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[TSL] Ro32 Day 3 Recap and Interviews

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[TSL] Ro32 Day 3 Recap and Interviews

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TSL3 Round of 32 Day 3 Recap
by Lovedrop & Heyoka


A whole lot of viewers joined Chill and Husky for the third day of TSL3 RO32 as 2011's biggest international tournament carries on. Read on to see quick recaps of each match and what our winners had to say!

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Stay tuned for recap and interviews from day 4, they will be here before you know it.




Day 3: Battle Reports


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(T)Mvp < 0-2 > [image loading] (P)Adelscott
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P1 (T)MVP < Xel'Naga Caverns > (P)Adelscott T7

MVP puts a reactor on his first barracks looking to FE, but Adelscott pokes into his base, trading a zealot for 3 SCVs and a marine. MVP pushes out after stim and combat shield is done, but +1 armor and good force fields at his natural helped Adelscott fend off the attack. Adelscott grabs a third immediately, and maintains about a 10 food lead against MVP. As MVP adds medivacs, Adelscott prioritize armor and twilight council upgrades.

MVP is forced to pull SCVs as Adelscott blinks into the natural, but the buildings are well-placed and really took the best out of chargelots. Adelscott tries his luck every 2-3 warp-ins, but MVP was able to get his gold up. Adelscott’s army is zealot-heavy and with colossus, while MVP is mostly churning out marauders and starting blue flame hellion production. Adelscott continues to wither away MVP’s army, while taking both bases on the wing. Adelscott finally catches MVP coming out of his fourth and while EMPs landed perfectly, Adelscott simply outnumbered MVP. [25:52]

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P12 (T)MVP < Metalopolis > (P)Adelscott T2

MVP tries 2 rax pressure, seeing Adelscott had 1 gate FE’d. The bunker was too obvious, and seeing that he can no longer do damage, MVP expands himself. Adelscott goes for a 5 gate after FE before adding any additional tech, but thinks twice and pull back to expand and add some colossus to the mix. While landing two crucial EMPs, MVP could not break the natural as Adelscott had preemptively spread out his units, and the colossus played a huge role in the defense.

Adelscott fakes an attack at the front to send a small squad to snipe MVP’s third, only to draw all of MVP’s forces to the third and march into the front instead. At this very moment, we realize that Adelscott had forgotten to research thermal lance. Disastrous micro mistakes led to all colossi being destroyed, forcing Adelscott to pull back.

MVP looks to ride the momentum, rallying all his units to Adelscott’s main. While his units have continuously repel Adelscott’s defense, all of his MMM army is deeply injured and is a ticking timebomb on how long MVP can keep this attack going. MVP’s army gets cleaned up before he is able to do any real damage to Adelscott’s facilities. Clever use of the ramp, force field, and blink helps Adelscott clear out an attack at the 9’o clock expansion as well as a 2nd wave to his main. Rallying behind his better upgrades, Adelscott counterattacks and takes the game in another upset in the RO32. [27:46]

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(T)MVP < 0-2 > [image loading] (P)Adelscott


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(P)Genius < 0-2 > [image loading] (T)qxc
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(P)Genius < Tal'Darim Altar > [image loading] (T)qxc T11

QXC puts a reactor on his first barracks and a tech lab on the second to look to do some damage to Genius, but warp gate kicks in just in time for his three gateway to push QXC back. Both players expand behind the skirmish. QXC sneaks a dropship into Genius’s main while preoccupying him with a frontal attack. Both attacks deal moderate amount of damage, and Genius looks to stop any sort of future drops by pumping out phoenixes from two stargates.

The phoenixes do a great job at harassing and denying drops, but it is QXC who is first to take a third. A huge engagement happens in the middle and while Genius is clearly the victor, QXC’s third and soon-to-be fourth has already kicked into gear, providing him with a clear army reproduction advantage. Genius has not even transferred his probes over to his fourth base before QXC has 5 of his functioning. Nearly 100 food ahead, QXC destroys Genius’s third and takes the first game. [28:31]

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(P)Genius < Xel'Naga Caverns > [image loading] (T)qxc T7

QXC gains ramp vision from his reapers and attacks into Genius’s base, but lacks the firepower to successfully break through. Meanwhile, Genius expands behind his three warp gates and a dark shrine. QXC’s expansion is extremely late due to his need to slowly construct turrets down the ramp of his base. QXC brings all his units around the left side of the map and snipes down Genius’s expansion, losing all but 3 of his units in the process.

Genius tries to break as QXC expands, but bunkers are already in place and a drop in his own main prompts him to swing back. QXC tries his luck with ghosts, looking to do some damage, but force fields and council upgrades decimate his army. Phoenixes rule the sky for Genius, high Templars are added into his army, and the food difference grows larger with every minute. Genius tries a small attack to take down the third, but a planetary fortress is there, doing its planetary fortressing things.

Genius stays on 3 bases while QXC continuously expands, and as Genius denies QXC’s gold, both sides trade armies. While Genius’s army looks exponentially scarier, the food lead is in QXC’s favor and the map is now evenly split. Once again Genius takes down the gold, this time after a session of carpet storming. QXC replies by nuking the 9’o clock expansion! Minimal probe casualties.

The war of attrition begins as QXC is down to one fully functioning base, while Genius is looking healthy with two. QXC carries on with his nukes, effectively halt Genius’s resource pool. QXC’s army is simply much more cost effective, and while battles have been bitterly close, the end result is a 164-57 food lead, catapulting QXC into the RO16 and making this the longest game of TSL3 thus far. [47:52]

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(Z)NesTea < 1-2 > [image loading] (T)GoOdy
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Z2 (Z)NesTea < Shakuras Plateau > (T)GoOdy T7

Goody delays his gas to make a quick CC, while NesTea goes hatch first. Goody carries on with his traditional mech play off of 2 bases, but NesTea already has four and 96 drones. Goody pushes forward with his mech army, only to get stopped by a huge amount of roaches and banelings. NesTea takes this opportunity to expand all over the map, putting down 3 more hatcheries.

As Goody puts down his fourth base, NesTea attempts to be sneaky and use burrowed roaches to get in range of the siege tanks, but his plan is foiled by a single missile turret. Goody counterpushes, but the brood lords finish just in time to force the mech army to pull back. Without proper air defense, Goody is forced to gg. [25:21]

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Z1 (Z)NesTea < Xel'Naga Caverns > (T)GoOdy T7

NesTea steals a gas, knowing Goody’s possible playstyle from the first game. While his advanced bunker fails, Goody attacks as soon as his first medivac is out with marines/hellions. This caught NesTea completely off-guard, and he was forced to abandon his natural for a short period of time. Goody follows up with banshees and blue flamed hellions, and without a single roach or spine crawler, NesTea ggs. [13:58]

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Z2 (Z)NesTea < Tal'Darim Altar > (T)GoOdy T8

Goody opens two factories, with siege tanks coming out of one and hellions the other. Goody sieges below NesTea’s natural, seconds before NesTea could properly place down a spine crawler. NesTea throws a wave of speedlings to counterattack, but they become less and less effective as the number of blue flamed hellions stock up at home. A second wave caught Goody looking away for a second, and reduces Goody’s SCV count to 11.

After taking down NesTea’s natural, Goody pulls back because a roach threat is coming his way. The attack is suspended for a second as Goody has hellions roasting drones at the top expansion, heeding help from zerglings all the way across the map. Goody tries again, this time his hellions met an immovable roach wall.

Goody once again sieges under the natural, but this time, NesTea goes forward for a counterattack, base trade style. While the number of roaches dwindles down to units popping out at Goody’s base, there is simply no resistance at NesTea’s, and he proceeds to lose all three expansions and its associated number of drones, with Goody meching it to the RO16. [24:59]

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P8 (P)NaNiwa < Tal'Darim Altar > (Z)Ret Z5

Ret doubles expand as his overlord peaks at Naniwa’s forge expansion. Naniwa is forced to destroy his forge to make an opening, and Ret doesn’t seem to be stopping drone production anytime soon. As Naniwa grabs his third, Ret makes a total of 30 roaches, researching overlord drop and getting ready to rain down on Naniwa’s natural with roaches and lings. Ret harasses all three mining locations at once, but suffers great damage for minimal probe kills.

Ret finally gets zergling speed 16 minutes into the game, while making hydralisks, mutalisks, and grabbing a fourth. With blink and observers, Naniwa fends off all attempts to ruin his economy, and pushes out near max. With a stronger composition and flashy blink micro, Naniwa took the decisive battle with dozens of stalkers to spare, and runs up the ramp to take game 1. [19:52]

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P2 (P)NaNiwa < Metalopolis > (Z)Ret Z8

With the probe blocking his expansion, Ret makes his hatchery spaces away from its ideal spot, refusing to deviate from his master plan. Naniwa 3 gates expand behind a nice amount of sentries, while Ret is on 4 hatches with 2 mining bases, and a third to come. Naniwa’s passivity gives Ret an early 30 food lead, entirely in workers.

Ret takes his half of the map, while loading up for a huge drop in Naniwa’s main. The drop gets denied outright, but with hive tech and a huge pool of resources to replenish, all Ret needs is just make room for superior units. Naniwa easily clears out the 12 o’ clock expansion, but 10 brood lords and 60 zerglings are on the way. With brood lords/zerglings/infestors, Ret rolls over Naniwa’s army, and with a constant stream of zergling to stay max, Ret evens up the game at one apiece. [21:14]

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P5 (P)NaNiwa < Shakuras Plateau >(Z)Ret Z11

Instead of expanding to his natural, Ret sneaks his hatchery at the potential third, confusing Naniwa, who is expanding himself. The natural eventually earns a hatchery for itself, and Ret comfortably sit back and macro. This time around, Naniwa pushes forward with 5 gates, bulldozing down Ret’s 8 o’clock expansion.

Ret masses up roaches to take care of the gateway units, and starts breaking down the backdoor rocks towards Naniwa’s main base. Naniwa catches the roaches in time to force field, but Ret tunnel-ly claws his way into the base. The roaches cannot handle all the warped in units and immortals and Ret hustles back to his third.

Naniwa counter-pushes, and even with hydras Ret still cannot hold. Ret remakes his third near his base, while Naniwa 6 o’clock base is perfectly safe from any aggression. Naniwa sniffs out the expansion again, and there was just no time for Ret to fully react. Naniwa, confident from his 50 supply lead, storms in and was met with little resistance. Ret’s army vanishes in a matter of seconds, and Naniwa pulls an upset on the Dutch maestro. [22:51]

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Post-game Interview


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Q: Congratulations, you just beat MVP 2-0. How do you feel?

I am satisfied, especially because I trained really hard to have a chance to beat him.

Q: Rate your play today. Do you think you played good? Average? Excellent?

I think I played very well, safe macro like I know, but it is the training that made the difference I think. He doesn't know me but I've seen many games of him, so I tried to make a strategy to counter him - forge upgrade, and many zealots + blink stalkers. I know he likes to play mass marauder + medivac, and harass with drop or splitting his army to counter an expo, so I played the mobility of stalker/zealot to counter his style.

Q: You won 2-0, but if you had to play game three, would you have gone for the same macro style? Or did you have any surprise rush or cheese strategy prepared?

The third map was Tal'darim, so I think this style was good on this map too, because this big map needs mobility.

Q: Your next opponent will be the winner of qxc vs Genius. Which opponent do you want to face, and why?

I prefer to face qxc because I know his style, and I think I have more of a chance to beat qxc than Genius. But I am pretty fan of Genius and to play him will be an honor .

Q: A lot of SC II fans thought foreigners had no chance versus the Koreans. Do you have anything to say to them?

I think foreigners have a chance, but they must believe in it.

Q: Any last comments?

Thank to Sarens for the training, thank to my fans for supporting me and enjoy those games.

Thank you and see you in the RO16!



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Post-game Interview


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Q: You just won your TSL ro32 match against Genius. Congratulations, and how do you feel?

I've got a big stupid smile on my face. I'm not sure I can really describe it in words. It's a big relief to say the least. Confidence is a slippery thing and after IEM I wasn't feeling too good. A big win like this really helps turn the momentum around. I was pretty scared in the second set on Xel - but I've got a lot of experience playing from behind and ended up taking it anyway. TL DR - I FEEL GREAT LIKE TIGER.

Q: In the pre-tournament interview, you mentioned that you were just focusing on your own game rather than trying to practice based on your opponent. What aspects of your play did you work on leading up to this match?

I had a build worked out for each map that I had practiced pretty extensively (probably 30 or more times each). Beyond that I just played with all the protoss I could - mostly europeans. I didn't really know what I needed to know in order to come out ahead against Genius so I tried to study the matchup as a whole, finding where various pieces fit into my style (spoiler - I used reapers & nukes)

Q: On that note, you used harassment tactics during all stages of the games to great effect. Is this a conscious effort on your part, or is it something that just comes to you naturally?

That's the style that I like playing. I like to get inside my opponent's head and keep them guessing on what I'm doing. In the later stages of TvP it becomes very difficult for either player to actually attack the other head on due to emp + storm + ff/colossus + viking positioning. My solution is mostly about maintaining an economic lead through harrassment and forcing big battles if I'm sufficiently ahead.

Q: During the second game on Xel'Naga Caverns, there were numerous momentum swings. Could you explain what was going through your head as you lost the lead on some occasions, and then recovered to take it back?

In my practice sessions my performances on Xel'Naga were my weakest. There was definitely a part of me that felt like I was going to drop Xel, especially if I played standard which is why I went for the early gambit on his nexus. I hoped to throw him out of his comfort zone by doing something a bit unorthodox and also thought it wasn't a terrible decision in general.

As far as losing the lead goes - I would almost say I'm more comfortable playing from behind than playing while ahead or even. For whatever reason I tend to end up behind quite a lot when I'm laddering and practicing and as I mentioned earlier - I have a lot of experience playing scrappy and crawling my way back into the game. My plan was to give every ounce of energy I had on xnc once I realized I was behind, either I was going to mentally exhaust genius (hopefully) or end up winning the game.

For anyone who watched IEM NYC I used a similar type of play against HuK on Scrap Station. There wasn't really space in my brain to worry - I was just focused on winning by whatever means I could so I focused on that.

Q: Alongside ThorZain, you've pulled off what many people might consider an upset. A lot of people doubted the foreigners' chances in this tournament. Do you have anything to say to them?

There are a lot of factors that determine how well someone is able to perform - one of the most important is the amount of effort and desire they have in the short period before they end up playing as well as during the games themselves. In general, the Koreans are going to be better than the foreigners but that doesn't mean that particular players can't rise above and compete with them directly. Predicting who is going to make upsets is extremely difficult unless you actively talk and interact with the players themselves.

Q: Your opponent in the next round will be the winner of MVP vs Adelscott. Who do you prefer to face?

Both have advantages and disadvantages - MVP has been slumping lately. Also my group at MLG is 2 terran and one zerg so preparing for him would help me in that regard. On the other hand - I've already prepared quite a bit for TvP... although Adel was actually one of my main practice partners to get ready for Genius. I would prefer MVP though so I can focus on just TvT and TvZ in preparation for MLG.

Q: Any last comments, shoutouts, imba complaints?

Thanks to all the protoss that helped me practice in the last few days and weeks. ToD, Adelscott were probably the most helpful. Yesterday I was playing ToD and went on a losing streak against him. After a number of games I asked him what I was doing wrong and he told me to "play better". I felt like he was insulting me at first but after I thought about it more I think it was the best advice I could've gotten. He was right - at the time the main thing I needed was to just raise my general level of play. In addition I'd like to give a shoutout to my new team FXOpen and I wish my old team ROOT the best of luck in the future.

Check me out on twitter and facebook. Thanks to all my fans for continuing to support me. I hope this series is the first of many on my path to redemption after IEM.

Thank you and see you in the RO16!



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Post-game Interview


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Q: Congratulations! How did you feel after the match?

Thank you =). I feel really great and I'm so happy right now, I was smiling the last couple of hours =).

Q: How did you feel you played? Did you feel you played as well as you could?

I guess I played very well, but of course I made some mistakes.

Q:How much did you practice for this series? Did you expect Nestea to play like he did? What did you do to specifically prepare for him?

I didnt really know what playstyle I had to expect, but I play so many cups and ladder so I'm used to just adapt very well to any playstyle. I practiced some, but the biggest part was just thinking about the best builds, my plan was to make a heavy macro build in game one so that he feels safe in game two and then suprise him there with the push.

Q: Many fans did not give you much of a chance. How do you feel about this now that you've won and "upset" a GSL champion?

Yeah, I looked in the bracket contest thread and I found one person who voted for me and like 30 who counted me out, so thanks very much to that one guy =).

Q: In game 1 you decided to go mech but his brood lords won him the game. What went wrong?

After the start I felt quite good because he lost a lot of lings, but after my first push I saw that he had 4 bases already running, but the game was still open as I saw the greater spire. The mistake was that I did not switch the starport to the reactor, I waited too long building vikings from the starport with the techlab.

Q: What was your plan for game 2? You did a 1-base rush that did a lot of damage.

As I said the plan was to surprise him after the macro build in game one and I knew he always likes to drone a lot, so I guess I punished him for that =).

Q: Game 3 was quite close, with both players doing counter attacks. What
was going through your mind during this game?


As I attacked his hatch I felt quite good, but then he killed a lot of SCVs with his lings and after that it switched between "oh fuck thats bad" and "nice, I still have a good chance to win". In the game, I was a little but worried about mutas, but as I watched the rep I saw that his lair was really late.

Your opponent next round is Ret or Naniwa. Who would you like to play?

Oh, I don't know, they are both really good and it won't be easy anyway, but I guess I would like Naniwa, because otherwise I have only zergs and that makes it a lot harder to always prepare new builds.

Do you have anyone to thank? What do you have to say to your fans?

Thanks for all the support and cheers, for the nice pictures and thanks to my team ESC-ICYBOX!

Thank you and see you in the RO16!



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Post-Game Interview


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Q: Congratulations. How do you feel?

I feel fucking great. I threw my fists in the air, as I do every time I have difficulty with an opponent .

Q: You said you were nervous during the series. Did you feel a lot of pressure?

The pressure I feel is always from myself, my goal is to be number one in the world. I know I'm not there yet but every time I lose I disappoint myself so bad and get a bit depressed.. and it's 10 times worse if it's against a player I've lost multiple times before against.

Q: How much did you prepare for this series?

I prepared everyday, at least 20 games with MorroW, LaLush, and cytoplasm.

Q: In game 1 you made many immortals after defending drops from Ret. Did you expect this strategy?

The thing is, immortals are basically x2 stalkers, and they have a lot more hitpoints and hardened shields. The opponent WILL get roaches against stalkers no matter what so it doesn't matter if I know his unit composition. As for his strategy I kind of expected it since Ret basically said my multitask sucked in an interview, so I knew I should be prepared for it.

Q: Game 2 you played much more conservatively, and your opponent defeated you with Brood Lords. What went wrong?

I played the exact same style as in game 1, but the thing is that he didn't. If I would have caught his brood lord timing I would have won but I forgot to send in an observer since I thought I had a sure victory, which cost me the game - not attacking him at the right moment.

Q: In game 3 you killed his third with early units, but his counterattack was very strong. Were you worried at all? What was going through your mind?

I have practiced my counter build a million times basically and I had it EXACTLY as I wanted it, BUT I overextended myself and didn't retreat at the right moment. It made me a little bit worried making me think "I knew I had this game so won with that attack and now I fucked up like a noob".

Q: Your next opponent is either Goody or Nestea. Who would you like to play and why?

I would like to play Goody because my style works very well against him. I'm a tactical player and so is he, but the difference is that my mechanics are 10 times as good as his which is why I have a big edge against him.

Q: You are the only representative from Dignitas in this tournament -- do you feel any extra responsibility? What are your goals for the TSL?

I always want to make my team proud, but they cheer on me and there is no "I have to win or kicked thing", we want to go forward together...The only pressure is what I set myself . My goals are the same for every tournament, Top 1. I am trying very hard to achieve this "Winner-mentality" because I think thats my biggest weakness.

Q: Anyone to thank? Any words for your fans?

I want to thank Morrow for all the time he put down on helping me prepare, I really appreciate it and I want to thank dignitas of course as well as, wishing Morrow all the best in Korea! I hope he does well .

Fans?

Haha. I want to thank all the fans I got, (if any) for their support. It always warms my heart when people support me even though I have a dark past .

Thank you and see you in the RO16!




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Shaman.us
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March 28 2011 04:40 GMT
#2
Props to qxc for being a huge badass
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Last Edited: 2011-03-28 04:41:31
March 28 2011 04:40 GMT
#3
naniwa fajting!
Sverige fajting!
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March 28 2011 04:41 GMT
#4
thanks!!!!!!!
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March 28 2011 04:43 GMT
#5
Amazing absolutely Amazing
Our community is built on our passion...
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Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia245 Posts
March 28 2011 04:45 GMT
#6
Love to see qxc progress further, but a shame to see MVP, Genius and NesTea knocked out. However, well played games by those who versed them, and another excellent writeup.
I wasted my nights, you turned out the lights, now I'm paralysed, still stuck in that time...
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March 28 2011 04:45 GMT
#7
I am liking naniwa more and more. That was a cool interview.
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Canada988 Posts
March 28 2011 04:49 GMT
#8
lol at Naniwa calling out Goody at his lesser mechanics.
FuRong
Profile Joined April 2010
New Zealand3089 Posts
March 28 2011 04:52 GMT
#9
Thanks a lot for these summaries. As someone who can't watch the games live, it's nice to be able to read what happened without having to troll through the LR thread (pun intended), especially since there is no recommended game voting in the TSL threads...

It sounds like a lot of these games were really exciting.
Don't hate the player, hate the game
Antoine
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States7481 Posts
March 28 2011 04:52 GMT
#10
I feel like we've seen Nani mature before our very eyes, definitely has a much better attitude than he did in the past. I couldn't help smiling when everybody was describing how they felt, I know just how it is to upset a favored opponent and you do feel like you're on top of the world.
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ianlr
Profile Joined November 2010
United States38 Posts
March 28 2011 04:53 GMT
#11
all are very good interviews
OsC
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada542 Posts
March 28 2011 04:53 GMT
#12
i wished there were interviews on the losers too and their thoughts on why/how they lost especially cause some were favourites to win
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
March 28 2011 04:57 GMT
#13
qxc back with some of his essay-length responses to the questions!

I want him to win the entire TSL3 so that he can write a friggin book about it for the post-tournament interview.

Cool to see some nice interviews from non-Koreans. They have way more personality, and they're much more willing to reveal their in-game thoughts. These players truly played amazing up until now, and I'm quite excited to see them in the Ro16.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
DeltruS
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2214 Posts
March 28 2011 05:06 GMT
#14
"After a number of games I asked him what I was doing wrong and he told me to "play better". I felt like he was insulting me at first but after I thought about it more I think it was the best advice I could've gotten." - qxc

Pretty cool quote. QXC already had what he needed in his playstyle; he just needed to improve every aspect of it.

MorroW is a perfect zerg practice partner. Naniwa is very lucky. He knows so much about the game and has super solid macro just like Ret.
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Murdoink
Profile Joined March 2009
Chile1219 Posts
March 28 2011 05:07 GMT
#15
these guys won lots of fans with these games
here's hoping naniwa wins next round
SNARF HWAITING
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
March 28 2011 05:08 GMT
#16
i'd like to see what the top Koreans players who were knocked out have to say about their matches.
Finality
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
172 Posts
March 28 2011 05:11 GMT
#17
This day was pretty nice and very fun to watch.

Everyone who was favored in the brackets lost, so it was like 4 upsets almost.
Looks like their efforts... were in Vayne. (*sunglasses* YEAAAAAAAAA)
Bart
Profile Joined November 2010
494 Posts
March 28 2011 05:15 GMT
#18
A huge day of upsets but very good games nonetheless. Thumbs up to the foreigners!
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Fan of: MKP, Select, MC, Kripp, Purge, JP, Qpad Red Pandas
DGenerate
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada140 Posts
March 28 2011 05:16 GMT
#19
i'd like to see what the top Koreans players who were knocked out have to say about their matches.


I'm highly interested in this as well. If Artosis could go on a mission Korea and get some interviews that would be great!
space_yes
Profile Joined April 2010
United States548 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-28 05:18:03
March 28 2011 05:17 GMT
#20
Can't wait for Day 4 Recap and Cruncher interview ^^
McKTenor13
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1383 Posts
March 28 2011 05:17 GMT
#21
Loved these interviews. Really glad to see exactly how excited these guys are to win "upsets." You can tell they all really prepared their asses off for their matches and they each deserve their win. Good Luck in the rest of the tourney! Ill be cheering y'all on!
If you can chill. chill. - Liquid'Tyler
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
March 28 2011 05:18 GMT
#22
Man that Nestea vs Goody game 3 was unreal! Terran mech so strong when reaching a critical number.
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
March 28 2011 05:18 GMT
#23
Great interviews, rooting for Naniwa all the way!
ZergZingZing
Profile Joined October 2010
Korea (South)119 Posts
March 28 2011 05:29 GMT
#24
korean players weren't even able to prepare for the TSL because of gsl and gstl
and the foreign players studied the korean players' styles and gameplaying mechanics for days
while the korean players had absolutely no idea how these foreigners play
I heard the delay / lag was pretty horrible (korean viewers on forums said there was a korean stream of TSL showin the players screen and there was noticeable 1~2 sec delay which made micro almost impossible)

but well done anyways
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
March 28 2011 05:30 GMT
#25
great stuff. everyone seems so well mannered. even nani
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
March 28 2011 05:30 GMT
#26
qxc continues to be a boss. I would love him to win the whole thing, his answers are just great reads
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
March 28 2011 05:35 GMT
#27
Great interviews from all of the winners. Could someone link me to a thread that talks about the "dark past" that naniwa mentioned in his interview. Or if you could explain it in this thread, that would work too. Thanks.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
hiyo_bye
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States737 Posts
March 28 2011 05:41 GMT
#28
I like Adelscott. Seems like he is very confident against Koreans, and perhaps he can take out Mc :o
Random
viii
Profile Joined March 2011
United States266 Posts
March 28 2011 05:45 GMT
#29
go qxc hope you go far
For those who came from nothing, and became something - DGK
Baltor
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States171 Posts
March 28 2011 05:46 GMT
#30
Damn, QXC gives good interviews. Gotta love that, I feel like I really got insight into how he was feeling / what he was thinking, rather than the typical "I will train hard and play better in the future."
EchelonTee
Profile Joined February 2011
United States5245 Posts
March 28 2011 05:48 GMT
#31
At first I was completely heartbroken at all the upsets, but now it seems like maybe we'll see new stars rise
aka "neophyte". learn lots. dont judge. laugh for no reason. be nice. seek happiness. -D[9]
Bart
Profile Joined November 2010
494 Posts
March 28 2011 05:51 GMT
#32
On March 28 2011 14:17 space_yes wrote:
Can't wait for Day 4 Recap and Cruncher interview ^^


aww u spoiled it for me. I was just about to watch game 3...
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Fan of: MKP, Select, MC, Kripp, Purge, JP, Qpad Red Pandas
climax
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1088 Posts
March 28 2011 05:54 GMT
#33
Yes Naniwa, you have fans! I am one of them and you played some amazing games. You have been my favorite protoss player for a while and you did great! Congrats and I expect you to get far in this tourney! Naniwa Fighting!!

Good job to all the winners!
Twitter: @JonathanRosales
najreteip
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium4158 Posts
March 28 2011 05:59 GMT
#34
Damn, Ret's interview really coming back to haunt him
I have no quote!
Troxior
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States168 Posts
March 28 2011 06:00 GMT
#35
Goody keeps making me love him more and more. Panzer general fighting!
Frotoss fan!
Rupyness
Profile Joined January 2011
52 Posts
March 28 2011 06:07 GMT
#36
cool interviews. Can't wait to hear nada's interview and crucher's
Sky Net
Profile Joined February 2011
United States134 Posts
March 28 2011 06:10 GMT
#37
Really impressed with all of these players. I was pleasantly surprised by qxc, because I've seen him play in the past and it seemed like he stepped it up to another level. <3 the reapers. Never seen Adelscott before this week although I'd heard him hyped up a lot. I get why: unique style and very fun to watch. Never seen Goody either and I'm always impressed with players who can win with a low APM, so WTG Goody. Naniwa was the only non-surprise for me. Anyone who thought it was an upset probably haven't seen his games vs other good macro zergs like Idra and Morrow. I'll be rooting for Naniwa and MorroW all the way this tourney (with honorable mention to WhiteRa and of course the zerg darkhorse: MONDRAGON), but <3 to all these players.
"Never surrender" -Billy Mitchell
JethroTV
Profile Joined December 2010
United States206 Posts
March 28 2011 06:11 GMT
#38
Goody is so well mannered -- He deserves more wins.
@JethroTV
Teeny
Profile Joined March 2010
Austria885 Posts
March 28 2011 06:15 GMT
#39
Great morning read!
Goody so mannered
tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
March 28 2011 06:17 GMT
#40
It's awesome seeing nani grow up. And him and MorroW battling everyday, no wonder they got so good together. I'm picking one of these two in the semis at least.

GoOdy my hero APM like me but 100x better truly one of the good guys. GL
MC for president
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
March 28 2011 06:19 GMT
#41
Great interviews, especially like Naniwas, I believe in his confidence to beat Goody.
GP
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1056 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-28 06:21:23
March 28 2011 06:20 GMT
#42
I hope Naniwa destroys Goody next round, nothing against Goody but his style of play is so boring and passive. His rush against Nestea game 2 was interesting but still overall I don't really care for his play (or mass mech in general).

Great interviews too by the way. I wonder, do these get translated and posted in Korean? I think that would be pretty cool for the Korean audiences.
ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
March 28 2011 06:20 GMT
#43
I am happy CrunCher beat idrA in a convincing fashion, but a few of the other games to me were regarded as upsets. I was quite sad about my favorite IM players getting taken out so early in the TSL, but this tournaments really shows how us foreigners are on equal standing with koreans in the SC2 Gaming scene.

The biggest upset of them all was not watching idrA with a professional interview.
Artosis : Clide. idrA : Shut up.
t3tsubo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada682 Posts
March 28 2011 06:24 GMT
#44
pretty sure adelscott in game 2 went nexus first build, not 1 gate FE. Otherwise, great job thanks for the interviews!
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
March 28 2011 06:26 GMT
#45
On March 28 2011 14:35 Dubzex wrote:
Great interviews from all of the winners. Could someone link me to a thread that talks about the "dark past" that naniwa mentioned in his interview. Or if you could explain it in this thread, that would work too. Thanks.


He has a bit of a history with being not so nice and bming, there was an issue with it last year regarding EPS and his involvement with MYM.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 28 2011 06:32 GMT
#46
GoOdy once again showing he's the king. I'm pretty sure I was that guy! One down, four to go. The king will be crowned.
BaltA
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Norway849 Posts
March 28 2011 06:33 GMT
#47
Cool interviews!

It's good to seee that their practise pay off!

Good job!
cheesemaster
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1975 Posts
March 28 2011 06:39 GMT
#48
NANIWA FIGHTING! of course you have Fans naniwa, your such a beast and what you did with MeatyOwlLegs account was impressive! Ive been a huge fan for a while and you are my favourite protoss outside of korea, and are only second to MC in my mind :D
Slayers_MMA The terran who beats terrans
Clearout
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway1060 Posts
March 28 2011 06:42 GMT
#49
So great interviews! Holding my breath for the day 4 ones Wonderful seeing the attitude change in naniwa aswell.
really?
thekibk
Profile Joined April 2010
United States116 Posts
March 28 2011 06:54 GMT
#50
On March 28 2011 13:53 Oscatron wrote:
i wished there were interviews on the losers too and their thoughts on why/how they lost especially cause some were favourites to win


I just want to see Idra's interview.
Corn is no place for a mighty warrior!
wristuzi
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1168 Posts
March 28 2011 07:08 GMT
#51
I feel fucking great. I threw my fists in the air, as I do every time I have difficulty with an opponent .


Badass.

Super interviews, I am both happy and sad about the upsets :D EU tearing it up!
MarineKingPrime ¯\_(シ)_/¯ // Naniwa ¯\_(シ)_/¯ // Morrow
Kage
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
India788 Posts
March 28 2011 07:15 GMT
#52
Go nAni Ninja! Really nice interviews here, I hope all these guys go on to the next round.

HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
March 28 2011 07:17 GMT
#53

Q: Many fans did not give you much of a chance. How do you feel about this now that you've won and "upset" a GSL champion?

Yeah, I looked in the bracket contest thread and I found one person who voted for me and like 30 who counted me out, so thanks very much to that one guy =)


<3 I'm pretty certain that i was the first one to vote for GoOdy in that thread, and i even voted him to be the champ! Go GoOdy
crappen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1546 Posts
March 28 2011 07:17 GMT
#54
On March 28 2011 14:51 Bart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 14:17 space_yes wrote:
Can't wait for Day 4 Recap and Cruncher interview ^^


aww u spoiled it for me. I was just about to watch game 3...



Tip: Do not read anything on TL at all, untill you have watched the VOD after something big like this. There will always be some kind of spoiler. I have learned the hard way a lot of times lately.

GSTL2: How I got spoiled
+ Show Spoiler +

I read the preview interview on Nestea on this TSL tournament, and the interviewer said "You won GSTL recently.." I thought that IM had won GSTL2, so I was spoiled and was sad for SlayerS, but then to my biggest surprise, SlayerS won after all. My head was exploding in different ways.
I guess the interviewer ment GSTL1
borny
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
China481 Posts
March 28 2011 07:21 GMT
#55
On March 28 2011 15:54 thekibk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 13:53 Oscatron wrote:
i wished there were interviews on the losers too and their thoughts on why/how they lost especially cause some were favourites to win


I just want to see Idra's interview.

Yeh that would be soooooo awesome. I don't care if it would be 100% imbalance QQ I just want to hear what he has to say.
Naniwa . July . Morrow . ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Go STARTALE!
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
March 28 2011 07:27 GMT
#56
qxcs interview are always long and awesome

qxc fighting!
Jaedong :3
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-28 07:32:58
March 28 2011 07:32 GMT
#57
Wow; i would love to see Naniwa give this interview a year ago - it's crazy to see how his attitude has changed! He looked pretty solid against Ret, sad to see Ret go down though

+ Show Spoiler +
All of Team Liquid's hopes now rest on Tylers shoulders..


Goody is so well mannered! He just took down supposedly the BEST zerg in the WHOLE WORLD and he just comes across so humble and calm haha! Insane..

I was a bit annoyed to watch the upsets from this day; but after reading the interviews it's cool to see the personality on the other side of it! Super happy for qxc as well haha go go FXO!

On March 28 2011 15:54 thekibk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 13:53 Oscatron wrote:
i wished there were interviews on the losers too and their thoughts on why/how they lost especially cause some were favourites to win


I just want to see Idra's interview.

+ Show Spoiler +
Do they do loser's interviews?
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
RolleMcKnolle
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany1054 Posts
March 28 2011 07:33 GMT
#58
On March 28 2011 16:27 ReketSomething wrote:
qxcs interview are always long and awesome

qxc fighting!

I don't know. Can't stand his style of explaining everything. Usually I'm skipping his interviews despite loving long answers from people...
VonDarkmore
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia193 Posts
March 28 2011 07:36 GMT
#59
Great interviews, its really good to see them all in high spirits after amazing games and upsets which just makes the TSL so much better, its become very hard to predict who will move forward now and that makes every single game interesting
One who understands much displays a greater simplicity of character than one who understands little
shinarit
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary900 Posts
March 28 2011 07:42 GMT
#60
Great games from qxc and adel, i never thought protoss can be sympathetic for me, but he made it so
Dont know which of them im rooting for in the ro16, both of them became a fan-fav for me.
Also goody deserves the panzer general title, all that mech and never give up, never surrender attitude.
T for BoxeR, Z for IdrA, P because i have no self-respect
My_Kaiser
Profile Joined March 2011
Afghanistan151 Posts
March 28 2011 07:48 GMT
#61
Worst Voting Streak 8 Wrong votes in a row
This TSL screw me up
Never gonna give you up. Never gonna let you down. San hwaiting !!!
Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
March 28 2011 07:50 GMT
#62
Thanks for the interviews. My Liquibets are not going well at all :/
Jaedong <3 | BW - The first game I ever loved
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
March 28 2011 07:51 GMT
#63
We need detective artosis to get to the bottom with this!

Nice interviews though :>
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
March 28 2011 08:04 GMT
#64
Great to see Naniwa getting it together - from a badmannered 4-gater to a self-critical, tactical macro-player. Good series.

I also like how Goody was intentionally preparing an aggressive style for xel naga. It's like Take said on his stream some time ago: Goody plays the same each and every match, on ladder, in clanwars, in tournaments and so on....and then, when it really, REALLY matters, he is able to bring out something different, which is then extremely surprising. I'm sure Nestea watched at least some games from Goody and was aware of his defensive macro-reputation, which made him the more vulnerable to the attack Goody did in game 2.
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
Starfox
Profile Joined April 2010
Austria699 Posts
March 28 2011 08:35 GMT
#65
On March 28 2011 13:53 Oscatron wrote:
i wished there were interviews on the losers too and their thoughts on why/how they lost especially cause some were favourites to win

They should have TaKe do them, the interviews would be so bm but hilarious at the same time. :>
Greek Mythology 2.0: Imagine Sisyphos as a man who wants to watch all videos on youtube... and Tityos as one who HAS to watch all of them.
Redunzl
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
862 Posts
March 28 2011 08:42 GMT
#66
sounds like morrow is really quite the baller.
ADELSCOTT fighting
DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
March 28 2011 08:56 GMT
#67
kew ex seeeeeeee!
cant wait for cruncher interview :D
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keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-28 08:59:02
March 28 2011 08:58 GMT
#68
Great interviews today from the winners. TSL is looking awesome, screw the haters.

Q: Any last comments, shoutouts, imba complaints?

Thanks to all the protoss that helped me practice in the last few days and weeks. ToD, Adelscott were probably the most helpful. Yesterday I was playing ToD and went on a losing streak against him. After a number of games I asked him what I was doing wrong and he told me to "play better". I felt like he was insulting me at first but after I thought about it more I think it was the best advice I could've gotten. He was right - at the time the main thing I needed was to just raise my general level of play. In addition I'd like to give a shoutout to my new team FXOpen and I wish my old team ROOT the best of luck in the future.


ToD is playing SC2!??!? I need me some replays....
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
March 28 2011 09:01 GMT
#69
--- Nuked ---
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
March 28 2011 09:07 GMT
#70
On March 28 2011 14:29 QckFedayN wrote:
korean players weren't even able to prepare for the TSL because of gsl and gstl
and the foreign players studied the korean players' styles and gameplaying mechanics for days
while the korean players had absolutely no idea how these foreigners play
I heard the delay / lag was pretty horrible (korean viewers on forums said there was a korean stream of TSL showin the players screen and there was noticeable 1~2 sec delay which made micro almost impossible)

You heard that they show the player's screen? It was casted from replays, they don't have any FPVODs.
Ragoo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2773 Posts
March 28 2011 10:20 GMT
#71
On March 28 2011 16:17 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +

Q: Many fans did not give you much of a chance. How do you feel about this now that you've won and "upset" a GSL champion?

Yeah, I looked in the bracket contest thread and I found one person who voted for me and like 30 who counted me out, so thanks very much to that one guy =)


<3 I'm pretty certain that i was the first one to vote for GoOdy in that thread, and i even voted him to be the champ! Go GoOdy


I have to disappoint you, I did it on page 3, you on page 4

Goody does this build from Game 2 a lot against Zerg (normally he elevators tho) and it is surprisingly effective. Nice that he plays mindgames again, he is really good at preparing strategies.
Member of TPW mapmaking team/// twitter.com/Ragoo_ /// "goody represents border between explainable reason and supernatural" Cloud
Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
March 28 2011 10:20 GMT
#72
these descriptions are a bit off. For example adelscott didn't 1 gate FE but he did 15 nexus...
RandyPinkwood
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany92 Posts
March 28 2011 10:22 GMT
#73
MC vs Goody in the Finals !! GoGo Goody
WC3 nightelf , SC2 Terran <3 moving buildings
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
March 28 2011 10:34 GMT
#74
Naniwa fighting, you've got plenty of fans bro.
UNeeK
Profile Joined January 2011
United States237 Posts
March 28 2011 10:49 GMT
#75
qxc officially does the best interviews of any pro-gamer <3 qxc, and dont forget to scan the island!
Black[CAT]
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Malaysia2589 Posts
March 28 2011 10:53 GMT
#76
Totally did not expect the results...
You mean ESPORTS isnt a synonym for SC2? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -Proud owner of a Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry Blue Switches- BW or SC2? Why not both?
rednax
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden12 Posts
March 28 2011 10:53 GMT
#77
Really entertaining games, cant really pick the one that are the most entertaining to watch. But I got so impressed of adelscotts playstyle, it was just so crazy macro oriented and so fun to watch. And Naniwa you got a new fan!
Kiarip
Profile Joined August 2008
United States1835 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-28 11:03:34
March 28 2011 11:02 GMT
#78
wrong thread sry =(
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
March 28 2011 11:19 GMT
#79
so proud of our foreigners
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
Cano
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland200 Posts
March 28 2011 11:24 GMT
#80
LIKE TIGER
Synystyr
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1446 Posts
March 28 2011 11:26 GMT
#81
To the OP, Ret vs Naniwa Game 2 shows that Naniwa won that game, not Ret. Just fix the bolding on the winner so that it shows Ret won ^^ Everything else looks great!
Sky Terran TvP V2.0: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=355839
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
March 28 2011 11:51 GMT
#82
On March 28 2011 16:48 My_Kaiser wrote:
Worst Voting Streak 8 Wrong votes in a row
This TSL screw me up


Join the club. My liquibet is screwed for this season.
I mean come the heck on... MVP, regarded as probably the second best player in the world after MC.. 2-0d by adelscot, who in all honesty probably isn't top 100 (this is just my personal opinion, but it's probably fairly accurate, all things considered). I wonder if these players have improved crazy fast and would have any luck in the GSL, or if the game is just too volatile.
Maybe it's just because appearantly probably none of the Koreans practised the slightly laggy conditions on the NA server.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
March 28 2011 12:16 GMT
#83
Aww yeah NaNiwa <3 your tha man
Forever Mirin Zyzz Son of Zeus Brother of Hercules Father of the Aesthetics
rednax
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden12 Posts
March 28 2011 12:21 GMT
#84
On March 28 2011 20:51 Euronyme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 16:48 My_Kaiser wrote:
Worst Voting Streak 8 Wrong votes in a row
This TSL screw me up


Join the club. My liquibet is screwed for this season.
I mean come the heck on... MVP, regarded as probably the second best player in the world after MC.. 2-0d by adelscot, who in all honesty probably isn't top 100 (this is just my personal opinion, but it's probably fairly accurate, all things considered). I wonder if these players have improved crazy fast and would have any luck in the GSL, or if the game is just too volatile.
Maybe it's just because appearantly probably none of the Koreans practised the slightly laggy conditions on the NA server.



I would guess that the EU/NA players have put down so much more time studying and training their builds to counter their respective opponent that the koreans didnt expect the level of play from the foreigners. And I dont think that the skill levels are THAT far apart that people think.
Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2280 Posts
March 28 2011 12:25 GMT
#85
On March 28 2011 15:24 t3tsubo wrote:
pretty sure adelscott in game 2 went nexus first build, not 1 gate FE. Otherwise, great job thanks for the interviews!


Yeah it was a 15-nexus and 15-gate just after.
Those games were really good, too bad I couldn't see sunday's games.
antilyon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil2546 Posts
March 28 2011 12:26 GMT
#86
QXC, thanks for being a total beast.
Dectilon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden50 Posts
March 28 2011 12:54 GMT
#87
I hope nukes get a buff soon. Either to damage or drop time.
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-28 13:09:23
March 28 2011 13:04 GMT
#88
On March 28 2011 20:51 Euronyme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 16:48 My_Kaiser wrote:
Worst Voting Streak 8 Wrong votes in a row
This TSL screw me up


Join the club. My liquibet is screwed for this season.
I mean come the heck on... MVP, regarded as probably the second best player in the world after MC.. 2-0d by adelscot, who in all honesty probably isn't top 100 (this is just my personal opinion, but it's probably fairly accurate, all things considered). I wonder if these players have improved crazy fast and would have any luck in the GSL, or if the game is just too volatile.
Maybe it's just because appearantly probably none of the Koreans practised the slightly laggy conditions on the NA server.

Yeah the man who got third at Assembly isn't even top 100, probably fairly accurate ...

btw Tyler gave Adelscott a 30-40% chance to win against MVP before the match
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
March 28 2011 13:11 GMT
#89
On March 28 2011 21:21 rednax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 20:51 Euronyme wrote:
On March 28 2011 16:48 My_Kaiser wrote:
Worst Voting Streak 8 Wrong votes in a row
This TSL screw me up


Join the club. My liquibet is screwed for this season.
I mean come the heck on... MVP, regarded as probably the second best player in the world after MC.. 2-0d by adelscot, who in all honesty probably isn't top 100 (this is just my personal opinion, but it's probably fairly accurate, all things considered). I wonder if these players have improved crazy fast and would have any luck in the GSL, or if the game is just too volatile.
Maybe it's just because appearantly probably none of the Koreans practised the slightly laggy conditions on the NA server.



I would guess that the EU/NA players have put down so much more time studying and training their builds to counter their respective opponent that the koreans didnt expect the level of play from the foreigners. And I dont think that the skill levels are THAT far apart that people think.


Yeah you're right. The Koreans never gave foreigners much respect in that light. MVP, being an ex-BW player, probably thought he could just roll past every non-Korean out there just like he could have in the BW days... I'm positive if he would have tried to do some research on Adelscott he could have won. Same with the other guys.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
March 28 2011 13:11 GMT
#90
Really awesome interviews by all players! <3

Goody and Naniwa fighting!
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
Taniard
Profile Joined June 2010
United States114 Posts
March 28 2011 13:27 GMT
#91
Love the fact that foreigners are performing and winning against the koreans! I think it's great that they're showing they are just as skilled as their counterparts. It's totally true that they just have to believe, you gotta do that against any player Great games guys!
An amateur practices until he can get it right, a professional practices until he can't get it wrong.
vdale
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1173 Posts
March 28 2011 13:44 GMT
#92
Loved the interviews. I'm your fan Nani, you are one of the few protoss who really impress me in some games.

I am glad that ToD is practicing with top players and doing well, I hope he will become as great as he was in wc3 one day. He also knows how to get the right mindset for important tournaments/matches or the preparation. Demuslim said in an interview that he helped him and now qxc said the same.

This TSL day made me really happy. Thank you goody, qxc, adelscott and naniwa!
Agathon
Profile Joined February 2011
France1505 Posts
March 28 2011 14:08 GMT
#93
ToD plays since January for Millenium team with Adelscott, Lalush, Tarson, Diestar and Stephano (and another one, Nex, but u dont know him i think ^^)

He made promissing results and trains much with top euro players. I'm pretty sure we will hear much more about him soon, as well as Grubby and Happy

"C'est au pied du mur, qu'on voit le mieux...le mur".
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
March 28 2011 14:17 GMT
#94
Those 4 guys are awesomely awesome.
Naniwa is so much more mature now, I'm glad for him because he's talented. I'd even say he's fucking strong.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-28 14:18:35
March 28 2011 14:17 GMT
#95
For adel vs MVP game 1, I think adel killed 4 marines (or 3 ?) and one scv with his zealot/stalker poke, not the other way around.
And game 2 is 15 nexus (before gate)
Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
March 28 2011 14:24 GMT
#96
Day 3 was insane, MVP vs Adelscott was so great.. I'm going to rewatch game two and that epic blink chase at the end again.
cYaN
Profile Joined May 2004
Norway3322 Posts
March 28 2011 14:28 GMT
#97
Wow, was really not thinking qxc could do it. Thought IEM was an indication that he wasn't putting in as much time any more due to studies or something. Clearly I was wrong. gg
cari-kira
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany655 Posts
March 28 2011 14:39 GMT
#98
On March 28 2011 13:49 Ruyguy wrote:
lol at Naniwa calling out Goody at his lesser mechanics.


The King will punish him for this insult ^^
Live and let live
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14899 Posts
March 28 2011 14:42 GMT
#99
On March 28 2011 14:17 space_yes wrote:
Can't wait for Day 4 Recap and Cruncher interview ^^


i agree w/ this wholeheartedly
DecoyOn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada45 Posts
March 28 2011 15:05 GMT
#100
I dont remember a single game that had cheese in them....
Everybody that won simply outplayed their opponents. Good job to winners, and prepare more to the losers because it seemed a lot of them were overconfident
Strayline
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States330 Posts
March 28 2011 15:53 GMT
#101
Just a note:

I liked the "Fan Reactions" in the Day 1 and 2 threads... not a huge deal but some of them were pretty good
SeraKuDA
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada343 Posts
March 28 2011 16:16 GMT
#102
Yeee NaNiwa!
teko
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada1197 Posts
March 28 2011 16:18 GMT
#103
This TSL will forever be known as... TSL3: The Rise of the Foreigners
rMadness
Profile Joined October 2010
United States50 Posts
March 28 2011 16:23 GMT
#104
DANG maybe koreans arnt so good after all :D awsome job to adelscott i wasnt expecting that
cronican
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada424 Posts
March 28 2011 16:30 GMT
#105
On March 28 2011 14:29 QckFedayN wrote:
korean players weren't even able to prepare for the TSL because of gsl and gstl
and the foreign players studied the korean players' styles and gameplaying mechanics for days
while the korean players had absolutely no idea how these foreigners play
I heard the delay / lag was pretty horrible (korean viewers on forums said there was a korean stream of TSL showin the players screen and there was noticeable 1~2 sec delay which made micro almost impossible)

but well done anyways


Well sir, I don't want to start shit. But not coming prepared to a match is their own fault. If you don't come prepared to a $15,000 first prize tournament you really should get rolled, Korean or not, Lag or not, no exceptions.

You can't take anything away from the foreigners performance just because they came prepared and the Koreans didn't. Preparation is part of the game.

I don't think that they will make that mistake again.
Suvorov
Profile Joined December 2010
294 Posts
March 28 2011 16:33 GMT
#106
On March 29 2011 01:30 cronican wrote:I don't think that they will make that mistake again.


That's the scary part. They are very 'angry' now and you can bet they will go all out on the korea vs the world matches. And on every subsequent event too. Run before it's too late ahahaha.
If you label every single aggressive strategy 'cheese', you are officially declaring yourself an incurable mental retard.
InvXXVII
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada242 Posts
March 28 2011 16:49 GMT
#107
Koreana played like noobs on day 3. Sad -_-
A good loser is still a loser.
StuBob
Profile Joined March 2010
United States373 Posts
March 28 2011 17:06 GMT
#108
GO GO qxc
I play RANDOM!
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
March 28 2011 17:34 GMT
#109
i think Idra vs Cruncher series confirmed the fact that zergs must pressure tosses. If tosses can just get their deathball, it's near imporssible to stop.
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
March 28 2011 17:47 GMT
#110
Very big fan of all these players. Well done.
Life is Good.
Loddigesia
Profile Joined April 2010
247 Posts
March 28 2011 17:55 GMT
#111
Great interviews, as always

I really like Goody's mindset, as he seems to be putting a lot of work to prepare for his matches, thinking of new strategies: "I would like Naniwa, because otherwise I have only zergs and that makes it a lot harder to always prepare new builds".
aka gorfou
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
March 28 2011 18:19 GMT
#112
On March 29 2011 02:34 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
i think Idra vs Cruncher series confirmed the fact that zergs must pressure tosses. If tosses can just get their deathball, it's near imporssible to stop.


He lost to a 6gate in game 3, and could have easily had game 1 if he didn't make a million corrupters to fight the mass void ray/stalker... remaking muta/roach would have been a better option.
EliteReplay
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Dominican Republic913 Posts
March 28 2011 18:22 GMT
#113
Nice naniwa and adelscott fighting!
if play random i can't call any race imba?
xaneda
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom56 Posts
March 28 2011 18:30 GMT
#114
On March 28 2011 14:29 QckFedayN wrote:
korean players weren't even able to prepare for the TSL because of gsl and gstl
and the foreign players studied the korean players' styles and gameplaying mechanics for days
while the korean players had absolutely no idea how these foreigners play
I heard the delay / lag was pretty horrible (korean viewers on forums said there was a korean stream of TSL showin the players screen and there was noticeable 1~2 sec delay which made micro almost impossible)

but well done anyways

people that have 15 hours a day to train don't even have time to practice? Keep making excuses bro, makes you look like an insecure nerd
ThorZaIN | Tyler | Ret
Fiamma
Profile Joined October 2010
73 Posts
March 28 2011 18:42 GMT
#115
On March 29 2011 01:30 cronican wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 14:29 QckFedayN wrote:
korean players weren't even able to prepare for the TSL because of gsl and gstl
and the foreign players studied the korean players' styles and gameplaying mechanics for days
while the korean players had absolutely no idea how these foreigners play
I heard the delay / lag was pretty horrible (korean viewers on forums said there was a korean stream of TSL showin the players screen and there was noticeable 1~2 sec delay which made micro almost impossible)

but well done anyways


Well sir, I don't want to start shit. But not coming prepared to a match is their own fault. If you don't come prepared to a $15,000 first prize tournament you really should get rolled, Korean or not, Lag or not, no exceptions.

You can't take anything away from the foreigners performance just because they came prepared and the Koreans didn't. Preparation is part of the game.

I don't think that they will make that mistake again.


You're right, MVP regularly loses units to probes when he doesn't come prepared.
AJMcSpiffy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1154 Posts
March 28 2011 19:13 GMT
#116
Adelscott and QXC played two of the best games I've ever seen, especially game 2 for QXC. I hope they make it really far (unless they're against each other next round, I don't remember the layout).
If the quarter was in your right hand, that would've been micro
Spitmode
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1510 Posts
March 28 2011 19:18 GMT
#117
need cruncher interview :DD
"Make house -> Robots come out of house -> Robots shoot lazers -> Someone wins"
Tanman
Profile Joined January 2011
23 Posts
March 28 2011 19:20 GMT
#118
MVP got rofl stomped
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
March 28 2011 19:51 GMT
#119
On March 29 2011 01:18 teko wrote:
This TSL will forever be known as... TSL3: The Rise of the Foreigners


TSL was never a SC2 competition until now. Koreans never competed before either.

The top players have always been pretty close.

I would have done well in the bracket competition. The only major surprise was Goody beating Nestea as I've said before. Every other match went as I expected.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38256 Posts
March 28 2011 20:13 GMT
#120
On March 28 2011 17:58 keV. wrote:ToD is playing SC2!??!? I need me some replays....


He's really rather good, very entertaining to watch generally too.

====

NIce interview from Nani, we're here cheering for you! He usually beats Goody handily, so I fully expect him to reach r8 =)
cronican
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada424 Posts
March 28 2011 20:21 GMT
#121
On March 29 2011 03:42 Fiamma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2011 01:30 cronican wrote:
On March 28 2011 14:29 QckFedayN wrote:
korean players weren't even able to prepare for the TSL because of gsl and gstl
and the foreign players studied the korean players' styles and gameplaying mechanics for days
while the korean players had absolutely no idea how these foreigners play
I heard the delay / lag was pretty horrible (korean viewers on forums said there was a korean stream of TSL showin the players screen and there was noticeable 1~2 sec delay which made micro almost impossible)

but well done anyways


Well sir, I don't want to start shit. But not coming prepared to a match is their own fault. If you don't come prepared to a $15,000 first prize tournament you really should get rolled, Korean or not, Lag or not, no exceptions.

You can't take anything away from the foreigners performance just because they came prepared and the Koreans didn't. Preparation is part of the game.

I don't think that they will make that mistake again.


You're right, MVP regularly loses units to probes when he doesn't come prepared.


I would include preparing for lag conditions in "prepared". For example, MC said that he planned to deal with the lag by not using a micro intensive strategy.
hitman133
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1425 Posts
March 28 2011 20:22 GMT
#122
Can't wait for Cruncher interview
Awesome Naniwa, very nice game yesterday
manicshock
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada741 Posts
March 28 2011 20:25 GMT
#123
TL DR - I FEEL GREAT LIKE TIGER.


Haha, love this. Qxc ftw.
Never argue with an idiot. They will just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
March 28 2011 20:30 GMT
#124
I think that Naniwa should be able to roll GoOdy's mech with plenty of immortals and his habit of not getting supply blocked all the time and queuing up 5 workers... also he had a nice interview.

I love how qxc added a tl;dr to his first answer, hoping that Adelscott beats him tho.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Contagious
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States1319 Posts
March 28 2011 20:54 GMT
#125
dick or not, I still like Nani. Dude's a good player but just doesn't give a fuck. Wish we would have cleaned his shit up before he was kicked off MYM though, would love to see him on that roster. :-(
ImBakedBro
Profile Joined October 2010
United States26 Posts
March 28 2011 21:19 GMT
#126
lol and for any1 who doesnt believe zvp is imbalanced in favor of toss watch idra's games it makes me just not want 2 watch starcraft anymore ;(

User was temp banned for this post.
"Stay on my cloud, i don't know what is going faster my green or my trees, just sit back and watch me blow it all"
TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
March 28 2011 21:34 GMT
#127
adelscott you are my hero. plz keep doing awesome THANKS!
~~! youtube.com/xmungam1 !~~
GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
March 28 2011 21:36 GMT
#128
Yesterday I was playing ToD and went on a losing streak against him. After a number of games I asked him what I was doing wrong and he told me to "play better".

LOL ToD never changes.
eSports Prodigy & Illuminati member.
skuttponken
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden5 Posts
March 28 2011 21:57 GMT
#129
haha naniwa is such a bad ass, got the crazy eyes too. (;
got home, got my lost on.
ntrz
Profile Joined January 2011
United States57 Posts
March 28 2011 21:57 GMT
#130
On March 28 2011 14:17 space_yes wrote:
Can't wait for Day 4 Recap and Cruncher interview ^^



i think most of TL.net is in the same boat with you. gonna be full of trollface.jpg imo.
TemplarCo.
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Mexico2870 Posts
March 28 2011 22:07 GMT
#131
I hope that in Day4 interviews they ask NaDa if he knows about the thread Nada's Body !!!
With an average game length of 7m36s over his 6 games in GSL3, this is a no-brainer. BitByBit pulls more SCVs than yo momma at a club on Mar Sara. ♞
teko
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada1197 Posts
March 28 2011 22:18 GMT
#132
On March 29 2011 04:51 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2011 01:18 teko wrote:
This TSL will forever be known as... TSL3: The Rise of the Foreigners


TSL was never a SC2 competition until now. Koreans never competed before either.

The top players have always been pretty close.

I would have done well in the bracket competition. The only major surprise was Goody beating Nestea as I've said before. Every other match went as I expected.


Yes, I know. But TSL 3 is the first major tournament that has top Korean players and top foreigners competing where the foreigners win more.

From here on, the foreigners will prove they can compete equally with the Koreans. It all starts at TSL 3.
Skank
Profile Joined October 2010
United States329 Posts
March 28 2011 22:31 GMT
#133
On March 29 2011 06:19 ImBakedBro wrote:
lol and for any1 who doesnt believe zvp is imbalanced in favor of toss watch idra's games it makes me just not want 2 watch starcraft anymore ;(


Out of place, off topic, and just total fail. Idra built 7 drones AFTER he scouted the push in the last game, his own fault for losing. Plus, he was a jerk about losing game 1. I can get past spoiling the game for everyone, but bringing in balance discussion and derailing the thread is just sad.
"To be honest, to play protoss is ridiculously simple" -NesTea
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
March 28 2011 23:52 GMT
#134
Big mistake from Ret to say that he will try to take advantage of Nani's "poor multitasking." Why would he reveal something like that?
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
Aquafresh
Profile Joined May 2007
United States824 Posts
March 29 2011 00:30 GMT
#135
Naniwa came off well in his interview. I like this rivalry he has with ret. You can tell both players want to beat each other really bad, but they are respectful toward one another without pouring on fake compliments, or engaging in false modesty. It is a healthy rivalry when both players drive each other to improve and consider beating the other an accomplishment. The complete opposite of these one sided rivalries we've seen spring up lately.
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
March 29 2011 00:33 GMT
#136
BE THE TIGER qxc, drink that tiger blood up.
the farm ends here
Barabossa
Profile Joined March 2011
Belgium8 Posts
March 29 2011 01:03 GMT
#137
Nice interview with Nani, a little bm towards Goody but that spices things up for the next round ). Looking forward to it!
Ridiculisk
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia191 Posts
March 29 2011 01:11 GMT
#138
It's really refreshing to see that the Korean players arn't totally dominating the pool.

This is turning into the best SC2 comp ever.

Go ESC.GoOdy
TAhackdZ.379 - Sc2sea.com Article Writer
inn0718
Profile Joined March 2011
Japan4 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-29 01:37:02
March 29 2011 01:35 GMT
#139
I am not at home while tsl can live stream work with androide phones? P.s i know it isnt related with this thread no where to ask
android 4life
Robinsa
Profile Joined May 2009
Japan1333 Posts
March 29 2011 14:50 GMT
#140
I love to see Idra lose just because of all controversy! Great day for foreigners anyway!
4649!!
slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
March 29 2011 17:03 GMT
#141
wow I would call that a day full of upsets
jaedong imba
aDd3z
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany885 Posts
March 30 2011 11:27 GMT
#142
Goody the Panzergeneral
Cj Entus | Effort | Prime | MarineKing | mouz | HasuObs
Sejanus
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Lithuania550 Posts
March 30 2011 13:33 GMT
#143
"Any last comments, shoutouts, imba complaints?"

Made my day
Friends don't let friends massacre civilians
Staklet
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden44 Posts
March 30 2011 21:38 GMT
#144
It's really fun that the underdogs managed to pull through and win over the big dogs!
No Surprises.
Heroism
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3 Posts
March 31 2011 02:54 GMT
#145
Adelscott played so amazing!
OGKruemmel
Profile Joined March 2011
Croatia270 Posts
April 04 2011 18:55 GMT
#146
naniwa is so arrogant
he isnt even thanking his fans ...
really really undfriendly
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