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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
Here's a train of thought; BM calls Lanaia is scum. BM protects Lanaia to 'reduce mafia KP', even though it didn't, nor could it have. So what did it achieve? It saved her from kp. There were plenty of options, why Lanaia specifically? Why does BM want to protect someone he has a scum read on? I see scum buddies or blue hunting as possible reasons. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On January 18 2012 05:31 Toadesstern wrote: Judging on how much we think differently I'd say you're a probably kill as well. You're just wrong way too often  The fact that you can confidently say I'm wrong too often when I've only been provably wrong once means you need to die today. At most, you'd know that I've been wrong twice, (if you are town) which isn't "too often" unless your standards for finding scum are unreasonably high, which I don't find likely, seeing as I don't believe you've ever even found scum as town before. ##unvote Protactinium ##vote Toadesstern | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On January 18 2012 04:45 Jackal58 wrote: This is enough for me to hang your ass. You won't pass judgement but you'll help hang his ass. Scummy Visc. Very scummy. If you don't like the Macpo lynch this guy is an excellent alternative. It's scummy for me to consolidate our votes on one candidate and avoid a no-lynch? After XLVIII? Pull the other one Jackal...seriously. I'll tell you what...I'll go look at this dude's like 4 posts and make a judgement for myself, but I know that it's going to take something REALLY pro-town for me to move my vote because the vets have set their sights, and I do NOT want a no-lynch today. Hang me if you want, but I can assure you it gets you NO closer to finding scum, because I'm town and because no one is going to dare defend me after my claim debacle yesterday. | ||
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
##Unvote ##Vote Bill Murray | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 18 2012 05:31 Cyber_Cheese wrote: Wait, I feel like I just put two and two together. Maybe I should listen more. Here's a train of thought; BM calls Lanaia is scum. BM protects Lanaia to 'reduce mafia KP', even though it didn't, nor could it have. So what did it achieve? It saved her from kp. There were plenty of options, why Lanaia specifically? Why does BM want to protect someone he has a scum read on? I see scum buddies or blue hunting as possible reasons. If he really wanted to protect a scumbuddy don't you think he would have protected a vet for safety issues or Cyri because he was so heavy under fire? But yeah locking up lanaia does not make sense (from town perspective) unless he was activly trying to counter lock. Like locking up the medic, RB or JOAT of mafia. But that's so incredible hard to do that I don't believe he was doing that. I can't think of another reasonable thing from townperspectiv other than "he did not know that it's not lowering mafia KP because he did not read the rules". | ||
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Scamp
United States1086 Posts
On January 18 2012 05:28 Jayjay54 wrote: because I think there is an abundance of lynch candidates. sandro, BC, chaos, ggq. a double lynch also enchances the chances of lynching an established player. e.g if today was a double lynch the race for the second place would be REALLY interesting. No, if everyone had two votes this day there would also be 17 votes on GGQ and you would think he is town as well. Enhances the chances of lynching an established player? What? | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On January 18 2012 05:30 Cwave wrote: BC back to share who he mason'd with yet? Or gonna try and avoid that request? If Mapco is getting modkilled i will ##vote: Chaosquo what the fuck is this? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On January 18 2012 05:35 wherebugsgo wrote: The fact that you can confidently say I'm wrong too often when I've only been provably wrong once means you need to die today. At most, you'd know that I've been wrong twice, (if you are town) which isn't "too often" unless your standards for finding scum are unreasonably high, which I don't find likely, seeing as I don't believe you've ever even found scum as town before. ##unvote Protactinium ##vote Toadesstern I actually agree with the Lanaia judgement - why is that read in particular bullshit? She hasn't done anything this game, and her reads are meek as fuck. What have you found that's particularly pro-town about Lanaia? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 18 2012 05:35 wherebugsgo wrote: The fact that you can confidently say I'm wrong too often when I've only been provably wrong once means you need to die today. At most, you'd know that I've been wrong twice, (if you are town) which isn't "too often" unless your standards for finding scum are unreasonably high, which I don't find likely, seeing as I don't believe you've ever even found scum as town before. ##unvote Protactinium ##vote Toadesstern I only had 2 games as town. Game 1 I pm'ed you a list of 5 people d1. 2 of them were modkilled d1 the rest was mafia. Game 2 I thought ciry is either blue or red and after everyone was attacking me I went with the blue read and that was wrong My point is that you're as you've mentioned I got 2 things about you I know. You're wrong on both, I was right once (telling you I am town isn't something I count as being right myself obviously). So far not a single flip (mafia lynches) suprised me and I had everyone on a townread although it was only a slight one. So yeah. I'm having troubles believing you're worse than I am especially since I am so bad according to you | ||
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Cwave
Netherlands313 Posts
On January 18 2012 05:24 wherebugsgo wrote: Now I remember why I hate large games... Don't join then? :O On January 18 2012 05:24 wherebugsgo wrote: Must kill: Bill Murray Lanaia Toadesstern Meapak Scamp Bumatlarge Should probably kill: Jackal Sandro L Protactinium Once these players are dead there's probably half the mafia team hiding among noob lurkers. You just listed 10 people without ANY case in the post and we allready flipped one scummy bastard. So after these 11, you would continue lynching random lurkers? | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On January 18 2012 05:40 Cwave wrote: Don't join then? :O You just listed 10 people without ANY case in the post and we allready flipped one scummy bastard. So after these 11, you would continue lynching random lurkers? If any of those players flip town, I'd be willing to lynch you, for one. Also, I don't need to provide an explanation for any of these unless I need to. I'm operating on a need to know basis right now. You can be assured that I have good reasons for suspecting these players. However, I'm not about to bomb the thread with a massive post that no one's going to read. If you actually care and have a difference in opinion, go ahead and ask specific questions. Also Toad that's cute but it doesn't make you any less scummy. Care to explain why you think my scumread of lanaia is bullshit? | ||
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Cwave
Netherlands313 Posts
On January 18 2012 05:39 VisceraEyes wrote: Why do you fucks CARE who BC masoned with? Are you scared? It's not like he's gonna get manipulated in PM land - he's the goddamn Batman in PM land. I care cause he claims to be a mason. I want to know if he can keep the mason shit up or he turns out to be a jack and lied. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 18 2012 05:44 wherebugsgo wrote: [...] Also Toad that's cute but it doesn't make you any less scummy. Care to explain why you think my scumread of lanaia is bullshit? she's a null, maybe a slight town read for me. Looks to me like her "sry guys, I'm really not sure"-wishy-washy-town-meta. | ||
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Jayjay54
Germany2296 Posts
On January 18 2012 05:31 Cyber_Cheese wrote: Wait, I feel like I just put two and two together. Maybe I should listen more. Here's a train of thought; BM calls Lanaia is scum. BM protects Lanaia to 'reduce mafia KP', even though it didn't, nor could it have. So what did it achieve? It saved her from kp. There were plenty of options, why Lanaia specifically? Why does BM want to protect someone he has a scum read on? I see scum buddies or blue hunting as possible reasons. hmm. what bothers me so much is that he never ever talks about lanaia a single time until: + Show Spoiler + On January 15 2012 21:52 Bill Murray wrote: Town supersoft Cyber_Cheese Toadesstern Adam4167 Foolishness Nisani201 EchelonTee Jayjay54 L Liquid`Sheth kitaman27 BloodyC0bbler Kurumi p4NDemik Meapak_Ziphh wherebugsgo Dont want to lynch: VisceraEyes Jitsu Mr. Wiggles ~OpZ~ Ciryandor Jackal58 hiro protagonist GiygaS BrownBear Where have you been? Wouldn't mind lynching these lurkers: igabod zeks evantrees Chaosquo Cwave Slardar rgTheSchworz Scamp glurio rtgICEMAN Maxella blahz0r GGQ Lynch, Lynch, Lynch!: Protactinium (Mystlord/Incognito) sandroba risk.nuke Munk-E scumatlarge Lanaia Macpo Mafia this post. no case. no nothing and she ends up on the Lynch Lynch Lynch list. Feels somehow like an excuse to jail. Up to that point she posted a little, pretty neutral imo. But, to me, nowhere near a DefScum. Then this post (which I still don't get) On January 16 2012 14:10 Bill Murray wrote: I am pretty sure I saved Lanaia from being killed last night into random BC accusations based on masoning... This post is weird too: On January 17 2012 12:35 Bill Murray wrote: Ok, guys, I've passed on the names of the BGs to the 2 masons that masoned me the other guy townslipped in PMs with me how can someone "townslip". by saying something townish without wanting to do so? what? and after a page or so posts about his masoning and how VE and BC are scum he just votes vanilla: On January 17 2012 13:53 Bill Murray wrote: oh shit rgshworz associative tell city i'm voting macpo Next post: On January 17 2012 20:20 Bill Murray wrote: I know Lanaia from IRC, if she's town she's a great scumhunter Jailing foolishness is a waste when he's definitely going to be protected by a doctor Wait what? I thought she's Lynch Lynch Lynch? Maybe I don't understand this post properly, correct me please, but he's saying he jailed her since she's good at hunting scum? if this is true, this post is funny (20 mins later): On January 17 2012 20:46 Bill Murray wrote: I could easily have prevented Lanaia from using a scum ability when I saw 3 KP, and L claimed Roleblocked, I thought it might have been the combination of the two saying again that Lanaia was jailed because of roleblocking, which only affects framer, med and the limited use of jac if I'm correct. a lot of contradiction here. so all in all, WBG is right. He's full of shit right now. Or insane. Or most likely scum. I'd be up for a lynch, if we reach enough people. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On January 18 2012 05:47 Toadesstern wrote: she's a null, maybe a slight town read for me. Looks to me like her "sry guys, I'm really not sure"-wishy-washy-town-meta. Which is almost precisely the same as her scum meta. Yeah, that totally gets us somewhere. When she's scum she refuses to talk about specific scum reads and lynches. This happened in XLVII and this game too. In Steamship she had some semblance of reads and wanted to kill people a couple of times, from what I remember. I'll look at the two games and see if I can confirm similarities. At any rate, since your defense is so atrocious I still have no problem killing you. Anyone have a town read on Toad? Speak soon! | ||
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Scamp
United States1086 Posts
Interesting. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 18 2012 05:51 wherebugsgo wrote: Which is almost precisely the same as her scum meta. Yeah, that totally gets us somewhere. When she's scum she refuses to talk about specific scum reads and lynches. This happened in XLVII and this game too. In Steamship she had some semblance of reads and wanted to kill people a couple of times, from what I remember. I'll look at the two games and see if I can confirm similarities. At any rate, since your defense is so atrocious I still have no problem killing you. Anyone have a town read on Toad? Speak soon! + Show Spoiler + On December 05 2011 07:13 Lanaia wrote: I have come to the conclusion I can't read Palmar worth a damn. I really hate it when I feel like that towards a person all the time. So it's probably a good idea to ignore me when it comes to Palmar, at least for now. However, I am eagerly awaiting his explanation on redff's case being terrible. QUOTE]On December 05 2011 09:04 Lanaia wrote: Radfield, right now I'm not sure. A lot of people still haven't posted yet. I'd probably lynch one of the lurkers, though. Damn, this seems to sound a lot like Toadesstern's response. On December 05 2011 12:10 Lanaia wrote: Agh, I'm not sure how to feel anymore, yet the game is young so I am okay with that. I know that I really don't like this post at all. I know other people have mentioned it, but it's really bothering me. Radfield, do you even think prplhz is scum? If so, why? If not, why are you still voting him? That's the kind of posts she does as townie. Taken from incogs game. To me it looks like the same she's done this game early on. But I never seen here scum game tbh. If it really is the same that makes her a null for me. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On January 18 2012 05:55 Scamp wrote: GGQ just voted without posting. Interesting. Have you even voted? Do you even have a scumread? Your filter is still full of the stuff I put in the toilet every morning at 8. | ||
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