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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 05 2013 14:08 GMT
#2081
On July 05 2013 23:06 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 22:59 JarJarDrinks wrote:
I think WoS is scum and I think it's a cheesy tactic and I wouldn't hate him forever.

You didn't answer my question though.
After playing scum with me and knowing how I play, you really think I would game host actions in my own favour and lie about them?

Also Vivax absolutely refuses to answer my questions to him.

Also I have no idea why I even bother posting but I'm clearly helping town here by asking all these questions. I guess it's just in my nature I guess, can't get away from scumhunting even when I'm not town.


Yeah, JJD you need to flat out answer WoS 'yes' to his face for any of this to fly.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 05 2013 14:08 GMT
#2082
On July 05 2013 18:46 marvellosity wrote:
Maybe you should ask the person who claims it's totally broken without any reasoning as to why it would be broken and despite an extremely experienced player offering his experience on setups earlier.

WaveofShadow - you should try to save a townie tonight, otherwise town can lynch you tomorrow without any repurcussions... if you get a save off though, then you get us an extra lynch.

Might actually be a decent idea to lynch WoS regardless. It'll be MYLO tomorrow and we don't have to worry about reducing KP anymore; and lynching the survivor wouldn't lose us the game, same as today. Also if WoS flips survivor then JJD is pretty much an auto-lynch the next day

PS Marv this is pretty stupid. Why would I make it easier for you guys to lynch me?
Hell I already made it pretty easy for you guys to lynch me.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 05 2013 14:09 GMT
#2083
On July 05 2013 23:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 18:46 marvellosity wrote:
Maybe you should ask the person who claims it's totally broken without any reasoning as to why it would be broken and despite an extremely experienced player offering his experience on setups earlier.

WaveofShadow - you should try to save a townie tonight, otherwise town can lynch you tomorrow without any repurcussions... if you get a save off though, then you get us an extra lynch.

Might actually be a decent idea to lynch WoS regardless. It'll be MYLO tomorrow and we don't have to worry about reducing KP anymore; and lynching the survivor wouldn't lose us the game, same as today. Also if WoS flips survivor then JJD is pretty much an auto-lynch the next day

PS Marv this is pretty stupid. Why would I make it easier for you guys to lynch me?
Hell I already made it pretty easy for you guys to lynch me.


You're not reading.

Making a save would DRAMATICALLY decrease the chances of town lynching you.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 05 2013 14:10 GMT
#2084
On July 05 2013 23:09 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 23:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 05 2013 18:46 marvellosity wrote:
Maybe you should ask the person who claims it's totally broken without any reasoning as to why it would be broken and despite an extremely experienced player offering his experience on setups earlier.

WaveofShadow - you should try to save a townie tonight, otherwise town can lynch you tomorrow without any repurcussions... if you get a save off though, then you get us an extra lynch.

Might actually be a decent idea to lynch WoS regardless. It'll be MYLO tomorrow and we don't have to worry about reducing KP anymore; and lynching the survivor wouldn't lose us the game, same as today. Also if WoS flips survivor then JJD is pretty much an auto-lynch the next day

PS Marv this is pretty stupid. Why would I make it easier for you guys to lynch me?
Hell I already made it pretty easy for you guys to lynch me.


You're not reading.

Making a save would DRAMATICALLY decrease the chances of town lynching you.

That's not true at all. Getting you an extra lynch makes it easier for you to lynch me so as to remove any of the lingering doubt that people seem to have regarding my non-alignment.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 05 2013 14:14 GMT
#2085
On July 05 2013 23:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 23:09 marvellosity wrote:
On July 05 2013 23:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 05 2013 18:46 marvellosity wrote:
Maybe you should ask the person who claims it's totally broken without any reasoning as to why it would be broken and despite an extremely experienced player offering his experience on setups earlier.

WaveofShadow - you should try to save a townie tonight, otherwise town can lynch you tomorrow without any repurcussions... if you get a save off though, then you get us an extra lynch.

Might actually be a decent idea to lynch WoS regardless. It'll be MYLO tomorrow and we don't have to worry about reducing KP anymore; and lynching the survivor wouldn't lose us the game, same as today. Also if WoS flips survivor then JJD is pretty much an auto-lynch the next day

PS Marv this is pretty stupid. Why would I make it easier for you guys to lynch me?
Hell I already made it pretty easy for you guys to lynch me.


You're not reading.

Making a save would DRAMATICALLY decrease the chances of town lynching you.

That's not true at all. Getting you an extra lynch makes it easier for you to lynch me so as to remove any of the lingering doubt that people seem to have regarding my non-alignment.

Only if we lynch 3 scum and the game isnt over.
No gg, No skill.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 05 2013 14:16 GMT
#2086
On July 05 2013 23:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 23:09 marvellosity wrote:
On July 05 2013 23:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 05 2013 18:46 marvellosity wrote:
Maybe you should ask the person who claims it's totally broken without any reasoning as to why it would be broken and despite an extremely experienced player offering his experience on setups earlier.

WaveofShadow - you should try to save a townie tonight, otherwise town can lynch you tomorrow without any repurcussions... if you get a save off though, then you get us an extra lynch.

Might actually be a decent idea to lynch WoS regardless. It'll be MYLO tomorrow and we don't have to worry about reducing KP anymore; and lynching the survivor wouldn't lose us the game, same as today. Also if WoS flips survivor then JJD is pretty much an auto-lynch the next day

PS Marv this is pretty stupid. Why would I make it easier for you guys to lynch me?
Hell I already made it pretty easy for you guys to lynch me.


You're not reading.

Making a save would DRAMATICALLY decrease the chances of town lynching you.

That's not true at all. Getting you an extra lynch makes it easier for you to lynch me so as to remove any of the lingering doubt that people seem to have regarding my non-alignment.


No. It's 6-2-1 now. If a NK goes through it's 5-2-1. At this point it's MYLO, except town can lynch you and we know we won't lose, but if we lynch a townie we lose. We don't have the incentive of reducing KP either.

If you make a save, it's still 6-2-1. And we have no incentive to lynch into you at all because it's not mylo.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 05 2013 14:18 GMT
#2087
On July 05 2013 23:16 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 23:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 05 2013 23:09 marvellosity wrote:
On July 05 2013 23:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 05 2013 18:46 marvellosity wrote:
Maybe you should ask the person who claims it's totally broken without any reasoning as to why it would be broken and despite an extremely experienced player offering his experience on setups earlier.

WaveofShadow - you should try to save a townie tonight, otherwise town can lynch you tomorrow without any repurcussions... if you get a save off though, then you get us an extra lynch.

Might actually be a decent idea to lynch WoS regardless. It'll be MYLO tomorrow and we don't have to worry about reducing KP anymore; and lynching the survivor wouldn't lose us the game, same as today. Also if WoS flips survivor then JJD is pretty much an auto-lynch the next day

PS Marv this is pretty stupid. Why would I make it easier for you guys to lynch me?
Hell I already made it pretty easy for you guys to lynch me.


You're not reading.

Making a save would DRAMATICALLY decrease the chances of town lynching you.

That's not true at all. Getting you an extra lynch makes it easier for you to lynch me so as to remove any of the lingering doubt that people seem to have regarding my non-alignment.


No. It's 6-2-1 now. If a NK goes through it's 5-2-1. At this point it's MYLO, except town can lynch you and we know we won't lose, but if we lynch a townie we lose. We don't have the incentive of reducing KP either.

If you make a save, it's still 6-2-1. And we have no incentive to lynch into you at all because it's not mylo.

It's not MYLO at 5-2-1.
mislynch--> 4-2-1
NK--> 3-2-1
LYLO
You're assuming I vote with scum at LYLO when I have no clue who they are and can't coordinate.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 05 2013 14:21 GMT
#2088
I assume you vote with scum at lylo if they claim
No gg, No skill.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 05 2013 14:23 GMT
#2089
On July 05 2013 23:18 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 23:16 marvellosity wrote:
On July 05 2013 23:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 05 2013 23:09 marvellosity wrote:
On July 05 2013 23:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 05 2013 18:46 marvellosity wrote:
Maybe you should ask the person who claims it's totally broken without any reasoning as to why it would be broken and despite an extremely experienced player offering his experience on setups earlier.

WaveofShadow - you should try to save a townie tonight, otherwise town can lynch you tomorrow without any repurcussions... if you get a save off though, then you get us an extra lynch.

Might actually be a decent idea to lynch WoS regardless. It'll be MYLO tomorrow and we don't have to worry about reducing KP anymore; and lynching the survivor wouldn't lose us the game, same as today. Also if WoS flips survivor then JJD is pretty much an auto-lynch the next day

PS Marv this is pretty stupid. Why would I make it easier for you guys to lynch me?
Hell I already made it pretty easy for you guys to lynch me.


You're not reading.

Making a save would DRAMATICALLY decrease the chances of town lynching you.

That's not true at all. Getting you an extra lynch makes it easier for you to lynch me so as to remove any of the lingering doubt that people seem to have regarding my non-alignment.


No. It's 6-2-1 now. If a NK goes through it's 5-2-1. At this point it's MYLO, except town can lynch you and we know we won't lose, but if we lynch a townie we lose. We don't have the incentive of reducing KP either.

If you make a save, it's still 6-2-1. And we have no incentive to lynch into you at all because it's not mylo.

It's not MYLO at 5-2-1.
mislynch--> 4-2-1
NK--> 3-2-1
LYLO
You're assuming I vote with scum at LYLO when I have no clue who they are and can't coordinate.


It is MYLO. At 3-2-1 you say "we can guarantee victory for both factions if we vote together" and the game is over.

Stop being obtuse.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 05 2013 14:24 GMT
#2090
On July 05 2013 23:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
I assume you vote with scum at lylo if they claim

Given how they've played so far I don't know if I'd trust that.
What's to stop town from fakeclaiming mafia at that point if it comes down to me winning/losing the game for someone?
Hell it might not even be over at LYLO if you consider what roles are left (if they truly exist).

Sorry town. It's night and right now mafia are in control and I don't feel like dying (though I'm pretty sure I will anyway).
You may as well treat me like a very unhelpful VT for now.
So....Grush?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 05 2013 14:26 GMT
#2091
On July 05 2013 23:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 23:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
I assume you vote with scum at lylo if they claim

Given how they've played so far I don't know if I'd trust that.
What's to stop town from fakeclaiming mafia at that point if it comes down to me winning/losing the game for someone?
Hell it might not even be over at LYLO if you consider what roles are left (if they truly exist).

Sorry town. It's night and right now mafia are in control and I don't feel like dying (though I'm pretty sure I will anyway).
You may as well treat me like a very unhelpful VT for now.
So....Grush?


Um, because the townies want to vote for mafia and the mafia want to vote for a townie and it'll be really obvious?

Looks like the safe option is to lynch you tomorrow after all.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 05 2013 14:29 GMT
#2092
On July 05 2013 23:26 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 23:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 05 2013 23:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
I assume you vote with scum at lylo if they claim

Given how they've played so far I don't know if I'd trust that.
What's to stop town from fakeclaiming mafia at that point if it comes down to me winning/losing the game for someone?
Hell it might not even be over at LYLO if you consider what roles are left (if they truly exist).

Sorry town. It's night and right now mafia are in control and I don't feel like dying (though I'm pretty sure I will anyway).
You may as well treat me like a very unhelpful VT for now.
So....Grush?


Um, because the townies want to vote for mafia and the mafia want to vote for a townie and it'll be really obvious?

Looks like the safe option is to lynch you tomorrow after all.

Probably always was since mafia don't have 2 KP anymore.
Hence the 'I'm fucked' attitude.
Had to save myself by getting scum lynched and now town has the advantage so they kill me with it. Pretty simple.

I have zero guarantees that me using my JK to help town won't get me lynched at a later date and if I DO start using it to help town, scum treats me as town JK and offs me.
Pretty simple.



Fucked.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 05 2013 14:30 GMT
#2093
JJD looks terrible for shit like:

On July 04 2013 01:46 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Well whatever he is, he isn't town

##vote: WoS


This was after he'd spent all of his posts telling us lynching fuba was the right play. fuba at this point is still definitely not town, and yet he puts his vote on WoS instead of fuba.

This was also exceptionally dodgy:

On July 03 2013 02:46 JarJarDrinks wrote:
I agree w/ rayns assesment and also agree that vig should shoot into lazr/marv tonight


On July 03 2013 06:07 JarJarDrinks wrote:
OK I'm flip-flopping again and don't think vig should shoot @ marv/lazr tonight. I'm actually kinda upset that all this was brought up cause was totally gonna post @ the deadline that there's no way marv and lazrr should be alive after tonight. But now that's all wifom.

[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 05 2013 14:31 GMT
#2094
On July 05 2013 23:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 23:26 marvellosity wrote:
On July 05 2013 23:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 05 2013 23:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
I assume you vote with scum at lylo if they claim

Given how they've played so far I don't know if I'd trust that.
What's to stop town from fakeclaiming mafia at that point if it comes down to me winning/losing the game for someone?
Hell it might not even be over at LYLO if you consider what roles are left (if they truly exist).

Sorry town. It's night and right now mafia are in control and I don't feel like dying (though I'm pretty sure I will anyway).
You may as well treat me like a very unhelpful VT for now.
So....Grush?


Um, because the townies want to vote for mafia and the mafia want to vote for a townie and it'll be really obvious?

Looks like the safe option is to lynch you tomorrow after all.

Probably always was since mafia don't have 2 KP anymore.
Hence the 'I'm fucked' attitude.
Had to save myself by getting scum lynched and now town has the advantage so they kill me with it. Pretty simple.

I have zero guarantees that me using my JK to help town won't get me lynched at a later date and if I DO start using it to help town, scum treats me as town JK and offs me.
Pretty simple.



Fucked.


You have zero control over scum shooting you, but quite a good chance of getting town not to lynch you. It's pretty simple.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 05 2013 14:33 GMT
#2095
By the way, if scum shoots you and not a townie, scum are giving town an extra mislynch.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 05 2013 14:35 GMT
#2096
In other words, not a chance scum are going to shoot you when killing a townie gets town into MYLO.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 05 2013 14:35 GMT
#2097
On July 05 2013 23:31 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 23:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 05 2013 23:26 marvellosity wrote:
On July 05 2013 23:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 05 2013 23:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
I assume you vote with scum at lylo if they claim

Given how they've played so far I don't know if I'd trust that.
What's to stop town from fakeclaiming mafia at that point if it comes down to me winning/losing the game for someone?
Hell it might not even be over at LYLO if you consider what roles are left (if they truly exist).

Sorry town. It's night and right now mafia are in control and I don't feel like dying (though I'm pretty sure I will anyway).
You may as well treat me like a very unhelpful VT for now.
So....Grush?


Um, because the townies want to vote for mafia and the mafia want to vote for a townie and it'll be really obvious?

Looks like the safe option is to lynch you tomorrow after all.

Probably always was since mafia don't have 2 KP anymore.
Hence the 'I'm fucked' attitude.
Had to save myself by getting scum lynched and now town has the advantage so they kill me with it. Pretty simple.

I have zero guarantees that me using my JK to help town won't get me lynched at a later date and if I DO start using it to help town, scum treats me as town JK and offs me.
Pretty simple.



Fucked.


You have zero control over scum shooting you, but quite a good chance of getting town not to lynch you. It's pretty simple.

Well you'll see what my decision was in a few hours anyway, won't you?
lol I could lie about my protecting someone as well since people don't get notified by RB and it would be the exact same thing as if I 'missed' the NK target. I could agree to protect someone and you guys could just say that I lied anyway if you wanted to lynch me.

Don't act like I have some sort of guarantee from town either.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 05 2013 14:36 GMT
#2098
Who said you had a guarantee? It's just basic logic that if it's MYLO compared to not-MYLO, we have very little incentive to lynch in to you.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
July 05 2013 14:36 GMT
#2099
On July 05 2013 23:33 marvellosity wrote:
By the way, if scum shoots you and not a townie, scum are giving town an extra mislynch.

I'm well aware. Technically both teams should be ignoring me right now but I can't exactly count on either of you guys to make the mathematically right play now, can I?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 05 2013 14:36 GMT
#2100
That should be the other way round, but yeah.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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