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MC will probably lose one game being caught a little off guard by thorzain's style. But he'll catch up. Training with Jinro is going to serve him well.
Kas is going to roll adelscott. He'll play well in game one but lose anyway and then tilt and make horrible mistakes and lose terribly. Happens all the time.
BoxeR vs Hasuobs is probably the most interesting Ro8 matchup. Hard to predict. I think hasuobs' PvT ain't too good, while BoxeR's TvP is so patient and solid. I think lag might screw BoxeR up a bit, 3-2 is the correct prediction imo.
Naniwa is going to crush cruncher so hard it will make him look bronze league. He's on a whole different level of play.
MC 3-1 ThorZain Kas 3-2 Adel BoxeR 3-1 HasuObs NaNiwa 3-0 CrunCher
I think MC should take his series no problem, he is two times GSL champ so. He might loose his game on Caverns due to ThorZain mech play tho, so I guess 3-1
Adel has been training with Kas for his prevous matchup so Kas will know his style in and out. However, Adelscott has been training his PvT since the beginning of the TSL, so you bet it is refined. I still think Kas will take it due to his superior late game macro and knownledge of Adel's style, but it will be close.
BoxeR has been looking beastly in his TvZ agaisnt Sen, as you might know TvZ is BoxeR's worst MU and TvP is his best. I think BoxeR should be able to roll Hasu without much problem, especially with the recent Templar nerf that completly ruined Hasu PvT style.
Even if it's PvP, NaNi should roll Cruncher without much problems, his PvP looks very good as displayed vs KiWiKaKi in MLG and KiWi is much better than CrunCher. So not much to say, NaNi will roll him.
On April 18 2011 07:59 SpiZe wrote: Predictions time!
MC 3-1 ThorZain Kas 3-2 Adel BoxeR 3-1 HasuObs NaNiwa 3-0 CrunCher
I think MC should take his series no problem, he is two times GSL champ so. He might loose his game on Caverns due to ThorZain mech play tho, so I guess 3-1
Adel has been training with Kas for his prevous matchup so Kas will know his style in and out. However, Adelscott has been training his PvT since the beginning of the TSL, so you bet it is refined. I still think Kas will take it due to his superior late game macro and knownledge of Adel's style, but it will be close.
BoxeR has been looking beastly in his TvZ agaisnt Sen, as you might know TvZ is BoxeR's worst MU and TvP is his best. I think BoxeR should be able to roll Hasu without much problem, especially with the recent Templar nerf that completly ruined Hasu PvT style.
Even if it's PvP, NaNi should roll Cruncher without much problems, his PvP looks very good as displayed vs KiWiKaKi in MLG and KiWi is much better than CrunCher. So not much to say, NaNi will roll him.
I have exacly the same predictions although the PvP can go either way.It's not the hardest mu to master...
ThorZaIN vs. MC : I predict a very close series. MC is the favorite but i feel he is going to underestimate the skill of ThorZaIN and i have to mention the lag, because it is a factor in close games. ThorZaIN is aswell be Super prepared again with freaking hardcore planed out builds.
Kas vs Adelscott: Kas is going go stomp adel, it's not going to look funny.
HasuObs vs. SlayerS_Boxer: Such a hard matchup to predict. I feel BoxeR wants to win and prepars well but HasuObs will do the same. Overall i think Hasu is going to take it in the End.
NaNiwa vs CrunCher: NaNiwa plays in another league of PvP. The Only Chance CrunCher has if NaNiwa doesn't show up or refuses to play any PvP the next weeks.
When are the games being played live? Finals or Final + 3rd place decider? or Semi finals as well?
I hope Boxer can make it to the finals. Imagine how much attention this will get in Korea :O Boxer standing in the finals of the biggest international tournament :D Viewers will explode on stream by everyone lol.
Was hoping it would be day9 + Artosis for one of the cast nevertheless Chill and Wheat will do a great job. Maybe they're saving day9+Artosis for the semis or finals..
Predictions 3-0 MC adelscott 3-2 boxer 3-1 naniwa 3-0
NaNi is going to roll Cruncher. Only way to play PvP is 4 Gate and his nick was Onebaseiwa in the not so recent past... So yeah. 4-Gate master.
MC is going to roflstomp Thorzain so hard it's not funny. Thorzain might have funny builds but they dont matter when a nice timing attack comes his way.
On April 18 2011 08:20 Finrod1 wrote: ThorZaIN vs. MC : I predict a very close series. MC is the favorite but i feel he is going to underestimate the skill of ThorZaIN and i have to mention the lag, because it is a factor in close games. ThorZaIN is aswell be Super prepared again with freaking hardcore planed out builds.
MC will be in Copenhagen next week to attend a LAN, so he should have an opportunity to play his match against Thorzain without cross continent lag.
On April 18 2011 08:32 Omgzpwnd wrote: Naniwa will beat cruncher in the name of zergs ;D also hoping for naniwa vs mc finals.
I would love to see a PvP confrontation too, I feel it would be epic but lots of people don't find it that entertaining. If I had a second choice, I'd also like to see it come down to MC vs BoxeR especially after BoxeR's inability to make DreamHack and watching the documentary on BoxeR =P
In my opinion Kas and Naniwa are the only players left that can beat MC in a bo5 (7? not sure if the finals are bo7). But I'm expecting a MC - Naniwa finals, it is Protoss' season after all!
On April 18 2011 09:01 SkiZou wrote: In my opinion Kas and Naniwa are the only players left that can beat MC in a bo5 (7? not sure if the finals are bo7). But I'm expecting a MC - Naniwa finals, it is Protoss' season after all!
Hope to see Artosis casting with Day9! Tastosis combo got some amazing chemistry to it. I would like to see what happens when Artosis pairs with Tasteless' brother.
PvT is MC's weakest matchup and Thorzain has been looking really strong in the tournament so far. But MC is the most accomplished SC2 player in the world at the moment. His PvT is still pretty strong and he'll be prepared for the match now that he is taking foreigners seriously.
Boxer has been slumping, but his game looked to be on a new level versus Sen. HasuObs is just a really strong/solid player. I think the question will be more about how Boxer plays, but if he plays his A game he could definitely take it.
Cruncher is a really strong and underrated player, sporting series wins over Sjow, Kiwikaki, oGsInca, MarineKingPrime, Idra, Kas and other top players on his resume. However, Naniwa is arguably the best protoss outside of Korea at the moment, having only dropped 2 games to win MLG in addition to strong European tournament results. Cruncher definitely has a chance and I will be rooting for the upset, but Naniwa is the favorite.
BoxeR has been playing awesomely, he really wants to win and he has some of the best protosses to practice against, he seriously has a chance to get into the finals. Hoping to see BoxeR vs MC! :D
ThorZaIN 3 - 2 MC - I Actually believe he can take down the beast. Kas 3 - 1 Adelscott - Kas tvp is almost as good as thorzains. HasuObs 3 - 1 BoxeR - It was a great run, but it ends here boxer. NaNiwa 3 - 1 CrunCher - I just can't see CrunCher win this.
NO ZEEERRRGGS!! : ( Poor mondragon, i know he wishes he had the time to be more in shape for this tournament, even though he played really well. Cruncher barely took those games impossible to win on shakuras as zerg in ZvP.
I think MC is going to take the tournament and I think there's another PvP finals incoming.. /sigh Naniwa vrs MC finals
No Zergs in this tourney either. All eliminated by RO8. Of course this is not evidence that there is IMBA, since we all agree there is not IMBA. However the alternative is that all pro Zerg players are really just bad. I can't see how that is any better a conclusion. Well I guess I'll just wait for the next tournament.
Really hoping for Boxer in the Finals! Preferably vs MC but whatever comes out as long as Boxer's in it it'll be legendary! Really to bad Mondragon was taken out His ZvP style was incredible, so broodwaresque, hope we get to see him somewhere again, damn NASL not taking him! Since that isn't going to happen I hope Cruncher can take it past Naniwa though, can't have him knocking my favorite out and then losing! :D
GL to all the players but there aren't any zergs which makes me a sad panda. I don't understand are zerg players just not as good as T and P players or is it just the races?
On April 18 2011 11:52 kERAD wrote: GL to all the players but there aren't any zergs which makes me a sad panda. I don't understand are zerg players just not as good as T and P players or is it just the races?
can of worms
Game is still volatile, one tournament is a small sample size, just a coincidence, the brackets were unlucky etc. etc. Don't read too much into it.
Particularly interested in the Nani v Cruncher match, I have thoroughly enjoyed their recent matches, and they both have some momentum entering the Ro8.
But, in regards to TSL3 as a whole, I would love to see Boxer win it all. I think it would be a tremendous feat for the Emperor to make such a statement in the SC2 scene.
MC 3-1 Thorzain - thorzain will prepare very hard and win 1 or 2 games but MC is sooo good man. Idk how hed lose. Kas 3-0 Adelscott - I don't think Adel is bad at all, I just think that if Kas takes game 1, he will be so hard to stop. BoxeR 3-2 HasuObs - I think boxer wants this really bad. I expect an epic series. Naniwa 3-1 CrunCher - similar to MC vs Thorzain... Cruncher is really gonna want to surprise people, but I doubt it will be enough.
MC 4-2 Kas - not too much to say here, I think MC is simply better. If Kas has some tricks up his sleeve I think he can do well, but I wouid be very surprised if he wins. Naniwa 4-1 Boxer - naniwa is really good at abusing protoss, and I feel there is very little boxer can do about this. Preparation will dictate how well the series goes for him, but I don't think he'll win.
Naniwa 4-3 MC - Naniwa, I believe. Fuck yeah. He'll feel ok about winning TSL.
Thorzain 3-0 MC, every hole, every trick, every risk that MC will try to use will be shut down by a meticulous Thorzain. MC will look helpless unless he shows something very different from his usual playstyle.
Adelscott 3-2 Kas because i'm french
Boxer 3-1 Hasu Too many things to handle in every corner of Hasu's bases
Should all be close series except for NaNi/Cruncher. Cruncher doesn't stand a chance, I expect it to be seriously embarrassing. Like the last time we see Cruncher do anything productive in the professional scene embarrassing.
On April 18 2011 14:10 Valefort wrote: Thorzain 3-0 MC, every hole, every trick, every risk that MC will try to use will be shut down by a meticulous Thorzain. MC will look helpless unless he shows something very different from his usual playstyle.
Adelscott 3-2 Kas because i'm french
Boxer 3-1 Hasu Too many things to handle in every corner of Hasu's bases
Naniwa - Cruncher unpredictable
yea, because MC is terrible late game? MC will demolish Thorzain We'll see later though I guess.
If Thorzain brings some cool builds and his execution is as awesome as in the past two matches, then the best broadcasted TvP of all times may be incoming.
Artosis casting ... that's pretty damn sweet. The finals being casted by Chill and Day9 is also an excellent choice.
A bit of a shame there aren't more Zergs (ZvP ftww) but TvP is a fun match up to watch and seeing Cruncher get annihilated by Naniwa is going to be a nice site to see as well. So I'm actually pretty happy.
Thorzain has been looking really solid, but MC is by far the toughest opponent in the whole shebang, looking forward to come good games there. My hopes are on a Boxer vs Thorzain final, since TvT is my favorite to watch, but we'll likely see MC vs Naniwa or Boxer, rooting for Boxer!
Honestly I think Naniwa is the only one that can take on and win vs MC in a finals so Im hoping it will be them in the finals or that MC drop out before the finals!
i'm especially hyped for the artosis casting would love to see him with Day[9] aswell
That'd be delicious. Also, to finish it all in style we need a crazy live showmatch between Artosis and Day[9], casted by Husky, Chill AND DjWheat in the most out of control style possible.
after Thorzain 3-0'd Tyler his games vs MC will be very interessting, not sure who to root for, but being a terran fan i hope Thorzain will crush some face and that lag wont be a factor.
On April 18 2011 16:17 Lambertus wrote: Oh man...still so sad that no Zerg made it. So I will now hope for a TvP final at least. PvP is soooo boring. Boxer vs MC maybe? :D
But most likely we will see MC vs Kas...
Go Artosis!
PvP is still better than TvT finals. I just can not stand watching 30-40 minutes of back and forth games which only includes marines/tanks/vikings... TvT cross positions on terminus or tal-darim /slith
PvP is so much more intense, even if it's a 4-gate vs 4-gate
Kas 1 - Adelscott 3 - I think Adelscott is as good in macro as kas but better in micro and gameplan
HasuObs 1 - BoxeR 3 - I reailly like hasu and I'm from Germany, but I want boxer to win the tournament because He must win some stuff to feel more confident and stay in e-sports!
NaNiwa 3 - CrunCher 0 - I like cruncher more but naniwa is a beast. a bm-beast but a beast ^^
i really hope thorzain can win!!! he is the cinderella of the tourny Artosis casting as well... man this is going to be one epic weekend time to invite all the buddies over and hook my comp up to the TV
ThorZaIN 3 - 2 MC - MC's good form has to come to an end sooner or later; why not Thorzain? Kas 3 - 0 Adelscott - Kas is quite possibly the best Terran in the world right now. Not happening for Adel. HasuObs 1-3 BoxeR - Although I don't rate BoxeR too highly, I believe he SHOULD get over HasuObs without much difficulty. NaNiwa 3 - 1 CrunCher - CrunCher can probably take 1; but that's it.
Does anyone know if the KR-US or KR-EU lag has gotten any better as Japan works to restore connectivity?
I'd hate to see Boxer compete with a severe handicap -- we saw the amazing match against Sen which was KR-KR, I just hope the network conditions are such that he can show this sort of skill off again.
Meh...if the finals is all Protoss, I may not even watch it. The only person who I saw do something radically different and exciting in PvP was HuK vs HasuObs and he ended up getting knocked out so that'll be useless.
On April 18 2011 23:43 Chill wrote: I'm also surprised people are writing off Cruncher again. His micro and multitasking while defending vs Mondragon was on-point.
Probably because Naniwa completed dominated MLG Dallas, which is a bit more impressing than having a few good moments against Mondragon.
My predictions: MC - Thorzain 3-1 Adelscott - Kas 2-3 HasuObs - BoxeR - 2-3 Naniwa - Cruncher 3-1
such an interesting lineup for the ro8 - at least a very unexpected one (really fucked up brakcet contest^^) think hasu vs boxer will be the most interesting match, though im not sure if the Kas will own adelscott that easy, as many ppl expect^^
really looking forward to these games - and artosis casting of course =)
No single zerg in Ro8, no single zerg qualified via winning one of qualifiers... even if you say, that zerg is the weakest race, because of the weakest players playing it.. then there must be a reason to it. I mean; Why are all the best players not playing zerg then? Because they think they're better with the other races, right?.. Just saying..
Predictions: Thorzain 1-3 MC Adel 1-3 Kas HasuObs 3-2 Boxer Naniwa 3-1 Cruncher
My hopes are: Thorzain 3-2 MC - This one will be interesting, Hoping Thorzain will do his best! Adelscott 3-2 Kas Boxer 3-1 HasuObs Naniwa 3-0 Cruncher
How about a ZvZ showmatch intro for the finals? Just a BO3, I bet that would help bring in some more viewers, especially with the dreaded (ok not by everyone ) PVP looming...
Mots interesting thing to me is that five of the top eight were direct qualifiers from winning the Teamspeak TL Opens. Really shows that the qualification process did a good job of selecting the best players.
Is it just me or is Boxer tearing it up lately.... I think it'll be: MC 3 - Thorzain 1 Kas 3 - Adelscott 2 SlayerS_Boxer 3 - HasuObs 1 Naniwa 3 - Cruncher 0
I never saw Boxer in his heyday of SC:BW and his GSL showings have never seemed to be indicative of his pedigree. But I just watched his best of 5 versus Sen (a very fine player himself) and I thought Boxer played amazing. I know people say he's past his prime and kind of a relic of the old days but I really want to see more of him in tip-top shape.
I think if Hasu can upset BoxeR, we're going to have an all Protoss ro4. Short Round. I hope boxer makes the finals, though, I hate seeing so many pvp's in final rounds of tourneys, as the resulting games are always short and anticlimactic imo
So sad that there are no more zergs in it T_T. I'm rooting for the terrans, however i think it will be a hard round for them, especially for Thorzain, MC is a beast atm. My predictions: thorzan-mc: 0-3 kas-adelscott:3-1 hasu-boxer:2-3 nani-cruncher:3-0
I'm hoping that Thorzain will be able to pull off another upset,but I think only Kas and Boxer have a real shot at getting to the semifinals. Nani will 3-0 Crunsher and easily take care of Adelscott/Boxer to get to the finals. I think he has the most chances to take the 1st off MC.
ThorZaIN 3-2 MC (MC's been looking weaker lately while Thorzain's been rock-solid in what I've seen of him...) Adelscott 1-3 Kas (Kas is just insane & knows Adel's style well) BoxeR 2-3 HasuObs (Haven't seen anything outstanding from Boxer lately except the match against Sen. I keep underestimating Hasu so I'm trying to reverse that trend) CrunCher 1-3 NaNiwa (I can't think of a notable Cruncher game except vs. Zergs... and Naniwa's beastly lately)
Then again... my brackets from the start had MC winning it all and my picks have been wrong more than 50% of the time...
Thorzain 3-0 MC Kas 2-3 Adelscott Hasuobs 1-3 Boxer Naniwa 3-0 Cruncher I'm probably going to be wrong with a lot of these predictions, but I'm looking forward to a crushing 3-0 victory for Thorzain. I believe!
Nationality commands me to root for Hasu, but he is playing BoxeR, damn it ! Very undecided about the Kas vs. Adelscott and MC vs. Thorzain matchup. Expecting NaNiwa to take his series 3-1, but otherwise I have a really tough time deciding whom to put my vote on. Ah well, as long as it's entertaining matches I'm not that bothered.
On April 18 2011 07:39 yoigen wrote: my predictions: thorzain 3 - mc 1 kas 3 - adelscott 0 hasuobs 2 - boxer 3 naniwa 3 - cruncher 1
Wow that is pretty much exactly my bet as well, funny that people are worrying about pvp semi finals when I personally think it will be 3 terrans 1 protoss.
MC has recently shown a weakness vs Terrans and Thorzain has shown amazing tvp so I think MC is the underdog for sure. Hasu vs Boxer is the real coin toss (no pun intended) but Boxer has really started playing a lot better recently.
Naniwa should beat Cruncher unless he is off his game and same for Kas, he is just to solid.
Personally I am kind of fantasying about a Thorzain vs Boxer finals thou how he gets through Naniwa I don't know. With this tournament I feel Thorzain has really put himself on the map and I am just so curious to see how far he can take it.
On April 18 2011 11:16 VoirDire wrote: ThorZaIN 3 - 2 MC - I Actually believe he can take down the beast. Kas 3 - 1 Adelscott - Kas tvp is almost as good as thorzains. HasuObs 3 - 1 BoxeR - It was a great run, but it ends here boxer. NaNiwa 3 - 1 CrunCher - I just can't see CrunCher win this.
"was a great run, but it ends here boxer." No offense, but I can't wait to see you eat your own words! Go boxer!!
On April 18 2011 11:16 VoirDire wrote: ThorZaIN 3 - 2 MC - I Actually believe he can take down the beast. Kas 3 - 1 Adelscott - Kas tvp is almost as good as thorzains. HasuObs 3 - 1 BoxeR - It was a great run, but it ends here boxer. NaNiwa 3 - 1 CrunCher - I just can't see CrunCher win this.
"was a great run, but it ends here boxer." No offense, but I can't wait to see you eat your own words! Go boxer!!
Sneering failed. VoirDire's predictions were so close too.