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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36379 Posts
February 16 2010 14:14 GMT
#141
i think its interesting that idra seems to get 10x more respect after this loss than he did after any of his wins
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25986 Posts
February 16 2010 14:15 GMT
#142
Awesome interview.

Thanks guys.
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kAra
Profile Joined September 2004
Germany1387 Posts
February 16 2010 14:20 GMT
#143
i enjoy this again, thanks idra.
mada mada dane
arbiter_md
Profile Joined February 2008
Moldova1219 Posts
February 16 2010 14:24 GMT
#144
I see why Idra doesn't like cheesy protoses, since as a terran it's so hard to deal with unpredictable from protoss side. I would like to know if you ever tried to play other races Greg, and how did you deal with other hard matchups like pvz or zvt? Which matchup seemed to be the hardest to you?
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wishbones
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada2600 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-16 14:32:56
February 16 2010 14:26 GMT
#145
On February 16 2010 23:14 Hot_Bid wrote:
i think its interesting that idra seems to get 10x more respect after this loss than he did after any of his wins

thats because he took this interview seriously rather than start the hype, hypes done right?
seriousness = he all-inned on this one. (he was being himself)
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seanisgrand
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1039 Posts
February 16 2010 14:27 GMT
#146
nice interview. thanks.
This is well below quality expected of a post in any forum. -Empyrean
Zplut
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany90 Posts
February 16 2010 14:30 GMT
#147
On February 16 2010 23:02 IdrA wrote:
hows it rude to expect to win? its not like i said nonys a terrible person or even a bad player. hell predicting someones gonna lose 3 games doesnt even mean you think theyre worse than you.

I was reefering to the fact that you were surprised you have to explain that "I would have 3-1 If I played Fe" thing because when you are telling people in every iview that you are the best, you gonna crush your opponent, 3:0 etc. then you really expect people to think "ah hey he surely doesn`t mean it that way he is just pointing out that his chances would have been higher with an FE" ... and btw that was not a "I expect to win" iview

PokerStrategy.com TSL:
So if Nony goes double nexus every game, you might lose?

IdrA[Media]:
Nah, if he can get a free double nexus diagonal positions on Andromeda and still almost lose, it won't really matter what builds he does.

PokerStrategy.com TSL:
Will it be a 3-0 victory for you?

IdrA[Media]:
Yes.

PokerStrategy.com TSL:
Hypothetically, if Nony wins, what would you say to him?

IdrA[Media]:
I don't know, I've never really been a fan of thinking about situations that aren't gonna happen. Seems kinda like a waste of time.

yeah can`t find the part where you imply that he is worse than you ....
wishbones
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada2600 Posts
February 16 2010 14:31 GMT
#148
On February 16 2010 23:02 IdrA wrote:
hows it rude to expect to win? its not like i said nonys a terrible person or even a bad player. hell predicting someones gonna lose 3 games doesnt even mean you think theyre worse than you.

it is in no way rude, to expect to win, hopefully im not shitting on myself here and mis reading. But you gotta have a winning attitude, maybe not full-blown IM GONNA WIN. But I HAVE TO WIN. Seems like that's all I'm seeing when they interview Hockey players from team Canada. GAME 1 Today boys, fuckin watch that shit!

Your absolutely right it doesnt mean anything to predict 3-0. I watched an olympic video two broadcasters one sweed, and one canada. Canada man said we will win 5-0! So swallow your words idra haters.
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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-16 14:47:17
February 16 2010 14:43 GMT
#149
On February 16 2010 23:30 Zplut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2010 23:02 IdrA wrote:
hows it rude to expect to win? its not like i said nonys a terrible person or even a bad player. hell predicting someones gonna lose 3 games doesnt even mean you think theyre worse than you.

yeah can`t find the part where you imply that he is worse than you ....

so what? I don't see why you are worked up over a professional competitor implying he is better than an opponent
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PiLLs( SLiP)
Profile Joined October 2009
United States9 Posts
February 16 2010 14:46 GMT
#150
a nigga gets his ass wrecked on a live national stream, why not be humble afterwords?

everyone already forgot all the shit he talked? lol



sszzerrrgssss LOL IDRA LISP
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Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6105 Posts
February 16 2010 14:51 GMT
#151
Nice interview!

Idra has matured alot.
#1 Terran hater
gro.ro
Profile Joined January 2010
13 Posts
February 16 2010 14:58 GMT
#152
On February 16 2010 22:14 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2010 22:10 damenmofa wrote:
On February 16 2010 21:32 ToT)SiLeNcE( wrote:
The best part of the interview was when Idra suggested that he would have won 3-1 if he would have gone one fac fe every game. Seriously. That's not how SC works! He always has everything completely figured out ("that's how things should go if I do this and that").

In my opinion that's a massive weakness right there. It's simply not the mindset that you should play Starcraft with...

its probably the polar opposite to mondis mindset, maybe thats why he doesnt like him and thinks Sen is a better player. He just cant appreciate/acknowledge that part of SC.

you have no clue what mondis mindset is because he lies through his teeth in every interview


dude that sounds a bit xenophobic. like you always expect the most negative out of people which are different than you. in mondragons case probably a delusive harlequin which is laughing in the dark while hiding his strengths and been glorified for his modesty..

i dont praise his "modesty", nor i thing he is something special in this regard. what i read out of his interviews is that he just doesnt feel comfortable in predicting or hyping himself up over another player.

when i would be in this situation it would be the same with me. even when i would
be the favorite i wouldnt analyse around about all possible outcomes or thinking about winning or not winning. i would just focus on my own strengths, possible strategies and be sure that i play my absolute best and the rest of the story will be told after the games. when its enough to win then its great.

but saying i will win 100% would feel personaly to me more like a lie or false than your so called "false european modesty" because aslong as I dont find out that I am some sort of invincible god, anything can happen to me and i would accept the fact that my real mindset: "we will see if its enough in the end; dont think of it beforehand" would be seen more of a korean boring style. just because of the fact that it still would be the most accurate description to my actual feelings, dont matter how its judged by people.

same feeling i had with ret in some videos. that he not always feels absolute comfortable in predicting himself in crushing left and right. but rather let the actions speak for themselves in the end.

but as a outstanding person I ofc dont care if someone feels more comfortable in predicting himself to win or not. I even also feel more hype when someone dares to make more tough calls. so thats welcome too without beeing a "must have".
PiePie
Profile Joined February 2010
United States248 Posts
February 16 2010 15:13 GMT
#153
Nice interview and I think IdrA is a nice guy haha

PS. I hope JF wins :D , only to see what IdrA says lol
RFG- Raging Flash Fangirl
Zplut
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany90 Posts
February 16 2010 15:15 GMT
#154
On February 16 2010 23:43 JWD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2010 23:30 Zplut wrote:
On February 16 2010 23:02 IdrA wrote:
hows it rude to expect to win? its not like i said nonys a terrible person or even a bad player. hell predicting someones gonna lose 3 games doesnt even mean you think theyre worse than you.

yeah can`t find the part where you imply that he is worse than you ....

so what? I don't see why you are worked up over a professional competitor implying he is better than an opponent

You know mb Iam just too nice or I got that behavoir from TKD where you always show respect but I dont think it`s ok to act like that what`s with talking down JF after he actually knocked out Terran and Withe-Ra, that guy delivered. Beeing beaten as the huge favorite and only professional and then in the iview the next best thing he`s doing is to talk down a guy who actually made it. So if you want to be a professional you either act like one or you are just like that BUT I really doubt that Idra would leave without GG or flame in a PL game or trashtalk like that in korea I don`t know why he has to act like an angry child it`s just sad.
wishbones
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada2600 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-16 15:19:21
February 16 2010 15:17 GMT
#155
On February 17 2010 00:13 PiePie wrote:
Nice interview and I think IdrA is a nice guy haha

PS. I hope JF wins :D , only to see what IdrA says lol


lmfao me to actually. good idea. gogo JF!

hmm seeing as the olympics is on, IM HOPING MY CANADIAN (Canasian!) counter part plays his best!
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bEsT[Alive]
Profile Joined July 2009
606 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-16 16:04:50
February 16 2010 15:54 GMT
#156
On February 16 2010 16:17 thunk wrote:
Oh, next time if you could figure out how to cut out the background music I think the interviews would be much better.

Thanks artosis!


They're at a cafe. What the hell do you expect?

There will be background noise.

They would have to change locations.

Thanks for the interview.

EDIT: As for IdrA's take on JF. Greg, you do realize the kid has barely any time to practice right? As a result, of course he's going to plan his BOs strategically to give him a shot. What the fuck you think NonY's been doing? Your argument is baseless.

He's already proved himself to everyone here.
If you obey all the rules you miss all the fun - Katharine Hepburn
PiePie
Profile Joined February 2010
United States248 Posts
February 16 2010 16:06 GMT
#157
On February 17 2010 00:54 bEsT[Alive] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2010 16:17 thunk wrote:
Oh, next time if you could figure out how to cut out the background music I think the interviews would be much better.

Thanks artosis!


They're at a cafe. What the hell do you expect?

There will be background noise.

They would have to change locations.

Thanks for the interview.

EDIT: As for IdrA's take on JF. Greg, you do realize the kid has barely any time to practice right? As a result, of course he's going to plan his BOs strategically to give him a shot. What the fuck you think NonY's been doing? Your argument is baseless.

He's already proved himself to everyone here.


IdrA's got haters, I guess he has to do a bit of hating himself lol... I just hope JF wins for kicks.
RFG- Raging Flash Fangirl
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
February 16 2010 16:13 GMT
#158
On February 16 2010 23:30 Zplut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2010 23:02 IdrA wrote:
hows it rude to expect to win? its not like i said nonys a terrible person or even a bad player. hell predicting someones gonna lose 3 games doesnt even mean you think theyre worse than you.

I was reefering to the fact that you were surprised you have to explain that "I would have 3-1 If I played Fe" thing because when you are telling people in every iview that you are the best, you gonna crush your opponent, 3:0 etc. then you really expect people to think "ah hey he surely doesn`t mean it that way he is just pointing out that his chances would have been higher with an FE" ... and btw that was not a "I expect to win" iview

PokerStrategy.com TSL:
So if Nony goes double nexus every game, you might lose?

IdrA[Media]:
Nah, if he can get a free double nexus diagonal positions on Andromeda and still almost lose, it won't really matter what builds he does.

PokerStrategy.com TSL:
Will it be a 3-0 victory for you?

IdrA[Media]:
Yes.

PokerStrategy.com TSL:
Hypothetically, if Nony wins, what would you say to him?

IdrA[Media]:
I don't know, I've never really been a fan of thinking about situations that aren't gonna happen. Seems kinda like a waste of time.

yeah can`t find the part where you imply that he is worse than you ....

You europeans just need to relax :D
JoMal
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Trinidad/Tobago1177 Posts
February 16 2010 16:16 GMT
#159
I really enjoyed the part about JF being backho and NonY being Stork.
Oh you mad cause i'm stylin on you
538
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Hungary3932 Posts
February 16 2010 16:17 GMT
#160
Idra did man up for this interview (not to mention gging every game).
I'm kinda glad they ended up adding that Idra is certainly a better player nonetheless, otherwise it just wouldnt have felt right:-p Villains can't turn alright just like that.

(Please dont bother replying to this post with saying that Idra is the better player, thats not really my point.)
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