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Azide
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada566 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-03 23:45:55
November 03 2011 23:45 GMT
#501
On November 04 2011 08:14 vitHamin wrote:
I really enjoy his stream, he shows us some of the best 2v2 out there!



clever
Azide and SuperNinja - Best Double Protoss 2v2 Team!
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
November 03 2011 23:54 GMT
#502
On November 04 2011 08:45 Azide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 08:14 vitHamin wrote:
I really enjoy his stream, he shows us some of the best 2v2 out there!



clever

ohhhhhhhh you lucky you changed your post. I saw what you said before. -_-

If you're gonna be BM, at least be constructive. There's no reason to be a douche.
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
Zealo
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia40 Posts
November 04 2011 00:54 GMT
#503
On October 16 2011 07:37 ProTech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2011 13:06 Zealo wrote:
my favourite stream by far, watching protech has made 2v2 my favourite format. huge respect for this guy.

is there anywhere to see the vods of PTSL2 games with powertech voice chat?



protechsc2.com

can only find vods with commentators (which i watched live, thinking i would be able to find vods with player chat afterwards) can't with you and power team chat like the vods of destiny and minigun. oh well was still fun to watch


took me a few days before i realised not featured any more, i mostly come to TL just to check if protech is streaming and thought he wasn't cause it wasn't on featured list. kinda ridiculous when there are people with less viewers despite being featured not doing anything special as far as i can tell.

most of the criticism from the three or four obsessed losers in this thread is bullshit from what i've seen in many hours watching and if TL staff are actually giving their opinions any weight i'll be disappointed.

i've always regarded TL as one of the best moderated communities on the web. why the hell have no mods taken any action in this thread? :S
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45032 Posts
November 04 2011 00:55 GMT
#504
On November 04 2011 08:33 FaCE_1 wrote:
I sometime doesn't like protech attitude when he get beat or when he completely rape another team but in general, it's ok.

When I play against or with in (in random team) he is ok.


Not sure if he should be featured but I do like to watch his stream time when he play AT with bandy or Power.


Gotta agree with this. He's definitely a great 2v2 player, but it's kind of sad when he occasionally loses and immediately accuses his opponents of *obviously stream cheating*. He's not perfect.

He just lost to my younger brother (SCMango) in a 2v2 game (and they've played against each other many times in the past, aren't very fond of each other, and they've each won and lost a whole lot of times), and I know for a fact that my younger brother doesn't stream cheat. Hell, I just sat next to my brother as he stomped on ProTech this time around. And yet ProTech has no problem accusing him (among others) of cheating without having any reason to (and without even checking the replay). I guess it's his defense mechanism.

I do love his background music, and he's still a great 2v2 player. But he needs to learn to take a loss.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States437 Posts
November 04 2011 00:57 GMT
#505
On November 04 2011 09:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 08:33 FaCE_1 wrote:
I sometime doesn't like protech attitude when he get beat or when he completely rape another team but in general, it's ok.

When I play against or with in (in random team) he is ok.


Not sure if he should be featured but I do like to watch his stream time when he play AT with bandy or Power.


Gotta agree with this. He's definitely a great 2v2 player, but it's kind of sad when he occasionally loses and immediately accuses his opponents of *obviously stream cheating*. He's not perfect.

He just lost to my younger brother (SCMango) in a 2v2 game (and they've played against each other many times in the past, aren't very fond of each other, and they've each won and lost a whole lot of times), and I know for a fact that my younger brother doesn't stream cheat. Hell, I just sat next to my brother as he stomped on ProTech this time around. And yet ProTech has no problem accusing him (among others) of cheating without having any reason to (and without even checking the replay). I guess it's his defense mechanism.

I do love his background music, and he's still a great 2v2 player. But he needs to learn to take a loss.



He was in my stream, while playing me. It's pretty obvious.
Zealo
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia40 Posts
November 04 2011 01:01 GMT
#506
On November 04 2011 09:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:

He just lost to my younger brother (SCMango) in a 2v2 game (and they've played against each other many times in the past, aren't very fond of each other, and they've each won and lost a whole lot of times), and I know for a fact that my younger brother doesn't stream cheat. Hell, I just sat next to my brother as he stomped on ProTech this time around. And yet ProTech has no problem accusing him (among others) of cheating without having any reason to (and without even checking the replay). I guess it's his defense mechanism.

i love the way there are so many people saying "protech accused me of stream cheating in front of all his viewers when i wasn't!" when they would have no way of knowing that if they weren't in his stream at the time.
xiver
Profile Joined August 2010
Serbia18 Posts
November 04 2011 01:07 GMT
#507
but their friends and family watch stream while they playing, isn't that obvious?!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45032 Posts
November 04 2011 01:07 GMT
#508
On November 04 2011 09:57 ProTech wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 09:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On November 04 2011 08:33 FaCE_1 wrote:
I sometime doesn't like protech attitude when he get beat or when he completely rape another team but in general, it's ok.

When I play against or with in (in random team) he is ok.


Not sure if he should be featured but I do like to watch his stream time when he play AT with bandy or Power.


Gotta agree with this. He's definitely a great 2v2 player, but it's kind of sad when he occasionally loses and immediately accuses his opponents of *obviously stream cheating*. He's not perfect.

He just lost to my younger brother (SCMango) in a 2v2 game (and they've played against each other many times in the past, aren't very fond of each other, and they've each won and lost a whole lot of times), and I know for a fact that my younger brother doesn't stream cheat. Hell, I just sat next to my brother as he stomped on ProTech this time around. And yet ProTech has no problem accusing him (among others) of cheating without having any reason to (and without even checking the replay). I guess it's his defense mechanism.

I do love his background music, and he's still a great 2v2 player. But he needs to learn to take a loss.



He was in my stream, while playing me. It's pretty obvious.


That's just plain incorrect. A few minutes after the game, we checked TL to see if you were streaming, and you happened to be, so we popped in for a minute, but that was well after the game had ended. If you think he has time to chat on your stream while cannon rushing you and then playing a macro game, you're sadly mistaken.
We only popped into your stream afterwards because he thought you'd be angry at the loss (and you were- you accused him of stream cheating), and we wanted to see if you would check the replay (you didn't). Obviously, you just felt like making accusations for no reason.
I'm just not particularly happy that you accuse people of cheating when you lose. You're a good player, but that's a very sad way of making excuses in my opinion.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States437 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 01:12:19
November 04 2011 01:09 GMT
#509
[QUOTE]On November 04 2011 10:07 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 04 2011 09:57 ProTech wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 04 2011 09:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 04 2011 08:33 FaCE_1 wrote:
I sometime doesn't like protech attitude when he get beat or when he completely rape another team but in general, it's ok.

When I play against or with in (in random team) he is ok.


Not sure if he should be featured but I do like to watch his stream time when he play AT with bandy or Power.[/QUOTE]

Gotta agree with this. He's definitely a great 2v2 player, but it's kind of sad when he occasionally loses and immediately accuses his opponents of *obviously stream cheating*. He's not perfect.

He just lost to my younger brother (SCMango) in a 2v2 game (and they've played against each other many times in the past, aren't very fond of each other, and they've each won and lost a whole lot of times), and I know for a fact that my younger brother doesn't stream cheat. Hell, I just sat next to my brother as he stomped on ProTech this time around. And yet ProTech has no problem accusing him (among others) of cheating without having any reason to (and without even checking the replay). I guess it's his defense mechanism.

I do love his background music, and he's still a great 2v2 player. But he needs to learn to take a loss. [/QUOTE]


He was in my stream, while playing me. It's pretty obvious.[/QUOTE]




Gotcha, well if you think that, then you think that. I'll think the way I think. It's not going to change anything.
EDIT: I've shown my stream how mango has stream cheated in the past, there's no reason for me to waste my time doing it
hipsterHobbit
Profile Joined September 2011
United States218 Posts
November 04 2011 01:20 GMT
#510
LMAO no reason for you to waste your time doing it when just accusing people is way easier.

You've "shown", but what you fail to do is prove, because proving someone is stream cheating is nigh impossible. So why don't you just shut the fuck up about it forever? For everyone?

As you know, it's a risk you take when you stream, but for the rest of us that queue up 2v2 and have to play you it SHOULDN'T be a risk we take for whooping your ass to get falsely accused. Can't ever give credit where it's due, unless it's to yourself of course.

Man up you fkn pansy.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States437 Posts
November 04 2011 01:25 GMT
#511
On November 04 2011 10:20 hipsterHobbit wrote:
LMAO no reason for you to waste your time doing it when just accusing people is way easier.

You've "shown", but what you fail to do is prove, because proving someone is stream cheating is nigh impossible. So why don't you just shut the fuck up about it forever? For everyone?

As you know, it's a risk you take when you stream, but for the rest of us that queue up 2v2 and have to play you it SHOULDN'T be a risk we take for whooping your ass to get falsely accused. Can't ever give credit where it's due, unless it's to yourself of course.

Man up you fkn pansy.



I have taken your post into consideration. Ive thought about it in the past too. I've said on my stream that it's a risk that all of us streamers as we cannot put a delay on our streams at the exact moment due to the multistream bug but rest assured once that's possible it's going up, delay will be about 5 mins to negate all the accusations.

That being said, until then i'm not just gonna be like " I just lost that because they were better. " when for 1) i've already proven that they stream cheat, or 2) it was blatantly obvious. This is just the way it's going to be.

I've also said many times that if you just come up front about it, then I have no reason to bitch about it as it is a risk all of us streamers take. But just beacuse my stream was taken off the featured list, that doesn't mean i'm not going to let my crowd know when it happens, it's as simple as that.

I'm not going to be bad mannered about, but im still going to point it out, period.
hipsterHobbit
Profile Joined September 2011
United States218 Posts
November 04 2011 01:35 GMT
#512
Okay, so you're never going to man up. All I see there is more excuses.

It's not about you, it's about the people you falsely accuse.

Your ego obviously disallows you to recognize the predicament faced by those who have had wins "de-legitimized" to an extent because of your false accusations.

"He was probably listening to my stream, because I said if he opened forge I wouldn't make lings". more false accusations, I turned your stream on after the game just so I could hear the fact that you're still spouting false bullshit about people YOU don't like because they know how to beat you. My ally attacked me with his drones at the start of that game anyways, but you of course don't even look at the economy tab or anything before spouting off false accusations.

Some things never change, ExcuseTech.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States437 Posts
November 04 2011 01:37 GMT
#513
On November 04 2011 10:35 hipsterHobbit wrote:
Okay, so you're never going to man up. All I see there is more excuses.

It's not about you, it's about the people you falsely accuse.

Your ego obviously disallows you to recognize the predicament faced by those who have had wins "de-legitimized" to an extent because of your false accusations.

"He was probably listening to my stream, because I said if he opened forge I wouldn't make lings". more false accusations, I turned your stream on after the game just so I could hear the fact that you're still spouting false bullshit about people YOU don't like because they know how to beat you. My ally attacked me with his drones at the start of that game anyways, but you of course don't even look at the economy tab or anything before spouting off false accusations.

Some things never change, ExcuseTech.


You are entitled to you opinion. You are not being forced to watch my stream, if you not happy with the content, then don't watch it.
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
November 04 2011 01:39 GMT
#514
On November 04 2011 10:20 hipsterHobbit wrote:
LMAO no reason for you to waste your time doing it when just accusing people is way easier.

You've "shown", but what you fail to do is prove, because proving someone is stream cheating is nigh impossible. So why don't you just shut the fuck up about it forever? For everyone?

As you know, it's a risk you take when you stream, but for the rest of us that queue up 2v2 and have to play you it SHOULDN'T be a risk we take for whooping your ass to get falsely accused. Can't ever give credit where it's due, unless it's to yourself of course.

Man up you fkn pansy.

Nice attitude. kid.
VashTS; 330; Random -- Ranked #9 Pokemon Video Game Player in the World in 2009
hipsterHobbit
Profile Joined September 2011
United States218 Posts
November 04 2011 01:42 GMT
#515
Defamation of character (slander) is against the law. It's a game, nobody is going to press charges, but why don't you have some fucking decency and sportsmanship in lieu of that fact?
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States437 Posts
November 04 2011 01:42 GMT
#516
One other thing I would like to point out, is that it's impossible to actually prove someone is stream cheating. There is simply no way to know if it's happening, and if I accuse you of it, and you weren't then I apologize. Either way, in some cases its pretty obvious, but it's not 100% fact that they were. Again, I have my opinions as to what I think happened, that's all.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States437 Posts
November 04 2011 01:57 GMT
#517
On November 04 2011 10:42 hipsterHobbit wrote:
Defamation of character (slander) is against the law. It's a game, nobody is going to press charges, but why don't you have some fucking decency and sportsmanship in lieu of that fact?



I do.
hipsterHobbit
Profile Joined September 2011
United States218 Posts
November 04 2011 02:15 GMT
#518
And I shit a gold brick every morning.
MaV_gGSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1345 Posts
November 04 2011 02:16 GMT
#519
sick strats broski :D
Life's good :D
SlimeBagly
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
356 Posts
November 04 2011 02:20 GMT
#520
On November 04 2011 10:42 hipsterHobbit wrote:
Defamation of character (slander) is against the law. It's a game, nobody is going to press charges, but why don't you have some fucking decency and sportsmanship in lieu of that fact?


I would love to see someone press charges over being called a stream cheater. I'll pitch in on the legal fees.
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