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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24768 Posts
October 10 2016 19:02 GMT
#56221
Take it to website feedback if you think more moderation is needed.
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
October 10 2016 19:17 GMT
#56222
where controversial issues go to die.....
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43902 Posts
October 10 2016 19:17 GMT
#56223
On October 11 2016 03:40 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2016 03:28 micronesia wrote:
It's not okay to call someone an overgrown twat on tl, but it was instigated by another so the ban was shortened.

but its cool to call people "pretty fucking stupid?" i dont really get the distinction.

For the record what I said was that I thought his ignorance of British politics was leading him to say things that sounded stupid because he didn't know how stupid they sounded.
I know it's not your country so you don't know how stupid you sound when you imply otherwise but you sound pretty fucking stupid.

I didn't ban him but if we're going to discuss who said what then we should at least get it right. I said his lack of understanding of the subject was understandable because it's British politics and he's an American but when he made proclamation about the subject based on that lack of understanding he sounded pretty fucking stupid.

Maybe you think that's too far, whatever. But I said his ignorance made him sound stupid, I didn't say he was stupid.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-10 19:22:15
October 10 2016 19:20 GMT
#56224
On October 11 2016 04:17 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2016 03:40 dAPhREAk wrote:
On October 11 2016 03:28 micronesia wrote:
It's not okay to call someone an overgrown twat on tl, but it was instigated by another so the ban was shortened.

but its cool to call people "pretty fucking stupid?" i dont really get the distinction.

For the record what I said was that I thought his ignorance of British politics was leading him to say things that sounded stupid because he didn't know how stupid they sounded.
Show nested quote +
I know it's not your country so you don't know how stupid you sound when you imply otherwise but you sound pretty fucking stupid.

I didn't ban him but if we're going to discuss who said what then we should at least get it right. I said his lack of understanding of the subject was understandable because it's British politics and he's an American but when he made proclamation about the subject based on that lack of understanding he sounded pretty fucking stupid.

Maybe you think that's too far, whatever. But I said his ignorance made him sound stupid, I didn't say he was stupid.

so, i guess it would be cool if he had said you "sound like an" overgrown twat? you resorted to name calling, he responded in kind, he got banned. lets call a spade a spade.

edit: then, apparently, the ban got reduced, because someone realized (i am assuming) that it looks bad when a moderator starts the slap fight and gets no slap on the wrist.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18856 Posts
October 10 2016 19:21 GMT
#56225
sometimes spades are clubs, silly.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5188 Posts
October 11 2016 02:44 GMT
#56226
On October 11 2016 04:21 farvacola wrote:
sometimes spades are clubs, silly.

I agree,

Sometimes you just have to knock the crap out of someone using a metal shovel, since you left your nice club at home.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
October 11 2016 03:13 GMT
#56227
On October 11 2016 11:44 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2016 04:21 farvacola wrote:
sometimes spades are clubs, silly.

I agree,

Sometimes you just have to knock the crap out of someone using a metal shovel, since you left your nice club at home.

Just watch zombie movies. Spades being clubs all the time. I got a bit more problem imagining a club being a spade though.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13994 Posts
October 11 2016 11:15 GMT
#56228
On October 11 2016 12:13 Cascade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2016 11:44 Shapelog wrote:
On October 11 2016 04:21 farvacola wrote:
sometimes spades are clubs, silly.

I agree,

Sometimes you just have to knock the crap out of someone using a metal shovel, since you left your nice club at home.

Just watch zombie movies. Spades being clubs all the time. I got a bit more problem imagining a club being a spade though.

Personally I prefer hearts
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9639 Posts
October 11 2016 13:01 GMT
#56229
On October 11 2016 04:20 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2016 04:17 KwarK wrote:
On October 11 2016 03:40 dAPhREAk wrote:
On October 11 2016 03:28 micronesia wrote:
It's not okay to call someone an overgrown twat on tl, but it was instigated by another so the ban was shortened.

but its cool to call people "pretty fucking stupid?" i dont really get the distinction.

For the record what I said was that I thought his ignorance of British politics was leading him to say things that sounded stupid because he didn't know how stupid they sounded.
I know it's not your country so you don't know how stupid you sound when you imply otherwise but you sound pretty fucking stupid.

I didn't ban him but if we're going to discuss who said what then we should at least get it right. I said his lack of understanding of the subject was understandable because it's British politics and he's an American but when he made proclamation about the subject based on that lack of understanding he sounded pretty fucking stupid.

Maybe you think that's too far, whatever. But I said his ignorance made him sound stupid, I didn't say he was stupid.

so, i guess it would be cool if he had said you "sound like an" overgrown twat? you resorted to name calling, he responded in kind, he got banned. lets call a spade a spade.

edit: then, apparently, the ban got reduced, because someone realized (i am assuming) that it looks bad when a moderator starts the slap fight and gets no slap on the wrist.


if you are calling out spades, you're falsely equating stupid and twat. to claim there is no difference is either ignorant or purposefully obtuse.
dNa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany591 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-11 14:19:20
October 11 2016 14:18 GMT
#56230
On October 11 2016 22:01 brian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2016 04:20 dAPhREAk wrote:
On October 11 2016 04:17 KwarK wrote:
On October 11 2016 03:40 dAPhREAk wrote:
On October 11 2016 03:28 micronesia wrote:
It's not okay to call someone an overgrown twat on tl, but it was instigated by another so the ban was shortened.

but its cool to call people "pretty fucking stupid?" i dont really get the distinction.

For the record what I said was that I thought his ignorance of British politics was leading him to say things that sounded stupid because he didn't know how stupid they sounded.
I know it's not your country so you don't know how stupid you sound when you imply otherwise but you sound pretty fucking stupid.

I didn't ban him but if we're going to discuss who said what then we should at least get it right. I said his lack of understanding of the subject was understandable because it's British politics and he's an American but when he made proclamation about the subject based on that lack of understanding he sounded pretty fucking stupid.

Maybe you think that's too far, whatever. But I said his ignorance made him sound stupid, I didn't say he was stupid.

so, i guess it would be cool if he had said you "sound like an" overgrown twat? you resorted to name calling, he responded in kind, he got banned. lets call a spade a spade.

edit: then, apparently, the ban got reduced, because someone realized (i am assuming) that it looks bad when a moderator starts the slap fight and gets no slap on the wrist.


if you are calling out spades, you're falsely equating stupid and twat. to claim there is no difference is either ignorant or purposefully obtuse.



Also, there's a difference between telling someone he "sounds/acts like a twat" and that "he is a twat"... everyone acts twatty sometimes, but calling someone a twat removes that temporary aspect and just leaves you with a personal insult.

for comparison:
"you're being an overgrown twat right now."
"you're an overgrown twat."

There's a vast difference. The first one can be seen as (albeit not very constructive) criticism, because it implies that if the addressee changes their current behaviour, it will result in a reduction of their twat-factor. The 2nd however does not imply that. :D
"a pitchfork is for hay. a trident is for killing bitches." -djwheat
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
October 11 2016 17:22 GMT
#56231
On October 11 2016 22:01 brian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2016 04:20 dAPhREAk wrote:
On October 11 2016 04:17 KwarK wrote:
On October 11 2016 03:40 dAPhREAk wrote:
On October 11 2016 03:28 micronesia wrote:
It's not okay to call someone an overgrown twat on tl, but it was instigated by another so the ban was shortened.

but its cool to call people "pretty fucking stupid?" i dont really get the distinction.

For the record what I said was that I thought his ignorance of British politics was leading him to say things that sounded stupid because he didn't know how stupid they sounded.
I know it's not your country so you don't know how stupid you sound when you imply otherwise but you sound pretty fucking stupid.

I didn't ban him but if we're going to discuss who said what then we should at least get it right. I said his lack of understanding of the subject was understandable because it's British politics and he's an American but when he made proclamation about the subject based on that lack of understanding he sounded pretty fucking stupid.

Maybe you think that's too far, whatever. But I said his ignorance made him sound stupid, I didn't say he was stupid.

so, i guess it would be cool if he had said you "sound like an" overgrown twat? you resorted to name calling, he responded in kind, he got banned. lets call a spade a spade.

edit: then, apparently, the ban got reduced, because someone realized (i am assuming) that it looks bad when a moderator starts the slap fight and gets no slap on the wrist.


if you are calling out spades, you're falsely equating stupid and twat. to claim there is no difference is either ignorant or purposefully obtuse.

where did i claim there is no difference? i said "i dont really get the distinction" because both kwark and oblade were engaged in a slap fight, but one gets banned and the other attempts to rationalize what clearly was intended as an insult. they both should be criticized for shitting up the forum.

and, by the way, google defines twat (in addition to a woman's genital) as "a person regarded as stupid or obnoxious." although i dont think they are the same (one is clearly more vulgar), the personal attack is the same.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
October 11 2016 17:24 GMT
#56232
On October 11 2016 23:18 dNa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2016 22:01 brian wrote:
On October 11 2016 04:20 dAPhREAk wrote:
On October 11 2016 04:17 KwarK wrote:
On October 11 2016 03:40 dAPhREAk wrote:
On October 11 2016 03:28 micronesia wrote:
It's not okay to call someone an overgrown twat on tl, but it was instigated by another so the ban was shortened.

but its cool to call people "pretty fucking stupid?" i dont really get the distinction.

For the record what I said was that I thought his ignorance of British politics was leading him to say things that sounded stupid because he didn't know how stupid they sounded.
I know it's not your country so you don't know how stupid you sound when you imply otherwise but you sound pretty fucking stupid.

I didn't ban him but if we're going to discuss who said what then we should at least get it right. I said his lack of understanding of the subject was understandable because it's British politics and he's an American but when he made proclamation about the subject based on that lack of understanding he sounded pretty fucking stupid.

Maybe you think that's too far, whatever. But I said his ignorance made him sound stupid, I didn't say he was stupid.

so, i guess it would be cool if he had said you "sound like an" overgrown twat? you resorted to name calling, he responded in kind, he got banned. lets call a spade a spade.

edit: then, apparently, the ban got reduced, because someone realized (i am assuming) that it looks bad when a moderator starts the slap fight and gets no slap on the wrist.


if you are calling out spades, you're falsely equating stupid and twat. to claim there is no difference is either ignorant or purposefully obtuse.



Also, there's a difference between telling someone he "sounds/acts like a twat" and that "he is a twat"... everyone acts twatty sometimes, but calling someone a twat removes that temporary aspect and just leaves you with a personal insult.

for comparison:
"you're being an overgrown twat right now."
"you're an overgrown twat."

There's a vast difference. The first one can be seen as (albeit not very constructive) criticism, because it implies that if the addressee changes their current behaviour, it will result in a reduction of their twat-factor. The 2nd however does not imply that. :D

im sure if someone told you sound like a fucking idiot, you would see that as legitimate criticism. come on. wtf is with the attempt to rationalize really stupid forum behavior. are you guys really defending the ability of forum users to engage in discourse in this manner?
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-11 17:41:57
October 11 2016 17:32 GMT
#56233
Pedantics at its best.

Also a great example of why i dont want to be a part of this shoddily run website anymore. Can i have my perm ban now please? Ive asked like 4 fucking times. EDIT: Since it seems all my PMs go unanswered when i ask for something politely before i actually get it.

p.s. while im at it shoutouts to KBB and plexa, they're actually pretty cool. ETT can go fuck himself since he blatantly had it out for me when i was still active here and a massive thank you to that mod who went on a rampage in the lol subforum calling out everyones shit and got demodded / banned, what a legend.

If i finally get listened to & banned, Good bye!

User was banned for this post.
Useless wet fish.
AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
October 11 2016 17:44 GMT
#56234
On October 12 2016 02:32 Capped wrote:
Also a great example of why i dont want to be a part of this shoddily run website anymore.


I would have limited that to the politic threads.
Just as in real life actually.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13994 Posts
October 11 2016 18:18 GMT
#56235
On October 12 2016 02:32 Capped wrote:
Pedantics at its best.

Also a great example of why i dont want to be a part of this shoddily run website anymore. Can i have my perm ban now please? Ive asked like 4 fucking times. EDIT: Since it seems all my PMs go unanswered when i ask for something politely before i actually get it.

p.s. while im at it shoutouts to KBB and plexa, they're actually pretty cool. ETT can go fuck himself since he blatantly had it out for me when i was still active here and a massive thank you to that mod who went on a rampage in the lol subforum calling out everyones shit and got demodded / banned, what a legend.

If i finally get listened to & banned, Good bye!

User was banned for this post.

#bringbackcapped
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
October 11 2016 18:20 GMT
#56236
Against his will if we must.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 11 2016 18:21 GMT
#56237
now i'm curious what LiquidLegends mod went berserk?
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
October 11 2016 18:27 GMT
#56238
On October 12 2016 03:21 Sn0_Man wrote:
now i'm curious what LiquidLegends mod went berserk?


JBright?
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
October 11 2016 18:34 GMT
#56239
guess i missed it
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-11 18:36:19
October 11 2016 18:34 GMT
#56240
That happened awhile back. Not sure if something else happened. Jbright still has moderator under his name so must be someone else.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
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