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IMABUNNEH
United Kingdom1062 Posts
There was no coming to each others' defense, as he has said nothing in my defense. Hmm good point, that'll teach me to reread better. We still haven't heard from Skrammen though, and I still think Toad is dodgy. Since other than telling people they should post more posts, he hasn't really said anything. | ||
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hyshes
Belgium428 Posts
On October 31 2011 01:52 xsksc wrote: I'm gonna have to agree with risk.nuke about toad. Toad is the only person that appears suspicous to me so far. Sounds like scum trying to find blues. This actually passed also my mind. but in retrospec, you pointing this out might be dodgy as well.. | ||
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hyshes
Belgium428 Posts
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Drem903
United States100 Posts
On October 31 2011 05:04 IMABUNNEH wrote: Hmm good point, that'll teach me to reread better. We still haven't heard from Skrammen though, and I still think Toad is dodgy. Since other than telling people they should post more posts, he hasn't really said anything. Zanfada also has not posted at all since his initial accusation, so he should also be one to consider for now. | ||
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Skrammen
Norway195 Posts
On October 30 2011 14:42 Zanfada wrote: Day 1 it is very important not to let the mafia lurk and hide in the background. So we have to preasure them and force everyone to interact. If you look at the last mini mafia town lost because of inactivity. So we can't have anyone be inactive. I guess to get things start hacklebeast hasn't posted anything yet. so until he speaks up or a better target comes along ##Vote hacklebeast 4 hours into the game and you go on and try to stir some discussion up? He wasnt the only one who had said nothing up to that point, why did you choose him? It seems a little bit... Dodgy to use a vote to pressure someone into talking more so soon I think. And just a head's up: Since we have people from both sides of the pond in this game there is bound to be somewhat of a delay in answers and people might be working or sleeping when some discussions takes place. We should be somewhat tolerant of this, but obviously 24 hours of no posting is not good. | ||
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IMABUNNEH
United Kingdom1062 Posts
On October 31 2011 05:36 Drem903 wrote: Zanfada also has not posted at all since his initial accusation, so he should also be one to consider for now. Yeah. Maybe they were just trying to get the ball rolling, or maybe they were trying to start people recieving flak early on. I'd go out on a limb and put odds on at least one of them being scum. Still have a day before having to vote at least to gauge that one more though. | ||
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Erandorr
2283 Posts
On October 31 2011 05:25 hyshes wrote: Except for the players, who can post in this thread? No one in theory, but that does not stop some of the more experienced players to leave drops of .. wisdom? If you don't play, just do not post ^.^ | ||
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Zanfada
United States53 Posts
What was alot more interesting was Toad's post and how it was received. I personally think blues should post and help the town or they stand out to mafia and playing safe and become much better targets. Also mafia rarely mention blues for the simple fact that it makes them look more like mafia hunting for blues with any mention of blues. The same goes for blues themselves, they want to hide with town and do their job. I think Toad was just trying to prevent what happened last game to happen this game. However his post doesn't say anything more then "post guys" which doesn't further along any conversation it just increase his post count which in my opinion is all mafia try to do for the first day. On October 30 2011 22:54 hacklebeast wrote: Unnecessarily trying to start a town panic? Baseless accusing people that, under your own admission, have no evidence against? Sounds like very mafia things to do. I'm not going to go so far as to cast my vote yet, but I'm watching you. Besides, I could never have committed the crime. Gmarshal I could take or leave, but killing ponies? I don't have it in me to take out something this lovable. I wasn't starting a town panic, though it seems to have caused you to panic a little. Your response to my vote seems to be an emotional plea involving ponies and a FOS but little more then that. It seems as if you are trying to not draw any sort of attention to yourself even after a vote has already been placed on you. Normally I would take this as a scum tell but it seems more like a newbie tell then a mafia at this point. Then there is Ciryandor, he defended me and my baseless attack on someone. The only time I usually am defended is when scum are trying to buddy up with me. Or since he has played a few games he is just trying to let newbies know what I was doing. Still FOS for now. | ||
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hyshes
Belgium428 Posts
On October 31 2011 06:30 Zanfada wrote: I can take my vote back at any time. The vote was just there to promote talking which it did just that. What was alot more interesting was Toad's post and how it was received. I personally think blues should post and help the town or they stand out to mafia and playing safe and become much better targets. Also mafia rarely mention blues for the simple fact that it makes them look more like mafia hunting for blues with any mention of blues. The same goes for blues themselves, they want to hide with town and do their job. I think Toad was just trying to prevent what happened last game to happen this game. However his post doesn't say anything more then "post guys" which doesn't further along any conversation it just increase his post count which in my opinion is all mafia try to do for the first day. I wasn't starting a town panic, though it seems to have caused you to panic a little. Your response to my vote seems to be an emotional plea involving ponies and a FOS but little more then that. It seems as if you are trying to not draw any sort of attention to yourself even after a vote has already been placed on you. Normally I would take this as a scum tell but it seems more like a newbie tell then a mafia at this point. Then there is Ciryandor, he defended me and my baseless attack on someone. The only time I usually am defended is when scum are trying to buddy up with me. Or since he has played a few games he is just trying to let newbies know what I was doing. Still FOS for now. You tend to say very little with very much words.. That seems to me like you are overcompensating for the lack of conclusive arguments. | ||
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Chocolate
United States2350 Posts
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IMABUNNEH
United Kingdom1062 Posts
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hyshes
Belgium428 Posts
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Chocolate
United States2350 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=180405 Finger of suspicion | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On October 31 2011 00:47 risk.nuke wrote: I see, but that is unrelated hence your paranoia defense isn't very convincing.. You were just hinting dts and medics to reveal themselves. That is scummy. no the point is, that as a dt or medic you don't want to look like a dt or medic for mafia, because that would be an easy hint for them. So let's say we got 9 people and all of them are posting equally. In that case mafia will have a hard time figurering out who's a blue. If we got 9 people, 6 of them are talking a lot and 3 are not, mafia will have a slight clue and have to decide if it's a guy who just isn't playing this game activ or if it's a guy who does not want to get killed for some reason. I don't want to make a possible dt or medic stand out. I'm saying, that in my opinion posting nothing at all WILL make them stand out and vulnerable. Just take into consideration when I actually made that post: About the time when 4 of us haven't made a post in this thread. Maybe it's 3 I don't know but you get the idea. I just wanted to make sure that there's nobody thinking "oh crap I have to do as little posts as possible as a dt to not give away my secret identy" because that's what came to my mind last game (which was my first game) and I was a dt. I had to change it pretty soon :p Haven't read page 11, am reading right now and will maybe add something. This is just to clear up my "intentions" about that "make medics and dts" post. | ||
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HarbingerOfDoom
United States508 Posts
Skrammen has now doubled his post count, using his first to say good morning and his second accuses someone for trying to stir up discussion with a vote "so soon", as well as a preemptive excuse for not being active: And just a head's up: Since we have people from both sides of the pond in this game there is bound to be somewhat of a delay in answers and people might be working or sleeping when some discussions takes place. We should be somewhat tolerant of this, but obviously 24 hours of no posting is not good. The only people that benefit from a delayed discussion is obviously the mafia, they'd rather it never happen. Also, while his statement is true, I think it was fairly obvious to most people, and scum always like to have an excuse to fall back on. So FOS on Skrammen for now. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On October 31 2011 06:30 Zanfada wrote: Then there is Ciryandor, he defended me and my baseless attack on someone. The only time I usually am defended is when scum are trying to buddy up with me. Or since he has played a few games he is just trying to let newbies know what I was doing. Still FOS for now. Just to clear things up since you brought that statement last game too. Remember my summary last game? I defended you as well and said that I'm pretty sure you're town. Yeah I was a dt but I never checked you since I checked all 3 reds and still knew you where town. I just wanted to tell the other guy so because he might not find out himself. You told me that looks like scum too and I just got to disagree here. Right now I think you posting little is normal because I saw the last game while a few think it's scummy. A couple guys think I made a scummy post by telling dts not to look like dts and ciry said he doesn't think so, which is a defence for me as well and I haven't got something scummy from him until now. So I got to say that logic is flawed :p I still can't believe how that one guy thought I meant to make dts stand out of the crowd, looks a bit strange as if he wants to get town on someone, but that's just my opinion right now and I got to check what he posts the next couple days :p Ok and now I read that thing from chocolate as well. I want you to explain that. Why is it a fos on ciry. I could understand a fos on zanfa although I don't believe it's strange since it totally fits in his style. Well and ciry is the only guy who started a real discussion. Everyone spammed a bit to get something going at all an he went for real talks, like "explain your thoughts" and stuff and from what I see it looks like he is trying to get people to make quality posts rather than spam. Totally fits in his style as well. Go ahead, blame me for defending, which I still think is wrong at this point, but I want your explanation on this. We obviously got very little right now but given what we have there's definitly people around looking more scummy. | ||
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hyshes
Belgium428 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On October 31 2011 07:11 Toadesstern wrote: no the point is, that as a dt or medic you don't want to look like a dt or medic for mafia, because that would be an easy hint for them. So let's say we got 9 people and all of them are posting equally. In that case mafia will have a hard time figurering out who's a blue. If we got 9 people, 6 of them are talking a lot and 3 are not, mafia will have a slight clue and have to decide if it's a guy who just isn't playing this game activ or if it's a guy who does not want to get killed for some reason. I don't want to make a possible dt or medic stand out. I'm saying, that in my opinion posting nothing at all WILL make them stand out and vulnerable. Just take into consideration when I actually made that post: About the time when 4 of us haven't made a post in this thread. Maybe it's 3 I don't know but you get the idea. I just wanted to make sure that there's nobody thinking "oh crap I have to do as little posts as possible as a dt to not give away my secret identy" because that's what came to my mind last game (which was my first game) and I was a dt. I had to change it pretty soon :p Haven't read page 11, am reading right now and will maybe add something. This is just to clear up my "intentions" about that "make medics and dts" post. It lacks any sense whatsoever if you reflect it to his previous posts. He is either not explaining himself clearly or has an hidden agenda (read: he is scum) When does the first day ends? | ||
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Chocolate
United States2350 Posts
On October 31 2011 07:28 Toadesstern wrote: Ok and now I read that thing from chocolate as well. I want you to explain that. Why is it a fos on ciry. I could understand a fos on zanfa although I don't believe it's strange since it totally fits in his style. Well and ciry is the only guy who started a real discussion. Everyone spammed a bit to get something going at all an he went for real talks, like "explain your thoughts" and stuff and from what I see it looks like he is trying to get people to make quality posts rather than spam. Totally fits in his style as well. Go ahead, blame me for defending, which I still think is wrong at this point, but I want your explanation on this. We obviously got very little right now but given what we have there's definitly people around looking more scummy. If you are talking to me I explained why I fos'ed zanfa. However I am having trouble understanding your post, particularly who "you" is. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
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Chocolate
United States2350 Posts
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