SK Telecom T1 need little introduction. They are the New York Yankees, the Real Madrid, the Los Angeles Lakers of esports. For over a decade, they have been the golden standard to which all other teams in professional gaming aspire to. They have won dozens of championships, been home to some of the most popular progamers in the world, and played a crucial role in making esports what it is today.
So when SKT send you an email that says 'would you be interested in partnering with us on a project?' you check your Inception token to make sure you are not dreaming. For TeamLiquid, it is a great honor and privilege to offer the T1 team jersey for the first time to fans around the world. For T1 fans like me, this is a moment we've been waiting on for years.
But even to fans you who have no particular allegiance to SK Telecom, this day marks an important milestone for all of us as a community. We're no longer a small group fanatics across the ocean, so isolated that we even called ourselves 'foreign.' By reaching out to the international scene, SK Telecom T1 has shown they recognize the importance of their fans around the world. Korean players, coaches, and industry insiders have all expressed how impressed they were with the fans at international tournaments. Now, they've made an important step toward making us a part of their future.
We only have 750 shirts and we won't be producing any more of this specific model. So the chance for you to own one of these is lower than the chance to own a Ferrari F40. I want to thank SK Telecom T1 for being so cooperative and great to work with. I hope this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship, and that we might work to bring the fans even more great products.
International Shipping has been as always a tricky situation. Because the limited stock and how valuable the shirts are we decided to go for the most reliable shipping option we have on our hands. That's why all international orders from the NA Store will be shipped with Fedex International which is incredibly fast, reliable and includes a detailed tracking. Fedex is not cheap but we absolutely cannot risk using USPS in this case and if we were to do that we were not in a position to guarantee the delivery of your order. We did the same with our hoodies and I believe this is the best way to do this.
Also, because of the limited stock we have to change our story policy for that specific product - we do not offer size exchanges ! Make sure you get the right size because we won't be able to replace your shirt should you pick a shirt that doesn't fit you. We will still accept returns as we normally do for a full refund.
Finally the maximum number of shirts per order is limited to 2 so people can't buy a bunch in order to resell for a profit and further speculate with the price.
About that Price
We understand that a lot of you aren't going to be happy with the price. The shirt is by no means cheap, and I don't intend to argue with you about its value. However, I do think we owe you an explaination for the price.
As we started hashing out the details with SK Telecom several months ago, it became apparent that the team uniform would be expensive for two major reasons.
Production costs: This shirt is manufactured by the same Nike supplier that makes the official uniforms SKT players wear in the booth. I can't reveal the exact number, but I will say that it's a high quality product that has a production cost similar to the TL hoodie (sold for around 55$ on our store). The reason why the product we are selling in the store doesn't have a Nike logo is because SKT and Nike were not able to reach a licensing agreement. Other than that, the product we are offering is the exact same quality and model as the official uniform.
Import taxes and Shipping: Unlike other TL store products which are produced by our partners in North America and Europe, the SK Telecom T1 uniforms were produced in Korea. We had to pay to ship them to our distribution facilities in NA and EU, on top of which we had to pay import taxes. Just for the 375 shirts in Europe we paid 4000 GBP in taxes and shipping, which added 11-12€ per shirt. And of course, there's the additional 20% VAT for Europe.
These shirts are not great business for us. A TeamLiquid product that had the exact same costs and conditions would have been scrapped before making it to the store. Yet, having the SKT shirts on our store and making them available to the fans around the world is a dream for us, and we just couldn't decline when SKT came knocking. Also, we think that opening our doors in this way could be an important step toward offering more merchandise from Korean teams in the future.
Okay, so I lied about not selling you on the value. Even considering the high prices, I hope that some of you might see this opportunity for what it is: a rare chance to get the uniform of one of the greatest progaming teams of all time.
So stoked that I was able to get one, thank you so much TL, Disciple and SKT!
I hope SKT will see the opportunity here, and continue working with TL to produce more merchandise, hopefully letting you guys make it yourselves to keep costs down. I really hope other Korean teams take note as well. This could be the start of something fantastic.
Can't wait to wear this to Anaheim! Super stoked about the potential of an SKT/TL partnership with merch. Would kill for one of those sweaters like PartinG always wears.
Was like "o sick! Id totally wear one of those!" look at the price... w t f. $70 for a polo shirt? Does it come with FAKER DNA/Sweat/Blood ? w t f. What is the markup on this? like 500% ?
On March 04 2014 04:58 DinoMight wrote: Just ordered mine. Price is a little steep but honestly something like a Nike golf polo is around $70. And this is soooo much cooler.
On March 04 2014 04:56 MaestroSC wrote: Was like "o sick! Id totally wear one of those!" look at the price... w t f. $70 for a polo shirt? Does it come with FAKER DNA/Sweat/Blood ? w t f. What is the markup on this? like 500% ?
On March 04 2014 04:56 MaestroSC wrote: Was like "o sick! Id totally wear one of those!" look at the price... w t f. $70 for a polo shirt? Does it come with FAKER DNA/Sweat/Blood ? w t f. What is the markup on this? like 500% ?
Pressure is on you to see if you can work out a deal with those crewnecks that they wear almost every day ; like the ones in their promotional videos for the shirt.
Idk, the football shirts i buy are in that region and they look cool and feature high tech fabric, which makes it possible to actually use them for sports and later for dirty work. Also they are made to fit lets say athletic body types. (mostly Adidas shirts i own)
Imo the price for a uni color cotton polo is a (bit) edit:really steep. If only it would feature a cooler design.
Also the size chart is kinda lacking. For that money it would be awesome to know the other dimensions of the shirt like length and neck width.
Keep in mind that this is a very limited edition thing. It's not like buying an FCB shirt because those come in essentially unlimited supply - these may never be sold again once stock runs out. That certainly influences the value, at least it would for me.
I so wanted a SlayerS jacket and team jersey in the past. I wonder if it will be possible if TL store expand in the futur to sell kespa / korean pro team stuff?
On March 04 2014 04:56 MaestroSC wrote: Was like "o sick! Id totally wear one of those!" look at the price... w t f. $70 for a polo shirt? Does it come with FAKER DNA/Sweat/Blood ? w t f. What is the markup on this? like 500% ?
Did you even read the OP ? If not, yes it come with Faker and Bisu DNA.
OMG this is awesome.. Still a bit poor though ATM.. Will wait for a bit, so hopefully it's not limited sail there
Also - where to order from if living in Europe ?
EDIT: OK, because of the VAT% now I know it's probably shipped from the UK.. The problem now I have is - to buy that thing will cost me about 100EU, lol.. Even questioning if even possible
But yah - almost forgot - gratz Liquid Store, very cool idea, and hopefully you guys become even more awesome in future
EDIT Again: Why do the VoDs show that the shirt was from March 2013 (written in the title) ?
On March 04 2014 05:13 ogsgodlike wrote: Never seen anyone in SKT wearing that not even in the commercials up in this thread...lol
Happy Birthday !
Its the same shirt SKT won worlds with in November I think was it
I'm not surprised there are relatively few images of the players wearing it - during the winter their players always have a pullover or jacket on top.
In that picture it's an actual Nike shirt - other things are not the same/correct either, in this TL store it's obviously something significantly cheaper...
Why can't we get the real deal rather than some random knockoff?
On March 04 2014 05:13 ogsgodlike wrote: Never seen anyone in SKT wearing that not even in the commercials up in this thread...lol
Happy Birthday !
Its the same shirt SKT won worlds with in November I think was it
I'm not surprised there are relatively few images of the players wearing it - during the winter their players always have a pullover or jacket on top.
In that picture it's an actual Nike shirt - other things are not the same/correct either, in this TL store it's obviously something significantly cheaper...
Why can't we get the real deal rather than some random knockoff?
Sorry if I am too negative.
This question has been answered at least a dozen times already, please read the OP.
On March 04 2014 05:13 ogsgodlike wrote: Never seen anyone in SKT wearing that not even in the commercials up in this thread...lol
Happy Birthday !
Its the same shirt SKT won worlds with in November I think was it
I'm not surprised there are relatively few images of the players wearing it - during the winter their players always have a pullover or jacket on top.
In that picture it's an actual Nike shirt - other things are not the same/correct either, in this TL store it's obviously something significantly cheaper...
Why can't we get the real deal rather than some random knockoff?
On March 04 2014 08:41 Detri wrote: order placed, if you think it's too steep - you are cheap.
no you aren't, it is pretty expensive
but fuck if I didn't order one, it's an actual skt1 team shirt.
Money going to the team that has provided countless hours of entertainment for me?
Supporting eSports?
Get awesome shirt?
I hope this initiative works out and more teams follow suit. I have been looking to get my hands on proleague jerseys for a fucking age. I really don't think £55 is too much
On March 04 2014 08:15 ShiKatsuie wrote: There is no next batch.
And is it gonna have the "SOLD OUT" tag after all orders are processed? < So I can rub it into all my friends faces, I mean.
Or whatever T1 Merch is next. Gahd if only shipping wasn't so expensive here. Also, that shirt is worth 3000 in our currency, enough to allow me to live for 2 weeks back in college and almost 3 weeks now with work.
<h2>About that Price</h2> We understand that a lot of you aren't going to be happy with the price. The shirt is by no means cheap, and I don't intend to argue with you about its value. However, I do think we owe you an explaination for the price.
As we started hashing out the details with SK Telecom several months ago, it became apparent that the team uniform would be expensive for two major reasons.
Production costs: This shirt is manufactured by the same Nike supplier that makes the official uniforms SKT players wear in the booth. I can't reveal the exact number, but I will say that it's a high quality product that has a production cost similar to the TL hoodie (sold for around 55$ on our store). The reason why the product we are selling in the store doesn't have a Nike logo is because SKT and Nike were not able to reach a licensing agreement. Other than that, the product we are offering is the exact same quality and model as the official uniform.
Import taxes and Shipping: Unlike other TL store products which are produced by our partners in North America and Europe, the SK Telecom T1 uniforms were produced in Korea. We had to pay to ship them to our distribution facilities in NA and EU, on top of which we had to pay import taxes. Just for the 375 shirts in Europe we paid 4000 GBP in taxes and shipping, which added 11-12€ per shirt. And of course, there's the additional 20% VAT for Europe.
These shirts are not great business for us. A TeamLiquid product that had the exact same costs and conditions would have been scrapped before making it to the store. Yet, having the SKT shirts on our store and making them available to the fans around the world is a dream for us, and we just couldn't decline when SKT came knocking. Also, we think that opening our doors in this way could be an important step toward offering more merchandise from Korean teams in the future.
So 8000+1600+10*750= £17,100. Let's say each shirt costs £5 to make (lol of course no factory charges that amount for a polo shirt - check alibaba to see what I mean) so that's £20,850 = $34,750. (NB - American imports are much cheaper - funny that you didn't mention those numbers - so this is a big overestimate. I doubt total costs were more than $25k given how much more inexpensive US tends to be). I don't think it's that unethical to charge ~100% mark up and yeah you split the money with SKT1 and yeah it's nothing compared to high end fashion. However, to claim you aren't make a good deal of money and you're selling these out of the goodness of your heart seems a bit unfair. Sorry to be negative but I hate seeing people wilfully misled.
We understand that a lot of you aren't going to be happy with the price. The shirt is by no means cheap, and I don't intend to argue with you about its value. However, I do think we owe you an explaination for the price.
As we started hashing out the details with SK Telecom several months ago, it became apparent that the team uniform would be expensive for two major reasons.
Production costs: This shirt is manufactured by the same Nike supplier that makes the official uniforms SKT players wear in the booth. I can't reveal the exact number, but I will say that it's a high quality product that has a production cost similar to the TL hoodie (sold for around 55$ on our store). The reason why the product we are selling in the store doesn't have a Nike logo is because SKT and Nike were not able to reach a licensing agreement. Other than that, the product we are offering is the exact same quality and model as the official uniform.
Import taxes and Shipping: Unlike other TL store products which are produced by our partners in North America and Europe, the SK Telecom T1 uniforms were produced in Korea. We had to pay to ship them to our distribution facilities in NA and EU, on top of which we had to pay import taxes. Just for the 375 shirts in Europe we paid 4000 GBP in taxes and shipping, which added 11-12€ per shirt. And of course, there's the additional 20% VAT for Europe.
These shirts are not great business for us. A TeamLiquid product that had the exact same costs and conditions would have been scrapped before making it to the store. Yet, having the SKT shirts on our store and making them available to the fans around the world is a dream for us, and we just couldn't decline when SKT came knocking. Also, we think that opening our doors in this way could be an important step toward offering more merchandise from Korean teams in the future.
So 8000+1600+10*750= £17,100. Let's say each shirt costs £5 to make (lol of course no factory charges that amount for a polo shirt - check alibaba to see what I mean) so that's £20,850 = $34,750. (NB - American imports are much cheaper - funny that you didn't mention those numbers - so this is a big overestimate. I doubt total costs were more than $25k given how much more inexpensive US tends to be). I don't think it's that unethical to charge ~100% mark up and yeah you split the money with SKT1 and yeah it's nothing compared to high end fashion. However, to claim you aren't make a good deal of money and you're selling these out of the goodness of your heart seems a bit unfair. Sorry to be negative but I hate seeing people wilfully misled.
If taxes and shipping per shirt is ~£11, it's likely that the shirts were sold to TL for around £30. Import taxes depend on the price that the manufacturer gives. Plus VAT for EU. Whether TL paid a fair price for the shirts is irrelevant, because that's how much they were sold to TL.
On March 04 2014 08:41 Detri wrote: order placed, if you think it's too steep - you are cheap.
no you aren't, it is pretty expensive
but fuck if I didn't order one, it's an actual skt1 team shirt.
Exactly. Purchasing shouldn't be a judgment. This shirt is relatively expensive--if the rarity and the brand make it up to you, awesome. If they don't, you don't need to whine--just note that it is too expensive for you personally and move on. For me, I'd buy instantly if it was the Adidas track-type jersey. Unfortunately, I never wear any sort of polo.
why cant i be a millionaire yet... 65 dollars for the skt1 jersey is far too steep of a price for a university student like myself T____T parting y u no help lower price...
On March 04 2014 08:57 IAMPRO wrote: So 8000+1600+10*750= £17,100. Let's say each shirt costs £5 to make (lol of course no factory charges that amount for a polo shirt - check alibaba to see what I mean) so that's £20,850 = $34,750. (NB - American imports are much cheaper - funny that you didn't mention those numbers - so this is a big overestimate. I doubt total costs were more than $25k given how much more inexpensive US tends to be). I don't think it's that unethical to charge ~100% mark up and yeah you split the money with SKT1 and yeah it's nothing compared to high end fashion. However, to claim you aren't make a good deal of money and you're selling these out of the goodness of your heart seems a bit unfair. Sorry to be negative but I hate seeing people wilfully misled.
That £5 estimate is likely based on merchandise made in China / Bangladesh / Indonesia / etc and I doubt it includes quality embroidery and patches. Having the merchandise made in Korea (and thus not using sweatshops) and having it come from the same provider that SKT uses (so it's actually official SKT merchandise) makes the base price considerably higher. We are not misleading anyone, as we said, if this was anything but something from SKT we simply wouldn't bring it to market due to the costs.
On March 04 2014 08:57 IAMPRO wrote: So 8000+1600+10*750= £17,100. Let's say each shirt costs £5 to make (lol of course no factory charges that amount for a polo shirt - check alibaba to see what I mean) so that's £20,850 = $34,750. (NB - American imports are much cheaper - funny that you didn't mention those numbers - so this is a big overestimate. I doubt total costs were more than $25k given how much more inexpensive US tends to be). I don't think it's that unethical to charge ~100% mark up and yeah you split the money with SKT1 and yeah it's nothing compared to high end fashion. However, to claim you aren't make a good deal of money and you're selling these out of the goodness of your heart seems a bit unfair. Sorry to be negative but I hate seeing people wilfully misled.
That £5 estimate is likely based on merchandise made in China / Bangladesh / Indonesia / etc and I doubt it includes quality embroidery and patches. Having the merchandise made in Korea (and thus not using sweatshops) and having it come from the same provider that SKT uses (so it's actually official SKT merchandise) makes the base price considerably higher. We are not misleading anyone, as we said, if this was anything but something from SKT we simply wouldn't bring it to market due to the costs.
Quick question R1ch, is it wrote made in Korea in the jersey ?
I am going to med school so now I have no money Man I want one of these shirts so badly. Great that TL even has this offer, would have been sick to watch old bw games while wearing one of these.
Do these shirts fit true to size? I'm a size small according to the size chart but I'm not sure if I should size up just incase or just stick with a small....
On March 04 2014 12:06 endy wrote: Nothing is ever gonna beat Susie with the Adidas SKT shirt + Boxer autograph + Bunkie doll for 50$ including shipping, but that was exceptional.
Having SKT shirts on the TL store is a dream coming true. It's something that would have sounded impossible during the BW era. Mad props for that TL.
People complaining about the price need to realise that it's more of a collector's item then a polo shirt. I probably won't wear it a lot outside of StarCraft related events but I'm glad I have one of the few SKT1 uniform ever sold.
It's like having a Collector's edition, it's all about the rarity and supporting a cool team (even if SK Telecom is rolling in money).
On March 04 2014 17:26 Terranist wrote: too expensive but the sizing information makes them look comparable to children's sizes in USA. like really, what adult has an 18 inch width chest?
Many?... Do you not know how sizing works, or just not understand how big 18 inches is? It's not circumference, just width...
On March 04 2014 04:31 TidesOfDel wrote: So stoked that I was able to get one, thank you so much TL, Disciple and SKT!
I hope SKT will see the opportunity here, and continue working with TL to produce more merchandise, hopefully letting you guys make it yourselves to keep costs down. I really hope other Korean teams take note as well. This could be the start of something fantastic.
amen to that! i got mine^^, watch out piglet, op adc incomming ^_^
Sorry to say this, but with his economy this shirt is too expensive to be a simple pole, it is certain that this has been produced in Korea and this is the only way to get merchandising from there and perhaps eventhey are losing money with these sales but it's to expensive anyways I'd love to buy it, since I'm a big fan of SKT T1 even morethan Fnatic, which I can buy cheaper products ... so much feeling it I will not be able to buy this shirt, anyway good job TeamLiquid
Ordered one ! And with the TL protoss T-shirt on the way :D. It is expensive but hey, those items are not easy to find, even on my trip to Korea I couldn't find any nice sc2 marchendising. And this is the Bisu team's jersey, could'nt miss that !
On March 04 2014 18:21 Growiel wrote: Got me one of those.
People complaining about the price need to realise that it's more of a collector's item then a polo shirt. I probably won't wear it a lot outside of StarCraft related events but I'm glad I have one of the few SKT1 uniform ever sold.
It's like having a Collector's edition, it's all about the rarity and supporting a cool team (even if SK Telecom is rolling in money).
agreed, most polos you get are around that price regularly -.-
A polo that has sponsor's advertisements, that isn't worn by anyone on the team, that is made by a brand that sells them for 20$, and is priced 80$ Hahahaha.
Well like in any sport. You want the same clothes as the guys you are cheering for, you pay the same kind of price, with the sponsor's advertisments, that's the all point :D. Dont be like that and let the people enjoy themselves.
On March 05 2014 01:55 9-BiT wrote: A polo that has sponsor's advertisements, that isn't worn by anyone on the team, that is made by a brand that sells them for 20$, and is priced 80$ Hahahaha.
Getta KTRolster ones!!! About the prize: just you watch the shirts selling out in a breeze. Then, they can import bigger piles, resulting in lower prizes.
By the way, could you ask for the next deal with SKT, to insert all the sponsors patches, so that we can wear the closest model as the team wears in team leagues? Like the FC Barcelona shirt you know, maybe, SKT, Nike, and Pocari can fix that for the next edition.
EDIT : added a couple photos so you can see what i'm talking about. + Show Spoiler +
Something like this, with all sponsors patches on the arms as well.
On March 05 2014 05:40 Neo7 wrote: Aww man I just saw this and they're out of X-Large. Any hopes that this will be restock?
No restock, you have to order on EU Store, this will be the only batch, they said.
Does EU store ship to APO addresses? I have some family in Germany but they live in a military base though.
EDIT: family has an alternative address that can be accessed by all EU delivery companies which will work (although unsure if it doesn't answer this question well if anyone else in a similar situation).
On March 05 2014 12:06 higurahsi18 wrote: Well FML no small's available...........! To bad i was gonna buy some guess i'll spend my money somewhere else
Just for the record, they told us about the new uniforms after we signed the contract about selling this shirt, thats why we said we wont be getting more from that model. If we offer their uniforms in the future it will be this new one.
Shockingly expensive. I did read the 'about that price bit!'.
Not for me, regardless of my thoughts on the price it's great for TL to be offering them, hope you sell them all! And no doubt will make some fan boys or girls(?) out there happy.
On March 05 2014 21:17 disciple wrote: Just for the record, they told us about the new uniforms after we signed the contract about selling this shirt, thats why we said we wont be getting more from that model. If we offer their uniforms in the future it will be this new one.
Is there going to be a restock for the jerseys? I saw that Europe still has it but not in US which ships to most countries around the world and Europe store only ships to european countries.
On March 05 2014 21:02 prabhbhambra13 wrote: Well it seems like T1 have changed their sponsorship from Nike to New Balance which would explain the lack of Nike tick on the shirts.
It's a shame, I prefer the look of their Nike uniforms more.
The new ones look terrible, basically a plain white/grey raglan t-shirt with team and sponsor logos stitched in various places as if they were boy scout badges.
Don't have one without a filter because I take all my phone pictures through Instagram, but it's such a nice polo! So worth, couldn't be happier with it.
@Copymizer I'm 178cm and skinny too, I bought the S size for the SKT1 polo, and also for the TL protoss T-Shirt. And I'm a litle disapointed cause the SKT1 polo is a litle too big for me, where the TL t-shirt is ok. So I would recommand you ti get the S size .
And to TL, it seems like the sizes charts are not very accurate, since the S polo and the S t-shirt are not the same, when the charts says its 18" for both.
On March 12 2014 19:43 tamino wrote: @Copymizer I'm 178cm and skinny too, I bought the S size for the SKT1 polo, and also for the TL protoss T-Shirt. And I'm a litle disapointed cause the SKT1 polo is a litle too big for me, where the TL t-shirt is ok. So I would recommand you ti get the S size .
And to TL, it seems like the sizes charts are not very accurate, since the S polo and the S t-shirt are not the same, when the charts says its 18" for both.
Yea, got my M today and it is too big for a skinny guy like me.
On March 04 2014 04:58 DinoMight wrote: Just ordered mine. Price is a little steep but honestly something like a Nike golf polo is around $70. And this is soooo much cooler.
Huh, I go offline in TL for a couple of months and now I stumbled upon this and all the US ones are gone. Can someone be willing to be my middle man for europe and ship it to me in US? I'll be willing to pay shipping and the price of the jersey.
I can get base color t shirts for about 5$ from china. If you know where to get decent polo's for 5$ man you got to share where so the rest of us can get them.
The quality of the shirt looks pretty good, and I really believe it is. For me it's not too expensive, not at all. A normal polo shirt here costs the same as those.
Do they have Korean Size or is it kinda "normal"? Hope you understand what i mean, because i ordered my Prime Shirt in XL and its like M here in Europe. So i am not sure which size to buy...
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