As all members of this community know, MorroW fought against kolll in the TSL Round of 3 this past weekend. If anyone has not seen the games yet, here they are:
Game 1:
In this interview, MorroW talks about his thoughts and decisions in each game, what he thinks about the TSL and foreign progaming at large. Enjoy:
PR.com: Hello and welcome yet again, MorroW. Since the last time we talked you have claimed even more TSL-fame and proven that you are a force to be reckoned with among the new generation of Starcraft players. Last weekend, you faced the German Zerg wünderkid kolll in the 3rd round of the TSL. The games were all very impressive and far from ordinary – what were your thoughts when the timer was counting down for that first match on Fighting Spirit?
MorroW:Hi PolygonreVue. I was very confident, warmed up and calm - sure to win a 3-0 or drop a game on outsider in a 3-1. Before this series i had played many games with ex-v1o)delphi and nrt.vincent and a few games with ips.mardow, also other ppl but these are the ones that popped up in my head first ^^
Getting a 1-3 have disappointed many people cheering for me but for most of all myself. I was really thrilled to show everyone who has been calling me a dodger through the entire ladder by actually getting far into the TSL.
Personally I don't think I proved anything in this tournament, just that I'm a mediocre Terran who got a really fake #2 in the ladder. I hope I can change this view soon in upcoming events.
PR.com: kolll, who defeated Idra in last year's World Cyber Games in China and only met a superior force in Bisu when they battled for third place, was praised by both Tasteless and Artosis during the live cast for his impeccable Mutalisk micro.
Yet, in the first game you beat him in that field with superior Marine&Medic and a well executed build order. Was that something that you had practiced for specifically, knowing kolll's style, or are you simply a really gosu M&M'er?
MorroW:Both me and kolll know each other very well, including our play styles. I was pretty sure he was going to 2Hatch Muta almost every single game but of course I prepared for 3Hatch too. The build i made was basically how Flash has been playing lately and I've practiced it very much.
I checked some people's comments saying how "kolll had bad Muta micro" but the truth is that the Muta micro of the Zerg user lies in the hands of the Terran: if you go to your base to macro for even 2 seconds you will have lost enough M&M to make your push impossible causing an uphill game, Zerg obviously having the same time pressure as Terran in this situation.
PR.com: In the second game on Outsider SE, Tasteless and Artosis rightly foretold that you very well might launch an unorthodox rush or early push, and indeed you did – hiding your second barracks and then doing a semi-late bunker rush at kolll's natural expansion.
Again – was that something you had rehearsed for this very purpose, and why did it not go exactly the way you planned?
MorroW:Well, I wanna start with when Light did this against Jaedong and made the build look very good. Outsider is a map concidered to be favored towards Zerg in ZvT, which pretty much motivated me to prepare a rush build.
I didn't choose a simple 8Rax because kolll always scouts really quickly. I went for a 10Rax or 11Rax. the build basically works in the fashion that Zerg sees that you're going to fast expad so he makes only 4 Lings or even as few as 2, after that you start you bunker and yout SCVs and Marines should strike before the Sunken.
My problem in that game was the lack of execution, I sent my units too late and I didn't micro them properly. I gotta hand it to kolll for responding perfectly. This build worked almost every single game in practice.
The real actual problem in this build was that I sent out my initial SCV scout about 3 seconds late - it's ridiculous how important each second is at this level of gaming.
PR.com: In the third and perhaps most explosive match on Destination, you performed a very technical Bio-Mech strategy, which the two commentators identified as a build popularised by Flash.
Such a build order can be very lethal if deployed in the right way at the right time, but it's also very fragile if scouted early. Did you choose that risky strategy to surprise kolll, rather than doing a more standard Destination-friendly Mech build?
MorroW:Actually before this event, I had planned to play Mech because it's so good on that map and I won with Mech against kolll in ESL too. But in the last second I decided to make the Flash Goliath-M&M build instead (I guess you can call that some sort of stupid panic attack decision).
The reason why this build looked so weak was because my turret was off timing with about 2 seconds and I had forgotten Goliath range. Once I saw that I was dying inside, to actually make a mistake like this was the most embarresing moment in the entire TSL.
Later it was just impossible to win because if you do a single little mistake with a progamer build made by Flash and playing against an opponent like kolll you're gonna look like a noob with dark swarms in your natural.
PR.com: The final game on Andromeda was epic, but the tone was set very early on due to the initial choice of build orders by both you and kolll. If the scores at that point had not been 2-1 to kolll, would you have opted for a more aggressive early opening strategy to push him back?
MorroW:Actually I didn't even think of the score when I chose my builds as many pEOPLE do. As Artosis said in the actual casting before the game "If MorroW has done his homework he should be going for 8Rax since that's the very best opener for this map". Artosis is very smart and so was kolll, and I had done my homework which resulted in a 8Rax by me, an Overpool by kolll and a happy face from Artosis.
Overpool is the very best build to make against the build I chose to do and you could see in my scouting that game that I was really convinced kolll would 12Hatch (only touching the natural). I ended up with 5 Marines before the CC in the natural expansion was started and from there I was actually really far behind.
Later that game he managed to get Lurkera outside my base and I made some screwups with my M&M micro, causing me to get contained (I had actually forgotten Marine range which was just as embarresing as the Destination incident).
When Defilers came he was about to make his final blow into my natural just like on Destination but I attacked right before the swarm and managed to get out of my main base. I almost made a convincing comeback for a second there but kolll was prepared for everything.
PR.com: Regardless of the outcome of your series against kolll, you have shown that you got what it takes when it comes to professional foreign Starcraft. What lies next ahead for you in terms of competive SC, considering that Starcraft 2 is probably still some time way?
MorroW:My original plan was to go to Korea and become a Starcraft 1 progamer but its too late now. If I had started playing 1on1 1 year earlier than I did I would probably be in Korea at this very moment. I'm most definitely going to become a SC2 progamer, I have no doubts that I will make it and I'm sure kolll is gonna try too.
PR.com: What would you say to other SC players who might have become inspired by your efforts and the entire TSL, is it possible to climb to the top of iCCup before too many summers have gone by?
MorroW:It took me 7 iccup seasons (1 year and 9 months) from a complete noob who didnt know anything about 1on1 to where I am now.
PR.com: That sounds pretty fast to me, how much do you practice every day and how?
MorroW:Well it depends on what mood I'm in but it's usually between 5-25 games per day. I practice with friends and laddering of course. I also watch a lot of professional VODs and pro replays but lately I've just watched material of Flash.
PR.com: Any final words before we wrap this up?
MorroW:I guess I don't really feel that I've gotten to show my full potential yet. If I could replay this bo5 with kolll and play standard I would probably have won and maybe even gotten really far into this tournament. However, kolll made it and I wish him best of luck both as a gamer and a friend. I'm happy I lost against him instead of some other guy who doesn't deserve it.
Also I wanna say great job by TSL who run this event, even if I'm not part of the tournament I still enjoy it very much, I actually watched the broadcast live. The infernal vs Terran series was insane :d
PR.com: Indeed it was. Thanks, MorroW for not only taking the time to do this interview but also for performing so well in professional Starcraft. Keep it up!
On January 19 2010 07:11 QuakerOats wrote: If I could replay this bo5 with kolll and play standard I would probably have won
LOL I hate when people say stuff like this. Why didn't you then?
I think you have a few things to learn about time.
...what? If you're referring to the tense of his statement, yeah he started with "if I could" but then switched to the past with "I would have won." If you're referring to the time he had to prepare for the games or something... actually I don't know what else you could be referring to.
On January 19 2010 07:11 QuakerOats wrote: If I could replay this bo5 with kolll and play standard I would probably have won
LOL I hate when people say stuff like this. Why didn't you then?
I think you have a few things to learn about time.
...what? If you're referring to the tense of his statement, yeah he started with "if I could" but then switched to the past with "I would have won." If you're referring to the time he had to prepare for the games or something... actually I don't know what else you could be referring to.
I feel morrow is kinda overconfident.. thinking he would definitely be in korea as a pro gamer if he started early or stating that he studies flashs style
Nice interview. This is actually just my opinion and it might be flawed, but: Im happy kolll won cause actually morrow is one of the few gamers who could have made it into the top 16 of which I personally think dont really belong there..
But thats just opinion and not meant to be offensive in any way
The build on Destination surprised me and I dont really get why u would go mech&bio but then again Im not that active.. so I dont really know
Oh, so you're saying that morrow didn't know he could beat kolll in a bo5 by playing standard... until he lost to him in a bo5? I dunno, morrow did win the first game playing standard but that doesn't really mean anything. To me saying "oh I lost because I tried weird/cheesy builds" is just a lame excuse.
The second game he tried to sunken-bust allin me but because I knew it was coming I could prepare myself accordingly, so I was quite confident I would win.
My problem in that game was the lack of execution, I sent my units too late and I didn't micro them properly. I gotta hand it to kolll for responding perfectly. This build worked almost every single game in practice.
The real actual problem in this build was that I sent out my initial SCV scout about 3 seconds late - it's ridiculous how important each second is at this level of gaming.
The 3rd game I was very worried when that huge army goliath/m&m army came out of his main, but I was able to stall the push quite a lot until I had high tech units.
The reason why this build looked so weak was because my turret was off timing with about 2 seconds and I had forgotten Goliath range. Once I saw that I was dying inside, to actually make a mistake like this was the most embarresing moment in the entire TSL.
Later it was just impossible to win because if you do a single little mistake with a progamer build made by Flash and playing against an opponent like kolll you're gonna look like a noob with dark swarms in your natural.
The 4th game was a normal 3hatch into 4gas lategame game and since I practice that a lot I was confident I would win the game
Later that game he managed to get Lurkera outside my base and I made some screwups with my M&M micro, causing me to get contained (I had actually forgotten Marine range which was just as embarresing as the Destination incident).
When Defilers came he was about to make his final blow into my natural just like on Destination but I attacked right before the swarm and managed to get out of my main base. I almost made a convincing comeback for a second there but kolll was prepared for everything.
On January 19 2010 07:11 QuakerOats wrote: If I could replay this bo5 with kolll and play standard I would probably have won
LOL I hate when people say stuff like this. Why didn't you then?
I think you have a few things to learn about time.
That took me a second. But then I LOLed.
@ TSL management & players:
I love the interviews. You guys are making this tournament a wonderful experience for the spectators. It's like a goddamned content smorgasbord around here. Keep up the good work!
The second game he tried to sunken-bust allin me but because I knew it was coming I could prepare myself accordingly, so I was quite confident I would win.
My problem in that game was the lack of execution, I sent my units too late and I didn't micro them properly. I gotta hand it to kolll for responding perfectly. This build worked almost every single game in practice.
The real actual problem in this build was that I sent out my initial SCV scout about 3 seconds late - it's ridiculous how important each second is at this level of gaming.
The 3rd game I was very worried when that huge army goliath/m&m army came out of his main, but I was able to stall the push quite a lot until I had high tech units.
The reason why this build looked so weak was because my turret was off timing with about 2 seconds and I had forgotten Goliath range. Once I saw that I was dying inside, to actually make a mistake like this was the most embarresing moment in the entire TSL.
Later it was just impossible to win because if you do a single little mistake with a progamer build made by Flash and playing against an opponent like kolll you're gonna look like a noob with dark swarms in your natural.
The 4th game was a normal 3hatch into 4gas lategame game and since I practice that a lot I was confident I would win the game
Later that game he managed to get Lurkera outside my base and I made some screwups with my M&M micro, causing me to get contained (I had actually forgotten Marine range which was just as embarresing as the Destination incident).
When Defilers came he was about to make his final blow into my natural just like on Destination but I attacked right before the swarm and managed to get out of my main base. I almost made a convincing comeback for a second there but kolll was prepared for everything.
Well every game you or anybody plays isn't the same, even with exact same BO's, map or w/e, that's why this game is so great, it all depends on your actions.
MorroW:I guess I don't really feel that I've gotten to show my full potential yet. If I could replay this bo5 with kolll and play standard I would probably have won and maybe even gotten really far into this tournament. However, kolll made it and I wish him best of luck both as a gamer and a friend. I'm happy I lost against him instead of some other guy who doesn't deserve it.
Also I wanna say great job by TSL who run this event, even if I'm not part of the tournament I still enjoy it very much, I actually watched the broadcast live. The infernal vs Terran series was insane :d
all I see here is two great players battle it out and shows respect for each other after one has prevailed
I mean, you know, the interview happened after his games. But his knowledge after the games can't help him win the games because of the way time works. It's kinda like someone playing the lottery and seeing the winning numbers and saying "I think if I played those numbers, I would have won." It seems like a clever solution at first, to just wait until after you play to figure out how to win, but time fucks it over.
Good interview tx both. Curious to see what the future will bring for Morrow. One thing though, what is a "wünderkid"? If you want to use words from a foreign language use the right ones, it's Wunderkind afaik.
The thing is it's impossible for him to gain the knowledge that he could have beatenen kolll if he played straight up by beating him once. So to me what morrow is saying is "I am a better player than kolll, I just lost because I played cheesy/weird builds." And so my question is... why did he specifically prepare those builds? And even if he didn't "realize" until after game one that he could definitely beat kolll straight up why did he continue to go through with his other builds?
I dunno I just don't like this "the other guy won because I messed up" thing (see also: Cloud vs G5)
On January 19 2010 08:40 QuakerOats wrote: The thing is it's impossible for him to gain the knowledge that he could have beatenen kolll if he played straight up by beating him once. So to me what morrow is saying is "I am a better player than kolll, I just lost because I played cheesy/weird builds." And so my question is... why did he specifically prepare those builds? And even if he didn't "realize" until after game one that he could definitely beat kolll straight up why did he continue to go through with his other builds?
I dunno I just don't like this "the other guy won because I messed up" thing (see also: Cloud vs G5)
Yeah it's true. This is why loser interviews are generally a bad idea and are rarely done.
Am I the only one who didn't read any bm/sour grapes into Morrow's comments at all? He's disappointed that he lost, he knows he got outplayed, but of course he believes that the series could have easily gone the other way. Consider that Morrow beat Kolll in two other tournaments before TSL. I didn't see anything wrong with Morrow regretting his build choices and execution. It's only natural. His comments were very acceptable and he had an appropriate amount of humility.
I would be very happy to do one of my audio interviews with you, NonY, should you be interested. I've done quite a few already, check out the sidebar and see it the format suits you
wünderkid is colloquial German for "wonderboy", sorry about the confusion.
I would be very happy to do one of my audio interviews with you, NonY, should you be interested. I've done quite a few already, check out the sidebar and see it the format suits you
wünderkid is colloquial German for "wonderboy", sorry about the confusion.
It so isnt . The word Wünder does not exist, not even in colloqial German. Maaaaaaybe it could be used in a very bad and nineties "joke" ridiculing turkish immigrants trying to say Wunder, but i doubt that was your intention.
I would be very happy to do one of my audio interviews with you, NonY, should you be interested. I've done quite a few already, check out the sidebar and see it the format suits you
wünderkid is colloquial German for "wonderboy", sorry about the confusion.
It so isnt . The word Wünder does not exist, not even in colloqial German. Maaaaaaybe it could be used in a very bad and nineties "joke" ridiculing turkish immigrants trying to say Wunder, but i doubt that was your intention.
You are right, that was not my intention My knowledge of German is missing at best, or maybe the right word to describe it with would be "über-colloquial"? ;D
I thought wünderkid was pretty funny, especially since wunderkind (the only correct term) is also used just like that in English, right?
Nice interview! I also wondered why MorroW didn't play standard, he has shown he can do it. Anyway it's always nice to see interviews with the losing players also, good job!
On January 19 2010 09:55 tree.hugger wrote: Am I the only one who didn't read any bm/sour grapes into Morrow's comments at all? He's disappointed that he lost, he knows he got outplayed, but of course he believes that the series could have easily gone the other way. Consider that Morrow beat Kolll in two other tournaments before TSL. I didn't see anything wrong with Morrow regretting his build choices and execution. It's only natural. His comments were very acceptable and he had an appropriate amount of humility.
No. I agree with you.
It was a really nice interview. I think Morrow is a nice guy. He showed a lot of respect for kolll, calling him a friend and giving him credit for his win.
When you ask a loser about his losses you can't expect him to say only about how his opponent outplayed him. He is there to analyse the mistakes and the bad choices he did. That's what Morrow did, without being any cocky at all.
On January 19 2010 08:40 QuakerOats wrote: The thing is it's impossible for him to gain the knowledge that he could have beatenen kolll if he played straight up by beating him once. So to me what morrow is saying is "I am a better player than kolll, I just lost because I played cheesy/weird builds." And so my question is... why did he specifically prepare those builds? And even if he didn't "realize" until after game one that he could definitely beat kolll straight up why did he continue to go through with his other builds?
I dunno I just don't like this "the other guy won because I messed up" thing (see also: Cloud vs G5)
this happens so often in starcraft. I find it really BM as well. just suck it up and admit you lost instead of making excuses..
I'm actually quite surprised, used to be in the same team as him and I personally dislike him on b.net. As I remember, very cocky, immature and bm. But this interview he seemed to have very much humility, maturity and good manner. Kudos man, Best of luck in the future
On January 19 2010 23:52 Crucifix wrote: MorroW is average turtle terran player, don't know why people are so excited about his playstyle T_T It's just mass playing 25 games / daily, cmon.
On January 19 2010 23:52 Crucifix wrote: MorroW is average turtle terran player, don't know why people are so excited about his playstyle T_T It's just mass playing 25 games / daily, cmon.
I don't know where you come up with comments like this. It's insulting and completely inaccurate. Please stop making dumbass remarks.
Morrow seems to be a great, sympathetic and fair guy and he is also a very good player and considered his age certainly has a lot of potential. Even if you don't like him or his style (for whatever unjustifiable reason) he at least deserves some respect for his achievements in the TSL so far.
On January 19 2010 19:11 lazz wrote: this happens so often in starcraft. I find it really BM as well. just suck it up and admit you lost instead of making excuses..
He admitted he lost, and said that Koll deserved the win. Whenever you lose a game, you made a mistake. He's just saying what he thought his mistakes were.
On January 19 2010 09:55 tree.hugger wrote: Am I the only one who didn't read any bm/sour grapes into Morrow's comments at all? He's disappointed that he lost, he knows he got outplayed, but of course he believes that the series could have easily gone the other way. Consider that Morrow beat Kolll in two other tournaments before TSL. I didn't see anything wrong with Morrow regretting his build choices and execution. It's only natural. His comments were very acceptable and he had an appropriate amount of humility.
No. I agree with you.
It was a really nice interview. I think Morrow is a nice guy. He showed a lot of respect for kolll, calling him a friend and giving him credit for his win.
When you ask a loser about his losses you can't expect him to say only about how his opponent outplayed him. He is there to analyse the mistakes and the bad choices he did. That's what Morrow did, without being any cocky at all.
I liked his interview as well even though I thought the last comment about him winning with straight-up play was of course not objective. But heh. he lost, he needs a positive mindset and believe in himself... so, everything is fine. Plus: it is no shame to lose against Kolll in a BO5 at all. And he didn't do too bad and I think he was probably a littlebit over-motivated and wanted to proof his critics he is no fake. So, MorroW, keep going and trying. It'll work out.
Winning a standard game vs kolll is a thing only few terrans out of korea are capable of.. Idra,ret and a few others come to mind.. maybe morrow belongs to them who knows..
Didnt see any bad manners in this interview.. Sometimes people just remember habits of a person and whenever somethings up with the person they think of those habits even though the person often changed / doesnt show those habits anymore..
ret a terran? he plays zvz now... i dont think his tvz is that good, but then it's only my humble opinion. morrow is a great player, no doubt there. but i think he's too cocky without achievements to back it up like for example idra does...
but sure if he's actually got all that talent and potential, i'll be happy to see him battle it out in the upcoming tourneys.
EDIT: also if he's so good why did he have to dodge so much during ladder stage...
he also interviewed Day[9], which was a pretty good interview, highly recommended.
akso...
On January 19 2010 23:52 Crucifix wrote: MorroW is average turtle terran player, don't know why people are so excited about his playstyle T_T It's just mass playing 25 games / daily, cmon.
Are you serious. You should lose you priveleges for ignorance, because you obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Watch morrow's repack, and if you still think he turtles, then you obviously don't know s*** about starcraft, or you're just lacking mentally. Either way this is a stupid comment.
Anyway, I really hope all of the top foreigners like morrow and kolll try to make it professionally in korea if they get the chance in SC2.
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. The word Wünder does not exist, not even in colloqial German. 
