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Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
February 16 2010 19:01 GMT
#181
It's good to see Idra recognizing his legit defeat. It's a mature attitude to have, and judging from what he said he was clearly out-mind gamed in Game 5 if not also in Game 3, with Nony pulling off builds that he did not prepare enough for. Obviously he respects his opponent this time around, enough to say that he could not win a macro game against Nony vs. double nexus on a Protoss favored map, plus Nony being his friend, which is about as much as we're gonna get out of Idra

Meanwhile, mentally blocking out the CC cancel is probably a good idea. You don't want to dwell too much on that one, or else it'll haunt you for the rest of your life.

As for Idra's opinions about the other players, being a mechanics player he is clearly going to favor the other mechanics players. No surprises there. I don't agree with Idra's assessment of Mondragon, as I think Mondragon has really upped his game as of late, but then this is not something we can say without further evidence. JF - well, I'm a fan of his tricky play, actually, but I can see why a mechanics player would not respect that and call it "everything that's wrong with Starcraft." Still, you gotta respect the consistency with which JF pulls out the coin-flips, so to speak. No way he could win every reaver battle by just depending on lucky scarabs, and his cheeses mostly fail anyways.
Insane
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States4991 Posts
February 16 2010 19:02 GMT
#182
FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU----

Man, I hate how scforall does not work for me.
Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
February 16 2010 19:03 GMT
#183
On February 17 2010 02:27 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2010 23:43 JWD wrote:
On February 16 2010 23:30 Zplut wrote:
On February 16 2010 23:02 IdrA wrote:
hows it rude to expect to win? its not like i said nonys a terrible person or even a bad player. hell predicting someones gonna lose 3 games doesnt even mean you think theyre worse than you.

yeah can`t find the part where you imply that he is worse than you ....

so what? I don't see why you are worked up over a professional competitor implying he is better than an opponent


with idra's history you can't be naive enough to think this is all friendly jostling. There's difference in delivery.


NonY said he was going to 3-1 IdrA. Why not get upset about that?

IdrA says he's going to 3-0 nony, everyone has a massive rant about it. For gods sake the hypocrisy is amazing.
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AtomicReaction
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada57 Posts
February 16 2010 19:03 GMT
#184
Thank you Idra, for being entertaining before, during, and after all your starcraft games.

Also, for all those who have to jump down Idra's throat no matter what he says, jump off the freaking bandwagon. Trust me, it's way more fun when your delicate PC sensibilities aren't being offended by every little comment a professional competitor makes.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
February 16 2010 19:04 GMT
#185
JF is BackHo and Nony is Stork?

Awesome! BackHo crushed Stork many times with legit skills.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
February 16 2010 19:09 GMT
#186
One more thing, I agree with Idra that Nony is one of the top players in the foreigner scene. People who bag too much on the coming-out-of-retirement thing does not realize how good Nony was, and is. He is a genius, as far as foreigners are concerned, in terms of build-orders and mechanics. Idra could not have been defeated by anything less. If you don't believe me, watch Nony's streams. When he's not screwing around, he's a monster.
Chux
Profile Joined June 2009
Peru255 Posts
February 16 2010 19:11 GMT
#187
Starcraft chat and bossa nova yeah xD
MSL 2052-2053, here we go!
EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
February 16 2010 19:25 GMT
#188
the epitome of all that's wrong in starcraft

XD
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
February 16 2010 19:29 GMT
#189
If JF does manage to beat Nony (I don't think he will, but who knows), we should ask him what he thought about Idra's comments
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
February 16 2010 19:32 GMT
#190
On February 17 2010 04:25 EsX_Raptor wrote:
the epitome of all that's wrong in starcraft

XD

That's actually a pretty sexy title. I'd embrace it if I were JF.
SoL[9]
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Portugal1370 Posts
February 16 2010 19:43 GMT
#191
Good interview

The calm before the STORM!
I Can Fly...
tYsopz
Profile Joined July 2009
Norway215 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-16 19:47:38
February 16 2010 19:45 GMT
#192
Such a shame he went out, he is by far the strongest player in the tournament and no one else than Nony would be able to take a series from him. Now sen has the best chances of winning it, which doesn't feel right since he's not really a part of the community.

And idra, if you could upload your replay pack that would be totally awesome!
"I'm going to send them to a far far distant place called Disneyland. Safe and sound at their own convenience, at the fastest and cheapest rate." - Lee Sung Eun
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
February 16 2010 19:51 GMT
#193
TAKE IT BACK!
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8195 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-16 19:54:11
February 16 2010 19:52 GMT
#194
Artosis: No, no ones worse than Backho, alright? Okay, and what about Mondragon, you don't want to see him as the winner of this event either?

IdrA: Not really. He had his prime, he was the dominant player and he deserved his wins then. He's past his prime, he's not as good as the top players right now. I don't think he should win. I think Sen and NonY are more deserving, more skilled.


I laughed.

Plus bitching so hard someone who hasn't practice for a year and who get further in this tournament than him, who practice twelve hours a day, and who won the last TSL when he got miserably kicked out in the Ro8 is kinda laughable too.

Sometimes, I dream to ask him: "Why don't you switch to protoss if it's so easy to win?"
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Lefnui
Profile Joined November 2008
United States753 Posts
February 16 2010 19:56 GMT
#195
On February 17 2010 04:03 Subversive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2010 02:27 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On February 16 2010 23:43 JWD wrote:
On February 16 2010 23:30 Zplut wrote:
On February 16 2010 23:02 IdrA wrote:
hows it rude to expect to win? its not like i said nonys a terrible person or even a bad player. hell predicting someones gonna lose 3 games doesnt even mean you think theyre worse than you.

yeah can`t find the part where you imply that he is worse than you ....

so what? I don't see why you are worked up over a professional competitor implying he is better than an opponent


with idra's history you can't be naive enough to think this is all friendly jostling. There's difference in delivery.


NonY said he was going to 3-1 IdrA. Why not get upset about that?

IdrA says he's going to 3-0 nony, everyone has a massive rant about it. For gods sake the hypocrisy is amazing.

There's a distinction between predicting a score in which you are the winner and guaranteeing a dominant win. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? If IdrA had simply said that he expects to win that would be fine. Here's what he said in reality:

"Are you going to defeat Nony?"

"Of course I will."

"Will it be a 3-0 victory for you?"

"Yes."

"Hypothetically, if Nony wins, what would you say to him?"

"I don't know, I've never really been a fan of thinking about situations that aren't gonna happen. Seems kinda like a waste of time."

Those are all absolute statements. He didn't merely say "I think I'll win", he guaranteed a dominant victory.

Let me make this very, very simple and clear: If you guarantee a dominant victory and then lose you will be mocked, as you deserve to be.

SimonB
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1088 Posts
February 16 2010 19:57 GMT
#196
A lot more respect to Idra for doing this interview. I would still be completely pissed off if I were him.
Pacifist
Profile Joined October 2003
Israel1683 Posts
February 16 2010 20:01 GMT
#197
PokerStrategy.com TSL:
So if Nony goes double nexus every game, you might lose?

IdrA[Media]:
Nah, if he can get a free double nexus diagonal positions on Andromeda and still almost lose, it won't really matter what builds he does.

That's the real irony. Idra boldly proclaims that Nony's builds won't matter and then loses precisely because of Nony's builds.
Riding a bike is overrated.
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
February 16 2010 20:04 GMT
#198
honestly i cant blame idra that much anymore, he did get proxy all inned twice and cancelled his cc one game and still manged to take to to the fifth game.
savior did nothing wrong
love1another
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1844 Posts
February 16 2010 20:06 GMT
#199
On February 17 2010 04:56 Lefnui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2010 04:03 Subversive wrote:
On February 17 2010 02:27 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On February 16 2010 23:43 JWD wrote:
On February 16 2010 23:30 Zplut wrote:
On February 16 2010 23:02 IdrA wrote:
hows it rude to expect to win? its not like i said nonys a terrible person or even a bad player. hell predicting someones gonna lose 3 games doesnt even mean you think theyre worse than you.

yeah can`t find the part where you imply that he is worse than you ....

so what? I don't see why you are worked up over a professional competitor implying he is better than an opponent


with idra's history you can't be naive enough to think this is all friendly jostling. There's difference in delivery.


NonY said he was going to 3-1 IdrA. Why not get upset about that?

IdrA says he's going to 3-0 nony, everyone has a massive rant about it. For gods sake the hypocrisy is amazing.

There's a distinction between predicting a score in which you are the winner and guaranteeing a dominant win. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? If IdrA had simply said that he expects to win that would be fine. Here's what he said in reality:

"Are you going to defeat Nony?"

"Of course I will."

"Will it be a 3-0 victory for you?"

"Yes."

"Hypothetically, if Nony wins, what would you say to him?"

"I don't know, I've never really been a fan of thinking about situations that aren't gonna happen. Seems kinda like a waste of time."

Those are all absolute statements. He didn't merely say "I think I'll win", he guaranteed a dominant victory.

Let me make this very, very simple and clear: If you guarantee a dominant victory and then lose you will be mocked, as you deserve to be.


I think it was pretty obvious that this part, which people keep quoting, was just sarcastic trash talk before the match to add hype/make drama. I don't think anybody could seriously interpret that pre-match interview as disrespect towards Nony. I thought it was hilarious and really made the series more exciting!
"I'm learning more and more that TL isn't the place to go for advice outside of anything you need in college. It's like you guys just make up your own fantasy world shit and post it as if you've done it." - Chill
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
February 16 2010 20:09 GMT
#200
Idra thinks he's the best player on the foreigner's scene no matter what even when he loses, that's just the kind of person he is.
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