Ok I'm back. Everyone calm down. Please play nice and stop the name calling and cursing immediately or there will be modkills. Cut the spam too. (Looking specifically at Palmar/redFF)

TruthBringer

United States578 Posts

December 10 2011 00:36 GMT

#2063

Well, I don't think prplhz was the best shot per se, but I understand where both Toad and annul were coming from. Annul was under a lot of suspicion. It looks worse if he shoots a townie than if the "most townie" regarded player decides who he kills. As for Toad, well, suddenly a lot of responsibility was thrust upon him, so he wanted to do something that he felt had support from others. In this case, he was trusting Radfield's judgment.

Mattchew

United States5684 Posts

December 10 2011 00:37 GMT

#2064

On December 10 2011 09:29 Incognito wrote:
Ok I'm back. Everyone calm down. Please play nice and stop the name calling and cursing immediately or there will be modkills.

so many warnings

annul

United States2841 Posts

December 10 2011 01:29 GMT

#2065

On December 10 2011 09:37 Mattchew wrote:

Show nested quote +

so many warnings

its because modkills break the game, so theres no need to blow the game up for stupid reasons like being too thin-skinned. cheating? sure. inactivity? sure. but being too aggressive? grow some nuts imo

Qatol

United States3165 Posts

December 10 2011 01:49 GMT

#2066

On December 10 2011 10:29 annul wrote:

Show nested quote +

There's a point where you're just making the game not fun for the other players. And when posting like that isn't accomplishing anything anymore other than making everyone else angry/disgusted with the game, the mod needs to intervene. It has nothing to do with being thin-skinned and everything to do with pointless aggression which has no place in the game.

kingjames01

Canada1603 Posts

December 10 2011 02:06 GMT

#2067

I do condone the use of aggression as a tool to gain information though. However, I don't think that the players in this current game are doing it well...

Radfield

Canada2720 Posts

December 10 2011 03:16 GMT

#2068

OK, I have very little to add right now.

My feelings on annul are very strange. His play, and his actions point towards him being scum, yet there are little niggles that make me think he is town. Stuff like this:

On December 09 2011 12:20 annul wrote:
huh

v7 that actually makes a lot of sense.

maybe palmar isnt red after all

On December 09 2011 12:22 annul wrote:
lynching town gets us to lylo faster

no lynch >>>>>>>>>>> town lynch

But maybe it's just me being dumb. My brain is telling me to lynch annul, my gut tells me not to. In almost all cases my brain is more correct than my gut.

If someone shoots annul tonight that would make life unbelievably easier for town. Even if he flips town it means that almost all the non-contributors on that wagon are scum.

If anyone has any questions for me I suggest you ask them in the next 45 minutes.

kingjames01

Canada1603 Posts

December 10 2011 03:43 GMT

#2069

I have a feeling that I'm going to die tonight. I'm one of the few players who is actually attempting to exert pressure back on the mafia rather than to fumble around pointing fingers.

If I do end up dying, please take a look at my posts and I wish you the best!

Radfield

Canada2720 Posts

December 10 2011 03:49 GMT

#2070

That would surprise me Kingjames

But yeah, you're probably less likely to be mafia than I previously thought.

Radfield

Canada2720 Posts

December 10 2011 03:55 GMT

#2071

Upon rereading truthbringers filter, I think he is probably town. He has a lot of "scummy" comments, but I they are often over the top scummy, which leads me to believe they are red-herrings.

His general posting seems pretty decent.

Radfield

Canada2720 Posts

December 10 2011 03:58 GMT

#2072

I also think jackal is scum, I'm even willing to build a case this time(aren't you happy jackal). However Palmar disagrees, so I'd like to hear his thoughts if we both make it through.

Barbiero

Brazil5259 Posts

December 10 2011 03:59 GMT

#2073

On December 10 2011 12:49 Radfield wrote:
That would surprise me Kingjames

But yeah, you're probably less likely to be mafia than I previously thought.

ditto.

Also, waiting for night to end~

Then I'll know if I can continue with what I said previously tonight for sure.

wherebugsgo

Japan10647 Posts

December 10 2011 04:00 GMT

#2074

Day 3

When in Russia, do what the Russians do. Radfield finally saw the wisdom of the saying, but only after he was strangled, poisoned, shot four times, and beaten before finally dying by drowning.

Radfield the Townie is dead

It is now Day 3. As usual, please post your votes both in this thread and the voting thread. The deadline for the Day 3 lynch is Sunday, December 11, at 8PM PST (1300 KST).

With 19 alive, it takes 10 to lynch.

Barbiero

Brazil5259 Posts

December 10 2011 04:01 GMT

#2075

Well, that destroyed every single theory I had LOL

Radfield

Canada2720 Posts

December 10 2011 04:01 GMT

#2076

BAM, coulda called that one.

GG guys and gals.

redFF

United States3910 Posts

December 10 2011 04:19 GMT

#2077

##Vote Palmar

Palmar can you use your vote to enact a double lynch by voting 2 people at the same time?

Barbiero

Brazil5259 Posts

December 10 2011 04:27 GMT

#2078

Well, it seems nobody else is online/caring atm.

So, analyzing it. The post says he was... strangled, poisoned, shot four times, beaten and THEN drowned.
There is no kill like overkill heh

There was only one kill as well in contrast to the two from night 1. Unless someone claims to have been protected, I guess it's safe to assume that Rad was stacked; which means mafia really wanted him dead.

Look for cases he was pushing. If mafia wanted to kill someone with cred, they'd target Toads. If they stacked Radfield, they were scared of him, because he was making sense.

Of course, all of this is true only if Rad was stacked; if a medic tried to protect him, it's a good idea to claim that IMO(unless, ofc, you want to remain anonymous for now).

Bad news(for me) is that all my gut feelings were completely wrong and I can't trust myself anymore.
Good news is that I'll be able to confirm Palmar's alignment. Palmar is town

I'll claim it. I am a Parity Cop, which means I can chose a person per night, and the result of my investigation will be "Same" or "Different", according to the investigation from the last night. Night 1, I get 'No Result'.

Night 1 I chose Palmar to investigate, as he would be my comparative to night 2. He is my strongest town read atm, so I assume it wwas a good idea.
Night 2 I chose Radfield because I thought he was mafia, so a 'Different' would basically tell me he is mafia. Obviously, it is not the case; however, the investigation will provide me "Same" or "Different", which means I'll know the exact alignment of Palmar as we know that Refallen is green.

My investigation provided me "Same", therefore, Palmar is 100% town.
I'd say that should clear any issues of "Palmar is scum" that any player may have yet. Palmar is our ally, and we can at least trust that he is playing for us.

If you have any doubts about this, please check my first post on the game, precisely the last line. I told you I'd find out who is enemy of who - alignments of players in relation of others.

Also, since Palmar is town, is it safe to assume that annul is scum?

redFF

United States3910 Posts

December 10 2011 04:41 GMT

#2079

##Unvote
not sure how its safe to assume annul is scum if palmar is town. if you were wrong why couldn't he be?

i should reread.

vaderseven

United States2556 Posts

December 10 2011 05:01 GMT

#2080

The combination of, what appeared at least, very true anger and frustration, coupled with my view of how this setup works, had already confirmed Palmar as town in my mind.

I used no ability last night.

I am pretty sure that most of the loud parts of this game have actually all been town. I am going into this day thinking that both annul and palmar are town.