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Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
January 08 2011 23:16 GMT
#41
So sad that I lost to ToD
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Zim23
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1681 Posts
January 09 2011 01:19 GMT
#42
Wow this thread just got crazy exciting for me. Seeing the points and the cutoff is making TSL3 feel brutally real now.
Do an arranged marriage if she's not completely minging, and don't worry about dancing, get a go-kart, cheers.
Suc
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1569 Posts
January 09 2011 02:28 GMT
#43
On January 07 2011 20:37 charcute wrote:
moundragon?? did he even played sc2? I mean, we didn't hear about him, I'm curious on his ladder performance.

It has been stated that he's ~3100 iirc.
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
January 09 2011 03:57 GMT
#44
Surprising that relatively few of the big names played in a qualifier for such a huge tournament. I mean, yeah there's eight, but you'd think you'd see almost every top player in these.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
January 09 2011 04:46 GMT
#45
On January 09 2011 12:57 Redmark wrote:
Surprising that relatively few of the big names played in a qualifier for such a huge tournament. I mean, yeah there's eight, but you'd think you'd see almost every top player in these.


There were a lot of other events taking place at the same time today iirc, so maybe they didn't want to double-book themselves. Or maybe some of the NA players are confident that they will win a NA TL Open and didn't want to waste time going for the EU one.
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
January 09 2011 05:48 GMT
#46
I think almost all top EU players played in this one. Even SEA players like Filthy and Moonglade did as well. There are some NA players missing like the Root guys of course but i guess they dont find it worth their time to play in EU lag ( although if SEA players can play in it, i dont see why NA players cant )

I like the cumulative format though. It will kill some of the arguments that so and so qualifies via a "weaker" server. Here's for a succesful next 7 TL opens.



NearPerfection
Profile Joined October 2010
232 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-09 07:14:39
January 09 2011 07:12 GMT
#47
On January 03 2011 21:29 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2011 16:51 sashkata wrote:
Why do you keep dancing around the meaning of the question?

Yes, technically It's not a requirement, but It may as well be one for all the difference It would make.
If you are the type of player that is not good enough to qualify by winning one of the opens and is trying to qualify through the points system not having accounts on both servers greatly reduces your chances of qualifying. This is undeniable.

I'm not asking you to change the way you are running the tournament. Like I said I'm sure you have "behind the scene/tournament organizers" type of reasons for running it this way. And that's fine. We can understand that. I just want you guys to stop pretending that the unfairness isn't there. Even if most likely It won't make a difference in the end.

Just because something sucks for you, or recreational players, does not mean you get to throw around the term fairness for no reason. Everyone has the same opportunity and the same cost to play tournaments on both servers. That's fair. That some people are better, which is their own accomplishment, so that it is more worthwhile to purchase two accounts, does not mean you did not get an equal chance at doing so. You did. It costs the same and you get the same for it. Your skill makes it less worthwhile to do so, that's fair too. Because oftentimes being lesser skill means you have less chance to qualify.

Your server argument is one that solely has its basis in the lack of skill and not in unfairness, as everyone has the same opportunity and cost of purchasing two accounts. The fact that you need two accounts to play on two servers is not something we control, but the opportunity to participate in these tournaments is exactly equal for every player.

What you are looking for is something that helps the recreational player to an advantage so that he will not have to do the same things professionals have to do (purchase two accounts). Sorry but we do not have such a thing in store for you.



Sorry but your definition of "fair" doesn't exactly seem all that fair. People went ape when it was discovered that thor all in was even stronger for people who had purchased the CE because the graphical size was bigger and hid more SCV's then the standard version. Basically the stance you are taking is that in a tournament, if you pay 60 dollar entrance fee, you get 4 tries to qualify and the corresponding points, and if you pay 120 dollar entrance fee, you get 8 tries to qualify and double the points. Imagine if it were like that in Courage, would be pretty ridiculous no?

Going along those lines it's pretty well known that people such as yourself who are lucky enough to get a Korean to activate your Sc2 account have an unfair advantage over everyone else because not only do you get experience playing against Korean Build Orders, but its quite simple for you to take those strategies over to other servers where players have no seen those builds.

Main reason i believe it is done this way is because TL wants thee best players to qualify giving them the most opportunities to do so, and the logic is if you don't have a Euro or US account your obviously not TSL material. Flawed or not looks like its the system here to stay regardless of its possible problems. Yes its 100% Blizzard's fault, but pretending its "fair" is not a good decision imo.
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
January 09 2011 08:53 GMT
#48
I think you're on the losing end of a semantics discussion. The word you're looking for is unfortunate; and with that we can only agree. It is unfortunate you have to buy the game twice to stand a chance at top level gaming. We are bummed about it too.

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SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10304 Posts
January 09 2011 10:31 GMT
#49
On January 09 2011 08:16 Pokebunny wrote:
So sad that I lost to ToD


loosing to a WC3 legend is nothing to be sad about
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
{ToT}REME
Profile Joined January 2011
United States30 Posts
January 09 2011 12:15 GMT
#50
On January 09 2011 19:31 SmoKim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2011 08:16 Pokebunny wrote:
So sad that I lost to ToD


loosing to a WC3 legend is nothing to be sad about

Agreed.
Congratulations to Kas. He played really well this Tournament.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-09 12:56:26
January 09 2011 12:55 GMT
#51
On January 09 2011 19:31 SmoKim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2011 08:16 Pokebunny wrote:
So sad that I lost to ToD


loosing to a WC3 legend is nothing to be sad about

Because he should've played better and won he really could have you know

On January 09 2011 14:48 dtz wrote:
I think almost all top EU players played in this one. Even SEA players like Filthy and Moonglade did as well. There are some NA players missing like the Root guys of course but i guess they dont find it worth their time to play in EU lag ( although if SEA players can play in it, i dont see why NA players cant )

I like the cumulative format though. It will kill some of the arguments that so and so qualifies via a "weaker" server. Here's for a succesful next 7 TL opens.
There were a few NA players who missed the checkin this time around who had signed up, like drewbie for instance.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
January 09 2011 15:00 GMT
#52
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TeMiL
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Peru545 Posts
January 09 2011 16:34 GMT
#53
admin try to fix the 3rd seed layout.
looks like:
seed
flag
player
instead of seed flag player!
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
January 09 2011 19:21 GMT
#54
On January 09 2011 12:57 Redmark wrote:
Surprising that relatively few of the big names played in a qualifier for such a huge tournament. I mean, yeah there's eight, but you'd think you'd see almost every top player in these.



The thing is most of them lost, that's why they're not there.
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
January 09 2011 21:21 GMT
#55
Not too many big names yet, but hopefully that will change in week 3 since the first two weeks have the Pokeridol and Homestory tournaments. Also, can't wait for the invites.
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-10 02:02:53
January 10 2011 02:02 GMT
#56
On January 10 2011 06:21 jalstar wrote:
Not too many big names yet, but hopefully that will change in week 3 since the first two weeks have the Pokeridol and Homestory tournaments. Also, can't wait for the invites.

We're hoping for the homestory guys to play the TL Open! We have planned it as a US tournament on purpose and have had contact with Takesen about trying to make it work. If he starts early on the day and doesn't cast till something like past midnight then it may be possible.
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thesmoosh
Profile Joined September 2010
113 Posts
January 10 2011 02:58 GMT
#57
I don't think being able to play in both NA and EU qualifiers is a big deal but, just out of curiosity, why didn't you just say players had to pick either NA or EU and stick with it. Was it concerns over smurfing, because that seems like it'd be easy to prevent.
debasers
Profile Joined August 2010
737 Posts
January 10 2011 12:14 GMT
#58
On January 10 2011 11:02 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2011 06:21 jalstar wrote:
Not too many big names yet, but hopefully that will change in week 3 since the first two weeks have the Pokeridol and Homestory tournaments. Also, can't wait for the invites.

We're hoping for the homestory guys to play the TL Open! We have planned it as a US tournament on purpose and have had contact with Takesen about trying to make it work. If he starts early on the day and doesn't cast till something like past midnight then it may be possible.



Even if some games happen at the same time, I'm sure they can be very flexible there. I mean, they are all there, it's very easy to talk to each other.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5281 Posts
January 10 2011 13:56 GMT
#59
Hey TL, it's totally unfair that I don't get to win TSL because I don't even own SC2.
And that I don't even have a computer.
And that my village don't even have electricity.

It simply isn't fair that someone who does have electricity AND a computer AND SC2 AND another SC2 account has infinitely larger chance of qualifying than me.

/sarcasm&hyperbole off.

(Seriously, I'd ban people for that shit)
mnck
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1518 Posts
January 10 2011 15:12 GMT
#60
I can already feel the hype for this tournament, SO awesome to see!

I think this will be the most important tournament of 2011, outside of Korea.I hope so at least.
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