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This thread is for discussing recent bans. Don't discuss other topics here.

Take it to website feedback if you disagree with a ban or want to raise an issue.

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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
August 18 2017 13:00 GMT
#58641
On August 18 2017 15:24 Laurens wrote:
So was bardtown banned for having a "wrong worldview" according to bigfan or what?

The post that got him permed was literally a video and 2 links to UK news papers about a hot topic in UK politics currently.
Are we not allowed to discuss this topic on TL? Or can we only discuss it if we take the "correct side" in the debate?

You can discuss it widely if you take the correct side. You can even be flippant if your point is other people hate brown-skinned people or Muslims.

And please register your complaints in Website Feedback. They could definitely use some more response to the one-sided moderation standards. This case is a little less than perfect because (1) in the past he got baited into banworthy behavior and (2) very recently posted an obvious bait. And obviously, mods will default to "This is our house" when their banhammers troll and bait and provoke reactions, so it's helpful to remind them that it's noticed and can't be reported.

Summary (from a similar case):
In this case it's as though EZ got banned because he was being snide coupled with apparently being wrong. I think that suggests a significant ideological element. There are people dumping snark all over the thread which, the way I see it, aren't approached by moderation either because of where they are ideologically or get excused because of their significant posting history.
oBlade

Let me refine my point a little. If you tread softly and don't rustle people's jimmies, you can get away with having the wrong opinion on the topic. If you look at the behavior of people with the correct opinion and think that's generally permissible behavior, you're wrong. That's only conditionally permissible if you're arguing the correct viewpoint.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
TL+ Member
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18413 Posts
August 18 2017 13:47 GMT
#58642
On August 18 2017 22:00 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2017 15:24 Laurens wrote:
So was bardtown banned for having a "wrong worldview" according to bigfan or what?

The post that got him permed was literally a video and 2 links to UK news papers about a hot topic in UK politics currently.
Are we not allowed to discuss this topic on TL? Or can we only discuss it if we take the "correct side" in the debate?

You can discuss it widely if you take the correct side. You can even be flippant if your point is other people hate brown-skinned people or Muslims.

And please register your complaints in Website Feedback. They could definitely use some more response to the one-sided moderation standards. This case is a little less than perfect because (1) in the past he got baited into banworthy behavior and (2) very recently posted an obvious bait. And obviously, mods will default to "This is our house" when their banhammers troll and bait and provoke reactions, so it's helpful to remind them that it's noticed and can't be reported.

Summary (from a similar case):
Show nested quote +
In this case it's as though EZ got banned because he was being snide coupled with apparently being wrong. I think that suggests a significant ideological element. There are people dumping snark all over the thread which, the way I see it, aren't approached by moderation either because of where they are ideologically or get excused because of their significant posting history.
oBlade

Let me refine my point a little. If you tread softly and don't rustle people's jimmies, you can get away with having the wrong opinion on the topic. If you look at the behavior of people with the correct opinion and think that's generally permissible behavior, you're wrong. That's only conditionally permissible if you're arguing the correct viewpoint.

Surprisingly, TL only accepts a little bit of racism if you're not also incredibly obnoxious about it!
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 18 2017 16:28 GMT
#58643
To clarify, this was a requested perm. He wanted it and got it. He just wasn't enjoying himself. My comment was to tell him to keep an open mind and meet others considering how bad his posting has become regarding certain issues. To me, it felt like it was coming from a place of ignorance. Best of luck to him moving forward!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
August 19 2017 11:09 GMT
#58644
That does clarify a lot, cheers.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
August 26 2017 16:07 GMT
#58645
Seems to be a bit of a dick move. Posting what he posted and then requesting a ban. You are basically saying that you want to express yourself without hearing any rebuttals.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-26 19:10:26
August 26 2017 19:10 GMT
#58646
To also clarify that: He requested a perm while he was on a week ban so had to wait until the ban was up before he was perm'd. He just took the chance to post something before the ban took place.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
August 26 2017 19:18 GMT
#58647
So he wanted out, so might as well leave in style.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
August 28 2017 17:15 GMT
#58648
Yep, still a dick move. You call it style, I call it lack of maturity.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 28 2017 17:23 GMT
#58649
On August 29 2017 02:15 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Yep, still a dick move. You call it style, I call it lack of maturity.

Well, regardless of that, he's gone anyways. Let's just move on and leave it be.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
August 28 2017 19:38 GMT
#58650
What would be the point of this thread, then?
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
August 29 2017 13:28 GMT
#58651
God forbid we talk about bans in this thread. I propose we talk about birds instead.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37103 Posts
August 29 2017 13:33 GMT
#58652
On August 29 2017 22:28 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
God forbid we talk about bans in this thread. I propose we talk about birds instead.

You do and I'll ban you for derailing the thread. It's a vicious circle.
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Jubinell
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
333 Posts
August 29 2017 13:36 GMT
#58653
Sorry, I don't know if this is the appropriate place or not, but I have a friend and colleague who was banned by the bot for posting commercial content in the blog section. Is there a way to ask for an unban? She wasn't even aware of what the rules are for blog content. Thanks!
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18413 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-29 13:59:44
August 29 2017 13:39 GMT
#58654
On August 29 2017 04:38 AbouSV wrote:
What would be the point of this thread, then?

To make fun of WrathSC2 and get Seeker to derail the thread again.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44245 Posts
August 29 2017 13:45 GMT
#58655
On August 29 2017 22:36 Jubinell wrote:
Sorry, I don't know if this is the appropriate place or not, but I have a friend and colleague who was banned by the bot for posting commercial content in the blog section. Is there a way to ask for an unban? She wasn't even aware of what the rules are for blog content. Thanks!

Username?
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14000 Posts
August 29 2017 15:00 GMT
#58656
On August 29 2017 22:39 Acrofales wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2017 04:38 AbouSV wrote:
What would be the point of this thread, then?

To make fun of WrathSC2 and get Seeker to derail the thread again.

Wrath* he changed his view on BW remember?
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8096 Posts
August 29 2017 15:31 GMT
#58657
On August 29 2017 22:33 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2017 22:28 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
God forbid we talk about bans in this thread. I propose we talk about birds instead.

You do and I'll ban you for derailing the thread. It's a vicious circle.

Daily dose of irony received
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-29 16:07:06
August 29 2017 16:06 GMT
#58658
On August 29 2017 22:33 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2017 22:28 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
God forbid we talk about bans in this thread. I propose we talk about birds instead.

You do and I'll ban you for derailing the thread. It's a vicious circle.

I need clarification. Are you saying you'll b*n me for talking about b*ns or b*rds? See, thought you would be talking about b*rds since you wrote derailment, but then you wrote "it's a vicious circle" so now I am confused. Unless to talk about b*ns is a derailment, but that doesn't makes no sense at all, but then how does the circle fit in? I'm not mocking you, I am genuinely puzzled and I am doing my best to understand the terms you are setting out here. Or is this yet another TL mod injoke I don't understand?
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 29 2017 16:22 GMT
#58659
On August 30 2017 01:06 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2017 22:33 Seeker wrote:
On August 29 2017 22:28 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
God forbid we talk about bans in this thread. I propose we talk about birds instead.

You do and I'll ban you for derailing the thread. It's a vicious circle.

I need clarification. Are you saying you'll b*n me for talking about b*ns or b*rds? See, thought you would be talking about b*rds since you wrote derailment, but then you wrote "it's a vicious circle" so now I am confused. Unless to talk about b*ns is a derailment, but that doesn't makes no sense at all, but then how does the circle fit in? I'm not mocking you, I am genuinely puzzled and I am doing my best to understand the terms you are setting out here. Or is this yet another TL mod injoke I don't understand?

Or it's just seeker being seeker lol
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9642 Posts
August 29 2017 16:30 GMT
#58660
i find the less one needs to know about moderation policies the less one finds themselves needing to know the moderation policies

correlation or causation
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