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bigjmachine
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States314 Posts
February 16 2010 12:22 GMT
#121
Thanks for this interview
ㅈㅈ
ToT)SiLeNcE(
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany590 Posts
February 16 2010 12:32 GMT
#122
The best part of the interview was when Idra suggested that he would have won 3-1 if he would have gone one fac fe every game. Seriously. That's not how SC works! He always has everything completely figured out ("that's how things should go if I do this and that").

In my opinion that's a massive weakness right there. It's simply not the mindset that you should play Starcraft with...
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
February 16 2010 12:40 GMT
#123
On February 16 2010 21:32 ToT)SiLeNcE( wrote:
The best part of the interview was when Idra suggested that he would have won 3-1 if he would have gone one fac fe every game. Seriously. That's not how SC works! He always has everything completely figured out ("that's how things should go if I do this and that").

In my opinion that's a massive weakness right there. It's simply not the mindset that you should play Starcraft with...


thats the mindset i bet against

thank you
why so 진지해?
SoL[9]
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Portugal1370 Posts
February 16 2010 13:06 GMT
#124
Omg i have to afraid to even watch
I Can Fly...
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
February 16 2010 13:09 GMT
#125
thanks, watching now!

P.S i didnt get/never got that virus warning message
HEY MEYT
diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
February 16 2010 13:10 GMT
#126
On February 16 2010 21:32 ToT)SiLeNcE( wrote:
The best part of the interview was when Idra suggested that he would have won 3-1 if he would have gone one fac fe every game. Seriously. That's not how SC works! He always has everything completely figured out ("that's how things should go if I do this and that").

In my opinion that's a massive weakness right there. It's simply not the mindset that you should play Starcraft with...

its probably the polar opposite to mondis mindset, maybe thats why he doesnt like him and thinks Sen is a better player. He just cant appreciate/acknowledge that part of SC.
Savior: "I will cheat everyone again in SC2!" - SCII Beta Tester
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
February 16 2010 13:12 GMT
#127
Really impressed with Idra in that interview. +1 fan

I'd say he's got a pretty damn good mindset for sc and has done enough 1 fact fe's to know what he's talking about. Out of curiousity how does "SC work" ToT)Silence(?
Yhamm is the god of predictions
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
February 16 2010 13:13 GMT
#128
On February 16 2010 21:32 ToT)SiLeNcE( wrote:
The best part of the interview was when Idra suggested that he would have won 3-1 if he would have gone one fac fe every game. Seriously. That's not how SC works! He always has everything completely figured out ("that's how things should go if I do this and that").

In my opinion that's a massive weakness right there. It's simply not the mindset that you should play Starcraft with...

no. thats how things COULD have gone had i done that, past tense. just an analysis of the games that i mentioned cuz i found it kinda funny that i usually get shit for playing conventionally and that i lost this series in part because i used some non standard builds.
obviously hindsight is 20 20 and nony came out ahead in the mind games. its not like im claiming i shouldve won, it was my choice to use those builds and it was a bad one. theres no harm in looking back on the series and pointing out what could have happened had i approached it differently. in fact its productive to do so because how else are you gonna learn from your mistakes.
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IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
February 16 2010 13:14 GMT
#129
On February 16 2010 22:10 damenmofa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2010 21:32 ToT)SiLeNcE( wrote:
The best part of the interview was when Idra suggested that he would have won 3-1 if he would have gone one fac fe every game. Seriously. That's not how SC works! He always has everything completely figured out ("that's how things should go if I do this and that").

In my opinion that's a massive weakness right there. It's simply not the mindset that you should play Starcraft with...

its probably the polar opposite to mondis mindset, maybe thats why he doesnt like him and thinks Sen is a better player. He just cant appreciate/acknowledge that part of SC.

you have no clue what mondis mindset is because he lies through his teeth in every interview
http://www.splitreason.com/product/1152 release the gracken tshirt now available
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
February 16 2010 13:19 GMT
#130
interview was very nice, thanks artosis + idra
HEY MEYT
diehilde
Profile Joined September 2008
Germany1596 Posts
February 16 2010 13:21 GMT
#131
On February 16 2010 22:14 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2010 22:10 damenmofa wrote:
On February 16 2010 21:32 ToT)SiLeNcE( wrote:
The best part of the interview was when Idra suggested that he would have won 3-1 if he would have gone one fac fe every game. Seriously. That's not how SC works! He always has everything completely figured out ("that's how things should go if I do this and that").

In my opinion that's a massive weakness right there. It's simply not the mindset that you should play Starcraft with...

its probably the polar opposite to mondis mindset, maybe thats why he doesnt like him and thinks Sen is a better player. He just cant appreciate/acknowledge that part of SC.

you have no clue what mondis mindset is because he lies through his teeth in every interview

no I dont think so, he is a very fun and clever guy and I believe him when he says the things he says. He has a pretty strategical/improvising style and there is no reason for me not to believe him cus frankly, he doesnt like bettering mechanics/practicing all day. What you see from him in his games corresponds with my impressions from his interviews and his RL decisions (not coming to korea to practice all day for example).
Savior: "I will cheat everyone again in SC2!" - SCII Beta Tester
ToT)SiLeNcE(
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany590 Posts
February 16 2010 13:22 GMT
#132
On February 16 2010 22:13 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2010 21:32 ToT)SiLeNcE( wrote:
The best part of the interview was when Idra suggested that he would have won 3-1 if he would have gone one fac fe every game. Seriously. That's not how SC works! He always has everything completely figured out ("that's how things should go if I do this and that").

In my opinion that's a massive weakness right there. It's simply not the mindset that you should play Starcraft with...

no. thats how things COULD have gone had i done that, past tense. just an analysis of the games that i mentioned cuz i found it kinda funny that i usually get shit for playing conventionally and that i lost this series in part because i used some non standard builds.
obviously hindsight is 20 20 and nony came out ahead in the mind games. its not like im claiming i shouldve won, it was my choice to use those builds and it was a bad one. theres no harm in looking back on the series and pointing out what could have happened had i approached it differently. in fact its productive to do so because how else are you gonna learn from your mistakes.


I didn't mean to be harsh and I agree with you that post-game analysis is very important. I also (strongly) agree with the general statement that with conventional fe builds you would have fared much better. However I disagree with bold statements like "I would have won 3-1", and that's exactly what you said in the interview. There is no way of telling how those games would have gone, and that's my point...

It's like I don't have any problem with the "I'm gonna 3-0 him" statement before, as that is part of the general trash-talk that you are known (and in fact loved) for. However after a loss like that one, it just doesn't feel right to me to throw "I am the better player, under normal circumstances I would have won" into the face of every player you lose to.
wishbones
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada2600 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-16 13:27:08
February 16 2010 13:24 GMT
#133
idra did well, idra did what could be did given the circumstances, man it reminds me of the recent snowboarding cross in vancouver. Such a steal by the american after the canadian hit the slope a tad to early, almost as if to cancel his cc?! yep. gj idra nice interview! and no dwelling on that either!
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Muff2n
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United Kingdom250 Posts
February 16 2010 13:34 GMT
#134
Thanks for the interview.

What I am really dieing for is Idra's rep pack though!

And I have yet to win a game after canceling my 1st cc by mistake
WaveMotion
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States147 Posts
February 16 2010 13:36 GMT
#135
Idra should have won this tsl...
In heaven, everything is fine.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
February 16 2010 13:38 GMT
#136
On February 16 2010 22:22 ToT)SiLeNcE( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2010 22:13 IdrA wrote:
On February 16 2010 21:32 ToT)SiLeNcE( wrote:
The best part of the interview was when Idra suggested that he would have won 3-1 if he would have gone one fac fe every game. Seriously. That's not how SC works! He always has everything completely figured out ("that's how things should go if I do this and that").

In my opinion that's a massive weakness right there. It's simply not the mindset that you should play Starcraft with...

no. thats how things COULD have gone had i done that, past tense. just an analysis of the games that i mentioned cuz i found it kinda funny that i usually get shit for playing conventionally and that i lost this series in part because i used some non standard builds.
obviously hindsight is 20 20 and nony came out ahead in the mind games. its not like im claiming i shouldve won, it was my choice to use those builds and it was a bad one. theres no harm in looking back on the series and pointing out what could have happened had i approached it differently. in fact its productive to do so because how else are you gonna learn from your mistakes.


I didn't mean to be harsh and I agree with you that post-game analysis is very important. I also (strongly) agree with the general statement that with conventional fe builds you would have fared much better. However I disagree with bold statements like "I would have won 3-1", and that's exactly what you said in the interview. There is no way of telling how those games would have gone, and that's my point...

It's like I don't have any problem with the "I'm gonna 3-0 him" statement before, as that is part of the general trash-talk that you are known (and in fact loved) for. However after a loss like that one, it just doesn't feel right to me to throw "I am the better player, under normal circumstances I would have won" into the face of every player you lose to.

you agree that conventional fe builds would have fared better, but then assume im saying im the better player by saying i think it would have been a 3-1? its not a comment on how good nony is, but on the fact that fac cc ebay would have been strong vs the builds he did in the 2nd and 3rd sets.
obviously im not saying a 3-1 was guaranteed had i only gone fac cc, nothing is guaranteed in sc and i didnt think i had to throw in a whole bunch of disclaimers to make that clear.
http://www.splitreason.com/product/1152 release the gracken tshirt now available
Zplut
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany90 Posts
February 16 2010 13:46 GMT
#137
On February 16 2010 22:38 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2010 22:22 ToT)SiLeNcE( wrote:
On February 16 2010 22:13 IdrA wrote:
On February 16 2010 21:32 ToT)SiLeNcE( wrote:
The best part of the interview was when Idra suggested that he would have won 3-1 if he would have gone one fac fe every game. Seriously. That's not how SC works! He always has everything completely figured out ("that's how things should go if I do this and that").

In my opinion that's a massive weakness right there. It's simply not the mindset that you should play Starcraft with...

no. thats how things COULD have gone had i done that, past tense. just an analysis of the games that i mentioned cuz i found it kinda funny that i usually get shit for playing conventionally and that i lost this series in part because i used some non standard builds.
obviously hindsight is 20 20 and nony came out ahead in the mind games. its not like im claiming i shouldve won, it was my choice to use those builds and it was a bad one. theres no harm in looking back on the series and pointing out what could have happened had i approached it differently. in fact its productive to do so because how else are you gonna learn from your mistakes.


I didn't mean to be harsh and I agree with you that post-game analysis is very important. I also (strongly) agree with the general statement that with conventional fe builds you would have fared much better. However I disagree with bold statements like "I would have won 3-1", and that's exactly what you said in the interview. There is no way of telling how those games would have gone, and that's my point...

It's like I don't have any problem with the "I'm gonna 3-0 him" statement before, as that is part of the general trash-talk that you are known (and in fact loved) for. However after a loss like that one, it just doesn't feel right to me to throw "I am the better player, under normal circumstances I would have won" into the face of every player you lose to.

you agree that conventional fe builds would have fared better, but then assume im saying im the better player by saying i think it would have been a 3-1? its not a comment on how good nony is, but on the fact that fac cc ebay would have been strong vs the builds he did in the 2nd and 3rd sets.
obviously im not saying a 3-1 was guaranteed had i only gone fac cc, nothing is guaranteed in sc and i didnt think i had to throw in a whole bunch of disclaimers to make that clear.

Strange thing people misunderstood that after your polite prediction
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
February 16 2010 14:02 GMT
#138
hows it rude to expect to win? its not like i said nonys a terrible person or even a bad player. hell predicting someones gonna lose 3 games doesnt even mean you think theyre worse than you.
http://www.splitreason.com/product/1152 release the gracken tshirt now available
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
February 16 2010 14:05 GMT
#139
Nice, Idra seems less devastated by the loss than I am as a fan.

Thanks for the interview!
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-16 14:10:48
February 16 2010 14:08 GMT
#140
wtb IdrA for having the patience to defend yourself in this thread
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