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On December 18 2012 12:09 Djodref wrote:
@ Hapa
I hope that you are going to include jay in your scumteam.
The association with VE is quite obvious. Moreover, mafia should had been able to push his lynch over adam lynch D1 if he was town.
If jay is such a mislynch bait, why would VE go after z bo ?
When he could have been consistent and get a mislynch on jay.
Jay is scum.
GG
You could also wifom that he did that to throw false leads.
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On December 18 2012 12:09 Djodref wrote:
@ Hapa
I hope that you are going to include jay in your scumteam.
The association with VE is quite obvious. Moreover, mafia should had been able to push his lynch over adam lynch D1 if he was town.
If jay is such a mislynch bait, why would VE go after z bo ?
When he could have been consistent and get a mislynch on jay.
Jay is scum.
GG
Most likely. Jay was pushing scum objectives pretty hard, but I have to be sure that he's not a stupid townie. It's kinda similar to you really - you were seemingly pushing mafia objectives pretty hard on the D1 lynch, but I'm pretty convinced you're town on your behavior.
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And we need to be pretty careful about drawing a connection from VE to Z-Bo. I don't want to know how many layers of wifom VE went down with that push.
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On December 18 2012 12:35 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 12:09 Djodref wrote:
@ Hapa
I hope that you are going to include jay in your scumteam.
The association with VE is quite obvious. Moreover, mafia should had been able to push his lynch over adam lynch D1 if he was town.
If jay is such a mislynch bait, why would VE go after z bo ?
When he could have been consistent and get a mislynch on jay.
Jay is scum.
GG Most likely. Jay was pushing scum objectives pretty hard, but I have to be sure that he's not a stupid townie. It's kinda similar to you really - you were seemingly pushing mafia objectives pretty hard on the D1 lynch, but I'm pretty convinced you're town on your behavior.
How could he not doubt VE ?
VE claimed a green check on me.
I was supposed to be his mega top scumread. Please also note how he failed to push my lynch today. I didn't see his frustration when I managed to talk my way out of the lynch. He was lacking of convinction.
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On December 18 2012 12:43 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2012 12:35 Hapahauli wrote:On December 18 2012 12:09 Djodref wrote:
@ Hapa
I hope that you are going to include jay in your scumteam.
The association with VE is quite obvious. Moreover, mafia should had been able to push his lynch over adam lynch D1 if he was town.
If jay is such a mislynch bait, why would VE go after z bo ?
When he could have been consistent and get a mislynch on jay.
Jay is scum.
GG Most likely. Jay was pushing scum objectives pretty hard, but I have to be sure that he's not a stupid townie. It's kinda similar to you really - you were seemingly pushing mafia objectives pretty hard on the D1 lynch, but I'm pretty convinced you're town on your behavior. How could he not doubt VE ? VE claimed a green check on me. I was supposed to be his mega top scumread. Please also note how he failed to push my lynch today. I didn't see his frustration when I managed to talk my way out of the lynch. He was lacking of convinction.
Well new players can be pretty stupid sometimes. (See people trusting Dandel Ion's roleblocker claim)
Failure to push your lynch is pretty good. Jay doesn't appear to have any activity excuses and it's probably best to take his actions (and inaction) at face value.
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@ jay
I also need your cases for your current scum reads.
I would like also to know if your stance on me has changed since the flip.
Your latest scum reads are Vivax, marv and Z-Bo. Good luck for your cases !
@ Hapa
jay is not a new player here.
Did you see the reasoning he gave for his absolute confidence in a town VE ?
This is such far fetched, weird, totally made-up reasoning.
Here is the natural town reaction.
Someone claims Cop without breadcrumbs and stuff when he is about to get lynched, giving a green check on your top scumread. You just lynch this guy. Especially if Palmar wanted to lynch him before as well.
Anyway, jay's filter is pretty scummy on itself, so... The easiest answer is that he is scum.
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On December 18 2012 13:08 Djodref wrote:
@ jay
I also need your cases for your current scum reads.
I would like also to know if your stance on me has changed since the flip.
Your latest scum reads are Vivax, marv and Z-Bo. Good luck for your cases !
@ Hapa
jay is not a new player here.
Did you see the reasoning he gave for his absolute confidence in a town VE ?
This is such far fetched, weird, totally made-up reasoning.
Here is the natural town reaction.
Someone claims Cop without breadcrumbs and stuff when he is about to get lynched, giving a green check on your top scumread. You just lynch this guy. Especially if Palmar wanted to lynch him before as well.
Anyway, jay's filter is pretty scummy on itself, so... The easiest answer is that he is scum.
Yeah I'm agreeing with ya on jay dawg. See last post.
And I'm saying jay = "new" in the sense that he's a pretty easy mislynch if he's town. His behavior and actions point otherwise though.
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Ebwop: simplest
@Hapa, nvm, I'll let you work in total independence. Just find us some scum ^^
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On December 18 2012 07:56 VisceraEyes wrote:
PRE-tldr for VIVAX
ZBoson
jaybrundage
Hapahauli
grush
Bluelightz
thrawn
Vivax
marv
Djodref
I just rediscovered this post. I hope this is not some massive WIFOM bomb planned by VE, but the interaction between VE and Jay makes absolutely no sense with this list.
VE was super-cordial with Jay's attempts to save him. Jay is far too trusting of a guy who was trying to get him lynched.
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now you start to understand
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Z-Boson. Probably not scum due to VE pushing him for most of the last few days.
The one reservation I have with Jay is Adam and VE pushing him for most of D1. However, Day 1 starts to make a hell of a lot more sense (bussing wise) if two scum candidates were up for lynching.
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This leaves marv, thrawn, g-rush, and bluelightz.
Lynch marv at lylo. Otherwise, seems townie.
Still strongly reading thrawn's "gambit" as some stupid townie thing.
G-rush I read as town.
Bluelightz I read as lazy scum #4
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There's vivax too, but he's too attention-whorey to be scum.
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Yeah, basically it's GG
like lynch jay, lynch BL, Lynch Hapa
or like lynch jay, lynch Hapa, lynch Bl
time to concede
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On December 18 2012 11:09 Djodref wrote:
@ jay
Riddle my this.
You like to sheep Palmar. This guy told us to lynch VE and me.
Today, you were definitively convinced that I was scum. But you soft-defended VE.
Then you are suddenly certain that VE lynch is a mislynch. I still don't understand why. The lynch was supposedly to easy.
What I don't understand is that when someone claim cop without breadcrumb and stuff and gives a green check on your top scumread, you just believe him.
I would expect town jay to have VE and me pinned as mafia at this point.
I'm just misunderstood : /
Often times its hard to follow my train of thought. But bear with me i tried to give my reasoning.
In this post.
On December 18 2012 10:16 jaybrundage wrote:
hmm im trying to think where my logic went wrong. I think part of it was not really being here for the Tunkeg lynch and that didn't go well at all. So i assumed that cause you guys didnt have my vote and he already was going to b lynched that it was a mislynch. But regardless i fucked up.
It would seem obvious that I would be the next lynch candidate. Hell I would vote me. I got one hell of a job ahead of me getting out of this : /
Also I was under the assumption that scum wouldnt vote for VE as you guys may not of pushed it hard enough. But obvious a scum was bussing VE, So my math was off.
I had wrongly placed conviction, but what can ya do.
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@ jay
Please try to explain your first logic in details. The math thing. I don't get it at all.
Anyway, if you are town, which I doubt. You should better spend all your time finding the remaining scum.
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Also I would like to know your current stance on me ?
Did I bus VE or not ?
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On December 18 2012 20:32 Bluelightz wrote:
Yes!
Hello BL !
Would you like to lynch jay tomorrow ?
Who do you think are the remaining scum players ?
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EPT
