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jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 13 2013 02:02 GMT
#201
On January 13 2013 10:01 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Jay

Please answer my question. Why are you pushing Kush out of one side of your mouth, then proposing a Sloosh RNG lynch out of the other? It reads a lot like you don't give a shit about who dies.


Well I just didnt like Kushs post it rubbed me the wrong way way play detrimental on purpose. Does it make him scum? No.

But it does make him anti town as fuck again I why put up with bull shit like that. If you dont address it upfront people try to get away with shit like that. I stated this in my reply to Xalatos.

Also as to the RNG lynch exactly what i stated It was to create discussion. I heard a vet mention it and decided to try it out. I mean I state in the post its for discussion. Seems like your nitpicking hapa.

And while i was writing this you discovered the post to Xalatos. zzzzz
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 13 2013 02:03 GMT
#202
On January 13 2013 10:30 grush57 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 10:29 MrZentor wrote:
On January 13 2013 10:20 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 13 2013 10:19 MrZentor wrote:
On January 13 2013 10:16 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 13 2013 10:14 MrZentor wrote:
On January 13 2013 10:10 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 13 2013 10:06 MrZentor wrote:
On January 13 2013 10:05 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 13 2013 10:04 MrZentor wrote:
[quote]

How so?

If anything, those actions have made him seem more townie in my eyes.


It reads like he doesn't give a shit about who gets lynched.


It reads like he is frustrated with Kush's attitude and thought it would be fun to try something new to generate activity.


He's pushing kush because he thinks kush is scummy. Case in point:
On January 13 2013 09:01 jaybrundage wrote:
On January 13 2013 08:49 kushm4sta wrote:
Wow I was going to try hard this game but then prome said what he said now I have to play like shit just to spite him.
~~~
On January 13 2013 07:08 Dandel Ion wrote:
If Kush goes retard in this game I'll just modkill him

I'll have no qualms about that.

Define full retard.
I will not play illegally that is all I can promise.


The way your entering the thread is terrible your setting the town up for failure.

Its hard enough to play mafia when people are trying there best. If your gonna play like shit and it make it intentionally hard to read you I have no problem lynching you. You looking scummy as it is.

You can step it up, Or get lynched your call.



He says Kush LOOKS scummy, not that he is.


Yeah so what? He's pushing kush because he thinks kush is scummy, and not out of simple frustration. The difference between "LOOKS" and "IS" is irrelevant in that regard.


No, he isn't even really pushing Kush.

In that post, Jay is threatening Kush, telling him that if he doesn't play well, Jay won't be afraid to lynch him.

Jay saying "You look scummy as it is." is a way for Jay to show Kush that it wouldn't be difficult to lynch him.

Which is why he said "look" instead of "are".


Well we can agree to disagree on the interpretation, because I don't see what you see.

I still want to hear his answer to things.


I don't know; it looks as if you purposely took it out of context, just to make Jay look scummy. :/

In other news, I'm going to start putting
in all my posts, to make it difficult to quote me.

Why? That's really stupid and scummy.[/QUOTE]


Also THIS IS HILARIOUS. I saw this when reading the thread and busted out laughing.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 13 2013 02:04 GMT
#203
On January 13 2013 11:02 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 10:01 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Jay

Please answer my question. Why are you pushing Kush out of one side of your mouth, then proposing a Sloosh RNG lynch out of the other? It reads a lot like you don't give a shit about who dies.


Well I just didnt like Kushs post it rubbed me the wrong way way play detrimental on purpose. Does it make him scum? No.

But it does make him anti town as fuck again I why put up with bull shit like that. If you dont address it upfront people try to get away with shit like that. I stated this in my reply to Xalatos.

Also as to the RNG lynch exactly what i stated It was to create discussion. I heard a vet mention it and decided to try it out. I mean I state in the post its for discussion. Seems like your nitpicking hapa.

And while i was writing this you discovered the post to Xalatos. zzzzz


Fair enough. Though at this stage of the game, discussion seems to be going well enough to not have to resort to a random-lynch or other discussion-generating plays. There are several interesting things to discuss right now. In particular, I'm interested in hearing your thoughts on Hopeless, as well as the pressure on Grush at the moment.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 13 2013 02:07 GMT
#204
On January 13 2013 09:47 kushm4sta wrote:
fyi i dont read megacases, so keep that in mind.
k this is my last intro post.
Next time I post it will be telling you who i think is scum.


Why are you even playing this game if you don't want to put in effort? I can't imagine scum playing like that, but that's still not an excuse to play anti-town.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 13 2013 02:08 GMT
#205
@ Thrawn

I know you're lurking about somewhere. Get in here and explain these voting shenanigans of yours.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 13 2013 02:08 GMT
#206
@Xalalos

Well Zentor is already defending me lol. I can see him being townie again. Althought i never seen a scummy Zentor.

But as it is so far im leaning town. But regardless i rather not talk about town reads. Anything you think is scummmy as of yet?
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
January 13 2013 02:09 GMT
#207
On January 13 2013 11:00 Hapahauli wrote:
WELP. On his behavior so far, Jay does seem rather townie.

Anyway MrZ, talk to me about Ruuch a bit. You have your vote on him, and he did respond to it some. Do you make anything one way or the other of his recent posting?


I'm leaning townie on him, but it's a pretty weak read.

And I suppose my vote served its purpose.

##Unvote


Do you think he's playing similarly to British Mafia? I think there are some things in his filter that game (aggression, spamminess) that are similar, but it's far too early to say that. It's just a couple of pages so far. Also, it's not hard to spam a bit with useless posts like random voting (...) to emulate your town game. If you wanted to define fluff, that would be it.


No, he's definitely not playing like he was in British Mafia.

My posts have a lot more content than yours, and that vote wasn't random. Are you familiar with the idea of putting pressure on somebody to gauge their response and get a better read on them?
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 13 2013 02:13 GMT
#208
On January 13 2013 11:09 MrZentor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 11:00 Hapahauli wrote:
WELP. On his behavior so far, Jay does seem rather townie.

Anyway MrZ, talk to me about Ruuch a bit. You have your vote on him, and he did respond to it some. Do you make anything one way or the other of his recent posting?


I'm leaning townie on him, but it's a pretty weak read.

And I suppose my vote served its purpose.

##Unvote


Show nested quote +
Do you think he's playing similarly to British Mafia? I think there are some things in his filter that game (aggression, spamminess) that are similar, but it's far too early to say that. It's just a couple of pages so far. Also, it's not hard to spam a bit with useless posts like random voting (...) to emulate your town game. If you wanted to define fluff, that would be it.


No, he's definitely not playing like he was in British Mafia.

My posts have a lot more content than yours, and that vote wasn't random. Are you familiar with the idea of putting pressure on somebody to gauge their response and get a better read on them?


I was talking about Jay in the last sentence. What's the biggest difference between his game now and then?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
January 13 2013 02:15 GMT
#209
On January 13 2013 11:13 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 11:09 MrZentor wrote:
On January 13 2013 11:00 Hapahauli wrote:
WELP. On his behavior so far, Jay does seem rather townie.

Anyway MrZ, talk to me about Ruuch a bit. You have your vote on him, and he did respond to it some. Do you make anything one way or the other of his recent posting?


I'm leaning townie on him, but it's a pretty weak read.

And I suppose my vote served its purpose.

##Unvote


Do you think he 's playing similarly to British Mafia? I think there are some things in his filter that game (aggression, spamminess) that are similar, but it's far too early to say that. It's just a couple of pages so far. Also, it's not hard to spam a bit with useless posts like random voting (...) to emulate your town game. If you wanted to define fluff, that would be it.


No, he's definitely not playing like he was in British Mafia.

My posts have a lot more content than yours, and that vote wasn't random. Are you familiar with the idea of putting pressure on somebody to gauge their response and get a better read on them?


I was talking about Jay in the last sentence. What's the biggest difference between his game now and then?


What? You switched from referring to Jay as "he" to "you"?

He seems a bit more confident this game than last.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 13 2013 02:16 GMT
#210
On January 13 2013 11:04 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 11:02 jaybrundage wrote:
On January 13 2013 10:01 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Jay

Please answer my question. Why are you pushing Kush out of one side of your mouth, then proposing a Sloosh RNG lynch out of the other? It reads a lot like you don't give a shit about who dies.


Well I just didnt like Kushs post it rubbed me the wrong way way play detrimental on purpose. Does it make him scum? No.

But it does make him anti town as fuck again I why put up with bull shit like that. If you dont address it upfront people try to get away with shit like that. I stated this in my reply to Xalatos.

Also as to the RNG lynch exactly what i stated It was to create discussion. I heard a vet mention it and decided to try it out. I mean I state in the post its for discussion. Seems like your nitpicking hapa.

And while i was writing this you discovered the post to Xalatos. zzzzz


Fair enough. Though at this stage of the game, discussion seems to be going well enough to not have to resort to a random-lynch or other discussion-generating plays. There are several interesting things to discuss right now. In particular, I'm interested in hearing your thoughts on Hopeless, as well as the pressure on Grush at the moment.

I have no idea. Im assuming its a meta case. I dont recall playing with grush although the name is familiar. I look forward to his case tho. His response to it is odd. A vote for a vote i guess? Dont know what ot make if it.
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2013 02:16 GMT
#211
my thoughts on the grush/hopeless thing have almost been reset to null for the following reason:

-the reasoning hopeless gave for thinking grush is scum is pretty close to my own reasoning. if I HAD to pick out one of them as scum right now, it'd probably be hopeless

##unvote

Apart from a few specifics in the ongoing grush/hopeless stuff, by biggest concern so far is super.

A lot of his accusations and scumhunting techniques seemed fake/ineffective and he was obsessing over things that do not matter at all. He never actually came to any conclusions based on his questioning, and he seemed to disappear from the thread as activity was starting to pick up.
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 13 2013 02:17 GMT
#212
On January 13 2013 11:08 jaybrundage wrote:
@Xalalos

Well Zentor is already defending me lol. I can see him being townie again. Althought i never seen a scummy Zentor.

But as it is so far im leaning town. But regardless i rather not talk about town reads. Anything you think is scummmy as of yet?


Well, I haven't seen anything really scummy yet. Mostly I'm concerned with your entrance to the thread and thrawn's lack of engagement. And Kushm4sta's attitude, although it's not actually scummy, but it's still anti-town.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
January 13 2013 02:18 GMT
#213
On January 13 2013 11:15 MrZentor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 11:13 Xatalos wrote:
On January 13 2013 11:09 MrZentor wrote:
On January 13 2013 11:00 Hapahauli wrote:
WELP. On his behavior so far, Jay does seem rather townie.

Anyway MrZ, talk to me about Ruuch a bit. You have your vote on him, and he did respond to it some. Do you make anything one way or the other of his recent posting?


I'm leaning townie on him, but it's a pretty weak read.

And I suppose my vote served its purpose.

##Unvote


Do you think he 's playing similarly to British Mafia? I think there are some things in his filter that game (aggression, spamminess) that are similar, but it's far too early to say that. It's just a couple of pages so far. Also, it's not hard to spam a bit with useless posts like random voting (...) to emulate your town game. If you wanted to define fluff, that would be it.


No, he's definitely not playing like he was in British Mafia.

My posts have a lot more content than yours, and that vote wasn't random. Are you familiar with the idea of putting pressure on somebody to gauge their response and get a better read on them?


I was talking about Jay in the last sentence. What's the biggest difference between his game now and then?


What? You switched from referring to Jay as "he" to "you"?

He seems a bit more confident this game than last.

Winning does that
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 13 2013 02:21 GMT
#214
On January 13 2013 11:15 MrZentor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 11:13 Xatalos wrote:
On January 13 2013 11:09 MrZentor wrote:
On January 13 2013 11:00 Hapahauli wrote:
WELP. On his behavior so far, Jay does seem rather townie.

Anyway MrZ, talk to me about Ruuch a bit. You have your vote on him, and he did respond to it some. Do you make anything one way or the other of his recent posting?


I'm leaning townie on him, but it's a pretty weak read.

And I suppose my vote served its purpose.

##Unvote


Do you think he 's playing similarly to British Mafia? I think there are some things in his filter that game (aggression, spamminess) that are similar, but it's far too early to say that. It's just a couple of pages so far. Also, it's not hard to spam a bit with useless posts like random voting (...) to emulate your town game. If you wanted to define fluff, that would be it.


No, he's definitely not playing like he was in British Mafia.

My posts have a lot more content than yours, and that vote wasn't random. Are you familiar with the idea of putting pressure on somebody to gauge their response and get a better read on them?


I was talking about Jay in the last sentence. What's the biggest difference between his game now and then?


What? You switched from referring to Jay as "he" to "you"?

He seems a bit more confident this game than last.


"You" as in you = one (you can see a great view from here / one can see a great view from here).

Hmmm. So he's less careful than in his previous game (as town) and that's the basis of your confident town read?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
January 13 2013 02:24 GMT
#215
On January 13 2013 11:16 thrawn2112 wrote:
my thoughts on the grush/hopeless thing have almost been reset to null for the following reason:

-the reasoning hopeless gave for thinking grush is scum is pretty close to my own reasoning. if I HAD to pick out one of them as scum right now, it'd probably be hopeless


Hopeless really never explained his reasoning about Grush though. So you think/thought Grush is/was scum for gut-feeling or something?

So why would you pick Hopeless as scum? You voted him earlier, but you also changed your mind about it.

##unvote

Apart from a few specifics in the ongoing grush/hopeless stuff, by biggest concern so far is super.

A lot of his accusations and scumhunting techniques seemed fake/ineffective and he was obsessing over things that do not matter at all. He never actually came to any conclusions based on his questioning, and he seemed to disappear from the thread as activity was starting to pick up.


Regarding super, he did kinda peace out on this activity love-boat of ours =/

I know you played in a scum-team with him in LVIII - does this seem like a similar behavior pattern for scum-super?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
January 13 2013 02:25 GMT
#216
On January 13 2013 11:21 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 11:15 MrZentor wrote:
On January 13 2013 11:13 Xatalos wrote:
On January 13 2013 11:09 MrZentor wrote:
On January 13 2013 11:00 Hapahauli wrote:
WELP. On his behavior so far, Jay does seem rather townie.

Anyway MrZ, talk to me about Ruuch a bit. You have your vote on him, and he did respond to it some. Do you make anything one way or the other of his recent posting?


I'm leaning townie on him, but it's a pretty weak read.

And I suppose my vote served its purpose.

##Unvote


Do you think he 's playing similarly to British Mafia? I think there are some things in his filter that game (aggression, spamminess) that are similar, but it's far too early to say that. It's just a couple of pages so far. Also, it's not hard to spam a bit with useless posts like random voting (...) to emulate your town game. If you wanted to define fluff, that would be it.


No, he's definitely not playing like he was in British Mafia.

My posts have a lot more content than yours, and that vote wasn't random. Are you familiar with the idea of putting pressure on somebody to gauge their response and get a better read on them?


I was talking about Jay in the last sentence. What's the biggest difference between his game now and then?


What? You switched from referring to Jay as "he" to "you"?

He seems a bit more confident this game than last.


"You" as in you = one (you can see a great view from here / one can see a great view from here).

Hmmm. So he's less careful than in his previous game (as town) and that's the basis of your confident town read?


You didn't ask me what the basis of my town read is.

You asked the difference between Jay's play this game and last.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 13 2013 02:30 GMT
#217
On January 13 2013 11:16 thrawn2112 wrote:
my thoughts on the grush/hopeless thing have almost been reset to null for the following reason:

-the reasoning hopeless gave for thinking grush is scum is pretty close to my own reasoning. if I HAD to pick out one of them as scum right now, it'd probably be hopeless

##unvote

Apart from a few specifics in the ongoing grush/hopeless stuff, by biggest concern so far is super.

A lot of his accusations and scumhunting techniques seemed fake/ineffective and he was obsessing over things that do not matter at all. He never actually came to any conclusions based on his questioning, and he seemed to disappear from the thread as activity was starting to pick up.


What are you saying? You agree with hopeless so he's more scummy than grush whom you think is scummy with the same reasons as hopeless?

Yeah, supersoft's focus on a single smilie was very overdone. But I think he looked pretty convinced about the matter. Why was it fake? Maybe he just wanted to pressure and get a reaction?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
January 13 2013 02:32 GMT
#218
On January 13 2013 11:25 MrZentor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 11:21 Xatalos wrote:
On January 13 2013 11:15 MrZentor wrote:
On January 13 2013 11:13 Xatalos wrote:
On January 13 2013 11:09 MrZentor wrote:
On January 13 2013 11:00 Hapahauli wrote:
WELP. On his behavior so far, Jay does seem rather townie.

Anyway MrZ, talk to me about Ruuch a bit. You have your vote on him, and he did respond to it some. Do you make anything one way or the other of his recent posting?


I'm leaning townie on him, but it's a pretty weak read.

And I suppose my vote served its purpose.

##Unvote


Do you think he 's playing similarly to British Mafia? I think there are some things in his filter that game (aggression, spamminess) that are similar, but it's far too early to say that. It's just a couple of pages so far. Also, it's not hard to spam a bit with useless posts like random voting (...) to emulate your town game. If you wanted to define fluff, that would be it.


No, he's definitely not playing like he was in British Mafia.

My posts have a lot more content than yours, and that vote wasn't random. Are you familiar with the idea of putting pressure on somebody to gauge their response and get a better read on them?


I was talking about Jay in the last sentence. What's the biggest difference between his game now and then?


What? You switched from referring to Jay as "he" to "you"?

He seems a bit more confident this game than last.


"You" as in you = one (you can see a great view from here / one can see a great view from here).

Hmmm. So he's less careful than in his previous game (as town) and that's the basis of your confident town read?


You didn't ask me what the basis of my town read is.

You asked the difference between Jay's play this game and last.


Yeah, but it's related. You saw Jay as townie last game and now you're at least equally convinced. I'm guessing more confident = more townish = very townish in your mind?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
January 13 2013 02:34 GMT
#219
On January 13 2013 11:24 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2013 11:16 thrawn2112 wrote:
my thoughts on the grush/hopeless thing have almost been reset to null for the following reason:

-the reasoning hopeless gave for thinking grush is scum is pretty close to my own reasoning. if I HAD to pick out one of them as scum right now, it'd probably be hopeless


Hopeless really never explained his reasoning about Grush though. So you think/thought Grush is/was scum for gut-feeling or something?

So why would you pick Hopeless as scum? You voted him earlier, but you also changed your mind about it.


I wouldn't pick hopeless as scum, unless it was out of the two of them. Hopeless just came away from the situation more scummy than grush. My "grush is scum imo" post was not all that serious but was based on me noticing an apparent difference in how grush is playing now than how he plays is town. The only problem is that it's actually a somewhat more townie way to play, lol.

On January 13 2013 11:24 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
##unvote

Apart from a few specifics in the ongoing grush/hopeless stuff, by biggest concern so far is super.

A lot of his accusations and scumhunting techniques seemed fake/ineffective and he was obsessing over things that do not matter at all. He never actually came to any conclusions based on his questioning, and he seemed to disappear from the thread as activity was starting to pick up.


Regarding super, he did kinda peace out on this activity love-boat of ours =/

I know you played in a scum-team with him in LVIII - does this seem like a similar behavior pattern for scum-super?


In LVII he was definitely putting on an act. He kinda threw out jabs here and there hinting that things were scummy but he didn't push any of it too hard. He's not being a dick this game like he was in lvii, but that doesn't mean he's not scum. My read on him isn't at all meta related. On top of that, he specifically talked about making his meta more agreeable/cooperative after lvii ended. So i'm not gonna draw too many conclusions based on his meta
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
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January 13 2013 02:36 GMT
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On January 13 2013 11:30 Xatalos wrote:
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On January 13 2013 11:16 thrawn2112 wrote:
my thoughts on the grush/hopeless thing have almost been reset to null for the following reason:

-the reasoning hopeless gave for thinking grush is scum is pretty close to my own reasoning. if I HAD to pick out one of them as scum right now, it'd probably be hopeless

##unvote

Apart from a few specifics in the ongoing grush/hopeless stuff, by biggest concern so far is super.

A lot of his accusations and scumhunting techniques seemed fake/ineffective and he was obsessing over things that do not matter at all. He never actually came to any conclusions based on his questioning, and he seemed to disappear from the thread as activity was starting to pick up.


What are you saying? You agree with hopeless so he's more scummy than grush whom you think is scummy with the same reasons as hopeless?

Yeah, supersoft's focus on a single smilie was very overdone. But I think he looked pretty convinced about the matter. Why was it fake? Maybe he just wanted to pressure and get a reaction?


xatalos do you actually have opinions about any of this or are you just going to ask random questions?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
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