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grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 13 2013 01:30 GMT
#181
ffs
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
January 13 2013 01:30 GMT
#182
On January 13 2013 10:22 Hapahauli wrote:
Woah woah woah waoh.

@ Hopeless

I'm still waiting for you to explain why you think Grush is scum. You said he "didn't make the correct answer," but exactly what type of answer would you expect from a "town" Grush in that situation? Especially to a random early-game accusation of all things?

Telling you would be like locking the key inside the padlock. I find grush to be ungrushlike and I think its scummy. Kinda sucks that thrawn finds out issue with that, but I'll be putting an explanation together when I'm back at a computer. I could also be talking out of my ass because I snapped at something from memory, but again I'll explain at the latest in 14ish hours depending on how tired i am when i get home.
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 13 2013 01:32 GMT
#183
On January 13 2013 10:30 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 10:22 Hapahauli wrote:
Woah woah woah waoh.

@ Hopeless

I'm still waiting for you to explain why you think Grush is scum. You said he "didn't make the correct answer," but exactly what type of answer would you expect from a "town" Grush in that situation? Especially to a random early-game accusation of all things?

Telling you would be like locking the key inside the padlock. I find grush to be ungrushlike and I think its scummy. Kinda sucks that thrawn finds out issue with that, but I'll be putting an explanation together when I'm back at a computer. I could also be talking out of my ass because I snapped at something from memory, but again I'll explain at the latest in 14ish hours depending on how tired i am when i get home.


Meta is horrible to go by by itself, IF your town.
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 13 2013 01:33 GMT
#184
On January 13 2013 10:29 MrZentor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 10:20 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 13 2013 10:19 MrZentor wrote:
On January 13 2013 10:16 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 13 2013 10:14 MrZentor wrote:
On January 13 2013 10:10 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 13 2013 10:06 MrZentor wrote:
On January 13 2013 10:05 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 13 2013 10:04 MrZentor wrote:
On January 13 2013 10:01 Hapahauli wrote:
[quote]

His spaminess aside, what do you think about his RNG lynch thing? That stuff is normally not scummy by any means, but the fact he's been pushing Kush on the side (then proposes an RNG lynch on Sloosh) is very questionable.


How so?

If anything, those actions have made him seem more townie in my eyes.


It reads like he doesn't give a shit about who gets lynched.


It reads like he is frustrated with Kush's attitude and thought it would be fun to try something new to generate activity.


He's pushing kush because he thinks kush is scummy. Case in point:
On January 13 2013 09:01 jaybrundage wrote:
On January 13 2013 08:49 kushm4sta wrote:
Wow I was going to try hard this game but then prome said what he said now I have to play like shit just to spite him.
~~~
On January 13 2013 07:08 Dandel Ion wrote:
If Kush goes retard in this game I'll just modkill him

I'll have no qualms about that.

Define full retard.
I will not play illegally that is all I can promise.


The way your entering the thread is terrible your setting the town up for failure.

Its hard enough to play mafia when people are trying there best. If your gonna play like shit and it make it intentionally hard to read you I have no problem lynching you. You looking scummy as it is.

You can step it up, Or get lynched your call.



He says Kush LOOKS scummy, not that he is.


Yeah so what? He's pushing kush because he thinks kush is scummy, and not out of simple frustration. The difference between "LOOKS" and "IS" is irrelevant in that regard.


No, he isn't even really pushing Kush.

In that post, Jay is threatening Kush, telling him that if he doesn't play well, Jay won't be afraid to lynch him.

Jay saying "You look scummy as it is." is a way for Jay to show Kush that it wouldn't be difficult to lynch him.

Which is why he said "look" instead of "are".


Well we can agree to disagree on the interpretation, because I don't see what you see.

I still want to hear his answer to things.


I don't know; it looks as if you purposely took it out of context, just to make Jay look scummy. :/

In other news, I'm going to start putting
in all my posts, to make it difficult to quote me.
[/QUOTE]

I don't think I took it out of context. Hell why are you hard-defending someone barely 3 hours into the game? Sure you have a town read on him, but how can you be this sure so quickly? Do you really think Jay is completely incapable of doing what he just has done as mafia?

Secondly, I'm never going to really get a grip on Jay's alignment until I have a discussion with him. It's possible that you're right about all of this, but I want to hear from Jay and make a decision from that.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 13 2013 01:34 GMT
#185
I hate you and your quote tags MrZ.

+ Show Spoiler +
jk <3
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
January 13 2013 01:34 GMT
#186
Is Grush this serious and scummy as town?

Also, I lol'd when he attempted to quote me. [/QUOTE]
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2013 01:35 GMT
#187
NVM MY BAD

##unvote
##Vote: grush
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 13 2013 01:35 GMT
#188
On January 13 2013 10:30 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 10:22 Hapahauli wrote:
Woah woah woah waoh.

@ Hopeless

I'm still waiting for you to explain why you think Grush is scum. You said he "didn't make the correct answer," but exactly what type of answer would you expect from a "town" Grush in that situation? Especially to a random early-game accusation of all things?

Telling you would be like locking the key inside the padlock. I find grush to be ungrushlike and I think its scummy. Kinda sucks that thrawn finds out issue with that, but I'll be putting an explanation together when I'm back at a computer. I could also be talking out of my ass because I snapped at something from memory, but again I'll explain at the latest in 14ish hours depending on how tired i am when i get home.


Well do be prepared to explain this, because it does look like your'e talking out of your ass rather than a rational read.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 13 2013 01:36 GMT
#189
On January 13 2013 10:34 MrZentor wrote:
Is Grush this serious and scummy as town?

Also, I lol'd when he attempted to quote me.


Yea I'm being a bit different this game, last game there were so many people that so many things were happening and other people already covered what I thought and every time I revisited the thread there was another page. I like mini's a bit more :D
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 13 2013 01:36 GMT
#190
/facepalm

Thrawn... please... please play this out seriously. Please.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 13 2013 01:37 GMT
#191
On January 13 2013 10:35 thrawn2112 wrote:
NVM MY BAD

##unvote
##Vote: grush


Do you want to explain?
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
January 13 2013 01:39 GMT
#192
I don't think I took it out of context. Hell why are you hard-defending someone barely 3 hours into the game? Sure you have a town read on him, but how can you be this sure so quickly? Do you really think Jay is completely incapable of doing what he just has done as mafia?

Secondly, I'm never going to really get a grip on Jay's alignment until I have a discussion with him. It's possible that you're right about all of this, but I want to hear from Jay and make a decision from that.

[/QUOTE]
Saying that Jay was pushing Kush is definitely taking his quote out of context, whether you realize this or not.

I'm am almost certain he's town. Yes, it is possible for him to do this as scum, but it's extremely unlikely he'd be able to.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 13 2013 01:39 GMT
#193
Also because no one even commented at it...

On January 13 2013 10:29 grush57 wrote:
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On January 13 2013 10:18 Hopeless1der wrote:
Man, grush is looking useful dafuq is this? Also, still scum to me.

Jay explain the Random push please


Okay, I am scum because I am useful, or I am scum because of meta. But the only time I was scum was when I lurked. ?
And Jay put in his post so we have something to talk about.

Hopeless is scum yo.

##Vote: Hopeless1der

"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
January 13 2013 01:41 GMT
#194
wbg u better be town so u can smack down these kiddies
"Every thing is either simply awful or awfully simple." | "Weaklings can't pick... their way of death."
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 13 2013 01:42 GMT
#195
On January 13 2013 10:39 MrZentor wrote:
Show nested quote +
I don't think I took it out of context. Hell why are you hard-defending someone barely 3 hours into the game? Sure you have a town read on him, but how can you be this sure so quickly? Do you really think Jay is completely incapable of doing what he just has done as mafia?

Secondly, I'm never going to really get a grip on Jay's alignment until I have a discussion with him. It's possible that you're right about all of this, but I want to hear from Jay and make a decision from that.


Saying that Jay was pushing Kush is definitely taking his quote out of context, whether you realize this or not.

I'm am almost certain he's town. Yes, it is possible for him to do this as scum, but it's extremely unlikely he'd be able to.


I get that you think Jay is town based on his spaminess, but 3 hours is far too small of a sample size to make a meta judgement. If he keeps this up, I'll be inclined to agree with you. For now, I want to hear his answers, because I'm pretty sure I"m not taking him out of context.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 13 2013 01:43 GMT
#196
@ Grush

As for hopeless, not sure what to make of him right now. He does apparently have some reasoning to vote you tucked away, and I want to see that before I make a judgement on him.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
January 13 2013 01:48 GMT
#197
On January 13 2013 10:42 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 10:39 MrZentor wrote:
I don't think I took it out of context. Hell why are you hard-defending someone barely 3 hours into the game? Sure you have a town read on him, but how can you be this sure so quickly? Do you really think Jay is completely incapable of doing what he just has done as mafia?

Secondly, I'm never going to really get a grip on Jay's alignment until I have a discussion with him. It's possible that you're right about all of this, but I want to hear from Jay and make a decision from that.


Saying that Jay was pushing Kush is definitely taking his quote out of context, whether you realize this or not.

I'm am almost certain he's town. Yes, it is possible for him to do this as scum, but it's extremely unlikely he'd be able to.


I get that you think Jay is town based on his spaminess, but 3 hours is far too small of a sample size to make a meta judgement. If he keeps this up, I'll be inclined to agree with you. For now, I want to hear his answers, because I'm pretty sure I"m not taking him out of context.

[/QUOTE]
And now you're misrepresenting me. Believe it or not, I don't judge if somebody is town by how much they post; I am also not reading Jay based on meta. I'm reading him from his actions and their motives. Also, I don't see how how you think you're not taking him out of context. -.-

Also, please don't edit what I say before quoting me.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 13 2013 01:56 GMT
#198
On January 13 2013 10:48 MrZentor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 10:42 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 13 2013 10:39 MrZentor wrote:
I don't think I took it out of context. Hell why are you hard-defending someone barely 3 hours into the game? Sure you have a town read on him, but how can you be this sure so quickly? Do you really think Jay is completely incapable of doing what he just has done as mafia?

Secondly, I'm never going to really get a grip on Jay's alignment until I have a discussion with him. It's possible that you're right about all of this, but I want to hear from Jay and make a decision from that.


Saying that Jay was pushing Kush is definitely taking his quote out of context, whether you realize this or not.

I'm am almost certain he's town. Yes, it is possible for him to do this as scum, but it's extremely unlikely he'd be able to.


I get that you think Jay is town based on his spaminess, but 3 hours is far too small of a sample size to make a meta judgement. If he keeps this up, I'll be inclined to agree with you. For now, I want to hear his answers, because I'm pretty sure I"m not taking him out of context.

----EDIT-----
And now you're misrepresenting me. Believe it or not, I don't judge if somebody is town by how much they post; I am also not reading Jay based on meta. I'm reading him from his actions and their motives. Also, I don't see how how you think you're not taking him out of context. -.-
----EDIT----


Oh hm actually you are right. He has a second post with the quote:

On January 13 2013 09:15 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 09:09 kushm4sta wrote:
Jay I'm curious, what is scummy about my entrace?

You setting your self up to do scummy shit all game. You dont come in say. Im gonna play like shit.

Because when you do play like shit and do scummy stuff all game its harder to call you on it. Cause you can claim BUT I SAID I WAS GONNA PLAY LIKE SHIT DERP.

The biggest part of it tho. Is that i think its a dick move and I dont like your approach to the game.


a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 13 2013 02:00 GMT
#199
WELP. On his behavior so far, Jay does seem rather townie.

Anyway MrZ, talk to me about Ruuch a bit. You have your vote on him, and he did respond to it some. Do you make anything one way or the other of his recent posting?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 13 2013 02:02 GMT
#200
Jay, are you still there?

On January 13 2013 10:39 MrZentor wrote:
Show nested quote +
I don't think I took it out of context. Hell why are you hard-defending someone barely 3 hours into the game? Sure you have a town read on him, but how can you be this sure so quickly? Do you really think Jay is completely incapable of doing what he just has done as mafia?

Secondly, I'm never going to really get a grip on Jay's alignment until I have a discussion with him. It's possible that you're right about all of this, but I want to hear from Jay and make a decision from that.


Saying that Jay was pushing Kush is definitely taking his quote out of context, whether you realize this or not.

I'm am almost certain he's town. Yes, it is possible for him to do this as scum, but it's extremely unlikely he'd be able to.[/QUOTE]

Do you think he's playing similarly to British Mafia? I think there are some things in his filter that game (aggression, spamminess) that are similar, but it's far too early to say that. It's just a couple of pages so far. Also, it's not hard to spam a bit with useless posts like random voting (...) to emulate your town game. If you wanted to define fluff, that would be it.

On January 13 2013 10:35 thrawn2112 wrote:
NVM MY BAD

##unvote
##Vote: grush


When we last played together, you were a most valuable asset for town. Why are you just throwing votes without explanation now?

"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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