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statix
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States1760 Posts
November 09 2005 01:30 GMT
#1
so micro is unit control and macro is the ability to keep your money down and spend it wisely?

if im wrong plz correct me
SCC-Caliban
nonpuz
Profile Joined July 2003
United States176 Posts
November 09 2005 01:33 GMT
#2
micro is your unit control yes, macro is our production control...so yeah basically you got it right.

APM = actions per minute, if you were wondering about that as well. (how many tasks you can do in the game within one minute, the more the better)
Bis zum Kollaps, NICHT VIEL ZEIT!
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36379 Posts
November 09 2005 01:35 GMT
#3
apm means nothing omg apm does not equal speed nobody needs more than 130 apm omg bigballs travis beat nada and themarine on wgt and someone i know who has 80 apm will own you all apm means nothing (though i have 250 apm, sometimes 200) just look at fisheye too hes so good with low apm
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ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
November 09 2005 01:41 GMT
#4
On November 09 2005 10:35 Hot_Bid wrote:
apm means nothing omg apm does not equal speed nobody needs more than 130 apm omg bigballs travis beat nada and themarine on wgt and someone i know who has 80 apm will own you all apm means nothing (though i have 250 apm, sometimes 200) just look at fisheye too hes so good with low apm


Haha, gold.
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Thengel
Profile Joined May 2004
156 Posts
November 09 2005 01:45 GMT
#5
strange

i always thought that if you had higher than your opponent, you would win. close game = 80 apm vs 79 apm
This time I didnt lose the keys, I lost the whole damn car
jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
November 09 2005 01:46 GMT
#6
truetrue-.-
Enter a Uh
SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
November 09 2005 01:48 GMT
#7
if u have a "real" high apm it can help alot but it doesnt mean your a better player. If fisheye had 200 apm+ his skill would be even greater.
EnDeR_
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Spain2771 Posts
November 09 2005 01:51 GMT
#8
this is like the first time this topic has shown up in here, and we are all being very serious about it.
estás más desubicao q un croissant en un plato de nécoras
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36379 Posts
November 09 2005 01:52 GMT
#9
stfu fisheye is good BECAUSE he don't not have 200 apm he beat ogogogogogo but didn't play the third game seriously if ogogogogogogogogo had 100 apm like fisheye he'd be in stargroup right now beating boxer and nal_na and we know anyway korean always just 12123123123zds123123 high apm don't does key what say he do OMG TT -_-
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tfeign
Profile Joined June 2004
United States2980 Posts
November 09 2005 01:53 GMT
#10
This has got to be the newbiest of the newbs newb topics I have ever seen in a long time
nonpuz
Profile Joined July 2003
United States176 Posts
November 09 2005 01:57 GMT
#11
I was just informing the kid what it meant, if he was curios as it is an often used term (just like micro and macro which is what he was asking about) so calm the fuck down, christ.

Also if you look at APM as something less tangable, ie your ability to multitask micro/macro/strategize at the same time (rather then an actual count of APM) it IS something that is important.
Bis zum Kollaps, NICHT VIEL ZEIT!
Redstorm[MFx]
Profile Joined September 2005
Norway258 Posts
November 09 2005 02:01 GMT
#12
man hot_bid ur just kidding right? i mean its a known fact that if u have a high apm that usually means that u are able to have a better control of ur units and can do all the things u need to do alot faster. i would say that 100 apm is way too low if u wanna take down the best cus the best players can micro at like 3 places in 2 sec while a 80 apm player cant even micro 1 spot^^ see my point?
+_+
EnDeR_
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Spain2771 Posts
November 09 2005 02:04 GMT
#13
On November 09 2005 11:01 Redstorm[MFx] wrote:
man hot_bid ur just kidding right?


no he is not, he is dead serious.
estás más desubicao q un croissant en un plato de nécoras
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36379 Posts
November 09 2005 02:10 GMT
#14
On November 09 2005 11:01 Redstorm[MFx] wrote:
man hot_bid ur just kidding right? i mean its a known fact that if u have a high apm that usually means that u are able to have a better control of ur units and can do all the things u need to do alot faster. i would say that 100 apm is way too low if u wanna take down the best cus the best players can micro at like 3 places in 2 sec while a 80 apm player cant even micro 1 spot^^ see my point?


Now that you've pointed out this to me, good sir, I shall reconsider my position at once.
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2dd
Profile Joined September 2005
Belgium421 Posts
November 09 2005 02:20 GMT
#15
Don't say apm means nothing, It can realy help you alot when gaming. I'm sure you can never become with apm 100-150. If you understand with the meaning of pro?
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36379 Posts
November 09 2005 02:28 GMT
#16
On November 09 2005 11:20 2dd wrote:
Don't say apm means nothing, It can realy help you alot when gaming. I'm sure you can never become with apm 100-150. If you understand with the meaning of pro?


apm mean n0thing. i can become many times with 100-150 apm. i became last night TWICE with 100-150 apm. pro more apm become much faster, but not necessarily better
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EnDeR_
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Spain2771 Posts
November 09 2005 02:35 GMT
#17
On November 09 2005 11:28 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2005 11:20 2dd wrote:
Don't say apm means nothing, It can realy help you alot when gaming. I'm sure you can never become with apm 100-150. If you understand with the meaning of pro?


apm mean n0thing. i can become many times with 100-150 apm. i became last night TWICE with 100-150 apm. pro more apm become much faster, but not necessarily better


u n00b, apm is the only important thing when gaming. Pro's have become with 300 apm becuse they understand the meaning of pro.
estás más desubicao q un croissant en un plato de nécoras
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
November 09 2005 02:38 GMT
#18
Lol.

Hot_Bid you need to add a disclaimer to this shit or someone might actually take you seriously ^_^
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MarKoNiO
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Peru888 Posts
November 09 2005 02:39 GMT
#19
Multitasking is important, plus, the faster the better, so if yu have high APM, u can micro/macro/check expos/etc at the same time FASTER.

So I think APM is important.
- Hardcore gamer -
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36379 Posts
November 09 2005 02:39 GMT
#20
On November 09 2005 11:38 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Lol.

Hot_Bid you need to add a disclaimer to this shit or someone might actually take you seriously ^_^


this guy OBVIOUSLY has low apm and doesn't become fast enough
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