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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
February 15 2010 14:03 GMT
#21
On February 15 2010 23:00 JWD wrote:
fascinating….the misclick in game 2 prevented nony from having to reveal the build that won him the last game

Yeah I loved that ;]
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torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
February 15 2010 14:18 GMT
#22
it's so good to see idra actually losing!
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Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
February 15 2010 14:41 GMT
#23
Thanks a lot, my stream cut off for a bit during this interview.
No I'm never serious.
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
February 15 2010 15:01 GMT
#24
NONY SO GOOD!!!
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PiePie
Profile Joined February 2010
United States248 Posts
February 15 2010 15:54 GMT
#25
NonY has amazing insight
RFG- Raging Flash Fangirl
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
February 15 2010 16:08 GMT
#26
Awesome stuff, thanks for the transcript. I really want to hear IdrA's take on the whole thing though.
getSome[703]
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States753 Posts
February 15 2010 16:16 GMT
#27
I don't think we'll be seeing much of Idra for a while.

Nony comes off completely differently than Idra even though he's just as confident. Cooler and more refined I think. "I hope we can all stand behind Nony" lmaoooo :D
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petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
February 15 2010 17:06 GMT
#28
I don't think we'll be seeing much of Idra for a while.


Do you mean on teamliquid or in SC tournaments? Say what you want about his bm but I think this loss will just make him practice harder and prepare even more for the next big tournament. He has had meltdowns before and that is probably what led to him playing so hard that he is the huge favorite for every foreigner tournament.

Nony comes off completely differently than Idra even though he's just as confident. Cooler and more refined I think. "I hope we can all stand behind Nony" lmaoooo :D


I personally think that this is partly true and partly due to perception. If Idra gave this exact interview after a win I have a feeling people would be talking about his lack of respect for his opponents, but I could be wrong.

Also, Congratulations Nony and good luck!
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Tourist
Profile Joined January 2010
Germany55 Posts
February 15 2010 17:08 GMT
#29
I think the series would have been waaay better without that one missclick
but whatever, the better prepared player won. nony demonstrating that SC is a mindgame and the more clever player wins not the massgaming, mechanics only player. congratulations!
though it also shows how damn tough it is to play tvp vs a highly aggressive toss
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Oxygen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada3581 Posts
February 15 2010 17:56 GMT
#30
Fantastic interview, thanks for the transcript -- much appreciated.
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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
February 15 2010 19:39 GMT
#31
Good interview.

I think i'm in the majority when I say I REALLY want to see a follow up interview with Idra. Specifically, make reference to his answer regarding "what if you do lose" and his "i dont think about things that can't happen" remark.

Oo the drama!
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
February 15 2010 20:57 GMT
#32
Oh boy I'm not sure there's anybody who can stop nony now, he's looking so strong right now
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PangO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Chile1870 Posts
February 15 2010 21:30 GMT
#33
I'm so glad that NonY won, thanks for the interview Artosis, it really helps undestand how and why things when that way.
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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-15 22:19:20
February 15 2010 22:17 GMT
#34
On February 16 2010 04:39 On_Slaught wrote:
Good interview.

I think i'm in the majority when I say I REALLY want to see a follow up interview with Idra. Specifically, make reference to his answer regarding "what if you do lose" and his "i dont think about things that can't happen" remark.

Oo the drama!


I think this is kinda faux drama. He believes in the power of confidence and so he's confident. I think "what if you do lose" is an inappropriate pre-match question. I understand it's only there in response to IdrA's extreme confidence but it's still inappropriate. In fact, it's because of his confidence that it's inappropriate. A pre-match interview should hype the match. IdrA's answer is the only one a competitor can give because in a competitor's mind, before the match, losing is literally a thing that can't happen. Any other answer deflates the match. If you had some person without confidence, the interview is kind of a flop anyway and asking that question wouldn't make it any worse.

The fans ought to be excited when they get a taste of the competitors' conviction. But someone has to lose. Being a smartass to the loser isn't cool. There are places for that kind of messing around but I hope the community can agree, out of respect for the competition (that is possible only because an astounding amount of effort from the competitors), that the TSL isn't one of them. Focus on the matches, be happy for the winner and respectful of the loser.

I know I sure as hell couldn't be saying all this if I was the loser so I thought I'd throw it out there while I'm still alive.
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MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
February 15 2010 22:20 GMT
#35
nice, i was actually listening to this live
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YellowEmperor
Profile Joined October 2008
Taiwan100 Posts
February 15 2010 22:26 GMT
#36
On February 16 2010 07:17 Liquid`NonY wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

On February 16 2010 04:39 On_Slaught wrote:
Good interview.

I think i'm in the majority when I say I REALLY want to see a follow up interview with Idra. Specifically, make reference to his answer regarding "what if you do lose" and his "i dont think about things that can't happen" remark.

Oo the drama!


I think this is kinda faux drama. He believes in the power of confidence and so he's confident. I think "what if you do lose" is an inappropriate pre-match question. I understand it's only there in response to IdrA's extreme confidence but it's still inappropriate. In fact, it's because of his confidence that it's inappropriate. A pre-match interview should hype the match. IdrA's answer is the only one a competitor can give because in a competitor's mind, before the match, losing is literally a thing that can't happen. Any other answer deflates the match. If you had some person without confidence, the interview is kind of a flop anyway and asking that question wouldn't make it any worse.

The fans ought to be excited when they get a taste of the competitors' conviction. But someone has to lose. Being a smartass to the loser isn't cool. There are places for that kind of messing around but I hope the community can agree, out of respect for the competition (that is possible only because an astounding amount of effort from the competitors), that the TSL isn't one of them. Focus on the matches, be happy for the winner and respectful of the loser.

I know I sure as hell couldn't be saying all this if I was the loser so I thought I'd throw it out there while I'm still alive.



perfectly said.

On a side note for the OP. I'd like to suggest a program "Dragon Naturally Speaking 10" (torrent is easily found) for these kind of things. It saves a good amount of time in my opinion and can even be done live by the commentators if they so chose it.

If you are unfamiliar with the program. It is a voice recognition software. It types as quick as you speak and extremely accurate so long as you run through some of the training for your own voice. This program can work in all text applications that I know of so far. I use it for everything on my PC unless I'm SCing (needs mouse)

Anyways, playing back interviews and just talking/repeating what is being said as it plays. Saves an abundance of time and easy on the hands.

Just a suggestion. Enjoy!
When you learn something, use the heart.
Backlash
Profile Joined August 2008
Australia61 Posts
February 15 2010 22:31 GMT
#37
great that idra loses foreigner tournaments. hope he does well in korea tho.

also i caught the interview on the stream am i correct in saying there was a shoutout left out at the end? i think it was nony mentioning a fan?
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Leath
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Canada1724 Posts
February 15 2010 22:48 GMT
#38
I was cheering for NonY, since he is one of my favorite players.

But somehow I feel bad for iDrA. I think that iDrA had to win the TSL since he is a pro gamer.
Anyway, he showed us really nice games. His game play always looks so damn strong.

I am really enjoying watching iDrA play, now. He shows us great decision making, unit positioning, timing, micro, and macro. He is definitely playing like a pro.
NonY did awesome too. His micro attack in the Outsider and Fight Spirit games dropped my jaw. They were just beautiful. =)
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ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
February 16 2010 09:27 GMT
#39
But somehow I feel bad for iDrA. I think that iDrA had to win the TSL since he is a pro gamer.


In a perfect world everyone gets what they deserve, but hey, this is reality.

I am really enjoying watching iDrA play, now. He shows us great decision making, unit positioning, timing, micro, and macro. He is definitely playing like a pro.


Really? Actually i think these atributes should go to Nony for this bo5.

IdrA decision making: Nony proxied something in everygame. In game 5 idrA did not scout properly even though he knew Nony might try smth. Have you ever seen Flash pvt? He sends an SCV to scout in every god damn hole in the map for a proxy but idrA did not scout the freakin' middle.

unit positioning: One scarrab puts 3 tanks on red.

micro: It was good but not enough

macro: we did not get a chance to see it

NonY did awesome too. His micro attack in the Outsider and Fight Spirit games dropped my jaw. They were just beautiful. =)


Actually that game was an almost repeat of Nony vs Carson (even positons) where Carson was rolled over by pure goons were idrA had a reaver extra to handle.


I expected much much more from idrA.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8067 Posts
February 17 2010 18:11 GMT
#40
On February 16 2010 07:17 Liquid`NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2010 04:39 On_Slaught wrote:
Good interview.

I think i'm in the majority when I say I REALLY want to see a follow up interview with Idra. Specifically, make reference to his answer regarding "what if you do lose" and his "i dont think about things that can't happen" remark.

Oo the drama!


I think this is kinda faux drama. He believes in the power of confidence and so he's confident. I think "what if you do lose" is an inappropriate pre-match question. I understand it's only there in response to IdrA's extreme confidence but it's still inappropriate. In fact, it's because of his confidence that it's inappropriate. A pre-match interview should hype the match. IdrA's answer is the only one a competitor can give because in a competitor's mind, before the match, losing is literally a thing that can't happen. Any other answer deflates the match. If you had some person without confidence, the interview is kind of a flop anyway and asking that question wouldn't make it any worse.

The fans ought to be excited when they get a taste of the competitors' conviction. But someone has to lose. Being a smartass to the loser isn't cool. There are places for that kind of messing around but I hope the community can agree, out of respect for the competition (that is possible only because an astounding amount of effort from the competitors), that the TSL isn't one of them. Focus on the matches, be happy for the winner and respectful of the loser.

I know I sure as hell couldn't be saying all this if I was the loser so I thought I'd throw it out there while I'm still alive.

Confident people don't need to bash other players in public.

I can't really imagine Federer saying about how bad all his opponents are in Winbledon and how he will crush them 3-0 lololol because he's so good.

Idra has wrong state of mind, and this childish cockyness is part of it. And he keeps failing while he has the skill to beat every foreigner with the left hand and no keyboard.

If Idra respected his opponents, he would be respected himself. I haven't seen much bashing on Mondragon when he lost in last TSL being favorite. Idra is the only responsible for the shit he gets.
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