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[TSL] Day 2 Recap and Interviews - Page 16

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ttomelle
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden243 Posts
March 21 2011 21:08 GMT
#301
hm didnt like the biased commentary during the series huk vs hasu as well XD
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
March 21 2011 21:12 GMT
#302

I would definetly wanna play againts hasuobs. I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it).


Did nobody else notice MorroW's little baller imba statement? even if you don't agree with him, the way he said it is awesome.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
March 21 2011 21:15 GMT
#303
Oh no White-Ra vs. MC How unfortunate for White-Ra to meet such a strong vPer so early in the tournament!
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are three kinds of people in the world: those who can count and those who can't.
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
March 21 2011 21:25 GMT
#304
On March 22 2011 03:38 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2011 02:01 ZasZ. wrote:
MC is great, I'm not sure why he's getting so much flak for it. He is the best player in the world (right now) after all. It's also obvious (at least to me) that he's jesting for the most part, and enjoying his time in the spotlight. When it counts, his true nature comes out: wearing a TL patch in the GSL finals, reaching out to the foreigner community, etc etc.

Also this whole hero vs villain thing everyone has going with him is great for the community because people want to take him down. It's one of the things you need to make a superstar.

The difference between MC's BM and Ciara's BM is that MC's is in justified confidence and Ciara's is in bitter raging. There are obviously a ton of things Ciara could do to improve, so raging about losing to the best player in the world is a little immature.

The TL patch is a result of partnership between TL and oGs, not some shoutout to our community.

Disrespect is disrespect. If you want to observe a difference, then MC's disrespect is calculated while Ciara's is a result of uncontrollable emotion. Most philosophies would say MC's is worse.

If MC was like Flash/Jaedong/Bisu/Stork/Savior/NaDa etc, then his confidence would be a little more fun. But he's more like if Kwanro or Backho won a few starleagues in a row. It'll just be better for everyone when his reign is over.


I disagree that MC is showing any disrespect - if anything, he's showing huge amounts of confidence in himself - indeed, you would be perfectly right in calling him extremely cocky - but I don't remember when he actually outright insulted anyone else. He's honest about what he thinks his opponent's skill level relative to his is, and that's fine. I don't think that's disrespect. He never outright verbally BMs people like IdrA does. I do think that his "I'm the best and I'll crush everyone" attitude is still quite premature considering he's only won two GSLs, but I think that if anyone is justified in calling themselves the best right now, it's MC. From what I hear, MC was always very good but suffered from nerve issues, so he exudes extreme cockiness to help himself deal with them, and it seems to be working, so there's another point to MC's credit - he's not being cocky merely for the sake of it (though I don't deny that he also derives plenty of enjoyment from bragging ).

I sound like a huge MC fanboy and I definitely am, but let me justify my feelings a bit -, even though the TL patch may have not been a shoutout to the community, MC has done plenty of things to reach out to his foreign fans - most prominently, the english segments of his interviews and english twitter updates. It shows that he's been making sincere efforts to learn english, and if that's not a shoutout to the foreign community, I don't know what is, and I respect him for that, if anything else.

Oh, and all that aside, I greatly enjoyed your series against Strelok. The comeback in game two was incredible (I knew you'd won 2-0 from seeing the results already, and at one point I think there was a 50 food differential in Strelok's favor, so I was scratching my head wondering how you'd actually pull out a win), and that one hero Zealot really made my day.

S.O.L.I.D.
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States792 Posts
March 21 2011 21:26 GMT
#305
On March 21 2011 14:09 rysecake wrote:
Considering Ciara didn't even gg him, I'm perfectly fine with MC being an ass.


Yeah he has the right to be cocky against Ciara, even if you're mad that you lost you really should gg. It's the TSL, stuff like that goes on your reputation. I like MC's confidence though, yeah he's cocky but he's coming off winning the freaking GSL for the second time and he really is the best Protoss in the world so it's definitely justified.
suejak
Profile Joined March 2010
Japan545 Posts
March 21 2011 21:49 GMT
#306
On March 22 2011 06:26 S.O.L.I.D. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2011 14:09 rysecake wrote:
Considering Ciara didn't even gg him, I'm perfectly fine with MC being an ass.


Yeah he has the right to be cocky against Ciara, even if you're mad that you lost you really should gg. It's the TSL, stuff like that goes on your reputation. I like MC's confidence though, yeah he's cocky but he's coming off winning the freaking GSL for the second time and he really is the best Protoss in the world so it's definitely justified.

Haha, let's get the order straight on this. MC started out by saying Ciara was bad even before the match started. THEN Ciara didn't gg. And now MC is rude.

Just sayin'.
Are you human?
HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
March 21 2011 21:56 GMT
#307
On March 22 2011 06:49 suejak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2011 06:26 S.O.L.I.D. wrote:
On March 21 2011 14:09 rysecake wrote:
Considering Ciara didn't even gg him, I'm perfectly fine with MC being an ass.


Yeah he has the right to be cocky against Ciara, even if you're mad that you lost you really should gg. It's the TSL, stuff like that goes on your reputation. I like MC's confidence though, yeah he's cocky but he's coming off winning the freaking GSL for the second time and he really is the best Protoss in the world so it's definitely justified.

Haha, let's get the order straight on this. MC started out by saying Ciara was bad even before the match started. THEN Ciara didn't gg. And now MC is rude.

Just sayin'.


I thought MC said that "he's not that great". Sure, it wasn't a compliment, but it's not the same as saying "He's bad." It's the difference between tact and lack of tact. And the fact that Ciara lost to 3gate pressure with MC not losing a single unit makes MC's comment true in my eyes: He's not that great. That is, however, not the same thing as saying "He's bad".

Personally, I don't see Ciara's lack of gg as BM, since it really wasn't a good game, but since it seems to be plain old traditional manners by now, I can see where MC's coming from. In most tournaments people gg even when they get cheesed out in obnoxious ways.
Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-21 22:02:04
March 21 2011 21:57 GMT
#308
I seriously don't even see ogmsc being that BM here? He said his own opinion that he doesn't think Ciara and Loner are good, which is honesty. WhiteRa did win convincingly in the games that he didnt lose all of his units in an attack that left him unprepared for a counter. To someone with MC's deep knowledge of the game, it's safe to assume he can tell how good a player is. MC didn't BM WhiteRa at all, he acknowledged that WhiteRa has been very successful but is confident that he is better---when he has won all but 1 of his PvPs in GSL which was decided by SanZenith's clutch forcefield, there really is no reason to think otherwise.

I think he's just being honest. While it was BM of him to do the zealot dance and manner nexus in the GSL finals, it was a calculated mind-game. He later went on to say he respects July and thinks he's one of the best zergs. He didn't trash his opponent afterwards and say that July was horrible and didn't deserve to play him or something. He also beat SanZenith and later went on to say he believes San is one of the best protoss in the world. People saying they're tired of MC's cocky attitude baffle me, really. He never unnecessarily BMs his opponents beyond stating whether or not he thinks they're good, and acknowledges the people he has beaten if they did indeed play well.

Tyler stated he didn't like MC, and maybe since he is a member of Liquid he would know much better than me whether MC is truly a cocky BMer or it's just playacting, but as far as I can tell other Liquid members like Jinro and Huk really like him.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
PoopLord
Profile Joined May 2010
537 Posts
March 21 2011 22:05 GMT
#309
Cmon WhiteRa! DESTROY MC!!!!!
VuFFeR
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark38 Posts
March 21 2011 22:17 GMT
#310
I gotta agree. I can only see it benefiting the whole sc2 scene having a personality like MC.
Whenever I try to make my friends watch a sc2 match with me, the thing they are most interested in is who the two players are. Having a personality that is somewhat different from the average calm or raging nerd (the two stereotypes according to me) is a good way to make friends, who don't play the game, show interest in the game.

I hope White-Ra will take it tho'! ^_^
The only thing I know, is that I don't know anything
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
March 21 2011 22:18 GMT
#311
Is it me, or has this event drawn a huge amount of people to Teamliquid? Since day 1 of TSL 3, I havent seen fewer than 10.000 people online at all times..

I guess it just says how nice an event this has been so far!
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
S.O.L.I.D.
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States792 Posts
March 21 2011 22:21 GMT
#312
On March 22 2011 06:49 suejak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2011 06:26 S.O.L.I.D. wrote:
On March 21 2011 14:09 rysecake wrote:
Considering Ciara didn't even gg him, I'm perfectly fine with MC being an ass.


Yeah he has the right to be cocky against Ciara, even if you're mad that you lost you really should gg. It's the TSL, stuff like that goes on your reputation. I like MC's confidence though, yeah he's cocky but he's coming off winning the freaking GSL for the second time and he really is the best Protoss in the world so it's definitely justified.

Haha, let's get the order straight on this. MC started out by saying Ciara was bad even before the match started. THEN Ciara didn't gg. And now MC is rude.

Just sayin'.


Like HolyArrow said, MC did not say Ciara was bad, I believe he said something like he wasn't impressed by him or anything. It's VERY different to say someone's straight up bad (which MC didn't say) and that he didn't feel Ciara was anything special (which is along the lines of what MC did say). I can only guess that Ciara didn't GG because he was mad that he lost how he did as opposed to because of MC's pregame comments.
namedplayer
Profile Joined June 2010
844 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-21 22:26:26
March 21 2011 22:25 GMT
#313
um.. btw MC mentioned about his attitude a few month ago. What he said on playxp was like..

"sometimes people blame me because they think I'm rude to my opponent. ...well, I don't diss my opponent, I do express how good I am."

anyway It could be bm for some people, but is not like Idra's bm.
You know what I'm talking about
-RamPaGe-
Profile Joined March 2011
France17 Posts
March 21 2011 22:36 GMT
#314
Omg you guys are making such a big deal out of this. MC is cocky and Ciara was bad mannered by not typing GG, end of story. No need to write a freaking book about it lol.
PinkPrincess
Profile Joined July 2010
United States149 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-21 22:40:23
March 21 2011 22:39 GMT
#315
MC is awesome and I love his interviews. I hope he wins the whole TSL! :D
My recollection of MC's original comment was that he was relating what he was told anyway, not that he was familiar with Ciara and was saying that Ciara sucks.
Grumpity grump
cocosoft
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1068 Posts
March 21 2011 22:41 GMT
#316
I like MC's badass style. It maybe is a bit douchebag-ish, but somehow I feel some sympathy, and yeah, well... he's telling the thruth; best protoss in the world!
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
MyLovelyLurker
Profile Joined April 2007
France756 Posts
March 21 2011 22:47 GMT
#317
If White-Ra somehow wins, then TL is gonna explode. Big-bang style.
"I just say, it doesn't matter win or lose, I just love Starcraft 2, I love this game, I love this stage, just play like in practice" - TIME/Oliveira
wangabe
Profile Joined October 2009
United States5 Posts
March 21 2011 23:03 GMT
#318
Not gonna lie, didn't expect Huk's series going down the way it did but I enjoyed it immensely. I always thought Huk's micro was enjoyable to watch but seeing his opponent preemptively move back stalkers just as shots started getting fired at it made the PvP series extremely exciting. I am going to be paying more attention to formerly pro-level war3 players in the SC2 scene a lot more now. Can't wait to see if Ted or Grubby makes a successful switch to this game. Overall this series has been extremely entertaining and I enjoyed the casting on day2.
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
March 21 2011 23:03 GMT
#319
"However, I'm the best Protoss player in the world, and they will probably have to complain to the TSL administrators about having faced me in the RO16."

BALLER ALERT! BALLER ALERT! THERE IS A BALLER IN THE HOUSE!
Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
March 21 2011 23:04 GMT
#320
MC is just so awesome.
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