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On June 22 2010 23:42 DCLXVI wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2010 21:13 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Even if radfield is going to be inactive I can communicate with him regularly. If and when we need to pardon we will use him. I'm going out on a limb here to stress that I will probably be the best person for the position. I am also asking the detective to IMMEDIATELY check me. Do we have a detective? The role list says Detective: See Legilimency and Occlumency. Legilimency is listed as a mafia spell. From the way medic is defined (see episky, a blue spell) it seems that there is no actual detective that can role check. Also, can people have multiple spells? Occlumency seems kind of useless unless people can have multiple spells. I am not sure why the mafia would want to try to find out everyone's character. Obviously they would like to know who harry is so they don't kill him, but other than that it only seems to help them guess at blue roles, maybe. (this is assuming that the mafia already have a safe name list) So is it true that only mafia get the red spells and only townies get the blue spells?
Town has to be able to use some of those red spells imo. Also, some townie roles clearly would be able to. I don't think Aurors are just body guards, prob DT and Vig capable too. They're are prob plenty of med/roleblockers...It's a themed game, and almost every themed game (see any of callers/aces games that are themed) we have on TL is overly filled with roles.
On June 22 2010 23:42 DCLXVI wrote:
I am not sure what to think about Amber[light] right now, he seems like a good player but until I get a clarification on spell rules I cannot make a guess at his role.
Now that YellowInk is here I feel more secure in voting for him or radfield. Radfield may be the better choice just because he sort of didn't want the role because he doesn't think that he will be active. That is either a good ploy or he is thinking for the better of the town; I think that it is more likely a townie sort of play. I have no idea about Hesmyrr.
@opz
So far I have only seen 1 good post out of you too, I just don't spam the thread like you do to seem active.
I'm not voting YellowInk. He has one decent post, and I demand more. Better statement of his own plans. I feel he should be investigated and atleast one other person who threw support (Not Johnnyspazz).
Oh and...
Aww, sorry, did you get butt hurt by my calling you out? Did it get you to post? I think so.
That's the whole point. Draw attention to the stragglers. Make them think they'll die and they come and make decent posts. Good Job. And look, I probably just taught you something? Sheesh. Atleast now you won't be killed for inactivity. Now onward to more pressing matters!
On June 22 2010 23:47 zeks wrote:
@DCLXVI
good point do we even have a town rolecheck to work with? Forget what I said above. My vote remains on Amber but with possibility of changing tonight.
Don't go into game set up. It's always reasonable to assume atleast one detective role is in the game. So yes. We have a role check to work with. Probably quite a few. Now about that role check...will we see results? Possibly, possibly not. Dude investigating could die, dude being investigated could die, person investigating might not ever post findings. It's all ifs. We can't just assume they will be posted.
On June 23 2010 00:00 Hesmyrr wrote:
~OpZ~ and Amber[light] voted for Radfield.
zeks and AcrossFiveJulys voted for Amber[LighT]
Casual question to ~OpZ~... If you don't like Radfield, why are you voting for him?
I like him more than you (not that I don't actually like you, ThreeKingdoms you were my buddy!). I'm actually planning on changing my vote still, and you had the same idea as me with Roffles, but I don't know if Roffles can scum find...I know Radfield can...But I learned my lesson from the game I was modkilled for. I was active, except the last day, and missed my vote.
Radfield ALSO said he doesn't have as much time to dedicate to the game, (As I've pointed out) so I don't really feel he should be a mayor or pardoner.
And Amber voting for Radfield (Amber trying to be pardoner?).
How does that sound to you Hes?
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On June 23 2010 01:20 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Ahhh and I did not realize that there was a godfather in this game. I understand that this is (yet another) variable. However with checking players it will be wise to note that the godfather is probably someone who can mask their identity (ie someone that could be good, but is bad). The book fanatics are going to really have to step up when we need to decipher between potential "bad" characters and the good ones. I'm ready to assist with what I can, but ultimately the detectives will need to make the choice to with-hold or post up valuable clue information.
Luna Lovegood's father is probably the Traitor, or snape. GF could prob be either too. He was full on supportin harry in book 7, but instantly betrayed cuz luna was kidnapped.
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BM said that Snape was intentionally left out of the game, so we can eliminate him immediately
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On June 22 2010 13:03 Bill Murray wrote:
i even almost left out severus on accident
No. Amber. Snape is in the game. He almost did.
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ahhh completely misread, my mistake :/
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On June 22 2010 23:42 DCLXVI wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2010 21:13 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Even if radfield is going to be inactive I can communicate with him regularly. If and when we need to pardon we will use him. I'm going out on a limb here to stress that I will probably be the best person for the position. I am also asking the detective to IMMEDIATELY check me. Do we have a detective? The role list says Detective: See Legilimency and Occlumency. Legilimency is listed as a mafia spell. From the way medic is defined (see episky, a blue spell) it seems that there is no actual detective that can role check. Also, can people have multiple spells? Occlumency seems kind of useless unless people can have multiple spells. I am not sure why the mafia would want to try to find out everyone's character. Obviously they would like to know who harry is so they don't kill him, but other than that it only seems to help them guess at blue roles, maybe. (this is assuming that the mafia already have a safe name list) So is it true that only mafia get the red spells and only townies get the blue spells?
It would make no sense if the town didn't have at least some of the "red" spells. I think the only actual difference between the blue spell and the red spells is only the "moral compass" aspect of it. The town would be extraordinarily weak without a legilimancer at all. Someone with occlumency can block that obviously but if this game is themed based on actual book events the number of people that should have occlumency is very very small.
I don't see why people wouldn't have multiple spells.
I'm voting for Amber[Light] for now. He's really the only candidate that has any plan what so ever that we can follow through so at least we have some sort of direction to go once twilight/night hits. Anything is better than running around without heads on straight.
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On June 23 2010 01:40 Amber[LighT] wrote:
BM said that Snape was intentionally left out of the game, so we can eliminate him immediately
no, i said i almost left him out
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On June 23 2010 01:42 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2010 13:03 Bill Murray wrote:
i even almost left out severus on accident No. Amber. Snape is in the game. He almost did.
oh sorry :p
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@ day 1 lynching policy: Unless a good red argument is presented, I would go after whomever is least active that is not going to be modkilled. We need people to be active to root out the red, so I encourage everyone to post frequently.
@ existance of bus driver: I am sure this is a game full of spells. Be wary of when and how you use them. The bus driver is devastating if they can predict your movements.
@ existance of godfather: With 4 death eaters and one being godfather, investigation seems even less useful than ever. If your investigations are of a limited number, use them wisely. If they are extremely limited, I would probably wait until you have someone analyzed on behavior before trying to check them out.
@ DT investigations of me: I'm going to try to avoid wasting any of our investigations by saying that I would not be a good target for this. Whether you believe that makes me pro town or pro mafia is up to you. However I will say that in a few days if I am under heavy suspicion and people come after me with a lynch I should have enough substance to be able to defend myself and show myself to be town.
@ medics: Whether this claim makes me worth of protecting or not is up to you. I would recommend slightly against protecting me as I would hate to see multiple medics covering me. It's good to keep the death eaters guessing on their targets, though. My partial claim should serve this well.
Because I have come forward to say these things, I think that this would make me an ideal Governor. If I am red and end up being forced to use my pardon early, you will lynch me and my partner the following day - town would be in an excellent position. Since I have stated that if I come under suspicion later in the game I will likely be able to defend myself, you could use that to see that I am not red and therefore not have to worry about getting ambushed by a pardon effect in the late game.
I would be fine if chosen as Minister of Magic as well, but I think with what I have claimed that the death eaters would not target me in the unprotected role of Governor due to fear of being blocked by a medic.
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voting ends in a little under 4 hours
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This thread is like a ghost town leading up to the deadline - especially with so many votes uncast. Between the other candidates I am indifferent, so I'm dropping my vote on myself. I will consider others as more votes come in.
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Now that we know there is a godfather I am more suspicious of Amber[light]. He is trying to arrange the two offices and asked for someone to rolecheck him once he gets an office.
I am going to throw my vote on roffles for now for the same reason as hesmyrr.
On June 23 2010 01:21 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Oh and...
Aww, sorry, did you get butt hurt by my calling you out? Did it get you to post? I think so.
That's the whole point. Draw attention to the stragglers. Make them think they'll die and they come and make decent posts. Good Job. And look, I probably just taught you something? Sheesh. Atleast now you won't be killed for inactivity. Now onward to more pressing matters!
=(
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Wow you are dumb (or mafia)
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Radfield
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@hesmyrr This is exactly why I nominated you. You just called upon like 6 people to clarify and back-up their posts. You make good quality posts, and are active in a great way. You played hard for your 'team'(townies) in callers game, and played well.
@roffles: We do actually need to start discussing the lynch, because the day ends in 4-5 hours. Unless you feel confident that the mayor will make the proper decision
I will still run on my own if Radfield doesn't feel like he wants the position as pardoner. Like I said I think I can function much better as the MoM so we need to make sure the votes are in line to have myself as no. 1, and radfield as no. 2
I'm fine being the Pardoner. I can certainly guarantee that I won't pardon anyone. Also, to clarify my activity levels: I will be active in the thread, and I'll be actively following everything that's going on. I just can't devote a ton of time to searching through posts hunting for mafia. I will still be doing this, but not to the extent I would like(It's not like I'm just going to go AFK this game). Whomever gets elected as mayor, DOES need to be doing this though, and needs to be actively leading the town. I think Amber[light] so far seems like a good candidate, Yellowink would probably also do a good job (Hesmyrr would probably do a good job as well, but he has a shaky schedule).
I will vote for myself for the moment(in an effort to be pardoner), but I'll definitely change my vote to Amber[light] if needed to ensure he gets mayor. I think he's the best candidate.
Also, checking both mayor and pardoner is a good idea, as it gives a measure of credibility to the pair(they can't both be godfather). However, here is BM's quote on Legilimancy:
Legilimency: The ability to read someone's mind. I will give you a PM on their thoughts, and you may use that information to deduce what character the person may be.
I don't think we'll be getting quite as accurate results as we are assuming. Seems like we get more of a clue as to the persons identity, then any kind of alignment check. If this is the case, it may be more difficult to determine alignment than previously thought, and depending on how familiar one is with the books, you might need to post the 'thoughts' into the thread.
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
As far as lynching , the safest route is to go with a non-contributing player. But someone who won't get modkilled. Of course, this basically never nets a mafia, because mafia always make sure to post enough on day 1 to not get lynched. Despite this I'm almost always in favor of voting for the more inactive player, solely on the basis that it makes the overall game more fun. I'd rather have an actively posting mafia, then a non-active townie. Also, it's very hard to distinguish between town and mafia on day 1, as I learned the hard way last game(couldn't you just have been mafia AFJ? I would have looked so good....)
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On June 23 2010 04:00 Radfield wrote:
couldn't you just have been mafia AFJ? I would have looked so good....
You could always try your luck this game -_^ if we keep playing together, eventually you'll be right! To be fair, for a few hours I was fairly convinced you were red last game when you turned out green.
Anyway, unless the rest of the town wakes up and starts voting a lot differently, it looks like we'll have amber/radfield as our town leaders. Both of them seem rather pro town at this point, but of course, as always, don't overreact and start PM'ing your roles to them or put complete trust in them.
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On June 23 2010 04:35 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 04:00 Radfield wrote:
couldn't you just have been mafia AFJ? I would have looked so good....
You could always try your luck this game -_^ if we keep playing together, eventually you'll be right! To be fair, for a few hours I was fairly convinced you were red last game when you turned out green. Anyway, unless the rest of the town wakes up and starts voting a lot differently, it looks like we'll have amber/radfield as our town leaders. Both of them seem rather pro town at this point, but of course, as always, don't overreact and start PM'ing your roles to them or put complete trust in them.
You aren't supposed to PM at all unless you have a role that allows it in the first place...
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On June 23 2010 04:44 Jayme wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 04:35 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:On June 23 2010 04:00 Radfield wrote:
couldn't you just have been mafia AFJ? I would have looked so good....
You could always try your luck this game -_^ if we keep playing together, eventually you'll be right! To be fair, for a few hours I was fairly convinced you were red last game when you turned out green. Anyway, unless the rest of the town wakes up and starts voting a lot differently, it looks like we'll have amber/radfield as our town leaders. Both of them seem rather pro town at this point, but of course, as always, don't overreact and start PM'ing your roles to them or put complete trust in them. You aren't supposed to PM at all unless you have a role that allows it in the first place...
Ah. Good point. My previous couple games have allowed it so it's ingrained in my strategizing.
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Alright, I apologize for my inactivity for the past 2 days.
I've finally finished all my exams, and I will be pretty much free now
Once again, sorry for my inactivity
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Alright, caught up and ready to play.
I'll try not to be a shitty player like I usually am
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Hey everyone, back from another fun day at work. I'm going to go ahead and cast my vote for Radfield. The guy definitely seems to have a grasp on the game, and with all of the crazy spells and roles in this particular game, we need somebody like him to sort through the muck and the mire. Plus I support his notion of lynching the relatively inactive players, those just trying to skate by. And with that, I'm off for a bit of a bike ride.
Oh and about the whole red/blue spells, it would seem that town has to have some access to red spells, what with DT's and Vigs alone. Seems we would have a very difficult game ahead of us if we had our hands tied from using those at all.
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