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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
June 02 2015 21:14 GMT
#50521
On June 03 2015 05:29 KadaverBB wrote:
Oh come on nina, this is just something that had to be done, this is not about me being german (for once)


I wasn't implying you did it because you were German. I was just pointing out how incredibly German you are.
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KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
June 02 2015 21:16 GMT
#50522
I'll take it as a compliment, thanks :D
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
June 02 2015 21:20 GMT
#50523
On June 03 2015 05:49 opisska wrote:
Were there links to child porn, or is the sole act of discussing the existence of child pornography considered grounds for censorship now? If it's the latter than it's pretty stupid and the inability of people who wish to do so to speak openly about their needs actually harms the children.

won't somebody think of the children!!
opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
June 02 2015 21:25 GMT
#50524
I am sorry for trying to be serious in such a funny and generally pleasing thread, but I just wanted to point out that the stigmatization of pedophilia and the attitude of "that's the worst evil, don't even talk about it and get off the surface of the Earth" is the main reason why it is incredibly difficult for a pedophile to get the help he needs not to harm anyone. I understand that TL is not the internet hotline for nerds in psychiatric distress, but there were some pretty nice blogs where people got some needed support, because their issue happened not to be politically inacceptable.
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
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KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
June 02 2015 21:30 GMT
#50525
I don't disagree with you,but we have to be super careful with NSFW stuff from now on. Some "worthwhile" threads are unfortunately going to suffer, there is simply no way around it.
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
June 02 2015 21:34 GMT
#50526
On June 03 2015 06:20 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 05:49 opisska wrote:
Were there links to child porn, or is the sole act of discussing the existence of child pornography considered grounds for censorship now? If it's the latter than it's pretty stupid and the inability of people who wish to do so to speak openly about their needs actually harms the children.

won't somebody think of the children!!

I think thats the problem actually. Won't anyone think of the pedophiles!?!?
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
June 02 2015 21:53 GMT
#50527
On June 03 2015 06:25 opisska wrote:
I am sorry for trying to be serious in such a funny and generally pleasing thread, but I just wanted to point out that the stigmatization of pedophilia and the attitude of "that's the worst evil, don't even talk about it and get off the surface of the Earth" is the main reason why it is incredibly difficult for a pedophile to get the help he needs not to harm anyone. I understand that TL is not the internet hotline for nerds in psychiatric distress, but there were some pretty nice blogs where people got some needed support, because their issue happened not to be politically inacceptable.

I don't recall a single instance of this. I recall multiple instances of people posting about their pedophilic tendencies but not one instance of them getting support (or wanting that support).
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
June 02 2015 21:59 GMT
#50528
Chibi, if only everyone could forget
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
June 02 2015 22:04 GMT
#50529
On June 03 2015 06:25 opisska wrote:
I am sorry for trying to be serious in such a funny and generally pleasing thread, but I just wanted to point out that the stigmatization of pedophilia and the attitude of "that's the worst evil, don't even talk about it and get off the surface of the Earth" is the main reason why it is incredibly difficult for a pedophile to get the help he needs not to harm anyone. I understand that TL is not the internet hotline for nerds in psychiatric distress, but there were some pretty nice blogs where people got some needed support, because their issue happened not to be politically inacceptable.

cracked wrote an interesting article about this recently.

http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-1658-5-ways-were-making-pedophilia-worse.html
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
June 02 2015 22:49 GMT
#50530
On June 03 2015 06:34 Jaaaaasper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 06:20 dAPhREAk wrote:
On June 03 2015 05:49 opisska wrote:
Were there links to child porn, or is the sole act of discussing the existence of child pornography considered grounds for censorship now? If it's the latter than it's pretty stupid and the inability of people who wish to do so to speak openly about their needs actually harms the children.

won't somebody think of the children!!

I think thats the problem actually. Won't anyone think of the pedophiles!?!?


When I think of them, I become angry.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-03 01:27:28
June 03 2015 01:26 GMT
#50531
On June 03 2015 06:30 KadaverBB wrote:
I don't disagree with you,but we have to be super careful with NSFW stuff from now on. Some "worthwhile" threads are unfortunately going to suffer, there is simply no way around it.

What type of NSFW, because that thread seemed to be a super super outlier O_o like how many times has TL gotten warnings from google that you need to delete a thread or remove the content.

NSFW is already pretty heavy moderated theres no like "whos ur favourite swimsuit model, post pics please" threads or graphic accident images from some news events at most theres a link directing you to another site that show the images, what type of nsfw do we have to be super careful about cause i didnt think fluffy or yoko were NSFW more like trolly/annoying, or am i wrong they are considered NSFW.

I can see how dogsex, airplane masturbation is nsfw (but that was from quite a while ago) and i havnt seen many threads like it recently, whats an example of nsfw content that wasnt already being moderated that now has to be more closely watched
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
June 03 2015 01:34 GMT
#50532
On June 03 2015 10:26 Shock710 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 06:30 KadaverBB wrote:
I don't disagree with you,but we have to be super careful with NSFW stuff from now on. Some "worthwhile" threads are unfortunately going to suffer, there is simply no way around it.

What type of NSFW, because that thread seemed to be a super super outlier O_o like how many times has TL gotten warnings from google that you need to delete a thread or remove the content.

NSFW is already pretty heavy moderated theres no like "whos ur favourite swimsuit model, post pics please" threads or graphic accident images from some news events at most theres a link directing you to another site that show the images, what type of nsfw do we have to be super careful about cause i didnt think fluffy or yoko were NSFW more like trolly/annoying, or am i wrong they are considered NSFW.

I can see how dogsex, airplane masturbation is nsfw (but that was from quite a while ago) and i havnt seen many threads like it recently, whats an example of nsfw content that wasnt already being moderated that now has to be more closely watched

I might be mistaken, but that post was about the pron post that got removed, not fluffy/yoko.
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Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-03 01:52:39
June 03 2015 01:50 GMT
#50533
On June 03 2015 10:34 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 10:26 Shock710 wrote:
On June 03 2015 06:30 KadaverBB wrote:
I don't disagree with you,but we have to be super careful with NSFW stuff from now on. Some "worthwhile" threads are unfortunately going to suffer, there is simply no way around it.

What type of NSFW, because that thread seemed to be a super super outlier O_o like how many times has TL gotten warnings from google that you need to delete a thread or remove the content.

NSFW is already pretty heavy moderated theres no like "whos ur favourite swimsuit model, post pics please" threads or graphic accident images from some news events at most theres a link directing you to another site that show the images, what type of nsfw do we have to be super careful about cause i didnt think fluffy or yoko were NSFW more like trolly/annoying, or am i wrong they are considered NSFW.

I can see how dogsex, airplane masturbation is nsfw (but that was from quite a while ago) and i havnt seen many threads like it recently, whats an example of nsfw content that wasnt already being moderated that now has to be more closely watched

I might be mistaken, but that post was about the pron post that got removed, not fluffy/yoko.

yeah i know, but im just saying what on TL that is nsfw but wasnt moderated before but now has to be.
I was using fluffy as an example of something i dont believe is nsfw but could it possibly also be included in the new "super careful with NSFW stuff from now on"

because i dont disagree with the removal of that thread,
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
June 03 2015 01:54 GMT
#50534
Does this mean the Kpop thread will finally be put out of its suffering?
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
June 03 2015 02:20 GMT
#50535
On June 03 2015 10:50 Shock710 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2015 10:34 The_Templar wrote:
On June 03 2015 10:26 Shock710 wrote:
On June 03 2015 06:30 KadaverBB wrote:
I don't disagree with you,but we have to be super careful with NSFW stuff from now on. Some "worthwhile" threads are unfortunately going to suffer, there is simply no way around it.

What type of NSFW, because that thread seemed to be a super super outlier O_o like how many times has TL gotten warnings from google that you need to delete a thread or remove the content.

NSFW is already pretty heavy moderated theres no like "whos ur favourite swimsuit model, post pics please" threads or graphic accident images from some news events at most theres a link directing you to another site that show the images, what type of nsfw do we have to be super careful about cause i didnt think fluffy or yoko were NSFW more like trolly/annoying, or am i wrong they are considered NSFW.

I can see how dogsex, airplane masturbation is nsfw (but that was from quite a while ago) and i havnt seen many threads like it recently, whats an example of nsfw content that wasnt already being moderated that now has to be more closely watched

I might be mistaken, but that post was about the pron post that got removed, not fluffy/yoko.

yeah i know, but im just saying what on TL that is nsfw but wasnt moderated before but now has to be.
I was using fluffy as an example of something i dont believe is nsfw but could it possibly also be included in the new "super careful with NSFW stuff from now on"

because i dont disagree with the removal of that thread,

Fluffy wasn't removed for NSFW policy. No one needs to freak out about anything, things will continue on as they always have. If there is stuff which we need to remove we'll remove it. If the poster who posts the content is doing so innocently then they won't be actioned (generally) rather advised that that content is stuff we can't permit on TL anymore. If the poster is posting this content maliciously or with intent to break the rules then that'll get actioned. But for 99%+ of users nothing is going to change and they won't even be aware that this is going on.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
June 03 2015 02:21 GMT
#50536
On June 03 2015 10:54 Jaaaaasper wrote:
Does this mean the Kpop thread will finally be put out of its suffering?

No. Worst case scenario users actioned/posts deleted, but they thread won't be destroyed.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18856 Posts
June 03 2015 02:21 GMT
#50537
On June 01 2015 23:20 QuanticHawk wrote:
ponera was genuinely one of the biggest losers ever to grace this site - that syas a lot!

Truer words were never spoken.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50790 Posts
June 03 2015 02:24 GMT
#50538
On June 03 2015 11:21 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2015 23:20 QuanticHawk wrote:
ponera was genuinely one of the biggest losers ever to grace this site - that syas a lot!

Truer words were never spoken.

he hangs around r/dota2 now.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
June 03 2015 08:34 GMT
#50539
i always thought day9 censored his airplane post himself, when he became very popular
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-03 09:42:14
June 03 2015 09:39 GMT
#50540
On June 03 2015 06:25 opisska wrote:
I am sorry for trying to be serious in such a funny and generally pleasing thread, but I just wanted to point out that the stigmatization of pedophilia and the attitude of "that's the worst evil, don't even talk about it and get off the surface of the Earth" is the main reason why it is incredibly difficult for a pedophile to get the help he needs not to harm anyone. I understand that TL is not the internet hotline for nerds in psychiatric distress, but there were some pretty nice blogs where people got some needed support, because their issue happened not to be politically inacceptable.

I couldn't agree more. Something I feel quite strongly about actually.

edit: as a general thing that is, not specifically in relation to TL policy :p
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