Group C and Group L will be casted on Saturday, January 16. Group G and Group J will be casted on Sunday, January 17. Maps, Casters, and other details can be found here.
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Group A: Liquid`NonY Group B: mouz.Koll Group C: mouz.MaNa Group D: TT1 Group E: mouz.White-Ra Group F: Ret Group G: RoX.KIS.Fenix Group H: mouz.Sziky Group I:ToT)XiaOzI( Group J: ToT)Mondragon( Group K: DuskBin.Sen Group L: GosI[Terran]
Nony Koll Mana Strelok White Ra eh Flaf ( fuck zvz ) I thought that it would be Dreiven vs Fenix .... eh no idea about Fenix PvT so i will bet on Casper Tarson Koget Mondi Sen GosI[Terran]
G. Hmm.. imo, Casper has a chance here... but the other guy is protoss against terran, and he always gas rush+manner pylon into extreme faggotry.. toss is safe bet. OK, I say not-Casper wins.
Great matchups all in all, so few mirrors, and ret playing zvz has a certain charm to it too. I'm really curious about Morrow vs Koll, Koll showed he can take down Idra's bio, but he has no idea how to play against mech, I wonder what will Morrow do
sziky is fucking sick.. I don't think people should underestimate him. Especially since Tarson isn't really a huge TvZ monster. He is great obviously, he made it this far, but please don't be overlooking sziky.. some of you will be (hopefully) shocked by how good he is.
On January 12 2010 04:48 {88}iNcontroL wrote: sziky is fucking sick.. I don't think people should underestimate him. Especially since Tarson isn't really a huge TvZ monster. He is great obviously, he made it this far, but please don't be overlooking sziky.. some of you will be (hopefully) shocked by how good he is.
I like Tarson (and his livestream) quite a bit, but I've been really excited to see how Sziky plays. That said, IdrA's interview kinda brought the hype down a notch, but we'll see, I guess. Hoping for an awesome series either way.
Group A: (P)(us)Liquid`NonY Group B: (Z)(de)mouz.Kolll Group C: (Z)(pe)[Pan]CaStrO Group D: (T)(ua)mouz.Strelok Group E: (P)(ua)mouz.White-Ra Group F: (Z)(nl)Ret Group G: (P)(pe)RoX.KIS.Fenix Group H: (Z)(hu)mouz.Sziky Group I: (Z)(pl)(Z)(ca)ToT)XiaOzI( Group J: (Z)(de)ToT)Mondragon( Group K: (Z)(tw)DuskBin.Sen Group L: (P)(de)mTw.iNfeRnaL
If people watched horrors reps from Q1 and Q2 they shouldn't expect him to win a game. Likewise, if they saw Nony's play vs Idra they shouldn't expect him to lose one. I'm amazed anyone is suggesting anything but 3-0 there.
Group A: (P)(us)Liquid`NonY < (T)(de)mTw.HoRRoR Group B: (T)(se)eX-v1o)MorroW > (Z)(de)mouz.Kolll Group C: (P)(pl)mouz.MaNa > (Z)(pe)[Pan]CaStrO Group D: (T)(ua)mouz.Strelok > (P)(ca)[Pan]KabaL Group E: (P)(ua)mouz.White-Ra > (Z)(de)mTw.CloseR Group F: (Z)(nl)Ret > (Z)(ro)NrT.FlaF Group G: (P)(pe)RoX.KIS.Fenix > (T)(ru)iG.Casper Group H: (Z)(hu)mouz.Sziky < (T)(pl)iG.Tarson Group I: (Z)(pl)iG.kogeT < (Z)(ca)ToT)XiaOzI( Group J: (Z)(de)ToT)Mondragon > (T)(ro)Shaman Group K: (Z)(tw)DuskBin.Sen > (T)(de)mouz.GhosTa Group L: (T)(mx)GosI[Terran] > (P)(de)mTw.iNfeRnaL
I'm surprised that so many people are rooting for Shaman. His TvZ is probably his best MU at the moment, and he does bring it when the stakes are high but taking down Mondi is a big task to take on. I was 80% sure he'd beat iNc, but now I think he's gonna lose 3-2 or something. Though I really AM rooting for him. *fingers crossed*
Also. people predicting 3-0 ret vs fluff are kinda off. It's zvz for pete's sake. There's VERY little odds that that a bo5 will end in 3-0. Though I must agree with the whole thing being a coin flip in the end.
Although I have not really seen Ret's zvz in a long time.
I'm surprised everyone is picking Kolll vs morrow.. the last 2 times they met morrow absolutely dominated him. I watched the reps wanting to upload them (for a gg) but none of them were good.
That being said: Kabal could win. His PvT is pretty damn good. Ret could 3-0. From what I have seen of Flaf's zvz it isn't great.. I think he is far better ZvP/ZvT (pretty damn sick ZvP from what I saw vs G5). Fenix could lose another game to casper, maybe the series. The 3-1 prediction is misleading.. they both play a high risk high rewards style so it could go either way. Koget could beat tim. Ghosta is strong tvz but sen is the better player so that should be fairly solid win for sen.. although 3-2 could happen. Closest mu imo is mana vs castro.. both could win that easily.
MorroW vs Kolll, well the Last 2 times they faced MorroW won both, and iknow him so i root for my pal. MaNa and CaStrO for me are pretty even i think? But i think CaStrO will take it, hes Always good in tournaments. FlaF vs Ret MAYBE Just MAYBE something "shocking" could happen, but im rooting Ret to win. kogeT is very stabile nowadays i wont be "shocked" if he wins but i still Timothy can make it. Then the serie i Really want to see is GosiTerran vs iNfeRnaL, that one will be an epic fight for sure. I think GosiTerran could win vs iNfeRnaL, but my head still says that iNfeRnaL could take it too, thats the Only serie im Really "confused" on whos gonna win Really. But this is what i think will happen.
I'd be utterly shocked if HoRRoR took even a single game this series. If that happens, we'll all know he managed to find a good hiding place for a proxy factory. I've watched all his games so far and he's one of the weakest players in the whole tournament, I doubt he'll shape up enough to beat NonY in such a short time.
Koll can either play brilliantly or lose in a humiliating. From what I've seen of him, Koll's late game isn't exactly top notch, he's not very good against mech and if MorroW successfully cheeses him in the First or the second game he might even tilt away the whole series.
It will depend on how much it will lag, but I think MaNa has the edge here, especially on the new maps. I'm far from being objective, though, but to be Honest, CaStrO's play did not impress me that much so far.
Strelok's TvP is by far his best match-up and he is the better player here. TT1 has a very aggresive Style, but Strelok is aware of that and I don't see any surprises happening.
Ret's ZvZ is far from the best outside korea and it's a lottery, to a certain degree. Anything might happen, but I think Ret will manage to take this home, but Just barely.
I have no idea who Sziky is. Tarson's best mu is TvZ, though, and he's no doubt the best Polish terran to (currently) walk the Earth. The maps suit his Style of play, I don't think he'll lose.
On January 13 2010 07:42 Trezeguet23 wrote: The germans are walking into the TSL just like they did many years ago into france. You may have read about it in a book, The French Revolution.
I have no idea what you're trying to say. But The French Revolution predates the creation of the German state by 80 years. And in revolutionary Europe French soldiers were smashing the German states and creating a French dominated confederacy in their place. So Germans to TSL is comparable to Germanic states to being overrun by the armies of Napoleon before the creation of Germany. :S Are the German TSL entrants being aborted? :S
On January 13 2010 07:42 Trezeguet23 wrote: The germans are walking into the TSL just like they did many years ago into france. You may have read about it in a book, The French Revolution.
I have no idea what you're trying to say. But The French Revolution predates the creation of the German state by 80 years. And in revolutionary Europe French soldiers were smashing the German states and creating a French dominated confederacy in their place. So Germans to TSL is comparable to Germanic states to being overrun by the armies of Napoleon before the creation of Germany. :S Are the German TSL entrants being aborted? :S
lol man you obviously missed the point. Go watch the analisys of "The Phantom Menace" on youtube, you will be enlightened Here is a link, just cuz im such a nice guy
Enjoy )
ps. i hope im allowed youtube links, cuz i havent seen many. If im not i will edit it out
On January 13 2010 07:42 Trezeguet23 wrote: The germans are walking into the TSL just like they did many years ago into france. You may have read about it in a book, The French Revolution.
I have no idea what you're trying to say. But The French Revolution predates the creation of the German state by 80 years. And in revolutionary Europe French soldiers were smashing the German states and creating a French dominated confederacy in their place. So Germans to TSL is comparable to Germanic states to being overrun by the armies of Napoleon before the creation of Germany. :S Are the German TSL entrants being aborted? :S
It makes me so angry when people call the French surrenderers or use French as an equivalent for bad fighting spirit. I know this wasnt the case here but it triggered the rage anyway^^.( A remote connection suffices) To anyone who thinks the french are wussies and makes french jokes: BEHOLD OF THE WARNERD: http://exile.ru/articles/detail.php?ARTICLE_ID=7061&IBLOCK_ID=35 thank you . small excerpt: "Anybody who knows anything about European military history knows damn well that over the past thousand years, the French have the most glorious military history in Europe, maybe the world."
On January 13 2010 07:42 Trezeguet23 wrote: The germans are walking into the TSL just like they did many years ago into france. You may have read about it in a book, The French Revolution.
I have no idea what you're trying to say. But The French Revolution predates the creation of the German state by 80 years. And in revolutionary Europe French soldiers were smashing the German states and creating a French dominated confederacy in their place. So Germans to TSL is comparable to Germanic states to being overrun by the armies of Napoleon before the creation of Germany. :S Are the German TSL entrants being aborted? :S
It makes me so angry when people call the French surrenderers or use French as an equivalent for bad fighting spirit. I know this wasnt the case here but it triggered the rage anyway^^.( A remote connection suffices) To anyone who thinks the french are wussies and makes french jokes: BEHOLD OF THE WARNERD: http://exile.ru/articles/detail.php?ARTICLE_ID=7061&IBLOCK_ID=35 thank you . small excerpt: "Anybody who knows anything about European military history knows damn well that over the past thousand years, the French have the most glorious military history in Europe, maybe the world."
On January 13 2010 07:42 Trezeguet23 wrote: The germans are walking into the TSL just like they did many years ago into france. You may have read about it in a book, The French Revolution.
I have no idea what you're trying to say. But The French Revolution predates the creation of the German state by 80 years. And in revolutionary Europe French soldiers were smashing the German states and creating a French dominated confederacy in their place. So Germans to TSL is comparable to Germanic states to being overrun by the armies of Napoleon before the creation of Germany. :S Are the German TSL entrants being aborted? :S
It makes me so angry when people call the French surrenderers or use French as an equivalent for bad fighting spirit. I know this wasnt the case here but it triggered the rage anyway^^.( A remote connection suffices) To anyone who thinks the french are wussies and makes french jokes: BEHOLD OF THE WARNERD: http://exile.ru/articles/detail.php?ARTICLE_ID=7061&IBLOCK_ID=35 thank you . small excerpt: "Anybody who knows anything about European military history knows damn well that over the past thousand years, the French have the most glorious military history in Europe, maybe the world."
On January 13 2010 07:42 Trezeguet23 wrote: The germans are walking into the TSL just like they did many years ago into france. You may have read about it in a book, The French Revolution.
I have no idea what you're trying to say. But The French Revolution predates the creation of the German state by 80 years. And in revolutionary Europe French soldiers were smashing the German states and creating a French dominated confederacy in their place. So Germans to TSL is comparable to Germanic states to being overrun by the armies of Napoleon before the creation of Germany. :S Are the German TSL entrants being aborted? :S
It makes me so angry when people call the French surrenderers or use French as an equivalent for bad fighting spirit. I know this wasnt the case here but it triggered the rage anyway^^.( A remote connection suffices) To anyone who thinks the french are wussies and makes french jokes: BEHOLD OF THE WARNERD: http://exile.ru/articles/detail.php?ARTICLE_ID=7061&IBLOCK_ID=35 thank you . small excerpt: "Anybody who knows anything about European military history knows damn well that over the past thousand years, the French have the most glorious military history in Europe, maybe the world."
Nony 3-1 Kolll 3-2 Castro 3-2 Strelok 3-0 White-Ra 3-1 Ret 3-2 Casper 3-2 but might go either way Tarson 3-2 Xiaozi 3-1 Mondragon 3-0 Sen 3-0 Terran 3-2
Despite coming this far (a thing a lot of hyped players didnt achieve) HoRRoRs beeing talked down so much I really hope he`s going to bring his A-Game ........FlaFroll him HoRRoR ;D
Group A: Horror Group B: Morrow bu i still hope for Kolll Group C: Castro Group D: Strelok Group E: Closer Group F: Ret Group G: dunno.. Fenix vs Casper should be pretty even Group H: Sziky Group I: kogeT cause of his winningstreak lately Group J: Mondragon but he will have a hard time.. Shaman rly impressive laste games Group K: Sen im cheering for GhosTa tho Group L: iNfeRnaL
On January 13 2010 07:42 Trezeguet23 wrote: The germans are walking into the TSL just like they did many years ago into france. You may have read about it in a book, The French Revolution.
I have no idea what you're trying to say. But The French Revolution predates the creation of the German state by 80 years. And in revolutionary Europe French soldiers were smashing the German states and creating a French dominated confederacy in their place. So Germans to TSL is comparable to Germanic states to being overrun by the armies of Napoleon before the creation of Germany. :S Are the German TSL entrants being aborted? :S
It makes me so angry when people call the French surrenderers or use French as an equivalent for bad fighting spirit. I know this wasnt the case here but it triggered the rage anyway^^.( A remote connection suffices) To anyone who thinks the french are wussies and makes french jokes: BEHOLD OF THE WARNERD: http://exile.ru/articles/detail.php?ARTICLE_ID=7061&IBLOCK_ID=35 thank you . small excerpt: "Anybody who knows anything about European military history knows damn well that over the past thousand years, the French have the most glorious military history in Europe, maybe the world."
Group A: Liquid`NonY Group B: mouz.Kolll Group C: [Pan]CaStrO Group D: mouz.Strelok Group E: mouz.White-Ra Group F: Ret Group G: RoX.KIS.Fenix Group H: mouz.Sziky Group I: ToT)XiaOzI( Group J: ToT)Mondragon( Group K: DuskBin.Sen Group L: GosI[Terran]
On January 13 2010 07:42 Trezeguet23 wrote: The germans are walking into the TSL just like they did many years ago into france. You may have read about it in a book, The French Revolution.
Why can't I understand ZvZ better! WHAT is wrong with me!
Even though that "not understanding" the matchup is probably meant with korean pro gaming standards, but it still surely adds a nice layer of excitement to the upcoming matchup: maybe Flaf, of all people, could upset ret? Rarely am I looking forward to ZvZ series, but this time I'm actually curious.
Sorry if it's been mentioned, but is the TL calendar wrong about this? Says it's happening Sunday the 17th and Monday the 18th, but the thread says the 16th and the 17th.
On January 13 2010 07:42 Trezeguet23 wrote: The germans are walking into the TSL just like they did many years ago into france. You may have read about it in a book, The French Revolution.
I have no idea what you're trying to say. But The French Revolution predates the creation of the German state by 80 years. And in revolutionary Europe French soldiers were smashing the German states and creating a French dominated confederacy in their place. So Germans to TSL is comparable to Germanic states to being overrun by the armies of Napoleon before the creation of Germany. :S Are the German TSL entrants being aborted? :S
It makes me so angry when people call the French surrenderers or use French as an equivalent for bad fighting spirit. I know this wasnt the case here but it triggered the rage anyway^^.( A remote connection suffices) To anyone who thinks the french are wussies and makes french jokes: BEHOLD OF THE WARNERD: http://exile.ru/articles/detail.php?ARTICLE_ID=7061&IBLOCK_ID=35 thank you . small excerpt: "Anybody who knows anything about European military history knows damn well that over the past thousand years, the French have the most glorious military history in Europe, maybe the world."
Group A: (T)(de)mTw.HoRRoR Group B: (Z)(de)mouz.Kolll Group C: (P)(pl)mouz.MaNa Group D: (T)(ua)mouz.Strelok Group E: (P)(ua)mouz.White-Ra Group F: (Z)(nl)Ret Group G: (P)(pe)mouz.Fenix Group H: (T)(pl)iG.Tarson Group I: (Z)(ca)ToT)XiaOzI( Group J: (Z)(de)ToT)Mondragon( Group K: (Z)(tw)DuskBin.Sen Group L: (T)(mx)GosI[Terran] < Bo5 > (P)(de)mTw.iNfeRnaL
On January 17 2010 04:00 Crimson wrote: ugh. 15 minutes added to timer
epic long games?
They aren't being played currently .. it's pretty much standard for TL events to be late a few minutes, like Blizzard products, later than expected but the quality is great.
Game 1 has great builds, great micro from both players. GosI[Terran] with pro-gamer level mine laying, and Infernal with equally good micro to fend it off. Amazing, both of these two already looking like they belong in the top 16.
ISN'T SPOILING RESULTS ILLEGAL?... Juan just said he won 40 minutes ago..... I feel like people good like DIMAGA or yosh got DQ for fooling with the rules, and this kid is "doing it" right now?
I edited this to contact and admin first, but I'll let it the way I wrote it first
ISN'T SPOILING RESULTS ILLEGAL?... Juan just said he won 40 minutes ago..... I feel like people good like DIMAGA or yosh got DQ for fooling with the rules, and this kid is "doing it" right now?
I edited this to contact and admin first, but I'll let it the way I wrote it first
I'm pretty sure those are predictions, not results, given that + Show Spoiler +
Terran beat infernal, and he has it the other way.
Koll playing like Jaedong this TSL haha... loses game 1 and then comes back and sweeps his opponents. (Lost game 1 to OctZerg and then took the rest of the series and repeats the same scenario against Morrow)
On January 17 2010 09:37 zergpower123 wrote: Ret has a tough journey, he has to beat Flaf and then Castro and then if Sen beats Draco, he will have to face Sen. SOOOO many zvzs!!!!!!!
poor ret :/ zvz get positive about that challenge !
Yeah, this actually bugs med quite a bit. A very well organied tourney, but then the upload of that second match gets delayed. Searching for the VOD (which is nowhere to be found) I even got spoiled. A pity. A small notice somwhere or an earlier upload could avoid this.
Yeah, this actually bugs med quite a bit. A very well organied tourney, but then the upload of that second match gets delayed. Searching for the VOD (which is nowhere to be found) I even got spoiled. A pity. A small notice somwhere or an earlier upload could avoid this.
On January 18 2010 05:55 kulik- wrote: imo chill is just so terrible.. his opinion mostly so wrond.. his idea of end of the battle also bad...
Can you link to specific parts or give me specific examples? Thanks.
LOL nevermind, 4% of your posts are about how much I suck. Thanks for the constructive criticism ahahah:
On November 08 2009 18:10 kulik- wrote: chill u acting like arogant nerd
On December 28 2009 01:44 kulik- wrote: Chill yes we have to speculate because we are not like u that we know everything and to us regular user who does not know any imporatant people we just dont get the info so we speculate... after how long officialy knew that ret was kicked for first time and then another time?
On January 10 2010 05:02 kulik- wrote: fuck i hate chill... he really iritiate me i love artosis but chill... imo hes lame low knowledge of bw...
On January 10 2010 05:09 kulik- wrote: how can chill can say that it wasnt good angle for nony... ..
On January 10 2010 05:37 kulik- wrote: chill remind me comentator from Average joes dodgeball...
On January 13 2010 03:38 kulik- wrote: ye and thx chill they will understand bw less than before that match because chill makin quite bad point about all games i saw him comentating
On January 18 2010 04:44 kulik- wrote: jesus chill is so terrible in pvt
On December 28 2009 01:44 kulik- wrote: Chill yes we have to speculate because we are not like u that we know everything and to us regular user who does not know any imporatant people we just dont get the info so we speculate... after how long officialy knew that ret was kicked for first time and then another time?
On January 13 2010 03:38 kulik- wrote: ye and thx chill they will understand bw less than before that match because chill makin quite bad point about all games i saw him comentating
EPT
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Liquid`NonY
mTw.HoRRoR
eX-v1o)MorroW
mouz.MaNa
[Pan]CaStrO
mouz.Strelok
[Pan]KabaL
Ret
NrT.FlaF
iG.Casper
mouz.Sziky
DuskBin.Sen
GosI[Terran]
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