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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
July 05 2013 14:37 GMT
#2101
On July 05 2013 23:36 marvellosity wrote:
Who said you had a guarantee? It's just basic logic that if it's MYLO compared to not-MYLO, we have very little incentive to lynch in to you.

I've already explained the incentive. There are people who still doubt that I'm survivor. That's incentive enough, and not-MYLO makes that much easier.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 05 2013 14:37 GMT
#2102
On July 05 2013 23:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 23:33 marvellosity wrote:
By the way, if scum shoots you and not a townie, scum are giving town an extra mislynch.

I'm well aware. Technically both teams should be ignoring me right now but I can't exactly count on either of you guys to make the mathematically right play now, can I?


The mathematically right play is for scum to shoot town.

If scum get their shot through, mathematically it's a pretty decent play to lynch you. If scum don't, mathematically it isn't.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
July 05 2013 14:39 GMT
#2103
On July 05 2013 23:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 23:31 marvellosity wrote:
On July 05 2013 23:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 05 2013 23:26 marvellosity wrote:
On July 05 2013 23:24 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 05 2013 23:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
I assume you vote with scum at lylo if they claim

Given how they've played so far I don't know if I'd trust that.
What's to stop town from fakeclaiming mafia at that point if it comes down to me winning/losing the game for someone?
Hell it might not even be over at LYLO if you consider what roles are left (if they truly exist).

Sorry town. It's night and right now mafia are in control and I don't feel like dying (though I'm pretty sure I will anyway).
You may as well treat me like a very unhelpful VT for now.
So....Grush?


Um, because the townies want to vote for mafia and the mafia want to vote for a townie and it'll be really obvious?

Looks like the safe option is to lynch you tomorrow after all.

Probably always was since mafia don't have 2 KP anymore.
Hence the 'I'm fucked' attitude.
Had to save myself by getting scum lynched and now town has the advantage so they kill me with it. Pretty simple.

I have zero guarantees that me using my JK to help town won't get me lynched at a later date and if I DO start using it to help town, scum treats me as town JK and offs me.
Pretty simple.



Fucked.


You have zero control over scum shooting you, but quite a good chance of getting town not to lynch you. It's pretty simple.

Well you'll see what my decision was in a few hours anyway, won't you?
lol I could lie about my protecting someone as well since people don't get notified by RB and it would be the exact same thing as if I 'missed' the NK target. I could agree to protect someone and you guys could just say that I lied anyway if you wanted to lynch me.

Don't act like I have some sort of guarantee from town either.
Just tell us during the last hour of the night who you saved. But really you are just being stupid now. Just save someone you think is town. Not me ofc but then again I'm not sure you even think that I am town.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
July 05 2013 14:39 GMT
#2104
On July 05 2013 23:37 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 23:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 05 2013 23:33 marvellosity wrote:
By the way, if scum shoots you and not a townie, scum are giving town an extra mislynch.

I'm well aware. Technically both teams should be ignoring me right now but I can't exactly count on either of you guys to make the mathematically right play now, can I?


The mathematically right play is for scum to shoot town.

If scum get their shot through, mathematically it's a pretty decent play to lynch you. If scum don't, mathematically it isn't.

But is it the BEST play?
No, it isn't.
That's why I can't trust either of you guys right now.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 05 2013 14:41 GMT
#2105
On July 05 2013 23:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 23:37 marvellosity wrote:
On July 05 2013 23:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 05 2013 23:33 marvellosity wrote:
By the way, if scum shoots you and not a townie, scum are giving town an extra mislynch.

I'm well aware. Technically both teams should be ignoring me right now but I can't exactly count on either of you guys to make the mathematically right play now, can I?


The mathematically right play is for scum to shoot town.

If scum get their shot through, mathematically it's a pretty decent play to lynch you. If scum don't, mathematically it isn't.

But is it the BEST play?
No, it isn't.
That's why I can't trust either of you guys right now.


It is the best play if we don't have a guaranteed scum lynch.

You're spouting bullshit on the basis that you expect agents to act irrationally. That's just nonsense.

Rationally scum will not shoot you, and town will definitely not lynch you if you make a save, but could well lynch you if you don't.

There's only one scenario where YOUR action makes a difference.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
July 05 2013 14:44 GMT
#2106
On July 05 2013 23:41 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 23:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 05 2013 23:37 marvellosity wrote:
On July 05 2013 23:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 05 2013 23:33 marvellosity wrote:
By the way, if scum shoots you and not a townie, scum are giving town an extra mislynch.

I'm well aware. Technically both teams should be ignoring me right now but I can't exactly count on either of you guys to make the mathematically right play now, can I?


The mathematically right play is for scum to shoot town.

If scum get their shot through, mathematically it's a pretty decent play to lynch you. If scum don't, mathematically it isn't.

But is it the BEST play?
No, it isn't.
That's why I can't trust either of you guys right now.


It is the best play if we don't have a guaranteed scum lynch.

You're spouting bullshit on the basis that you expect agents to act irrationally. That's just nonsense.

Rationally scum will not shoot you, and town will definitely not lynch you if you make a save, but could well lynch you if you don't.

There's only one scenario where YOUR action makes a difference.

I'm not spouting bullshit. You don't speak for the town; there are 7 other people who can vote right now other than you and me. And who's to say if I start acting for town scum don't shoot me even if it's irrational 'cuz dey mad at me and wanna be all vindictive? 'If we don't win neither do you!'
It's an impossible scenario for me, marv. If people acted rationally in mafia all of the time the game just wouldn't be as fun now, would it?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 05 2013 14:47 GMT
#2107
On July 05 2013 23:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 05 2013 23:41 marvellosity wrote:
On July 05 2013 23:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 05 2013 23:37 marvellosity wrote:
On July 05 2013 23:36 WaveofShadow wrote:
On July 05 2013 23:33 marvellosity wrote:
By the way, if scum shoots you and not a townie, scum are giving town an extra mislynch.

I'm well aware. Technically both teams should be ignoring me right now but I can't exactly count on either of you guys to make the mathematically right play now, can I?


The mathematically right play is for scum to shoot town.

If scum get their shot through, mathematically it's a pretty decent play to lynch you. If scum don't, mathematically it isn't.

But is it the BEST play?
No, it isn't.
That's why I can't trust either of you guys right now.


It is the best play if we don't have a guaranteed scum lynch.

You're spouting bullshit on the basis that you expect agents to act irrationally. That's just nonsense.

Rationally scum will not shoot you, and town will definitely not lynch you if you make a save, but could well lynch you if you don't.

There's only one scenario where YOUR action makes a difference.

I'm not spouting bullshit. You don't speak for the town; there are 7 other people who can vote right now other than you and me. And who's to say if I start acting for town scum don't shoot me even if it's irrational 'cuz dey mad at me and wanna be all vindictive? 'If we don't win neither do you!'
It's an impossible scenario for me, marv. If people acted rationally in mafia all of the time the game just wouldn't be as fun now, would it?


Again, you're spouting bullshit based on agents acting irrationally. This is mafia, there's no guarantees of anything, but there's pretty clearly defined payoffs based on events occurring. The fact you keep arguing against this makes you look stupid at the very least.

"who's to say scum won't jeapordise their chances of winning for giggles?" - noone, but it's dumb.
"there are 7 other people who can vote right now other than you" - and only one wants to lynch you.

Again, you have one action that could qualitatively improve your chances of winning, and that's making a save.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 05 2013 14:49 GMT
#2108
Anyway maybe you're just mistakenly pretending to cover your ass, I don't think you're this blind to basic logic and reason.

Carry on.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
July 05 2013 14:50 GMT
#2109
lol I fucking dare anyone to doubt that I'm survivor now though.
JJD, where you at bro? Is this my scumgame????
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Lazermonkey
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden2176 Posts
July 05 2013 14:50 GMT
#2110
WoS, just shut up please, nothing you say makes sense.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
July 05 2013 14:51 GMT
#2111
On July 05 2013 23:50 Lazermonkey wrote:
WoS, just shut up please, nothing you say makes sense.

<3 u 2 qt
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 05 2013 14:52 GMT
#2112
lol burn
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 05 2013 14:56 GMT
#2113
Scum has zero reason to shoot you WoS. It's pretty obvious.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 05 2013 14:56 GMT
#2114
Please don't tell me that's the sum total of your catching up, Stutters.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 05 2013 15:25 GMT
#2115
Nah, dog. That's just the beginning. I was actually typing up a post on this subject but I didn't want to give scum a guideline to actually winning if they were dumb enough to take the n1 shots they did.

What would you like me to talk about qtpi?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 05 2013 15:26 GMT
#2116
Whatever you see fit to talk about dear. And where you were for the day 1 lynch when fuba was on the block.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
July 05 2013 15:28 GMT
#2117
On July 06 2013 00:25 Stutters695 wrote:
Nah, dog. That's just the beginning. I was actually typing up a post on this subject but I didn't want to give scum a guideline to actually winning if they were dumb enough to take the n1 shots they did.

What would you like me to talk about qtpi?

ohai Stutters, welcome to da game!
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
July 05 2013 15:55 GMT
#2118
I was at work, posting when I could between deliveries. I'd been doing what I could to get Fuba lynched earlier in the day with no success so when I settled on Lazer I was popping in to try and keep up but it was way too hectic.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
July 05 2013 16:07 GMT
#2119
Come stutters, show us whos scum!

I dunno marv, the thing with me about JJD, is that all his stuff is REALLY BLATANT. Like its a hard defence of fuba and hard attack on WoS.
No gg, No skill.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
July 05 2013 16:08 GMT
#2120
On July 06 2013 01:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
Come stutters, show us whos scum!

I dunno marv, the thing with me about JJD, is that all his stuff is REALLY BLATANT. Like its a hard defence of fuba and hard attack on WoS.


No that's the thing, he didn't hard-defend fuba at all. He was attacking fuba for much of the day before suddenly dropping him in favour of WoS.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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