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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 13 2013 02:38 GMT
#221
On January 13 2013 11:34 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 11:24 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 13 2013 11:16 thrawn2112 wrote:
my thoughts on the grush/hopeless thing have almost been reset to null for the following reason:

-the reasoning hopeless gave for thinking grush is scum is pretty close to my own reasoning. if I HAD to pick out one of them as scum right now, it'd probably be hopeless


Hopeless really never explained his reasoning about Grush though. So you think/thought Grush is/was scum for gut-feeling or something?

So why would you pick Hopeless as scum? You voted him earlier, but you also changed your mind about it.


I wouldn't pick hopeless as scum, unless it was out of the two of them. Hopeless just came away from the situation more scummy than grush. My "grush is scum imo" post was not all that serious but was based on me noticing an apparent difference in how grush is playing now than how he plays is town. The only problem is that it's actually a somewhat more townie way to play, lol.
...


Why did Hopeless come away more scummy from things?

Also, is Hopeless your top scumread at this stage?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 13 2013 02:43 GMT
#222
On January 13 2013 11:36 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 11:30 Xatalos wrote:
On January 13 2013 11:16 thrawn2112 wrote:
my thoughts on the grush/hopeless thing have almost been reset to null for the following reason:

-the reasoning hopeless gave for thinking grush is scum is pretty close to my own reasoning. if I HAD to pick out one of them as scum right now, it'd probably be hopeless

##unvote

Apart from a few specifics in the ongoing grush/hopeless stuff, by biggest concern so far is super.

A lot of his accusations and scumhunting techniques seemed fake/ineffective and he was obsessing over things that do not matter at all. He never actually came to any conclusions based on his questioning, and he seemed to disappear from the thread as activity was starting to pick up.


What are you saying? You agree with hopeless so he's more scummy than grush whom you think is scummy with the same reasons as hopeless?

Yeah, supersoft's focus on a single smilie was very overdone. But I think he looked pretty convinced about the matter. Why was it fake? Maybe he just wanted to pressure and get a reaction?


xatalos do you actually have opinions about any of this or are you just going to ask random questions?


Just trying to make sense of your post. I didn't get the point you were making in your chain of logic about hopeless being scum over grush.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
January 13 2013 02:44 GMT
#223
On January 13 2013 11:32 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 11:25 MrZentor wrote:
On January 13 2013 11:21 Xatalos wrote:
On January 13 2013 11:15 MrZentor wrote:
On January 13 2013 11:13 Xatalos wrote:
On January 13 2013 11:09 MrZentor wrote:
On January 13 2013 11:00 Hapahauli wrote:
WELP. On his behavior so far, Jay does seem rather townie.

Anyway MrZ, talk to me about Ruuch a bit. You have your vote on him, and he did respond to it some. Do you make anything one way or the other of his recent posting?


I'm leaning townie on him, but it's a pretty weak read.

And I suppose my vote served its purpose.

##Unvote


Do you think he 's playing similarly to British Mafia? I think there are some things in his filter that game (aggression, spamminess) that are similar, but it's far too early to say that. It's just a couple of pages so far. Also, it's not hard to spam a bit with useless posts like random voting (...) to emulate your town game. If you wanted to define fluff, that would be it.


No, he's definitely not playing like he was in British Mafia.

My posts have a lot more content than yours, and that vote wasn't random. Are you familiar with the idea of putting pressure on somebody to gauge their response and get a better read on them?


I was talking about Jay in the last sentence. What's the biggest difference between his game now and then?


What? You switched from referring to Jay as "he" to "you"?

He seems a bit more confident this game than last.


"You" as in you = one (you can see a great view from here / one can see a great view from here).

Hmmm. So he's less careful than in his previous game (as town) and that's the basis of your confident town read?


You didn't ask me what the basis of my town read is.

You asked the difference between Jay's play this game and last.


Yeah, but it's related. You saw Jay as townie last game and now you're at least equally convinced. I'm guessing more confident = more townish = very townish in your mind?


No, his change in play hasn't really affected my read on him.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2013 02:45 GMT
#224
hopeless comes away more scummy because if I look at each player objectively, without meta, and not thinking about them omgusing each other, hopeless is scummier. meta is a dumb reason to have a strong opinion on who to lynch, and hopeless actually seemed completely serious about wanting to lynch grush. his "wrong answer" post was strange as you've pointed out and "what would be the right answer" was the same question I thought about as soon as I read hopeless's post. no, he's not my top read. that title probably goes to xatalos/super. as I said, my thoughts on grush/hope have somewhat been reset back to null.

fml if this is to be yet another incarnation of thrawn and hapa spamming at each other
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 13 2013 02:49 GMT
#225
On January 13 2013 11:45 thrawn2112 wrote:
hopeless comes away more scummy because if I look at each player objectively, without meta, and not thinking about them omgusing each other, hopeless is scummier. meta is a dumb reason to have a strong opinion on who to lynch, and hopeless actually seemed completely serious about wanting to lynch grush. his "wrong answer" post was strange as you've pointed out and "what would be the right answer" was the same question I thought about as soon as I read hopeless's post. no, he's not my top read. that title probably goes to xatalos/super. as I said, my thoughts on grush/hope have somewhat been reset back to null.

fml if this is to be yet another incarnation of thrawn and hapa spamming at each other


Why am I now one of your top reads? Because I questioned about your reasoning?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 13 2013 02:51 GMT
#226
On January 13 2013 11:45 thrawn2112 wrote:
hopeless comes away more scummy because if I look at each player objectively, without meta, and not thinking about them omgusing each other, hopeless is scummier. meta is a dumb reason to have a strong opinion on who to lynch, and hopeless actually seemed completely serious about wanting to lynch grush. his "wrong answer" post was strange as you've pointed out and "what would be the right answer" was the same question I thought about as soon as I read hopeless's post. no, he's not my top read. that title probably goes to xatalos/super. as I said, my thoughts on grush/hope have somewhat been reset back to null.


Regarding the bolded, if you were more concerned about Xatalos and Super, why would you feel obligated to "pick a side" on the Hopeless/Grush thing?

On January 13 2013 11:16 thrawn2112 wrote:
...
-the reasoning hopeless gave for thinking grush is scum is pretty close to my own reasoning. if I HAD to pick out one of them as scum right now, it'd probably be hopeless


It reads as really forced. If you're leaning null on them, why would you even bring something like this up?



fml if this is to be yet another incarnation of thrawn and hapa spamming at each other


As always as always.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2013 02:54 GMT
#227
the reasons I think xatalos could be scum

he's defending kush.... scum do that a lot
he's pushing jay.....scum do that a lot
he's participating in a lot of discussion that isn't related to scumhunting, it looks like he's arguing for the sake of arguing
i don't detect real suspicion in any of his posts

he's spending way too much time defending people and I don't think he's actually suspicious of anything
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2013 02:55 GMT
#228
On January 13 2013 11:51 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 11:45 thrawn2112 wrote:
hopeless comes away more scummy because if I look at each player objectively, without meta, and not thinking about them omgusing each other, hopeless is scummier. meta is a dumb reason to have a strong opinion on who to lynch, and hopeless actually seemed completely serious about wanting to lynch grush. his "wrong answer" post was strange as you've pointed out and "what would be the right answer" was the same question I thought about as soon as I read hopeless's post. no, he's not my top read. that title probably goes to xatalos/super. as I said, my thoughts on grush/hope have somewhat been reset back to null.


Regarding the bolded, if you were more concerned about Xatalos and Super, why would you feel obligated to "pick a side" on the Hopeless/Grush thing?


because my thoughts on xatalos and super came after my thoughts on grush/hopeless lol

On January 13 2013 11:51 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 11:16 thrawn2112 wrote:
...
-the reasoning hopeless gave for thinking grush is scum is pretty close to my own reasoning. if I HAD to pick out one of them as scum right now, it'd probably be hopeless


It reads as really forced. If you're leaning null on them, why would you even bring something like this up?


because you asked? o.0
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 13 2013 02:56 GMT
#229
On January 13 2013 11:55 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 11:51 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 13 2013 11:45 thrawn2112 wrote:
hopeless comes away more scummy because if I look at each player objectively, without meta, and not thinking about them omgusing each other, hopeless is scummier. meta is a dumb reason to have a strong opinion on who to lynch, and hopeless actually seemed completely serious about wanting to lynch grush. his "wrong answer" post was strange as you've pointed out and "what would be the right answer" was the same question I thought about as soon as I read hopeless's post. no, he's not my top read. that title probably goes to xatalos/super. as I said, my thoughts on grush/hope have somewhat been reset back to null.


Regarding the bolded, if you were more concerned about Xatalos and Super, why would you feel obligated to "pick a side" on the Hopeless/Grush thing?


because my thoughts on xatalos and super came after my thoughts on grush/hopeless lol

Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 11:51 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 13 2013 11:16 thrawn2112 wrote:
...
-the reasoning hopeless gave for thinking grush is scum is pretty close to my own reasoning. if I HAD to pick out one of them as scum right now, it'd probably be hopeless


It reads as really forced. If you're leaning null on them, why would you even bring something like this up?


because you asked? o.0


Oh did I? Well shit >>
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 13 2013 02:59 GMT
#230
Oh wait no I didn't. I asked you to explain your voting shenanigans, but you did the whole "If i HAD to pick one" thing of your own volition.

Anywho, that's an interesting bit on Xatalos you have there. Reading through his filter.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 13 2013 03:00 GMT
#231
On January 13 2013 09:40 MrZentor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 09:37 grush57 wrote:
MR ZENTOR

On January 13 2013 09:09 grush57 wrote:
On January 13 2013 09:07 MrZentor wrote:
Super, Jay is town. -.-


How do you know he is town?



I can read Jay well.

We're cousins.


i don't buy it. You're scum.

On January 13 2013 09:55 thrawn2112 wrote:
grush is scum imo


worst read ever.

I'll vote Zentor though.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 13 2013 03:01 GMT
#232
On January 13 2013 11:54 thrawn2112 wrote:
the reasons I think xatalos could be scum

he's defending kush.... scum do that a lot
he's pushing jay.....scum do that a lot
he's participating in a lot of discussion that isn't related to scumhunting, it looks like he's arguing for the sake of arguing
i don't detect real suspicion in any of his posts

he's spending way too much time defending people and I don't think he's actually suspicious of anything


Well, take a look at my previous game. I was lynched because I couldn't get a solid scumread on anyone. I'm definitely trying my best, but it's this early. If I had to lynch someone at this spot, it would be Jay.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
January 13 2013 03:02 GMT
#233
hollly shit hapa i really dislike your back and forth questioning style. It spams a lot and it makes it really hard to read closely and look at filters. It also makes it hard to read the game closely.
I have really bad reading comprehension (sparknotes through education ftw) so it's extra hard for me.
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MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
January 13 2013 03:02 GMT
#234
Hiya supersoft, how can I prove Jay and I are cousins?

And why am I scum?
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2013 03:03 GMT
#235
super why is zentor scum? red font is easy i can do it too

can you explain that read on zentor without quoting what he said about jay?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
January 13 2013 03:09 GMT
#236
why are you buddying zentor? He's scum. read his filter. He slipped so badly i dont even have to quote it.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 13 2013 03:12 GMT
#237
@ Thrawn

Regarding Xata, he just seems to be questioning posts that he doesn't understand. I can't draw anything meaningful from his filter yet. He also got mislynched in Witchcraft for being wishy-washy and talking in generalities, so I have some hesitancy when it comes to him.

@ Kush
On January 13 2013 12:02 kushm4sta wrote:
hollly shit hapa i really dislike your back and forth questioning style. It spams a lot and it makes it really hard to read closely and look at filters. It also makes it hard to read the game closely.
I have really bad reading comprehension (sparknotes through education ftw) so it's extra hard for me.


Useless comment is useless.

The last time you were useless in the early-game, you were scum in WItchcraft.
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MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
January 13 2013 03:13 GMT
#238
This should be interesting...

For those of us not nearly as clever as you, can you quote where and how I scumslipped, Supersoft?

Even though usually scum don't "scumslip".

Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 13 2013 03:14 GMT
#239
Do quote the scumslip supersoft, because I don't see it. MrZ's current play is pretty much dead-on with his town meta right now.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2013 03:15 GMT
#240
On January 13 2013 12:09 supersoft wrote:
why are you buddying zentor? He's scum. read his filter. He slipped so badly i dont even have to quote it.


idc about zentor atm, it's you

you've yet to talk about something that is actually constructive and not dumb or irrelevant.

can you actually convince me that you think zentor is scum? take me on a tour of his filter plz
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
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