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On February 17 2010 05:09 Azarkon wrote:
Idra thinks he's the best player on the foreigner's scene no matter what even when he loses, that's just the kind of person he is.
He is the best player. I don't even understand how people would argue he's not just because he lost.
Again: SC would be boring and predictable if the better player would always win. A Bo5 says nothing about who's better, except that one player is not WAY better then the other.
And again: Put IdrA against any other foreigner and let them play 1000 games. IdrA would win more than 50%. Makes him the best. Dead simple.
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On February 16 2010 20:33 IdrA wrote:
the thing is rax cc is already such a fragile build, you have to execute it absolutely perfectly to deal with any kind of aggression. canceling that cost me 100 minerals, half a cc build time, and i was going to be supply stuck. plus i had 4 scvs off mining early since he got first scout. he could have gone 1 gate triple nexus and still had 6 range goons hitting my bunker before the tank was out. mistakes do happen but a player of nonys caliber isnt gonna blow a lead like that, even if i survived. cancelling a cc is a misclick that can happen to anyone, itd take a lot more than that for nony to lose that.
Perhaps i just approach it differently than you.
If playing through that game would have put you even more on tilt than just exiting out of it, then i can't fault you for doing so.
I look forward to seeing more of your games Idra. You won me over quite a while ago. I love watching your games and i find what you do (both in bw and residing in the Korean environment) really impressive. You're one of my favourite players to watch.
kudos
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On February 17 2010 05:09 Azarkon wrote:
Idra thinks he's the best player on the foreigner's scene no matter what even when he loses, that's just the kind of person he is.
Yep because in order to be the best player you aren't allowed to lose, ever. Also, percieving oneself as the best player when you're an obvious top competitor is just horribly, horribly wrong. Gz on making some real solid points there.
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omg he has to be kidding , how can mondis prime go over ? i mean it just depens how active they are . he has skills (way more skills than idra) and so if he takes his seariously hes obviously better then them --.-- . Makes no sense at all.
edit: how can he predict that the most skilled player left in his opinion, not wins the tournement. Makes no sense again.
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i think he would be alot angrier than he was :p i guess losing to a friend was better than losing to some noob foreigner :p
great interview and i think idra has some valid points which is uncommon ^^
he seems to become more manner every day
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On February 17 2010 05:46 hifriend wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2010 05:09 Azarkon wrote:
Idra thinks he's the best player on the foreigner's scene no matter what even when he loses, that's just the kind of person he is. Yep because in order to be the best player you aren't allowed to lose, ever. Also, percieving oneself as the best player when you're an obvious top competitor is just horribly, horribly wrong. Gz on making some real solid points there.
I never said there's something horribly, horribly wrong with Idra's beliefs. Learn to read.
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On February 17 2010 05:49 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2010 05:46 hifriend wrote:On February 17 2010 05:09 Azarkon wrote:
Idra thinks he's the best player on the foreigner's scene no matter what even when he loses, that's just the kind of person he is. Yep because in order to be the best player you aren't allowed to lose, ever. Also, percieving oneself as the best player when you're an obvious top competitor is just horribly, horribly wrong. Gz on making some real solid points there. I never said there's something horribly, horribly wrong with Idra's beliefs. Learn to read.
Seemed like you were implying it, but I could have been wrong, so nvm then.
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On February 17 2010 05:18 kernl wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2010 05:09 Azarkon wrote:
Idra thinks he's the best player on the foreigner's scene no matter what even when he loses, that's just the kind of person he is. He is the best player. I don't even understand how people would argue he's not just because he lost. Again: SC would be boring and predictable if the better player would always win. A Bo5 says nothing about who's better, except that one player is not WAY better then the other. And again: Put IdrA against any other foreigner and let them play 1000 games. IdrA would win more than 50%. Makes him the best. Dead simple.
By ladder ranks, Idra is clearly the best this season. But whether he's the best foreign SC player depends on how you define "best." That's all there is to it.
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personally im very upset with idra losing
he deserved this way more than nony did. I could never imagine nony cheesing every single game, that was disgusting. A win is a win, im sure he has his fans
hope jf slaps him back to where he came from, if not jf then whatever zerg that gets to finals. People dont realize that nony isnt anywhere close to what idra is( and never was)
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Thanks a lot for the interview Idra and Artosis.
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On February 17 2010 06:00 sassy wrote:
personally im very upset with idra losing
he deserved this way more than nony did. I could never imagine nony cheesing every single game, that was disgusting. A win is a win, im sure he has his fans
hope jf slaps him back to where he came from, if not jf then whatever zerg that gets to finals. People dont realize that nony isnt anywhere close to what idra is( and never was)
lmao this is pure nerd rage
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On February 17 2010 05:06 love1another wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2010 04:56 Lefnui wrote:On February 17 2010 04:03 Subversive wrote:On February 17 2010 02:27 TwoToneTerran wrote:On February 16 2010 23:43 JWD wrote:On February 16 2010 23:30 Zplut wrote:On February 16 2010 23:02 IdrA wrote:
hows it rude to expect to win? its not like i said nonys a terrible person or even a bad player. hell predicting someones gonna lose 3 games doesnt even mean you think theyre worse than you. yeah can`t find the part where you imply that he is worse than you .... so what? I don't see why you are worked up over a professional competitor implying he is better than an opponent with idra's history you can't be naive enough to think this is all friendly jostling. There's difference in delivery. NonY said he was going to 3-1 IdrA. Why not get upset about that? IdrA says he's going to 3-0 nony, everyone has a massive rant about it. For gods sake the hypocrisy is amazing. There's a distinction between predicting a score in which you are the winner and guaranteeing a dominant win. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? If IdrA had simply said that he expects to win that would be fine. Here's what he said in reality: "Are you going to defeat Nony?" "Of course I will.""Will it be a 3-0 victory for you?" "Yes.""Hypothetically, if Nony wins, what would you say to him?" "I don't know, I've never really been a fan of thinking about situations that aren't gonna happen. Seems kinda like a waste of time."Those are all absolute statements. He didn't merely say "I think I'll win", he guaranteed a dominant victory. Let me make this very, very simple and clear: If you guarantee a dominant victory and then lose you will be mocked, as you deserve to be. I think it was pretty obvious that this part, which people keep quoting, was just sarcastic trash talk before the match to add hype/make drama. I don't think anybody could seriously interpret that pre-match interview as disrespect towards Nony. I thought it was hilarious and really made the series more exciting!
"Sarcastic"? That makes absolutely no sense. How could that be sarcasm? How could someone be sarcastic when they're guaranteeing a dominant win?
People are really grasping in this thread for any possible defense for IdrA, no matter how ridiculous or insane it may be. Why not be reasonable and just say "Alright, he was arrogant and got proven wrong"?
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On February 17 2010 06:23 Lefnui wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2010 05:06 love1another wrote:On February 17 2010 04:56 Lefnui wrote:On February 17 2010 04:03 Subversive wrote:On February 17 2010 02:27 TwoToneTerran wrote:On February 16 2010 23:43 JWD wrote:On February 16 2010 23:30 Zplut wrote:On February 16 2010 23:02 IdrA wrote:
hows it rude to expect to win? its not like i said nonys a terrible person or even a bad player. hell predicting someones gonna lose 3 games doesnt even mean you think theyre worse than you. yeah can`t find the part where you imply that he is worse than you .... so what? I don't see why you are worked up over a professional competitor implying he is better than an opponent with idra's history you can't be naive enough to think this is all friendly jostling. There's difference in delivery. NonY said he was going to 3-1 IdrA. Why not get upset about that? IdrA says he's going to 3-0 nony, everyone has a massive rant about it. For gods sake the hypocrisy is amazing. There's a distinction between predicting a score in which you are the winner and guaranteeing a dominant win. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? If IdrA had simply said that he expects to win that would be fine. Here's what he said in reality: "Are you going to defeat Nony?" "Of course I will.""Will it be a 3-0 victory for you?" "Yes.""Hypothetically, if Nony wins, what would you say to him?" "I don't know, I've never really been a fan of thinking about situations that aren't gonna happen. Seems kinda like a waste of time."Those are all absolute statements. He didn't merely say "I think I'll win", he guaranteed a dominant victory. Let me make this very, very simple and clear: If you guarantee a dominant victory and then lose you will be mocked, as you deserve to be. I think it was pretty obvious that this part, which people keep quoting, was just sarcastic trash talk before the match to add hype/make drama. I don't think anybody could seriously interpret that pre-match interview as disrespect towards Nony. I thought it was hilarious and really made the series more exciting! "Sarcastic"? That makes absolutely no sense. How could that be sarcasm? How could someone be sarcastic when they're guaranteeing a dominant win? People are really grasping in this thread for any possible defense for IdrA, no matter how ridiculous or insane it may be. Why not be reasonable and just say "Alright, he was arrogant and got proven wrong"?
Sounds more like you are grasping for straws to prove your point if anything.
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Hah, so many ridiculous posts trying to defend IdrA.
I don't see the problem. He was very cocky and arrogant and his predictions were completely wrong against NonY. Why is it wrong to make fun of him for that? He talks shit about other players and is cocky and arrogant all the time, why shouldn't people be allowed to make fun his loss?
You can't just behave like he did and make 3-0 predictions as if you are some god and then not expect to get bashed when you are completely mistaken..
He is just getting what he deserves, its nothing more than that. That's how it always is when things like these happen..
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On February 17 2010 06:23 Lefnui wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2010 05:06 love1another wrote:On February 17 2010 04:56 Lefnui wrote:On February 17 2010 04:03 Subversive wrote:On February 17 2010 02:27 TwoToneTerran wrote:On February 16 2010 23:43 JWD wrote:On February 16 2010 23:30 Zplut wrote:On February 16 2010 23:02 IdrA wrote:
hows it rude to expect to win? its not like i said nonys a terrible person or even a bad player. hell predicting someones gonna lose 3 games doesnt even mean you think theyre worse than you. yeah can`t find the part where you imply that he is worse than you .... so what? I don't see why you are worked up over a professional competitor implying he is better than an opponent with idra's history you can't be naive enough to think this is all friendly jostling. There's difference in delivery. NonY said he was going to 3-1 IdrA. Why not get upset about that? IdrA says he's going to 3-0 nony, everyone has a massive rant about it. For gods sake the hypocrisy is amazing. There's a distinction between predicting a score in which you are the winner and guaranteeing a dominant win. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? If IdrA had simply said that he expects to win that would be fine. Here's what he said in reality: "Are you going to defeat Nony?" "Of course I will.""Will it be a 3-0 victory for you?" "Yes.""Hypothetically, if Nony wins, what would you say to him?" "I don't know, I've never really been a fan of thinking about situations that aren't gonna happen. Seems kinda like a waste of time."Those are all absolute statements. He didn't merely say "I think I'll win", he guaranteed a dominant victory. Let me make this very, very simple and clear: If you guarantee a dominant victory and then lose you will be mocked, as you deserve to be. I think it was pretty obvious that this part, which people keep quoting, was just sarcastic trash talk before the match to add hype/make drama. I don't think anybody could seriously interpret that pre-match interview as disrespect towards Nony. I thought it was hilarious and really made the series more exciting! "Sarcastic"? That makes absolutely no sense. How could that be sarcasm? How could someone be sarcastic when they're guaranteeing a dominant win? People are really grasping in this thread for any possible defense for IdrA, no matter how ridiculous or insane it may be. Why not be reasonable and just say "Alright, he was arrogant and got proven wrong"?
Uhm... I'm personally more of a Nony fan than an Idra fan, but that was pretty clearly just some for-fun's-sake trash talk. And you're making it bigger than it was.
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Idra still talking shit after being defeated. Manner up, skill up, and shut up. I'm sure your B-team partners would win 3-0 against every player in this tournament regardless of "gay cheesy builds."
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On February 17 2010 07:01 Captain Mayhem wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2010 06:23 Lefnui wrote:On February 17 2010 05:06 love1another wrote:On February 17 2010 04:56 Lefnui wrote:On February 17 2010 04:03 Subversive wrote:On February 17 2010 02:27 TwoToneTerran wrote:On February 16 2010 23:43 JWD wrote:On February 16 2010 23:30 Zplut wrote:On February 16 2010 23:02 IdrA wrote:
hows it rude to expect to win? its not like i said nonys a terrible person or even a bad player. hell predicting someones gonna lose 3 games doesnt even mean you think theyre worse than you. yeah can`t find the part where you imply that he is worse than you .... so what? I don't see why you are worked up over a professional competitor implying he is better than an opponent with idra's history you can't be naive enough to think this is all friendly jostling. There's difference in delivery. NonY said he was going to 3-1 IdrA. Why not get upset about that? IdrA says he's going to 3-0 nony, everyone has a massive rant about it. For gods sake the hypocrisy is amazing. There's a distinction between predicting a score in which you are the winner and guaranteeing a dominant win. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? If IdrA had simply said that he expects to win that would be fine. Here's what he said in reality: "Are you going to defeat Nony?" "Of course I will.""Will it be a 3-0 victory for you?" "Yes.""Hypothetically, if Nony wins, what would you say to him?" "I don't know, I've never really been a fan of thinking about situations that aren't gonna happen. Seems kinda like a waste of time."Those are all absolute statements. He didn't merely say "I think I'll win", he guaranteed a dominant victory. Let me make this very, very simple and clear: If you guarantee a dominant victory and then lose you will be mocked, as you deserve to be. I think it was pretty obvious that this part, which people keep quoting, was just sarcastic trash talk before the match to add hype/make drama. I don't think anybody could seriously interpret that pre-match interview as disrespect towards Nony. I thought it was hilarious and really made the series more exciting! "Sarcastic"? That makes absolutely no sense. How could that be sarcasm? How could someone be sarcastic when they're guaranteeing a dominant win? People are really grasping in this thread for any possible defense for IdrA, no matter how ridiculous or insane it may be. Why not be reasonable and just say "Alright, he was arrogant and got proven wrong"? Uhm... I'm personally more of a Nony fan than an Idra fan, but that was pretty clearly just some for-fun's-sake trash talk. And you're making it bigger than it was.
If making arrogant statements and then getting beaten is a matter of "fun" then IdrA is a party.
On February 17 2010 06:59 Sean.G wrote:
Hah, so many ridiculous posts trying to defend IdrA.
I don't see the problem. He was very cocky and arrogant and his predictions were completely wrong against NonY. Why is it wrong to make fun of him for that? He talks shit about other players and is cocky and arrogant all the time, why shouldn't people be allowed to make fun his loss?
You can't just behave like he did and make 3-0 predictions as if you are some god and then not expect to get bashed when you are completely mistaken..
He is just getting what he deserves, its nothing more than that. That's how it always is when things like these happen..
Thank you. It was refreshing to read a post that actually made sense.
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On February 17 2010 04:02 Insane wrote:
FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU----
Man, I hate how scforall does not work for me.
In FF or Chrome sc4all doesnt load for me either, but it does in IE. So whenever there is a sc4all video i use ie to view it.
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