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MrSexington
United States1768 Posts
On March 28 2011 07:18 biggestnoob wrote: Lag is always an issue in these international games. There is going to be a problem until Blizzard introduces LAN play. User was temp banned for this post. Your name is very appropriate.  | ||
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caileen
Sweden28 Posts
On March 28 2011 07:25 Kennigit wrote: What does this mean exactly? Will they be routing new copper from west coast to korea? Will you be buying 5000 miles of ethernet cable? Stop. Talking. Garbage. As i work in europes largest open pit copper mine I shall gladly supply you with the copper for that much cable ^_^. On a serious note I am quite surprised by the comments. Also goody fighting! edit: me being terrible at my third language and trying to fix it to some extent... | ||
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starcraft911
Korea (South)1263 Posts
MC didn't seem to have any issues. I mean, I'm not calling them liars, but I guess I just want to believe it was relatively fair because I enjoyed the series.  Wow, im kinda feeling like teamliquid is my little brother and i need to protect him from a bully... -"NightEnd protoss can't even go into the preliminaries in our country, right? Lol this is hilarious. Idra made it to qarters of code S and without any spoilers he had a tough series and to my knowledge he played on US connections against a US player on the Us server. Tournaments are very interesting. a lot of the VERY BEST talent isn't even in code A yet and the competition is much more fierce there than for the players who've already made it so nightend not making it doesn't make him bad. He just wasn't the best on that particular day. College football is a good example..... now im rambling.. I hate seeing people talking bad about TSL when I just enjoyed it so much. | ||
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jaydee81
Germany119 Posts
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mamuto
United States88 Posts
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provrorsbarn
Sweden766 Posts
and keep in mind that if EU players meet KOR players , its probably the same in terms of lag....dont know about NA to KOR thingy.....cuz Im in EU | ||
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MrSexington
United States1768 Posts
On March 28 2011 10:03 mamuto wrote: Nada had some phenomenal micro, pulling his banshees as SOON as he saw marines running in on it... I doubt lag was that significant for the other koreans. I mean Lag doesn't explain MVPgenius sitting on two base with no upgrades for the whole game....... I agree. On the other hand with the MVP games, especially when the scouting marine and scouting reaper got killed by probe surrounds, those were both (-_-') moments for me. That being said, it might have gone both ways. It's hard to tell. | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + And for people saying lag decided the games, note that NesTea won that game. | ||
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
On March 28 2011 10:28 jalstar wrote: For the people saying lag wasn't a factor, watch: + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enRj7sC6dHM#t=14m08s And for people saying lag decided the games, note that NesTea won that game. That was either completely retarded by Nestea or on purpose because he was maxed. Notice how he moves his roaches back and forth there even after they got attack, no way that was lag. Also look at the production tab, he immediatly build a bunch of Curruptors afterwards. | ||
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halvorg
Norway717 Posts
On March 28 2011 10:35 FliedLice wrote: That was either completely retarded by Nestea or on purpose because he was maxed. Notice how he moves his roaches back and forth there even after they got attack, no way that was lag. Also look at the production tab, he immediatly build a bunch of Curruptors afterwards. Indeed, i noticed that too, he was without a doubt gearing up for a brood loord transition. Also if hes very smart maybe he tried to pull the hellions away so the ling/blings could clear out some of the tanks. I dunno, but if Im lagging and getting sieged i spam away to gtfo asap, i dont click back and forth indecisively. | ||
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SiZ.FaNtAsY
Korea (South)1497 Posts
I haven't watched the VODs yet so I don't wanna spoil myself of the result. I'll translate the reactions as soon after I watch the VODs if you guys don't mind! | ||
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GoodRamen
United States713 Posts
On March 28 2011 10:41 SiZ.FaNtAsY wrote: Hey guys I came back from work. I haven't watched the VODs yet so I don't wanna spoil myself of the result. I'll translate the reactions as soon after I watch the VODs if you guys don't mind! thanks xD | ||
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garlicface
Canada4196 Posts
On March 28 2011 10:03 mamuto wrote: Nada had some phenomenal micro, pulling his banshees as SOON as he saw marines running in on it... I doubt lag was that significant for the other koreans. I mean Lag doesn't explain MVPgenius sitting on two base with no upgrades for the whole game....... It wasn't as significant. He played from the oGs-Liquid house where the connections (to NA) are slightly better. | ||
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StarscreamG1
Portugal1653 Posts
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
On March 28 2011 10:43 StarscreamG1 wrote: Blizzard needs better servers, no doubt. Btw, the game between naniwa and ret had a totally different rhythm and micro. Were the 2 in europe? Yes, Ret is back home in the Netherlands now, Naniwa lives in Sweden. | ||
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StarscreamG1
Portugal1653 Posts
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CaptainFwiffo
United States576 Posts
On March 28 2011 10:28 jalstar wrote: For the people saying lag wasn't a factor, watch: ... Maybe too much has already been said about lag (and I'm not in a position to add expertise), but that did seem peculiar. I mean, even if he was suiciding the roaches to free up supply, why not unburrow them after they started getting hit so at least they could do some damage on their way out? Then again, I've seen Protoss players murder their own zealots to free up supply when maxed, when I'd expect them to send them on suicide missions instead so they could get some value out of them. Also, Goody is playing from Germany, no? So he'd be experiencing lag playing on NA too (maybe not as bad). And when Koreans were playing NA players, didn't they alternate servers or something so that both players suffered as equally as possible? The probe surround of MVP's marine and reaper was the other situation where I thought "hmm, maybe it is lag..." Maybe some Korean players will comment on the subject. Maybe that will make things worse. I have to think that Jinro's post on the subject is authoritative. After all, he was playing from Korea too. And some of the comments about lag seem implausible (the stuff about 2 second lag, or the oGs-Liquid house magically having a better connection to the US servers, etc.) | ||
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
On March 28 2011 11:01 CaptainFwiffo wrote: Also, Goody is playing from Germany, no? So he'd be experiencing lag playing on NA too (maybe not as bad). And when Koreans were playing NA players, didn't they alternate servers or something so that both players suffered as equally as possible? The probe surround of MVP's marine and reaper was the other situation where I thought "hmm, maybe it is lag..." Maybe some Korean players will comment on the subject. Maybe that will make things worse. I have to think that Jinro's post on the subject is authoritative. After all, he was playing from Korea too. And some of the comments about lag seem implausible (the stuff about 2 second lag, or the oGs-Liquid house magically having a better connection to the US servers, etc.) Yeah, Goody played from Germany, I heard DarkForce speak about the lag from here to the US server yesterday or the day before on a stream, he said that there definately is a noticable delay that you don't have when playing on EU. He couldn't comment on the KR to NA connection obviously but supected that it might be a bit worse than (probably right on that one). About the oGs-connection... Somebody said that it might depend on the ISP they get their internet from. That there were some ISPs who route their connection to the US through China and some through Japan or something... I'm no expert on this, but I'm quite sure that it's entirely possible to have better/worse connections to certain services or locations depending on the ISP you're getting your internet from. | ||
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nyc863
200 Posts
I'm sure they have direct fiber to US. Anyway the lag is noticeable compared to playing the AI or the campaign, and it makes perfect stutter step too hard to do (but imperfect stutter step is ok). I don't think it impacts much of anything else unless you've never felt it before. I'm not entirely sure but since some matches feel more laggy than others I wonder sometimes if the lag of my opponent is additive for both of us. In other words, playing a european hooked to NA feels twice as laggy for me as playing a californian hooked to NA. But bottom line is I don't see anything in the matches so far where perfect latency would have got them a win over a loss, unless the player was just depressed at it not feeling like a home server and playing badly overall. | ||
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Nidoa
Canada239 Posts
On March 28 2011 10:41 SiZ.FaNtAsY wrote: Hey guys I came back from work. I haven't watched the VODs yet so I don't wanna spoil myself of the result. I'll translate the reactions as soon after I watch the VODs if you guys don't mind! what are you doing at work??! Husky says to call sick. Cuz the games are sick.  | ||
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