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This thread is for discussing recent bans. Don't discuss other topics here.

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Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
February 22 2012 20:22 GMT
#16621
I know mods can see a ton more than regular users, such as ban history, posts that have been edited out, etc. But can they also see how many of someone's posts have been reported?
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Kamais Ookin
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada591 Posts
February 22 2012 20:23 GMT
#16622
On February 23 2012 05:11 motbob wrote:
Let me just say that multiple mods read ZeroCartin's post but declined to take action. When I read his post, I was unaware he was staff.
This is proof that Cartin didn't do anything wrong. Admins on TL can ban mods here EZ but he wasn't banned. Why? Because "fuck you" can be legit. To the guys on the previous page quoting me, I respect your guy's opinion but I'm still convinced that there's nothing wrong with this.
MAL Profile: http://myanimelist.net/profile/Kamais_Ookin Twitch account streaming fighting games and PC games, etc twitch.tv/kamais_ookin
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-22 20:32:30
February 22 2012 20:26 GMT
#16623
On February 23 2012 05:23 Kamais Ookin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 05:11 motbob wrote:
Let me just say that multiple mods read ZeroCartin's post but declined to take action. When I read his post, I was unaware he was staff.
This is proof that Cartin didn't do anything wrong. Admins on TL can ban mods here EZ but he wasn't banned. Why? Because "fuck you" can be legit. To the guys on the previous page quoting me, I respect your guy's opinion but I'm still convinced that there's nothing wrong with this.

speaking only for myself, I just don't see legitimate discussion coming from people insulting each other at the outset of their post. sure, "fuck you" can be used appropriately (mostly between friends and in a comedic sense), but random forum posters (especially ones that are arguing) will not be able to use it in a productive manner (in my opinion).

however, the mods looked at his post, decided it wasn't actionable (including at least one who didn't know he was staff), and i am fine with that explanation. i don't agree and i have seen similar posts banned or warned, but the mods decide, not me.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
February 22 2012 20:35 GMT
#16624
On February 23 2012 05:23 Kamais Ookin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 05:11 motbob wrote:
Let me just say that multiple mods read ZeroCartin's post but declined to take action. When I read his post, I was unaware he was staff.
This is proof that Cartin didn't do anything wrong. Admins on TL can ban mods here EZ but he wasn't banned. Why? Because "fuck you" can be legit. To the guys on the previous page quoting me, I respect your guy's opinion but I'm still convinced that there's nothing wrong with this.


people are banned for being 'negative' but fuck you is ok?
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-22 20:39:19
February 22 2012 20:38 GMT
#16625
On February 23 2012 05:35 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 05:23 Kamais Ookin wrote:
On February 23 2012 05:11 motbob wrote:
Let me just say that multiple mods read ZeroCartin's post but declined to take action. When I read his post, I was unaware he was staff.
This is proof that Cartin didn't do anything wrong. Admins on TL can ban mods here EZ but he wasn't banned. Why? Because "fuck you" can be legit. To the guys on the previous page quoting me, I respect your guy's opinion but I'm still convinced that there's nothing wrong with this.


people are banned for being 'negative' but fuck you is ok?

If you would like to point out a double standard in my moderating, please PM me. I'd be happy to explain my actions.

This thread is getting off-topic. Try to keep the subject on people who have been banned, not on TL moderation in general.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Pusekatten
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway234 Posts
February 22 2012 20:44 GMT
#16626
I just got a question about the ban list, sometimes I see a user get banned in under 1 min after making a new account, with the reason previously banned user. All that is ok, but how do you know your banning the right guy? Do you use IP, or some other way, and if you use IP how can you be sure its not someone on the same network (like a student home for instance)?
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
February 22 2012 20:48 GMT
#16627
even banned users can pm staff, if there was a mistake they could still ask the staff to reconsider.
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-22 22:22:18
February 22 2012 20:50 GMT
#16628
R1CH doesn't make mistakes. If the wrong person were banned, somehow it would be their fault.

edit:
Clarity_nl was just temp banned for 2 days by motbob.

That account was created on 2011-11-08 06:05:36 and had 108 posts.

Reason: Shouldn't have derailed the thread.


A bit of advice: don't troll SkyR in Tech Support. Like 90% of those "8k posts" are him using his free time to help people with their PC issues. He's also pretty smart.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
February 23 2012 01:09 GMT
#16629
I have an honest question here,

I just saw a user get banned for this post, and it raises a question that I've been wondering for quite a while.

Why is it OK to gender discriminate positively, but to question that ban-worthy?

I, personally, think some of the female discrimination in SC2 is fairly silly. For example, at MLG Providence; x6.Ailuj got a main-stage featured match against LosirA because:

It had potential to be a good game
She was the best female player competing
She was the most attractive female competing

If I've overstepped any boundaries with this post, please let me know, but I feel it's a legitimate thing to question.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
February 23 2012 01:17 GMT
#16630
I feel the same. I heartily dislike this "discrimination" that grants women these different tournaments for cash prizes and also gives them more attention, which in turn leads to money. I see nothing wrong with that post, and I would definitely say the same thing if he wasn't already banned for it.
TheToast
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4808 Posts
February 23 2012 01:31 GMT
#16631
On February 23 2012 10:17 Chocolate wrote:
I feel the same. I heartily dislike this "discrimination" that grants women these different tournaments for cash prizes and also gives them more attention, which in turn leads to money. I see nothing wrong with that post, and I would definitely say the same thing if he wasn't already banned for it.


It's bannable for the same reason balance whining is bannable; because no one wants to hear you whine.

If you really have a problem with it make a thread in website feedback.
I like the way the walls go out. Gives you an open feeling. Firefly's a good design. People don't appreciate the substance of things. Objects in space. People miss out on what's solid.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
February 23 2012 01:33 GMT
#16632
meh I guess its a bit of affirmative action? if you dont give females an advantage to get exposure, then they will take a long time to develop to the point where exposure can be earned, and by that point, it may have become too discouraging. additionally, you add other female progamers who potentially will earn their spot
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-23 01:53:46
February 23 2012 01:49 GMT
#16633
Far be it from a random poster on an internet board to start deciding how society works. Not that I know anything regarding the matter, but there is no need to focus on the sexist aspect. I'd say it would be more tasteful to just consider that female "pro gamers" are a minority in the scene, and as such should be given some key opportunities to hit the spotlight. Wasn't Ailuj the first female to get a main-stage match in MLG? I see nothing wrong with that.
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27156 Posts
February 23 2012 01:56 GMT
#16634
The user was banned because he has a history of moderation, and I feel that his question isn't genuine. He is not interested in her answer, he is interested in injecting his opinion into an interview. That is childish and unacceptable.

Having that opinion is not bannable, but forwarding like that is just being a jerk.
ModeratorGodfather
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
February 23 2012 02:01 GMT
#16635
On February 23 2012 10:33 CeriseCherries wrote:
meh I guess its a bit of affirmative action? if you dont give females an advantage to get exposure, then they will take a long time to develop to the point where exposure can be earned, and by that point, it may have become too discouraging. additionally, you add other female progamers who potentially will earn their spot

females dont need any help to get additional exposure in video games. how many viewers do megumibear, julia and aphrodite get compared to much better players? signing females is a smart move by teams because they drastically increase their exposure. signing a female player who is moderately good is like a gold mine for a team. i guarantee that if a female makes it into code s, she will likely be the most popular player--like idra level popular.
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-23 02:39:06
February 23 2012 02:33 GMT
#16636
1. sex sells (duh). and there isn't anything wrong with that.
2. women should be encouraged to get into esports and contribute, and one way to do that is to showcase female players at tournaments when possible, even if they are "not good" or something silly like that.
3. a more physically attractive woman will gather more attention from other women as well, not just men. its not a sexual thing (most of the time), its an unconscious admiration thing. the same reason why you see QBs and running backs on commercials 99% of the time instead of offensive linemen. unless it's a chunky soup or hungry man commercial, and even then you're more likely to see tom brady than matt light.
4. did i mention that sex sells?

females dont need any help to get additional exposure in video games.


i would disagree, in an area where 99.9% (HYPERBOLE!) of the players and the fans are still men, women participating should be encouraged and to some degree showcased.
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
February 23 2012 04:36 GMT
#16637
perm banned for martyring.... i assume he has a history... but that was hilarious....

jinixxx123 was just banned by Waxangel.

That account was created on 2010-06-19 15:29:50 and had 537 posts.

Reason: martyring :D

Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
February 23 2012 04:37 GMT
#16638
Just wanted to post a quick shout-out to Jibba and Kwark for their remarkable restraint in the Republican Nominees Thread. There is some A-grade trolling happening but it is pretty border line and both of them have been really patient. I daer anyone to read this guy's posts and not want to punch your screen.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
February 23 2012 04:38 GMT
#16639
On February 23 2012 05:23 Kamais Ookin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 05:11 motbob wrote:
Let me just say that multiple mods read ZeroCartin's post but declined to take action. When I read his post, I was unaware he was staff.
This is proof that Cartin didn't do anything wrong. Admins on TL can ban mods here EZ but he wasn't banned. Why? Because "fuck you" can be legit. To the guys on the previous page quoting me, I respect your guy's opinion but I'm still convinced that there's nothing wrong with this.

i just wanted to point out the irony in this post.... because the timing was impeccable...

On February 23 2012 10:56 R3demption wrote:
Fuck you.

User was temp banned for this post.
Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
February 23 2012 04:55 GMT
#16640
On February 23 2012 13:38 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 05:23 Kamais Ookin wrote:
On February 23 2012 05:11 motbob wrote:
Let me just say that multiple mods read ZeroCartin's post but declined to take action. When I read his post, I was unaware he was staff.
This is proof that Cartin didn't do anything wrong. Admins on TL can ban mods here EZ but he wasn't banned. Why? Because "fuck you" can be legit. To the guys on the previous page quoting me, I respect your guy's opinion but I'm still convinced that there's nothing wrong with this.

i just wanted to point out the irony in this post.... because the timing was impeccable...

Show nested quote +
On February 23 2012 10:56 R3demption wrote:
Fuck you.

User was temp banned for this post.


He can be redeemed!!
...well maybe.
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