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BreakfastBurrito
United States893 Posts
As for the ad, gotta do what you gotta do. small price to pay for all of the content and community we get. | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51449 Posts
On October 02 2015 12:45 Doodsmack wrote: I'm glad you don't have to see Indian and Muslim girls anymore, because like you say, they are definitely not nice to look at. super appropriate bro. | ||
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Ja.Y.
United States253 Posts
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fezvez
France3021 Posts
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Cam Connor
Canada786 Posts
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Rimstalker
Germany734 Posts
On October 02 2015 03:26 tritonice wrote: I turned ad block off for years. However, the pervasiveness of "meet an Asian hottie" ads required me to turn that on. I don't surf ANYWHERE where an SEO is going to pick that up. I will try to turn off Adblock again to support TL, but please refrain from such advertisers. to at least a certain degree, team liquid ad inventory is actually sold on the open market, in real time, where pretty much anyone can bid on it to display an ad, so not displaying certain kinds of ads (unless they are violating certain rules) is not always an option. 55% of users using adblock is extreme. | ||
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DJNana
South Africa20 Posts
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exog
Norway279 Posts
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
In the BW days, there were no ads, and from what I remember, the number of users on TL at once hasn't changed much. The features offered seem more or less the same from what was in the past (minus liquipedia and bigger TL team), but I was under the impression that all, or at least most liquipedia positions were unpaid, and I wouldn't expect the forum website to be covering the cost of operation of the team, rather the sponsors like Razer would. So that's the missing gap for me, it's not like the cost of servers magically increased 10 fold. So while I have nothing against TL being a business, and when there's opportunity to make money in relatively innocent ways, to make that money... But I don't see why it's something that's necessary when it wasn't necessary in the past. Not trying to start some big debate, just sharing my thoughts, I still have respect (if that's the right term here), for the people who white list TL, I just prefer the cleaner experience since it's something that I don't feel is a necessity for the site to survive (due to my point above). edit: Also not exactly fair giving examples of the most ad-filled gaming websites, versus common ones like reddit, steam forums, playdota.com, dotadev, dotafire, dotabuff... Actually I just went through like the first 8 links with a google search "dota 2 forums", and all the websites had less ads than TL, so it's kind of misleading. Like sure, there's less ads than on sketchy porn and news sites, but certainly, when comparing gaming communities, TL is above the curve in terms of number of ads (or at the very least on the curve), so playing the "hasn't accepted the industry standard" card is kind of a low blow. | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
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Hularuns
United Kingdom37 Posts
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On October 02 2015 16:30 FiWiFaKi wrote: Actually, in the BW days we had the standard two ads (the banner add, add below right sidebar) AND we used to have an ad below the first post in every thread for users who weren't logged in. TL has always been supported by advertising. Unfortunately I can't show you this using the internet archive because the ads don't load there, but perhaps someone has a screenshot lying around.Glad that you gave a heads up, but I will continue to use adblock (though I have purchased TL+ in the past), for the following reason: In the BW days, there were no ads, and from what I remember, the number of users on TL at once hasn't changed much. The features offered seem more or less the same from what was in the past (minus liquipedia and bigger TL team), but I was under the impression that all, or at least most liquipedia positions were unpaid, and I wouldn't expect the forum website to be covering the cost of operation of the team, rather the sponsors like Razer would. So that's the missing gap for me, it's not like the cost of servers magically increased 10 fold. So while I have nothing against TL being a business, and when there's opportunity to make money in relatively innocent ways, to make that money... But I don't see why it's something that's necessary when it wasn't necessary in the past. | ||
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Creager
Germany1962 Posts
On October 02 2015 02:59 BLinD-RawR wrote: I have adblock off on TL even though I have TL+ fony! | ||
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HaRuHi
1220 Posts
Yeah there is TL+, yes you got a shop, but you already provide an awesome place in the internet, and you wouldn't force anyone to use such button, but maybe some would prefer to give back in that manner? Maybe be completely irrelephant Yearly TL-Kickstarter to keep the site free, with awesome ingame portrait from Blizz as reward like for BTTV's it's aboot time? | ||
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ThunderBum
Australia192 Posts
I won't pay for TL if I don't have to. I would if I needed to for strategy guides, liquipedia, or tournament previews / threads though. There are charities lining up at my door who are more deserving of my money than a starcraft website, so if I'm going to be selfish and spend money for my own satisfaction why would I give it to you when I can already get it for free? Why wouldn't I buy a better PC, or buy better stuff for my kids, or get a newer car? Extreme examples, but if I gave $20 to every single entity that offered me convenience I'd be so damn broke I'd not be on the internet to complain about it. Why not host ads on behalf of your sponsors and have them built into the website? I've never understood why the reliance on a third party to provide the ads when surely you can expect a greater investment from your sponsors when their products / services are guaranteed to be viewed by every person using the site. Hard-code them to the site and ask for more. | ||
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Cam Connor
Canada786 Posts
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R1CH
Netherlands10342 Posts
On October 02 2015 09:24 sagi wrote: Do you get money from ads displayed or just clicks? I don't mind having adblock disabled for sites like this, but is it for nothing as I've never clicked an ad and I'm quite sure I never will. Most networks pay per view so even if you don't click it still helps. | ||
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
On October 02 2015 22:09 R1CH wrote: Most networks pay per view so even if you don't click it still helps. speaking of which, is there a way to disable flash ads? those freeze my pc and my laptop up. Normal banners are fine for me | ||
Heyoka
Katowice25012 Posts
On October 02 2015 20:21 ThunderBum wrote: Why not host ads on behalf of your sponsors and have them built into the website? I've never understood why the reliance on a third party to provide the ads when surely you can expect a greater investment from your sponsors when their products / services are guaranteed to be viewed by every person using the site. Hard-code them to the site and ask for more. Because logistically it's more complex than just showing a picture. People doing advertising target certain locations so it only shows up based on region, want to track themselves how many times it is viewed (as opposed to relying on us telling them), and know when it is clicked and under what condition. These things aren't possible with hard coding. You do occasionally see this on twitch streams now because those issues don't apply in content shown on streams. | ||
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shid0x
Korea (South)5014 Posts
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