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QuanticHawk
United States32132 Posts
2 days is a slap on the wrist bans seriously up your e-cred!! | ||
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Badjas
Netherlands2038 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45762 Posts
On June 21 2010 22:35 clickrush wrote: I suggest you take a look at the post he got warned for and the post he got banned for. Those are clearly posts where he defended himself against insults. Then look at his other posts in the thread. I dont see any post where he was bad mannered. he got into the discussion and explained some details. In some of the later posts he was very defensive, stating that he is pissed because he contributes and shares his knowledge and then gets flamed. And compare this with all the insults towards him in the whole thread. Holy crap I wonder why he didnt act even more aggressive! I have read through that thread, as well as many other threads/posts of his. They are usually very informative, but he simply doesn't take any criticism well. This has been a re-occurring issue, and the temp ban was perfectly justified by the admin's rules. For cryin' out loud, it's only two days! Artosis makes some very cogent points, but so do other players that disagree with him. I agree that people shouldn't have whined about that thread to the extent that they did, but that doesn't excuse Artosis from his behavior either. Anyways, this isn't a topic I'm willing to start a fight over, so I'm gonna go do other stuff... have an awesome day. | ||
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kar1181
United Kingdom515 Posts
The problem though wasn't the discussion of the topic or even the quality of the arguments being made (and some were dubious). It was all the discussion of posters themselves. it was a shame, because had people stuck to the topic itself rather than ad-hominems it could have been quite a constructive exchange. Idra is right though, a name perhaps acts as a lightning rod. Especially so when the subject matter is controversial. I'm not in favour of giving some people more slack than others, but I can imagine is must be so very frustrating as a 'name' to be unable to just say what you think without it being taken to pieces, and being called personally into question, without mercy. I think he was quite aggressive from the get-go, and that probably didn't help matters. I wonder, like when your girlfriend gets pissed off), a number of things were getting to him (e.g. the camera thread) and this was just the boiling point. Either way, I hope he comes back soon, and stays so forthright. As even if I don't necessary agree with everything he says, I find what he has to say incredibly fascinating anyway and one of the reasons I joined the site. | ||
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Invictus
Singapore2697 Posts
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Sadistx
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
If any of you actually looked at the SC2 strategy forum guidelines, you'd see that his post was garbage by those standards as well - no reps, no arguments besides "I said so, because I'm a kinda good zerg on Asia and Idra agrees with me". I'm surprised that thread didn't get closed much earlier, since it was terrible posting from both sides. Nony and FA had the only reasonable posts there. | ||
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
Once again, I repeat: "Ah, the SCII forums. Nowhere else will you find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious." | ||
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kar1181
United Kingdom515 Posts
But at the same time, do you know when you see someone doing something stupid, and you know they shouldn't be doing it. But you kinda understand why they are, anyway? That's what it was like here, to me, anyway. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
I don't see any horn lighting up for anyone though, but I don't know how those vent spammers work so. | ||
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iNcontroL
USA29055 Posts
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ghermination
United States2851 Posts
That being said he's been really hissy for a while and i find he believes his word is untouchable, himself being the all knowing god of starcraft. Especially with starcraft 2, where the gameplay hasn't even begun to evolve like it did in sc1. So i think the ban was deserved. | ||
BroOd
Austin10833 Posts
On June 22 2010 04:55 {88}iNcontroL wrote: mods only check this thread after they make a funny when they ban someone charlie. PM an actual mod or MSN them. I am sure you have a way to contact a moderator charlie. Not true :l Charlie: PM intrigue | ||
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
How would people compare Artosis' reaction to the "Why are all livestreamers such big whiners?" http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=111996 Ranging from It seems that every single person that live streams feels that they're the victim. No one can go by saying something about the stream without the streamer flipping out, pulling the most unreasonable hissy fit, and then banning everyone who says anything remotely "hurtful". I mean SERIOUSLY? Livestreamers are either the most uptight, self-righteous bastards or the whimpiest, most self-conscious individuals I have ever come into contact with. I won't point out names *coughkonadoracough* but one livestreamer decided that they'd had enough of the viewers and decided to post a whiny blog talking about how their feelings were hurt and all that other pussy stuff. to are you seriously complaining about someone who provides a free service to you at a ridiculous hour for no reward whatsoever and puts up with thousands (not one or two) bitching internet trolls a week? i can't believe someone as juvenile as you is allowed to legally vote. appreciate what you have, and stop being such a brat in chat. EDIT: i'm surprised at how many people are agreeing with the OP. you are all pathetic single children. this is unbelievable, I thought TL had more respectable people on it. | ||
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Pokebunny
United States10654 Posts
On June 22 2010 03:40 Grobyc wrote: I have to agree with the people saying Artosis' behaviour was unacceptable. It's been noticeable in his replies to peoples posts in some of his previous threads as well. It's similar to NeverGG's ban in the fashion that he was playing martyr, but he has been doing it for an extended length of time where it has progressively gotten worse. NeverGG would have been alright if she kept up her regular posting excluding the whole Flash project deal. QFT.. exactly my thoughts. Seriously, exactly. | ||
Chill
Calgary25998 Posts
On June 22 2010 04:15 CharlieMurphy wrote: dunno where to put this, but there is some annoying fucker in the vent playing some shitty woman singing or something for a few seconds every 10-15 seconds. And I see some guy named tdot in the vent. I don't see any horn lighting up for anyone though, but I don't know how those vent spammers work so. I don't even know what to do with you. At this point I'm waiting for you to make a fuck up so I can perm you. | ||
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clickrush
Switzerland3257 Posts
On June 22 2010 05:24 Chill wrote: I don't even know what to do with you. At this point I'm waiting for you to make a fuck up so I can perm you. lol this statement seems to be quite random from my point of view. | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On June 22 2010 05:27 clickrush wrote: lol this statement seems to be quite random from my point of view. Nah, it's CM. Just browse through his thread history. He's got some good ones in there. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
Btw, It's still fucking happening. Incontrol, yea let me just pick a name out of a hat and hope he's online and has mod access in the vent. Chill, what kind of attitude is that? Like seriously, how does a good well meaning post (possibly slightly misplaced) turn into a 'fuck you idiot, you should be banned'? Did my post seriously bother you that much? I am beyond disbelief. | ||
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rredtooth
5464 Posts
On June 22 2010 08:51 CharlieMurphy wrote: can't you... just... you know... get off of vent or something?What the hell is wrong with my post here? I was fucking sleeping with my vent radio on, and I hear these fucking loud spams and it wakes me up. You guys are lucky I even posted anything anywhere. Btw, It's still fucking happening. Chill, what kind of attitude is that? | ||
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