly shows that he doesn’t hold strong convictions about spam being scummy. No townie would make an analysis based on a conviction they don’t hold. Only scum would do something like this to make it look like they are contributing. Kenpachi is scumShow nested quote +On March 29 2011 06:29 Kenpachi wrote:
im always around to be analyzed. faithful bodybag Kenpachi
but seriously you guys completely lost me when i was reading the last 20 pages. I think Kavdragon has the most data piled up on him but really, im lost.
Tackster is accused. Something happens and LW is actually the real culprit
no wait Jackal. nono its kav.. fuck you guys its GGQ or Kenpachi. no dude its Tackster/LW/Jackal/Kav.
imo, lets just kill Kav because hes not an IG player and everyone is just so fussed up about mylo on IG players Scum hit me last night, and it didn’t work. Scum will try to kill me again. This obviously didn’t go very far, but there’s no way in liquidia that a townie posted this sort of crap. "I'm confused, but let's just kill kav, kk?" There is no way that a townie would see more red on my name than on Tacksters name. There is no way that Kenpachi is a townie. Kenpachi is scumTo borrow the line that you borrowed from Ser Aspi Ver, I'm coming for you, kenpachi.
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On March 29 2011 18:57 deconduo wrote:1. Tack is town 2. Lemon is Maf 3. Kav is Black I've explained 1+2 to the best of my ability, but unfortunately TL townies just sheep whoever shouts loudest. Once again there is NO CASE against Tack that doesn't apply to any of the other item game players bar Coag. But hey, don't let that stop you. 3 is kinda cool. Kav is black and got hit last night. As he didn't know whether it was maf or town that hit him, he claimed vet to stop any suspicion towards him. He made a fatal error however, vets work a little differently in this game: Show nested quote +Original Message From kitaman27:
You are the Veteran! You have one extra night life! By one extra night life I mean if you die you get ressed as a zombie I can't convince you not to lynch Tack today it seems, so we are doomed to lose the item game. At least when he flips town it clears me and you can lynch kav though.
Kav, care to comment on this?
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On March 29 2011 18:57 deconduo wrote:1. Tack is town 2. Lemon is Maf 3. Kav is Black I've explained 1+2 to the best of my ability, but unfortunately TL townies just sheep whoever shouts loudest. Once again there is NO CASE against Tack that doesn't apply to any of the other item game players bar Coag. But hey, don't let that stop you. 3 is kinda cool. Kav is black and got hit last night. As he didn't know whether it was maf or town that hit him, he claimed vet to stop any suspicion towards him. He made a fatal error however, vets work a little differently in this game: Show nested quote +Original Message From kitaman27:
You are the Veteran! You have one extra night life! By one extra night life I mean if you die you get ressed as a zombie I can't convince you not to lynch Tack today it seems, so we are doomed to lose the item game. At least when he flips town it clears me and you can lynch kav though.
Well fuck this changes things, Kenpachi may still be a red that the Blacks found somehow and want lynched... in fact this may make the case stronger. But I withdraw my green call on Kav, wanna hear more from decon
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@Decon: we're not going to lose the IG as long as we have Bus Driver. He'll just take Jackal away. EZ PZ.
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On March 29 2011 19:42 CubEdIn wrote:
@Decon: we're not going to lose the IG as long as we have Bus Driver. He'll just take Jackal away. EZ PZ.
Unless the driver gets mindcontrolled?
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On March 29 2011 19:05 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 18:57 deconduo wrote:1. Tack is town 2. Lemon is Maf 3. Kav is Black I've explained 1+2 to the best of my ability, but unfortunately TL townies just sheep whoever shouts loudest. Once again there is NO CASE against Tack that doesn't apply to any of the other item game players bar Coag. But hey, don't let that stop you. 3 is kinda cool. Kav is black and got hit last night. As he didn't know whether it was maf or town that hit him, he claimed vet to stop any suspicion towards him. He made a fatal error however, vets work a little differently in this game: Original Message From kitaman27:
You are the Veteran! You have one extra night life! By one extra night life I mean if you die you get ressed as a zombie I can't convince you not to lynch Tack today it seems, so we are doomed to lose the item game. At least when he flips town it clears me and you can lynch kav though. Well fuck this changes things, Kenpachi may still be a red that the Blacks found somehow and want lynched... in fact this may make the case stronger. But I withdraw my green call on Kav, wanna hear more from decon
What do you want to hear?
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On March 29 2011 20:11 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 29 2011 19:42 CubEdIn wrote:
@Decon: we're not going to lose the IG as long as we have Bus Driver. He'll just take Jackal away. EZ PZ. Unless the driver gets mindcontrolled?
We have blues as well, who can protect Coag!
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