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Braavos36402 Posts
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+ Show Spoiler +awww, I was looking forward to Koll vs Naugrim 
spoilered just incase, I'm not sure if this thread is for discussing the results
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Zurich15366 Posts
No need to use spoiler tags here. If someone wants to watch the games unspoiled they should just download the reps from the OP not read the thread.
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FUCK YES KOLLL
oh man, after game 1 i was like "uh shit, now octzerg will do some ling allin shit gg "
but he scouted it, won and OWND him in game 3 xD
FUCK SO AWESOME
why didnt naugrim play though? what was that all about, why do they postpone the games when they aren't played in the end?
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Would be nice for an explanation for the walkover, other than "tardiness" 
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Trinidad/Tobago1177 Posts
was naugrim scared? I wanted to see him vs kolll =[
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USA29055 Posts
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wow.
major fail.
Germany moves on once again.
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Lol, to rop out of something like this because you didn't show up... Id rather have had incontrol get a second chance ^^ but i was rooting for koll the whole time so im not complaining.
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Would be nice to know what actually happend! Who delayed the first match? And what happend later? Today?
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Valhalla18444 Posts
octzerg nooooo! how will you knock out idra with zerglings now
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Stop saying major fail, scared or whatever if you don't know the reason.
Naugrim has grown abit tired of BW.
He halfheartedly tried to qualify for TSL a month + ago but stopped at low A- and then gave it up due to lack of time playing and lack of will.
Then somehow, without playing any more games, he qualified with like 9100 points because so many people were disqualified.
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Norway28877 Posts
naugrim first didn't show up for 20-30 minutes (leading to kolll being given a 1-0 lead)
then when naugrim finally showed up, he went afk for another 30 minutes to eat or whatever. octzerg vs kolll games started around 18:50, each 20 minute someone is too late they lose one game.
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On January 12 2010 04:47 StylishVODs wrote:
Stop saying major fail or whatever if you don't know the reason.
Naugrim has grown abit tired of BW.
He halfheartedly tried to qualify for TSL a month + ago but stopped at low A- and then gave it up due to lack of time playing and lack of will.
Then somehow, without playing any more games, he qualified with like 9100 points because so many people were disqualified.
Yeah he should have informed the admins. Nothing more to say imo, but thanks for the clarification though, makes sense even though it's not a viable excuse.
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On January 12 2010 04:48 Liquid`Drone wrote:
naugrim first didn't show up for 20-30 minutes (leading to kolll being given a 1-0 lead)
then when naugrim finally showed up, he went afk for another 30 minutes to eat or whatever. octzerg vs kolll games started around 18:50, each 20 minute someone is too late they lose one game.
lol what the hell is that? Sounds very disrespectful by Naugrim imo. TSL2 is a big ass tournament and he should be more mature about it imo.
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No matter the reason, I have no respect for Naugrim.
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yeah, pretty sad. coming too late and then going afk, what is that. could have given his spot to lzgamer or so. ah well, whatever
gz kolll <3
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You don't know his situation so don't judge him.
He probably had to go, his parents doesn't always consider him playing bw the most important thing and sometimes he just can't play.
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On January 12 2010 05:13 StylishVODs wrote:
You don't know his situation so don't judge him.
He probably had to go, his parents doesn't always consider him playing bw the most important thing and sometimes he just can't play.
...so he should probably inform the admins of this as well.
And you just told us his situation?
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I agree with stylish, it's kindof harsh judgement going on without hearing what happened on his end first.
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after octzerg took game 1 from kolll, I thought it's over, but koll won after all ^^
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Too bad Octo, better luck next time I guess.
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On January 12 2010 05:20 Foucault wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2010 05:13 StylishVODs wrote:
You don't know his situation so don't judge him.
He probably had to go, his parents doesn't always consider him playing bw the most important thing and sometimes he just can't play. ...so he should probably inform the admins of this as well. And you just told us his situation?
yeah but not during the time he was actually in the chat. I don't think he intended to go to the chat just to diss the admins or the tourny.
We'll have to wait for his answer before saying things.
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On January 12 2010 05:13 StylishVODs wrote:
You don't know his situation so don't judge him.
He probably had to go, his parents doesn't always consider him playing bw the most important thing and sometimes he just can't play.
Ehm his parents?????
I thought Naugrim is like 20 year old and not a 10 year old kid :S
If you dont give a fuck about this tournament and at the same time disrespecting your oponent then why bother waisting 15 days on the ladder and not giving another player a chance of competing.... which was as i remember mamon who had like 900 games played in the ladder .
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LzGaMeR should had been playing kolll in the first match. Gj kolll anyway.
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Calgary26003 Posts
On January 12 2010 05:13 StylishVODs wrote:
You don't know his situation so don't judge him.
He probably had to go, his parents doesn't always consider him playing bw the most important thing and sometimes he just can't play.
TSL admins have been very flexible with modifying the schedule if given enough notice.
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skela he lives at home i think hes 18 or 19 whatever.
it could have been problems of some sort so lets not judge him ok.
and as far as wasting time, he was trying to qualify but stopped at 9100 2-3 weeks before the ladder finnished and it was obviously not going to be enough at that point. its not his fault 10 ppl got disqualified. He should have contacted the admins if he knew he couldn't participate but i don't have all the facts yet.
im trying to reach him as we speak.
i wont discuss/defend this further until i've spoken with him, im just asking people not to judge him too hard before he's had an opportunity to reply.
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W.O But happends...
Anyway Koll vs Morrow gonna be cool :D
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On January 12 2010 05:53 StylishVODs wrote:
skela he lives at home i think hes 18 or 19 whatever.
it could have been problems of some sort so lets not judge him ok.
and as far as wasting time, he was trying to qualify but stopped at 9100 2-3 weeks before the ladder finnished and it was obviously not going to be enough at that point. its not his fault 10 ppl got disqualified. He should have contacted the admins if he knew he couldn't participate but i don't have all the facts yet.
im trying to reach him as we speak.
i wont discuss/defend this further until i've spoken with him, im just asking people not to judge him too hard before he's had an opportunity to reply.
I think the problem here is, Did You say that he is tired and gave up only to qualify or did he specifically say so himself? And if he did say that then itss been on his mind for awhile which makes this make him look bad as he didn't even want to qualify anymore and yet got in, maybe he had a change of mind where he was willing to play again but he was given a full week and some more to play his games and then on top of that got another week for R1. So that's a lot of time to think it over and just tell someone his situation right??
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ohthatdang, yeah i wrote that because he has told me. I didn't think he would show up at all, I haven't seen him for ages and I didn't even know if he knew he had qualified coz he was under 9500 which was the needed score at the end of the ladder. but since people have said he did in fact show up and that he played a cw not too long ago i must speak with him first. its not his style to disrespect and such, so I simply have to know more. and so do all of you.
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Braavos36402 Posts
Everyone relax, it was a W.O, it happens. Let's not crucify the guy.
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Ok apparently he told kolll he needed 15 minutes to eat. When he came back, kolll and oct was already 10 seconds into the first game.
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On January 12 2010 06:34 StylishVODs wrote:
Ok apparently he told kolll he needed 15 minutes to eat. When he came back, kolll and oct was already 10 seconds into the first game.
Thats cause he came back after 30 minutes? (according to sources)
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naugrim is my source. anyway the issue here seemed to be about he needing to go somewhere when the match should have started and when he returned it was too late.
so lets drop all the disrespect the tourny or steal other peoples spot or scared speculations.
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naugrim would lose 0:2
why so much hype about kolll vs him?
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there was some other problem. becuase match from round 1 should be played early or saturday (dont know exactly) anyway we all 3 accept monday so not see problem here.
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Too bad for naugrim, but i think he had a reason for not coming i dont think anyone here would miss that chance to advance in this kind of tour.
too bad he couldn't play,, i wanted him to advance higher tho.
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Oh well, anyway on to the actual game between oct and kolll. I thought they were lame, imo. It was like watching the same game 3 times in a row. I dunno, I dont play ZvZ so dont take my opinion. But I absolutely cannot wait till Morrow vs kolll.
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On January 12 2010 06:48 ilbh wrote:
naugrim would lose 0:2
why so much hype about kolll vs him?
wow thats such a retarded thing to say
i dont know who's better at zvz but its hard to tell for sure who would've won
hype is probably because they're 2 good zergs? so other zergs might want to see them play?
anyway i think Morrow will win 3-1 or 3-2 vs Kolll now
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On January 12 2010 06:34 StylishVODs wrote:
Ok apparently he told kolll he needed 15 minutes to eat. When he came back, kolll and oct was already 10 seconds into the first game.
sorry but if eating your meal at an exact time is more important than your tsl game
n/c
but then again we all dont know what was the matter except for naugrim himself..
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On January 12 2010 07:19 Pulimuli wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2010 06:48 ilbh wrote:
naugrim would lose 0:2
why so much hype about kolll vs him? wow thats such a retarded thing to say i dont know who's better at zvz but its hard to tell for sure who would've won hype is probably because they're 2 good zergs? so other zergs might want to see them play? anyway i think Morrow will win 3-1 or 3-2 vs Kolll now
After the series i saw from Kolll vs Idra I think kolll will take it..
but he has to change his play style a little bit to be more unpredictable and train a bit vs tech
R3 will be bo5 iigth ?
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On January 12 2010 07:21 MaGic~PhiL wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2010 06:34 StylishVODs wrote:
Ok apparently he told kolll he needed 15 minutes to eat. When he came back, kolll and oct was already 10 seconds into the first game. sorry but if eating your meal at an exact time is more important than your tsl game n/c but then again we all dont know what was the matter except for naugrim himself..
well, you gotta eat or you die right?
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Makes sense reminds me of last tsl with that chosen walk over near the end aha :p. Nothing similar but w.o. In case anyones gonna argue just stating it. Well gl to naugrim in future if he continues
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On January 12 2010 07:24 StylishVODs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2010 07:21 MaGic~PhiL wrote:On January 12 2010 06:34 StylishVODs wrote:
Ok apparently he told kolll he needed 15 minutes to eat. When he came back, kolll and oct was already 10 seconds into the first game. sorry but if eating your meal at an exact time is more important than your tsl game n/c but then again we all dont know what was the matter except for naugrim himself.. well, you gotta eat or you die right?
stop trolling
delaying one meal -> no harm at all
delaying two meals -> no harm at all
ECT..
not eating for a few weeks -> death
dear lord..
hopefully it was sarcasm on your side.. T_T
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koll vs morrow?
interesting
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On January 12 2010 04:36 GreEny K wrote:
Lol, to rop out of something like this because you didn't show up... Id rather have had incontrol get a second chance ^^ but i was rooting for koll the whole time so im not complaining.
I'd rather have lz get a 1st chance
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On January 12 2010 07:31 MaGic~PhiL wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2010 07:24 StylishVODs wrote:On January 12 2010 07:21 MaGic~PhiL wrote:On January 12 2010 06:34 StylishVODs wrote:
Ok apparently he told kolll he needed 15 minutes to eat. When he came back, kolll and oct was already 10 seconds into the first game. sorry but if eating your meal at an exact time is more important than your tsl game n/c but then again we all dont know what was the matter except for naugrim himself.. well, you gotta eat or you die right? stop trolling delaying one meal -> no harm at all delaying two meals -> no harm at all ECT.. not eating for a few weeks -> death dear lord.. hopefully it was sarcasm on your side.. T_T
lol you told someone not to troll
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On January 12 2010 07:24 StylishVODs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2010 07:21 MaGic~PhiL wrote:On January 12 2010 06:34 StylishVODs wrote:
Ok apparently he told kolll he needed 15 minutes to eat. When he came back, kolll and oct was already 10 seconds into the first game. sorry but if eating your meal at an exact time is more important than your tsl game n/c but then again we all dont know what was the matter except for naugrim himself.. well, you gotta eat or you die right?
hahahaha...
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On January 12 2010 07:31 MaGic~PhiL wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2010 07:24 StylishVODs wrote:On January 12 2010 07:21 MaGic~PhiL wrote:On January 12 2010 06:34 StylishVODs wrote:
Ok apparently he told kolll he needed 15 minutes to eat. When he came back, kolll and oct was already 10 seconds into the first game. sorry but if eating your meal at an exact time is more important than your tsl game n/c but then again we all dont know what was the matter except for naugrim himself.. well, you gotta eat or you die right? stop trolling delaying one meal -> no harm at all delaying two meals -> no harm at all ECT.. not eating for a few weeks -> death dear lord.. hopefully it was sarcasm on your side.. T_T
Sighh get off his back he has only said what he knows
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Shame to the w/o :<
morrow vs kolll will be koolll
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After the first game I thought Oct would take it, he showed some really strong zvz sense there despite the build orders. But kolll scouting that popular ling hiding place really turned that game around. Then kolll got the better build in game 3.
Now kolll can attempt revenge against morrow, should be a good match.
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haha magic phil, thnx for clearing that out
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Braavos36402 Posts
On January 12 2010 06:34 StylishVODs wrote:
Ok apparently he told kolll he needed 15 minutes to eat. When he came back, kolll and oct was already 10 seconds into the first game.
All times CET (I recorded to the minute):
Official match time 18:00, confirmed by 3 emails and through MSN
17:30 - Kolll and OctZerg arrive in channel
18:00 - No sign of Naugrim, we call his phone number provided by him. No contact from him either.
18:20 - Kolll up 1-0 per TSL rules.
18:21 - Naugrim arrives in channel, tells us he needs to eat.
18:21 - I try to respond, but he did not give me a chance to say yes or no, he's already AFK.
18:40 - Kolll should get 2-0 W.O at this point, per TSL rules. But we still wait (gave extra 7 min).
18:48 - Naugrim stil AFK. We decide to award W.O to Kolll.
18:48 - Kolll and OctZerg begin their R2 match.
18:49 - Naugrim returns, says he shouldn't be DQ'd because he told Kolll he would eat for 15 min.*
* Why 2-0 W.O?
1. He never officially told me, the admin. Telling Kolll is not telling the TSL Staff.
2. Even if he did tell me, he didn't give me a chance to say yes or no, he just went AFK.
3. Even if I accepted, he came back after 27 minutes, not 15.
4. We had no idea when he'd be back or if he'd even be back.
5. At 18:48 when W.O was decided, we were 50 minutes past scheduled time.
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oh man, is that a joke? wtf. i mean, this is not exactly a bwcl division 3 match is it? wow either he really doesn't give a fuck or he was just "out of it" (OO is that even english? "verpeilt" in german)
i mean come now, its zvz, even if he didnt play for days/weeks he can still give it a try, wtf is that. oh i am not able to eat at another time of the day. oh i dont have 30 minutes to play 2 or 3 zvz
ah well, whatever. sad and funny at the same time xD
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well imo it deserves a punishment as strong as the "AbusersGate". An admin decision must be taken by respect for all the people who failed during the ladder of qualification and of course who would have loved to play instead... It's a lack of respect to all the BW community : fan, participants, journalist, and in particular to the TSL staff who deserved a little more consideration. Personnally i wouldn't understand you have banned players for 300 useless points in ladder and not a guy who laughed at you in eating during 50 minutes.
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congrats to the winner. I still think morrow will take group though
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Man I was so scared for Kolll watching those reps.
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Hot_Bid i'm not saying your decision was wrong.
It was obviously right, im just saying what he told me.
For whatever reason people feel like they need to bash on naugrim i'd just like to clarify that he showed up and was going to play, but then he couldn't due to circumstances.
He lives at home and respects his parents will, theres nothing more to it.
He would have played if he could.
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On January 12 2010 09:54 StylishVODs wrote:
Hot_Bid i'm not saying your decision was wrong.
It was obviously right, im just saying what he told me.
For whatever reason people feel like they need to bash on naugrim i'd just like to clarify that he showed up and was going to play, but then he couldn't due to circumstances.
He lives at home and respects his parents will, theres nothing more to it.
He would have played if he could.
If I still lived with my parents and said that I'm potentially playing a starcraft game for a chance at a couple thousand dollars they'd let me skip dinner for an hour no problems. I'd expect most sane parents to do the same....
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On January 12 2010 05:09 Djin)ftw( wrote:
yeah, pretty sad. coming too late and then going afk, what is that. could have given his spot to lzgamer or so. ah well, whatever
gz kolll <3
ye srsly.. this
such fail
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How come this group was worth 0 liquibet points? I got it right too
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United States13896 Posts
Because 121 people voted for Naugrim. Obviously it wouldn't be fair to these people who voted for him under the assumption that he would be playing.
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What about people who voted for kolll under the assumption naugrim wouldn't play huh!?
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On January 12 2010 10:20 Nytefish wrote:
What about people who voted for kolll under the assumption naugrim wouldn't play huh!?
yea, like his parents!
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
On January 12 2010 10:33 ondik wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2010 10:20 Nytefish wrote:
What about people who voted for kolll under the assumption naugrim wouldn't play huh!? yea, like his parents!
hahaha
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On January 12 2010 05:08 Summer[AfO]! wrote:
No matter the reason, I have no respect for Naugrim.
That's not fair, he's a great player and deserves your respect. Why would you not respect somebody because they couldn't make their own game? you don't know what his reasons were so it's unfair to judge.
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So from what I read, Naugrim gets sick of Broodwar and stops playing in the TSL 3 weeks before deadline. He makes it in due to DQ's. I think any respecting Starcraft player would maybe transfer then clear stats to let other players, who care aboust Starcraft, get a chance to qualify. Seems like he didn't care about qualifying but got in luckily then decided to play. Then, eating was more important.
Damn, I think LZ would play over post-postponing meal 30 minutes. But that's just me.
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On January 12 2010 10:33 ondik wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2010 10:20 Nytefish wrote:
What about people who voted for kolll under the assumption naugrim wouldn't play huh!? yea, like his parents!
Its a conspiracy by naugrim's parents for liquibet point!
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i knew there would be a W.O - especially Naugrim that guy is fucking lazy and annoying as hell.
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On January 12 2010 09:07 Hot_Bid wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2010 06:34 StylishVODs wrote:
Ok apparently he told kolll he needed 15 minutes to eat. When he came back, kolll and oct was already 10 seconds into the first game. All times CET (I recorded to the minute): Official match time 18:00, confirmed by 3 emails and through MSN17:30 - Kolll and OctZerg arrive in channel 18:00 - No sign of Naugrim, we call his phone number provided by him. No contact from him either. 18:20 - Kolll up 1-0 per TSL rules. 18:21 - Naugrim arrives in channel, tells us he needs to eat. 18:21 - I try to respond, but he did not give me a chance to say yes or no, he's already AFK. 18:40 - Kolll should get 2-0 W.O at this point, per TSL rules. But we still wait (gave extra 7 min). 18:48 - Naugrim stil AFK. We decide to award W.O to Kolll. 18:48 - Kolll and OctZerg begin their R2 match. 18:49 - Naugrim returns, says he shouldn't be DQ'd because he told Kolll he would eat for 15 min.* * Why 2-0 W.O? 1. He never officially told me, the admin. Telling Kolll is not telling the TSL Staff. 2. Even if he did tell me, he didn't give me a chance to say yes or no, he just went AFK. 3. Even if I accepted, he came back after 27 minutes, not 15. 4. We had no idea when he'd be back or if he'd even be back. 5. At 18:48 when W.O was decided, we were 50 minutes past scheduled time.
Good decision. I'm sorry Naugrim could not be agreeable. I was looking forward to that match.
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This is why in Korea they take the teenyboppers away from the parents and lock them all up in a house.
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I'm looking forward to seeing Kolll play a ZvT again. I don't know if he is overhyped or not, but beating IdrA 2-0 is definitely something, even if IdrA claimed that he wasn't playing his best.
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to bad he has caring parents who wants a family dinner with him... Yeah screw him and on with the next game, its only naugrim.
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TSL is a $20,000 tournament, if he can't commit time to play he shouldn't play it.
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GJ kolll.
GL against morrow!
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LZ was #49 right? If Naugrim wasn't too serious, he should have given LZ the chance !!
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Awesome Koll! Beat Morrow and advance! Hope you get to finals
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Sucks about Naugrim... W/O losses are always dissapointing. GJ to Kolll, good luck against MorroW!
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Since almost everybody is available on msn or by email it is really not hard to drop a line or two to either tell that you wont come at all or that you are facing major troubles and are maybe late for xx amount of minutes. :-/
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I can't say I was looking forward to watching ZvZs, but it sucks that there wasn't Naugrim vs Kolll
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Pretty damn unproffesionel by Naugrim. What does he think this was, some random practise game?
And yes, I mean this even with all the facts laid out. Must be lame for the person that would have qualified if he had said he couldn't play in the first place.
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UI OCTZERG THAT WAS CLOSE xD
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6 germans round 3 JAEH JAEH JAEH ^^ go 4 in tsl plz ^^
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Not that surprising to me actually. Judging from my 1 and only experiance with naugrim heh.
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On January 12 2010 09:54 StylishVODs wrote:
For whatever reason people feel like they need to bash on naugrim i'd just like to clarify that he showed up and was going to play, but then he couldn't due to circumstances.
He lives at home and respects his parents will, theres nothing more to it.
He would have played if he could.
I hope you understand thats not a valid reason. It's not like this match came out of the blue buts been planned for some time. Especially since it's already been postponed I suppose he could have informed TL of a time where he actually could play and informed his parents before. As someone mentioned before, I think they would have let him skip dinner if he told them before hand that he had a big game comming up with people cheering for him and the chance to win big money.
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Germany2762 Posts
this is so sad... if he wasn't serious about the tournament (what it really seemed after stopping to play 2-3 weeks before ladder was over), he could have given the chance to play to the next in the ladder, Lz. he would have taken it seriously and would have put up a good fight.
i was sad when i saw that he was 49. in the ladder, so close to qualifying. but now i'm almost a bit angry, because that was just disrespectful by naugrim. and lz was one of the guys i was seriously rooting for
lz ftw!
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Yo Naugrim, I hear kolll lives with his parents too.
You need to find some better ones - like his.
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Let's stop this BS against Naugrim and HYPE for Koll who closely beats Octzerg!!!
Koll will crush morrow! at least i want him to
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On January 12 2010 21:00 torm3ntin wrote:Let's stop this BS against Naugrim and HYPE for Koll who closely beats Octzerg!!! Koll will crush morrow! at least i want him to
last 2 times morrow vs kolll, morrow won both times. So this will be interesting dont ya think?
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gratz kolll
you are worth the 3rd l
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On January 12 2010 21:17 NiGoL wrote:
last 2 times morrow vs kolll, morrow won both times. So this will be interesting dont ya think?
OFC it will As all the other matches.
I can understand why u root for MorroW since you are his country fellow but i'm rooting for Koll. can't wait to see EVERY lil match from R3 though
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yeah Naugrim attitude is ridiculous
a lot of people starving for a spot, some to the point of cheating...
and he doesn't care at all
after postponing he still goes AFK for 50 minutes, not even letting admins to know if or when he would come back
fail
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its like last season with testie, naugrim deserves no respect
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I think that if naugrim actually didn't care about qualifying and didn't even want to play in the tournment he would have actually reset his stats instead of the bs excuse that he made.
In a tournment with this much money at stake it can be very frustrating to those of us who are expecting to see some good games and especially for those who barely missed qualifying because of this (Lz).
I'm not saying that naugrim should be punished or be yelled at for what he did. However, he should maybe realize that since he actually didn't care about the schedule or the ladder then why should we care if he has some half hearted excuse for his absences.
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So sad to see so many players battling hard to get a spot in top48 and now after the ladder phase some1 forfeits a match ;x
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maybe I'm playing devil's advocate, but even if Naugrim didn't show up for his matches he still EARNED his spot. If Lzgamer wanted a spot he would of scored more points to qualify... tough love
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Dominican Republic825 Posts
+ Show Spoiler +On January 12 2010 09:07 Hot_Bid wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2010 06:34 StylishVODs wrote:
Ok apparently he told kolll he needed 15 minutes to eat. When he came back, kolll and oct was already 10 seconds into the first game. All times CET (I recorded to the minute): Official match time 18:00, confirmed by 3 emails and through MSN17:30 - Kolll and OctZerg arrive in channel 18:00 - No sign of Naugrim, we call his phone number provided by him. No contact from him either. 18:20 - Kolll up 1-0 per TSL rules. 18:21 - Naugrim arrives in channel, tells us he needs to eat. 18:21 - I try to respond, but he did not give me a chance to say yes or no, he's already AFK. 18:40 - Kolll should get 2-0 W.O at this point, per TSL rules. But we still wait (gave extra 7 min). 18:48 - Naugrim stil AFK. We decide to award W.O to Kolll. 18:48 - Kolll and OctZerg begin their R2 match. 18:49 - Naugrim returns, says he shouldn't be DQ'd because he told Kolll he would eat for 15 min.* * Why 2-0 W.O? 1. He never officially told me, the admin. Telling Kolll is not telling the TSL Staff. 2. Even if he did tell me, he didn't give me a chance to say yes or no, he just went AFK. 3. Even if I accepted, he came back after 27 minutes, not 15. 4. We had no idea when he'd be back or if he'd even be back. 5. At 18:48 when W.O was decided, we were 50 minutes past scheduled time.
nice detition!!
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What is the big fing deal, so someone has more important things to do than play starcraft! It is just a game and TSL 2 is just a tournament. Playing should be fun it is not life or death. I do think it is kind of shitty to give someone W/O win just cause one player is a little late.
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Calgary26003 Posts
On January 13 2010 08:40 Almtom wrote:
What is the big fing deal, so someone has more important things to do than play starcraft! It is just a game and TSL 2 is just a tournament. Playing should be fun it is not life or death. I do think it is kind of shitty to give someone W/O win just cause one player is a little late.
Your argument is self-defeating since there is a referee and two opponents with more important things to do as well.
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On January 13 2010 08:40 Almtom wrote:
What is the big fing deal, so someone has more important things to do than play starcraft! It is just a game and TSL 2 is just a tournament. Playing should be fun it is not life or death. I do think it is kind of shitty to give someone W/O win just cause one player is a little late.
Yeah sure, tournaments for sc with 10k as prize money for 1st place happen every other week end, what's the big deal? And little late is everything within one hour, right? And who cares about rules anyway, right? Right?
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On January 13 2010 08:40 Almtom wrote:
What is the big fing deal, so someone has more important things to do than play starcraft! It is just a game and TSL 2 is just a tournament. Playing should be fun it is not life or death. I do think it is kind of shitty to give someone W/O win just cause one player is a little late.
Be careful of what ur posting, because a tournament like this is taking place very rarely, and since the money price is so high people is very serious about this.
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I dont think this exact thing has been posted yet but following the conversation this is what I thought:
if he got sick of BW before the ladder ended and didn't really feel like playing the tournament why did he contact the TSL staff and provide the information they wanted? He HAD to make contact with them on several occasions and on any of those he could've said "bring in the next guy, I can't make it". I think saying that you "lost all respect for him" is a overstatement though, this is just a walkover, happens in every tournament. He's still a good player and he's bitching way less then other people have before him.
Feel kind of bad about Lz though, since he was so close to making it with the DQ's and stuf. Like the way he plays.
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What is the big fing deal, so someone has more important things to do than play starcraft!
well if its no big deal, he probably wouldnt mind getting dq'ed, would he`?
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On January 13 2010 09:28 Chill wrote:Show nested quote +On January 13 2010 08:40 Almtom wrote:
What is the big fing deal, so someone has more important things to do than play starcraft! It is just a game and TSL 2 is just a tournament. Playing should be fun it is not life or death. I do think it is kind of shitty to give someone W/O win just cause one player is a little late. Your argument is self-defeating since there is a referee and two opponents with more important things to do as well.
obviously Naugrim's time is worth more than everyone else's ...
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On January 12 2010 19:56 ThunderGod wrote:
Yo Naugrim, I hear kolll lives with his parents too.
You need to find some better ones - like his.
hey shut the fuck up ok?
is it the guy's fault if his parents are actually more concerned over his health and well being than a fucking online game?
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