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WesleyLok
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada99 Posts
March 09 2012 18:20 GMT
#1041
so.. this is the nigger guy.

Fuck you. My best friend is black.

User was banned for this post.
Kennyk
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada6 Posts
March 09 2012 18:33 GMT
#1042
This has gone way out of proportion for a word said over the internet
I guess people just want to see someone going somewhere fall
FlamingForce
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands701 Posts
March 09 2012 18:39 GMT
#1043
On March 10 2012 03:33 Kennyk wrote:
This has gone way out of proportion for a word said over the internet
I guess people just want to see someone going somewhere fall


Exactly.
Honestly, this community is fuckin disgusting sometimes.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
March 09 2012 18:56 GMT
#1044
On March 10 2012 03:20 WesleyLok wrote:
so.. this is the nigger guy.

Fuck you. My best friend is black.


Kind of unnecessary post. It may not be allright to use the N-word, but it doesn't make it any more right to scream "Fuck you!" into that person's face; if anything, it lowers you to that level. Personally, I believe orb had a lapse of judgment, but he shouldn't be so harshly punished for it.
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Brotatoes23
Profile Joined September 2011
United States67 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 19:31:47
March 09 2012 19:29 GMT
#1045
On March 10 2012 03:39 FlamingForce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 03:33 Kennyk wrote:
This has gone way out of proportion for a word said over the internet
I guess people just want to see someone going somewhere fall


Exactly.
Honestly, this community is fuckin disgusting sometimes.


It's pretty disgusting you're pushing to allow something like this. As a fast growing community on the verge of being mainstream, even the CEO of EG knows they can't have someone with that reputation working for them. It's really sad (disgusting) you can't see that. You have no business brains at all and I wouldn't be surprised if you are unemployed yourself.
Everyone (but you) is pulling for E-sports to be successful, I think even orb now realizes that he's going to have to put some thought into his actions as a 23 year old, boo fuckin hoo. The fuck is so hard about watching what you say? If you use the word"n**ger" in a replaceable fashion, then replace it! This shit doesn't fly when you're a public figure. Do you understand?

You won't stop reddit, or the groups that witch hunted Mel Gibson, or the boycotters who witch hunted the guy from Seinfeld (Kramer) when he started saying that shit in front of his STAND UP COMEDY AUDIENCE. In a situation where it should even be more acceptable, he still go bent over and is probably making shit for money right now.

So fucking learn to watch what you say? I'd say that's a lot easier to do than trying to stop an avalanche of bullshit knocking on your door when you wake up.
Humans - Knee deep in a river, still searching for water.
mastergriggy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1312 Posts
March 09 2012 19:33 GMT
#1046
He's still a good caster. Because Michael Phelps smoked pot didn't make him a bad swimmer.
Write your own song!
Aratan
Profile Joined October 2010
United States90 Posts
March 09 2012 19:43 GMT
#1047
On March 10 2012 03:56 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 03:20 WesleyLok wrote:
so.. this is the nigger guy.

Fuck you. My best friend is black.


Kind of unnecessary post. It may not be allright to use the N-word, but it doesn't make it any more right to scream "Fuck you!" into that person's face; if anything, it lowers you to that level. Personally, I believe orb had a lapse of judgment, but he shouldn't be so harshly punished for it.

This was a south park joke by the way.

Anyways really lame that EG would dismiss orb for something that done in the past, especially since it wasn't during while he was contracted. Unfortunately the community loves their drama and blows things out of proportion. Sad to see people like orb and katu losing their jobs because of people like that.
CaptainCrush
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States785 Posts
March 09 2012 19:45 GMT
#1048
On March 10 2012 03:20 WesleyLok wrote:
so.. this is the nigger guy.

Fuck you. My best friend is black.


So he said a bad word on stream and you come in and scream a bad word back at him? Puts you on the exact same level...

They are just words, anyone offended by words these days is the problem, not the person who said it. Grow up, they are far more important things in life than being called names. And no, just because he happened to use the N-word doesnt make it any worse, its a word like millions of others in the english language.
Beef Noodles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States937 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 19:54:55
March 09 2012 19:52 GMT
#1049
Hey orb,

Just wanted to say that I am a huge fan of your casting, and I enjoy your casts a lot. I personally don't approve of the use of the "n-word" in public,* and I feel that Evil Geniuses had to make the move they did.

That said, I also don't approve of labeling anyone a racist for the rest of their lives. Using "political correctness" to flame and terrorize someone is also wrong. People have a right to be angry, but we all need to be as open-minded as we claim we are, and allow for Orb to be forgiven.

I personally believe you when you say those are not your views, and it was instead immature outbursts. However, I do not want you to be ostracized by the community. I feel that if you do not make a greater effort (and soon), people will always remember you by this, which would be a tragedy. In the paragraphs that follow, I am not judging you, but instead giving advice on what might help the situation.

Realistically, it is going to be difficult for you to win back certain sections of the community, and you will (and in my opinion should) have to take a big step toward proving that those are not your views, or are no longer your views. Holding an open session and talking to people might really help. Call your friends. Ask to go on State of the Game, Live on 3, etc. not you explain yourself, but instead to apologize and show the community that you will work to make amends. If you feel comfortable taking flack, you might even ask any offended viewers of those shows to send in comments or questions so that you can speak with them directly. Don't be combative, be you (your normal, nice, mature self).

There is even race-issue counseling you might want to look into as it will show that you are very serious, and you are making a tremendous effort. Do anything and everything you can to show that you will not disappear. You are here to stay, and you are terribly sorry for what happened.

Ask for forgiveness. If people wish to think you are a racist, let them. But show that even if you were a racist, you have changed. Racism is not ingrained. It is learned and unlearned. Show them that (even if you never meant it in the first place).

You are a great caster and a pleasure to watch. I wish you the best.

Beef Noodles


*Unless in historical context like reading the word in books and texts (off topic, but I always make this distinction)
Silvertine
Profile Joined February 2012
United States509 Posts
March 09 2012 20:10 GMT
#1050
On March 10 2012 03:33 Kennyk wrote:
This has gone way out of proportion for a word said over the internet
I guess people just want to see someone going somewhere fall

I know, a guy says some racist shit over and over again and people get offended... what's with that?
Malgrif
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1095 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 21:26:36
March 09 2012 20:32 GMT
#1051
i'm sorry for what happened orb, people really are dicks. it seems to me most of the people didn't actually care or get offended but just did it because they were bored and hopped on the drama train... I would understand if you don't want to involve yourself with this immature self righteous and cynical community any more, but keep your head up you're an awesome caster and it's the community's lost honestly you didn't do anything wrong.

I think DEBO sums it up best

for there to be pro there has to be noob.
UrielSC
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada143 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 20:34:02
March 09 2012 20:32 GMT
#1052
On March 10 2012 05:10 Silvertine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 03:33 Kennyk wrote:
This has gone way out of proportion for a word said over the internet
I guess people just want to see someone going somewhere fall

I know, a guy says some racist shit over and over again and people get offended... what's with that?


Exactly!
What's that old saying about arguing or being upset at someone over the internet?
All I remember is something about being retarded regardless of the outcome.

Gl to orb in the future and i hope to see an epic comeback
Kuni
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Austria765 Posts
March 09 2012 22:30 GMT
#1053
So when are you gonna be streaming again? :-)
bonus vir semper tiro
Brotatoes23
Profile Joined September 2011
United States67 Posts
March 10 2012 00:39 GMT
#1054
On March 10 2012 04:45 CaptainCrush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 03:20 WesleyLok wrote:
so.. this is the nigger guy.

Fuck you. My best friend is black.


So he said a bad word on stream and you come in and scream a bad word back at him? Puts you on the exact same level...

They are just words, anyone offended by words these days is the problem, not the person who said it. Grow up, they are far more important things in life than being called names. And no, just because he happened to use the N-word doesnt make it any worse, its a word like millions of others in the english language.


Hate to break it to you little poindexter... People die every day for saying the wrong things. People take words like "ni**er" strait to the ass hole, pull a gun, and shoot you. The fact you don't see it everyday doesn't mean it doesn't happen. You're just inside all the time.
Humans - Knee deep in a river, still searching for water.
UrielSC
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada143 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 00:43:53
March 10 2012 00:42 GMT
#1055
On March 10 2012 09:39 Brotatoes23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 04:45 CaptainCrush wrote:
On March 10 2012 03:20 WesleyLok wrote:
so.. this is the nigger guy.

Fuck you. My best friend is black.


So he said a bad word on stream and you come in and scream a bad word back at him? Puts you on the exact same level...

They are just words, anyone offended by words these days is the problem, not the person who said it. Grow up, they are far more important things in life than being called names. And no, just because he happened to use the N-word doesnt make it any worse, its a word like millions of others in the english language.


Hate to break it to you little poindexter... People die every day for saying the wrong things. People take words like "ni**er" strait to the ass hole, pull a gun, and shoot you. The fact you don't see it everyday doesn't mean it doesn't happen. You're just inside all the time.


Yeah man.. People don't care about spending about 25 years in jail( Or in some cases the death penalty ), They are more worried about being racial defenders..
You said a bad word and for that you must be shot and killed.

RevRich
Profile Joined February 2011
United States218 Posts
March 10 2012 01:16 GMT
#1056
On March 10 2012 04:33 mastergriggy wrote:
He's still a good caster. Because Michael Phelps smoked pot didn't make him a bad swimmer.


Smoking weed at a party doesn't compare to repeatedly using racist insults toward others. Sorry.
Brotatoes23
Profile Joined September 2011
United States67 Posts
March 10 2012 01:21 GMT
#1057
On March 10 2012 09:42 Jellomomello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 09:39 Brotatoes23 wrote:
On March 10 2012 04:45 CaptainCrush wrote:
On March 10 2012 03:20 WesleyLok wrote:
so.. this is the nigger guy.

Fuck you. My best friend is black.


So he said a bad word on stream and you come in and scream a bad word back at him? Puts you on the exact same level...

They are just words, anyone offended by words these days is the problem, not the person who said it. Grow up, they are far more important things in life than being called names. And no, just because he happened to use the N-word doesnt make it any worse, its a word like millions of others in the english language.


Hate to break it to you little poindexter... People die every day for saying the wrong things. People take words like "ni**er" strait to the ass hole, pull a gun, and shoot you. The fact you don't see it everyday doesn't mean it doesn't happen. You're just inside all the time.


Yeah man.. People don't care about spending about 25 years in jail( Or in some cases the death penalty ), They are more worried about being racial defenders..
You said a bad word and for that you must be shot and killed.



I'm just sayin' ... Don't act like it isn't true... Your attitude is promoting the spread of racial hate. Keep those horse blinders on, while I doubt you'd ever have the guts to say anything similar to a stranger in real life.
Humans - Knee deep in a river, still searching for water.
FlamingForce
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands701 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-10 01:59:42
March 10 2012 01:56 GMT
#1058
On March 10 2012 04:29 Brotatoes23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 03:39 FlamingForce wrote:
On March 10 2012 03:33 Kennyk wrote:
This has gone way out of proportion for a word said over the internet
I guess people just want to see someone going somewhere fall


Exactly.
Honestly, this community is fuckin disgusting sometimes.


It's pretty disgusting you're pushing to allow something like this. As a fast growing community on the verge of being mainstream, even the CEO of EG knows they can't have someone with that reputation working for them. It's really sad (disgusting) you can't see that. You have no business brains at all and I wouldn't be surprised if you are unemployed yourself.
Everyone (but you) is pulling for E-sports to be successful, I think even orb now realizes that he's going to have to put some thought into his actions as a 23 year old, boo fuckin hoo. The fuck is so hard about watching what you say? If you use the word"n**ger" in a replaceable fashion, then replace it! This shit doesn't fly when you're a public figure. Do you understand?

You won't stop reddit, or the groups that witch hunted Mel Gibson, or the boycotters who witch hunted the guy from Seinfeld (Kramer) when he started saying that shit in front of his STAND UP COMEDY AUDIENCE. In a situation where it should even be more acceptable, he still go bent over and is probably making shit for money right now.

So fucking learn to watch what you say? I'd say that's a lot easier to do than trying to stop an avalanche of bullshit knocking on your door when you wake up.


Wow, you just said absolutely nothing and gift-wrapped it with a whole lotta fake confidence, silly assumptions and pretty words, good job man.
People want to see people going places get torn down, that's the only truth here.
rfoster
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1005 Posts
March 10 2012 02:01 GMT
#1059
On March 10 2012 10:21 Brotatoes23 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 09:42 Jellomomello wrote:
On March 10 2012 09:39 Brotatoes23 wrote:
On March 10 2012 04:45 CaptainCrush wrote:
On March 10 2012 03:20 WesleyLok wrote:
so.. this is the nigger guy.

Fuck you. My best friend is black.


So he said a bad word on stream and you come in and scream a bad word back at him? Puts you on the exact same level...

They are just words, anyone offended by words these days is the problem, not the person who said it. Grow up, they are far more important things in life than being called names. And no, just because he happened to use the N-word doesnt make it any worse, its a word like millions of others in the english language.


Hate to break it to you little poindexter... People die every day for saying the wrong things. People take words like "ni**er" strait to the ass hole, pull a gun, and shoot you. The fact you don't see it everyday doesn't mean it doesn't happen. You're just inside all the time.


Yeah man.. People don't care about spending about 25 years in jail( Or in some cases the death penalty ), They are more worried about being racial defenders..
You said a bad word and for that you must be shot and killed.



I'm just sayin' ... Don't act like it isn't true... Your attitude is promoting the spread of racial hate. Keep those horse blinders on, while I doubt you'd ever have the guts to say anything similar to a stranger in real life.


While I agree that orb should have been fired. You fail to understand that he wasnt saying it in a hateful way. Its could have been replaced with any other "bad" word. You say that he should have treated it like he was looking that person in the face(in person). But if you think about that point; why would orb be raging in real life that badly? People who call black people nigger in real life may not even be racist. It depends on context really. I have black friends who call us "nigga" and some of my friends respond back to him with that saying something silly like "my nigga!". I dont do that because it just feels awkward for me. But to your point if you call the wrong person anything not even racial you can get shot by some idiot kid, so I agree with that.
LaVaDayvinho
Profile Joined March 2012
United Kingdom9 Posts
March 10 2012 02:26 GMT
#1060
I think DEBO sums it up best


I am inclined to agree, instead of feeding this insanity we simply ignore it in future? As a community grow, because the world is changing, always has and always will. I will always believe we are the pioneers, as apposed to conforming to the standard of now, we as a community should take it on ourselves to set the standard of tomorrow. To emphasise my point & a good place to start Stop Joseph Kony Now. If one in every 10 people who post on this forum saying they care about matters like this, should find themselves caring so much more about this they will forget what this was ever about.
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