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Race distribution in 1st '07 Prelims,Survivor&ODT

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SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-01 12:33:21
April 30 2007 10:44 GMT
#1
Update: Total and offline prelim player pools were wrong. They have been fixed.

Prompted by Mynock's post in the Power Rank discussion.

On April 30 2007 18:07 Mynock wrote:
Where does the idea that balanced maps should bring us equal amount of players per race come from? Is it a presupposition that equal amount of players per race entered the pool in the first place? Has anybody counted the racial distribution on each stage of the two leagues? That is the T-Z-P ratio from before the offline prelims up to the winner of a league. Would be interesting I think.


So here we go.


2007 1st OSL

Total Player Pool

223 Players
Terran: 76 (34.1%)
Zerg: 83 (37.2%)
Protoss: 64 (28.7%)


PSL (OSL offline prelims)

199 Players
Terran: 63 (31.7%)
Zerg: 74 (37.2%)
Protoss: 62 (31.2%)

Qualified: 28 Players
Terran: 12 (42.9%)
Zerg: 7 (25%)
Protoss: 9 (32.1%)


ODT

48 Players
Terran: 22 (45.8%)
Zerg: 15 (31.3%)
Protoss: 11 (22.9%)

Qualified: 12 Players
Terran: 7 (58.3%)
Zerg: 2 (16.7%)
Protoss: 3 (25%)


OSL

16 Players
Terran: 10 (62.5%)
Zerg: 3 (18.8%)
Protoss: 3 (18.8%)


(Percentages are rounded, so don't whine if they add up to 100.1% =P)

The map pool for both PSL and ODT was:
HitchHiker, Neo Arkanoid, Longinus II


Btw, thanks to Haji, rinizim, and Altair @ PGR21 for making this post incredibly easy.



2007 GOM TV Season 2 MSL

Total Player Pool
Offline Prelims + 16 (7T/4Z/5P, 4 Seeded from MSL + 12 Qualified from previous Survivor League) + 8 (3T/4Z/1P Seeded in Survivor Tournament from previous Survivor League)

220 Players
Terran: 76 (34.5%)
Zerg: 82 (37.2%)
Protoss: 62 (28.2%)


MSL Offline Preliminaries

196 Players
Terran: 66 (33.7%)
Zerg: 74 (37.8%)
Protoss: 56 (28.6%)

24 Qualified
Terran: 12 (50%)
Zerg: 7 (29.2%)
Protoss: 5 (20.8%)


Survivor Tournament

32 Players
Terran: 15 (46.9%)
Zerg: 11 (34.4%)
Protoss: 6 (18.8%)

16 Qualified
Terran: 10 (62.5%)
Zerg: 3 (18.8%)
Protoss: 3 (18.8%)


MSL

32 Players
Terran: 17 (53.1%)
Zerg: 7 (21.9%)
Protoss: 8 (25%)


Map pool for MSL Offline Prelims and Survivor Tournament:
Reverse Lost Temple, Longinus II, Blitz X


Sources
Survivor League Schedule (last) by Live2Win
MSL Offline Preliminaries Statistics by Altair @ PGR21
New MSL Format by Live2Win
MSL Offline Preliminaries by Live2Win
Survivor Tournament Draw by Live2Win
GOM TV 2 MSL Results and Standings by jkillashark
These MSL Offline Preliminary player lists: 1, 2, 3
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
April 30 2007 10:45 GMT
#2
terran is gay
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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
April 30 2007 10:47 GMT
#3
protoss is weak
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Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
April 30 2007 10:47 GMT
#4
Nice work, Sonuvbob.

On April 30 2007 19:45 Carnac wrote:
terran is gay


Werd up. Carnac you play Protoss, yes?
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Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
April 30 2007 10:49 GMT
#5
Terran: 98 (43.4%)
sup tosses
Spartan
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States2030 Posts
April 30 2007 10:50 GMT
#6
Agreed.
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funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
April 30 2007 10:50 GMT
#7
I thought this was going to be a thread about etnic races like Asian, Hispanic and stuff.

Guess not.
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SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
April 30 2007 10:51 GMT
#8
Korean: 100%
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infinity21 *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada6683 Posts
April 30 2007 10:52 GMT
#9
On April 30 2007 19:50 funKie wrote:
I thought this was going to be a thread about etnic races like Asian, Hispanic and stuff.

Guess not.

haha that's what I thought too

But seriously, what's up with Zergs lately?
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20665 Posts
April 30 2007 10:53 GMT
#10
poor zerg D:

terran IS gay.
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
April 30 2007 10:53 GMT
#11
If someone wants to do the same for MSL, I'll gladly stick it in the OP and claim it as my own.
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Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
April 30 2007 10:55 GMT
#12
Humm, this is indeed interesting. It shows that T is actually the predominant choice nowadays among Korean progamers and progamer-wannabes. It also shows that relatively, more P than T have qualified from the PSL. It also shows that, regardless of their relatively numerous initial presence, Z are the losers this season in terms of qualification.

Of course given the slight (and standard) assumption of T>Z>P>T this makes sense.

More, and also more detailed stats could reveal other interesting things, but for now, thanks SonuvBob, nice job!

-Mynock
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
April 30 2007 10:55 GMT
#13
.....so i took the title as literal racial distribution and was like "wtf 100% korean duh!"...i think i leveled down
HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
April 30 2007 10:56 GMT
#14
On April 30 2007 19:51 SonuvBob wrote:
Korean: 100%


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Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
April 30 2007 10:57 GMT
#15
Terran = gay
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20665 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-04-30 10:58:57
April 30 2007 10:57 GMT
#16
On April 30 2007 19:50 funKie wrote:
I thought this was going to be a thread about etnic races like Asian, Hispanic and stuff.

Guess not.


I can do that easy.

Total Player Pool
Asian (Korean) 224 99.11%
Asian (Chinese) 1 .44%
White (Polish) 1 .44%

PSL
Asian (Korean) 200 99.01%
Asian (Chinese) 1 .48%
White (Polish) 1 .48%

Qualified
Asian (Korean) 28 100%

ODT
Asian (Korean) 48 100%

Qualified
Asian (Korean) 12 100%

OSL
Asian (Korean) 16 100%
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SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
April 30 2007 11:00 GMT
#17
Ah yeah, I forgot about those two. Half a percent each!
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Mynock
Profile Joined September 2002
4492 Posts
April 30 2007 11:01 GMT
#18
On April 30 2007 19:57 Last Romantic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2007 19:50 funKie wrote:
I thought this was going to be a thread about etnic races like Asian, Hispanic and stuff.

Guess not.


I can do that easy.

Total Player Pool
Asian (Korean) 224 99.11%
Asian (Chinese) 1 .44%
White (Polish) 1 .44%

PSL
Asian (Korean) 200 99.01%
Asian (Chinese) 1 .48%
White (Polish) 1 .48%

Qualified
Asian (Korean) 28 100%

ODT
Asian (Korean) 48 100%

Qualified
Asian (Korean) 12 100%

OSL
Asian (Korean) 16 100%


Interesting statistics.

There's something about those stats that makes me think Koreans are very good at StarCraft, but I can't quite put my finger on it... Needs more analysis...

-Mynock
Polemarch
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada1564 Posts
April 30 2007 11:03 GMT
#19
ouch, poor zergs. pvz/zvp and tvz/zvt are the best to watch (better than pvt/tvp and the mirrors imo)... starcraft would be nowhere near as good without the zerg race.

and just last year zerg was like raping it up, sheesh.

one other thing to consider though is that people choose the race they have the most success with, so the initial percentages for the player base aren't really objective either... the fact that there's 43% terrans could mean that terran is slightly imba. i don't really have a point to that other than that some conclusions are hard to draw.
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SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21550 Posts
April 30 2007 11:03 GMT
#20
Mods feel free to change the thread title if it'll stop the lame jokes.
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