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Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
December 13 2009 12:46 GMT
#101
would be fun to put all the DQed in one cheater pool and make them duke it out - lol @ stigmate
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
December 13 2009 12:48 GMT
#102
On December 13 2009 21:45 Bifur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2009 21:43 mdb wrote:
This is absultely ridiculous. I cant believe this is happening. People risking being dq for 2-3 wins.
A little drama is good, but this is too much. I now kinda wish, that tl.net announced before the start of the ladder that they had a method of catching this type of abuse. So so many great players will not play now T_T


Show nested quote +
On December 13 2009 21:20 RHoudini wrote:
On December 13 2009 21:09 yarkO wrote:
On December 13 2009 21:02 RHoudini wrote:
On December 13 2009 21:01 Boonbag wrote:
I mean that abusing that little number of wins is complete non sense unless I'm failing to understand.

Cheating is cheating. One game, two games, ten games, makes no difference whatsoever.


i think he means it makes no sense to cheat to go only go up like 200 pts or something.

200 points is the difference between place 5 and place 14.
200 points is the difference between place 24 and place 38.
Two or three free wins without taking any risk do make quite a difference.



Maybe the right thing would be just take these points away and not to ban them?

Yeah we really want people to do this without risking anything. Remember, this is just the people who were stupid enough to use the same IP twice.
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
December 13 2009 12:49 GMT
#103
On December 13 2009 21:45 Bifur wrote:
Maybe the right thing would be just take these points away and not to ban them?


Tell that to Kwark or others who by all rights could have made it into the tournament had they not felt they needed to play even more games to catch up to some people with imaginary points. A couple hundred points effects too many players around them in the ladder to justify allowing them to stay; even in the cases of those who would have easily made top 48 such as Dimaga and Yosh.
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HoRRoR.T-ScT-
Profile Joined March 2007
Germany51 Posts
December 13 2009 12:49 GMT
#104
Come on, more DQs please!
Intr3pid
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Switzerland336 Posts
December 13 2009 12:50 GMT
#105
Too greedy, sad people. An updated ladder with all DQ would be nice, slowly i'm losing overview of the current standings.
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13086 Posts
December 13 2009 12:52 GMT
#106
Damn it im so much disapointed by top players abusing 2-3 wins because they are lazy to play like 10-20 games more. No doubt in my mind A2 Yosh Dimaga Reason and Sarens are just great players but so lazy ....be ashamed of yourselfs and see guys who have like 300-500 (or more! )games like Morrow Kr Octzerg Sen White-ra and lot of other gamers and you dont even wanna play 100-150 games out of LAZYNESS.

Now thinnk if its worth the risk to miss up on 10k $ for 200-300 points. I can understand ppl like scan mercury ribo and vasilisk who are not that good to get into 48 and got NOTHING to lose but you guys have no excuse.

Im disapoint... TSL will lose on quality games but you guys deserve even bigger punishment for future TSL or similar events.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
December 13 2009 12:52 GMT
#107
thats just sick
OMG !?
hatred outlives the hateful
Doso
Profile Joined March 2008
Germany769 Posts
December 13 2009 12:52 GMT
#108
Should i be worried that ICCup has a database full of logged IP addresses for over a month? :\
Mr Right
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden67 Posts
December 13 2009 12:53 GMT
#109
On December 13 2009 21:52 Doso wrote:
Should i be worried that ICCup has a database full of logged IP addresses for over a month? :\


Why would that worry you
BG1
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Canada1550 Posts
December 13 2009 12:59 GMT
#110
It's unfortunate that so many players have resorted to abuse, especially when many of them were genuine contenders to win the whole tourney. I hope they've learned their lesson.
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Adeny
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway1233 Posts
December 13 2009 13:00 GMT
#111
On December 13 2009 21:52 Doso wrote:
Should i be worried that ICCup has a database full of logged IP addresses for over a month? :\


Definately not...
aqui
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany1023 Posts
December 13 2009 13:03 GMT
#112
On December 13 2009 21:44 Boonbag wrote:
what i still don't get is why, if it's only a matter of 200 points, not wait and bash a few selected newbies and grind these 200 points with 4 games instead..

I think its like this:
Players like Dimaga and Yosh reasoned it was clever to sample playstyles perhabs even test reactions to certain builds. Especially on their high level this is a way to get an adavantage over their opponents. After endless hours of grinding with the smurfs they get tired and think. Damn i beat so many top people and get 0 points doing so. Perhabs their place in q3 qualifier is even at risk and they think. i earned that fucking points, i did not even dodge, i can have at least a small piece of the cake. they transfer stats to a friend and get 2 free wins.
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13086 Posts
December 13 2009 13:03 GMT
#113
I wonder is this is the final list of abusers looks like they check up all players on top 48 and post 4 players at the time i seriosly dont wanna see other top players that resorted to abuse.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
December 13 2009 13:05 GMT
#114
Keep up the awesome detection work

Sad that so many douches cheat for just 2 games...
In the woods, there lurks..
Art_of_Kill
Profile Joined September 2003
Zaire1232 Posts
December 13 2009 13:07 GMT
#115
so dimaga get DQ for 2x 97points ...
TLT07 ===> *winner* <===TLT08
AmstAff
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany949 Posts
December 13 2009 13:10 GMT
#116
omg sarens -_-;
after 2 years i reached it = marine icon
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
December 13 2009 13:13 GMT
#117
Stupid goddamn abusers, can't play straight to qualify, jeez.
Vasilisk should be banned for hacking before TSL even started, that douche never changes :\
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lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
December 13 2009 13:18 GMT
#118
On December 13 2009 22:07 Art_of_Kill wrote:
so dimaga get DQ for 2x 97points ...

yes?
You can't fight the feeling.
QibingZero
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
2611 Posts
December 13 2009 13:19 GMT
#119
On December 13 2009 21:30 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
so.. 11 players actually abused using their very own IP address...
This leaves me guessing how many actually abused with friends or clanmates, which is harder if not impossible to track.
maybe half of the top48 tried to cheat their way in... really sad what money does to people.


This is valid, I think. The players DQed so far made it obvious, what about others who didn't? It's very hard to differentiate late 'series' wins that might have been done maliciously from ones that were, as people put it before, just players trying to get a shot at playing against one of the top foreigners at their best.

And another question: was playing on a non-TSL account for the purposes of judging other players' strategy/style illegal by itself?
Oh, my eSports
aqui
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany1023 Posts
December 13 2009 13:21 GMT
#120
On December 13 2009 22:19 QibingZero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2009 21:30 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:
so.. 11 players actually abused using their very own IP address...
This leaves me guessing how many actually abused with friends or clanmates, which is harder if not impossible to track.
maybe half of the top48 tried to cheat their way in... really sad what money does to people.


This is valid, I think. The players DQed so far made it obvious, what about others who didn't? It's very hard to differentiate late 'series' wins that might have been done maliciously from ones that were, as people put it before, just players trying to get a shot at playing against one of the top foreigners at their best.

And another question: was playing on a non-TSL account for the purposes of judging other players' strategy/style illegal by itself?

yes it was and that was the actual purpose of the TOP dqed people imho.
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