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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
October 10 2011 13:45 GMT
#6261
On October 10 2011 21:02 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 20:27 Order wrote:
Hi. Would it be possible to get your consent to print stickers/posters/Tshirts with your logo? Of course we wouldn't do anything without permission and you would see all designs and have a say in the making process. But is it possible? We could later sell those to the community. We're not trying to make money here, it's more of a hobby thing.

Sorry, but we can't grant you permission to do that.


What about me?
AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2594 Posts
October 10 2011 14:20 GMT
#6262
On October 10 2011 22:45 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 21:02 Plexa wrote:
On October 10 2011 20:27 Order wrote:
Hi. Would it be possible to get your consent to print stickers/posters/Tshirts with your logo? Of course we wouldn't do anything without permission and you would see all designs and have a say in the making process. But is it possible? We could later sell those to the community. We're not trying to make money here, it's more of a hobby thing.

Sorry, but we can't grant you permission to do that.


What about me?

You can't grant him permission to do that, either
The frumious Bandersnatch
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 14:25:32
October 10 2011 14:25 GMT
#6263
On October 10 2011 23:20 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 22:45 JingleHell wrote:
On October 10 2011 21:02 Plexa wrote:
On October 10 2011 20:27 Order wrote:
Hi. Would it be possible to get your consent to print stickers/posters/Tshirts with your logo? Of course we wouldn't do anything without permission and you would see all designs and have a say in the making process. But is it possible? We could later sell those to the community. We're not trying to make money here, it's more of a hobby thing.

Sorry, but we can't grant you permission to do that.


What about me?

You can't grant him permission to do that, either


Damn.

Well played. GL in the finals.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
October 10 2011 18:18 GMT
#6264
On October 10 2011 19:15 SEA KarMa wrote:
how much income does the average person in TL earn per year (assuming that they are full time staff).


Nearly all TL positions are unpaid and entirely volunteer-based.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37076 Posts
October 10 2011 18:22 GMT
#6265
- -;;;;

I think we need a guideline for the LR threads. One that shows up immediately when someone makes a new account.

Looking at the ban list...... IPL has produced near 200+ bans in the course of what, 4 days? That's ridiculous.... It's very hard for newcomers to post on TL.... and I know we have all sorts of threads dedicated to helping them.

But it's the LR threads that kill em :/
With that being said, do we have a LR guideline thread?
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
impression
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
413 Posts
October 10 2011 18:27 GMT
#6266
If not Torte will make one! hehehe
행운을 빌어요 재미
AmericanUmlaut
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2594 Posts
October 10 2011 18:29 GMT
#6267
On October 11 2011 03:22 Seeker wrote:
- -;;;;

I think we need a guideline for the LR threads. One that shows up immediately when someone makes a new account.

Looking at the ban list...... IPL has produced near 200+ bans in the course of what, 4 days? That's ridiculous.... It's very hard for newcomers to post on TL.... and I know we have all sorts of threads dedicated to helping them.

But it's the LR threads that kill em :/
With that being said, do we have a LR guideline thread?

I don't really think TL needs a dedicated LR guideline thread. The people that get banned in the LR threads are doing crap that they know not to do if they've read the Ten Commandments thread.

The amount of nonsense that goes on in those threads really is painful, though. I've read a couple of people suggest that TL start drafting LR-thread banlings, and I kind of like the idea. I don't think I've ever read a LR thread where there weren't at least a few normal human beings posting, and if they could just play whack-a-mole in the LR threads it would free up the other mods to do less horrible things.
The frumious Bandersnatch
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37076 Posts
October 10 2011 18:31 GMT
#6268
On October 11 2011 03:29 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 03:22 Seeker wrote:
- -;;;;

I think we need a guideline for the LR threads. One that shows up immediately when someone makes a new account.

Looking at the ban list...... IPL has produced near 200+ bans in the course of what, 4 days? That's ridiculous.... It's very hard for newcomers to post on TL.... and I know we have all sorts of threads dedicated to helping them.

But it's the LR threads that kill em :/
With that being said, do we have a LR guideline thread?

I don't really think TL needs a dedicated LR guideline thread. The people that get banned in the LR threads are doing crap that they know not to do if they've read the Ten Commandments thread.

The amount of nonsense that goes on in those threads really is painful, though. I've read a couple of people suggest that TL start drafting LR-thread banlings, and I kind of like the idea. I don't think I've ever read a LR thread where there weren't at least a few normal human beings posting, and if they could just play whack-a-mole in the LR threads it would free up the other mods to do less horrible things.


Eh...... Idk about that....
What happens if that person or persons get the power to ban, and misuse it, or judges that a person should be banned incorrectly?

I like the idea, I just don't know about it.... it could lead to a disaster :/

I think a LR guide, while maybe not imperative, could be damn well useful, that's all I'm saying
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
October 10 2011 18:34 GMT
#6269
On October 11 2011 03:31 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 03:29 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
On October 11 2011 03:22 Seeker wrote:
- -;;;;

I think we need a guideline for the LR threads. One that shows up immediately when someone makes a new account.

Looking at the ban list...... IPL has produced near 200+ bans in the course of what, 4 days? That's ridiculous.... It's very hard for newcomers to post on TL.... and I know we have all sorts of threads dedicated to helping them.

But it's the LR threads that kill em :/
With that being said, do we have a LR guideline thread?

I don't really think TL needs a dedicated LR guideline thread. The people that get banned in the LR threads are doing crap that they know not to do if they've read the Ten Commandments thread.

The amount of nonsense that goes on in those threads really is painful, though. I've read a couple of people suggest that TL start drafting LR-thread banlings, and I kind of like the idea. I don't think I've ever read a LR thread where there weren't at least a few normal human beings posting, and if they could just play whack-a-mole in the LR threads it would free up the other mods to do less horrible things.


Eh...... Idk about that....
What happens if that person or persons get the power to ban, and misuse it, or judges that a person should be banned incorrectly?

I like the idea, I just don't know about it.... it could lead to a disaster :/

I think a LR guide, while maybe not imperative, could be damn well useful, that's all I'm saying


I'd guess if it got implemented in the state people are thinking, they'd only be able to hit people that got reported, only in LR threads, and only for x duration. Even if they all got sent for review, it would be less work for the full time mod staff.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
October 10 2011 18:36 GMT
#6270
On October 11 2011 03:31 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 03:29 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
On October 11 2011 03:22 Seeker wrote:
- -;;;;

I think we need a guideline for the LR threads. One that shows up immediately when someone makes a new account.

Looking at the ban list...... IPL has produced near 200+ bans in the course of what, 4 days? That's ridiculous.... It's very hard for newcomers to post on TL.... and I know we have all sorts of threads dedicated to helping them.

But it's the LR threads that kill em :/
With that being said, do we have a LR guideline thread?

I don't really think TL needs a dedicated LR guideline thread. The people that get banned in the LR threads are doing crap that they know not to do if they've read the Ten Commandments thread.

The amount of nonsense that goes on in those threads really is painful, though. I've read a couple of people suggest that TL start drafting LR-thread banlings, and I kind of like the idea. I don't think I've ever read a LR thread where there weren't at least a few normal human beings posting, and if they could just play whack-a-mole in the LR threads it would free up the other mods to do less horrible things.


Eh...... Idk about that....
What happens if that person or persons get the power to ban, and misuse it, or judges that a person should be banned incorrectly?

I like the idea, I just don't know about it.... it could lead to a disaster :/

I think a LR guide, while maybe not imperative, could be damn well useful, that's all I'm saying

LR Guide:
1.) Dont be a dick
2.) Dont caster bash
3.) Dont player bash
4.) Dont whine about lag/quality of the stream, especially if its free
5.) Dont whine about balance
6.) Dont insult other posters
7.) Avoid image macros
8.) If its been posted 10+ times in the thread already, its probably not a good idea to post it again
9.) Don't be a dick

Yeah, I don't think a guide is really necessary, its usually in a giant white box at the top of the thread by the time it hits page 100 or so anyway. I feel like people should just know better >.<

Moderator
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 10 2011 18:37 GMT
#6271
There is a guide line thread in the BW tournament section here -

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=103494

I didn't read the LR thread on the fourth day but looking at the ban list alone makes me pretty sad when you compare it to the BW LRs.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37076 Posts
October 10 2011 18:48 GMT
#6272
On October 11 2011 03:36 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 03:31 Seeker wrote:
On October 11 2011 03:29 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
On October 11 2011 03:22 Seeker wrote:
- -;;;;

I think we need a guideline for the LR threads. One that shows up immediately when someone makes a new account.

Looking at the ban list...... IPL has produced near 200+ bans in the course of what, 4 days? That's ridiculous.... It's very hard for newcomers to post on TL.... and I know we have all sorts of threads dedicated to helping them.

But it's the LR threads that kill em :/
With that being said, do we have a LR guideline thread?

I don't really think TL needs a dedicated LR guideline thread. The people that get banned in the LR threads are doing crap that they know not to do if they've read the Ten Commandments thread.

The amount of nonsense that goes on in those threads really is painful, though. I've read a couple of people suggest that TL start drafting LR-thread banlings, and I kind of like the idea. I don't think I've ever read a LR thread where there weren't at least a few normal human beings posting, and if they could just play whack-a-mole in the LR threads it would free up the other mods to do less horrible things.


Eh...... Idk about that....
What happens if that person or persons get the power to ban, and misuse it, or judges that a person should be banned incorrectly?

I like the idea, I just don't know about it.... it could lead to a disaster :/

I think a LR guide, while maybe not imperative, could be damn well useful, that's all I'm saying

LR Guide:
1.) Dont be a dick
2.) Dont caster bash
3.) Dont player bash
4.) Dont whine about lag/quality of the stream, especially if its free
5.) Dont whine about balance
6.) Dont insult other posters
7.) Avoid image macros
8.) If its been posted 10+ times in the thread already, its probably not a good idea to post it again
9.) Don't be a dick

Yeah, I don't think a guide is really necessary, its usually in a giant white box at the top of the thread by the time it hits page 100 or so anyway. I feel like people should just know better >.<



I like your 9 things you just listed.

I would probably take those 9 things, expand each one and make a guide.

Like I said before, a guide's not necessary but it doesn't hurt to have one either.

Anyways..... I would make the guide myself but unfotunately, being a computer illiterate, I have no idea how to make it all nice and organized like other guides.... and therefore it would just be a cluster of information unappealing to the audience :[
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 18:51:34
October 10 2011 18:51 GMT
#6273
I think the reasoning behind them is expanded on pretty well in the 10 Commandments. For all of those.

If people won't take the site rules to heart, they won't take thread rules either.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
October 10 2011 20:22 GMT
#6274
On October 11 2011 03:31 Seeker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 03:29 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
On October 11 2011 03:22 Seeker wrote:
- -;;;;

I think we need a guideline for the LR threads. One that shows up immediately when someone makes a new account.

Looking at the ban list...... IPL has produced near 200+ bans in the course of what, 4 days? That's ridiculous.... It's very hard for newcomers to post on TL.... and I know we have all sorts of threads dedicated to helping them.

But it's the LR threads that kill em :/
With that being said, do we have a LR guideline thread?

I don't really think TL needs a dedicated LR guideline thread. The people that get banned in the LR threads are doing crap that they know not to do if they've read the Ten Commandments thread.

The amount of nonsense that goes on in those threads really is painful, though. I've read a couple of people suggest that TL start drafting LR-thread banlings, and I kind of like the idea. I don't think I've ever read a LR thread where there weren't at least a few normal human beings posting, and if they could just play whack-a-mole in the LR threads it would free up the other mods to do less horrible things.


Eh...... Idk about that....
What happens if that person or persons get the power to ban, and misuse it, or judges that a person should be banned incorrectly?

I like the idea, I just don't know about it.... it could lead to a disaster :/

I think a LR guide, while maybe not imperative, could be damn well useful, that's all I'm saying


You think the idiots who get banned in the LR thread(apart from some exceptions) would read that guide?
WriterXiao8~~
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
October 10 2011 20:27 GMT
#6275
On October 11 2011 05:22 Kipsate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 03:31 Seeker wrote:
On October 11 2011 03:29 AmericanUmlaut wrote:
On October 11 2011 03:22 Seeker wrote:
- -;;;;

I think we need a guideline for the LR threads. One that shows up immediately when someone makes a new account.

Looking at the ban list...... IPL has produced near 200+ bans in the course of what, 4 days? That's ridiculous.... It's very hard for newcomers to post on TL.... and I know we have all sorts of threads dedicated to helping them.

But it's the LR threads that kill em :/
With that being said, do we have a LR guideline thread?

I don't really think TL needs a dedicated LR guideline thread. The people that get banned in the LR threads are doing crap that they know not to do if they've read the Ten Commandments thread.

The amount of nonsense that goes on in those threads really is painful, though. I've read a couple of people suggest that TL start drafting LR-thread banlings, and I kind of like the idea. I don't think I've ever read a LR thread where there weren't at least a few normal human beings posting, and if they could just play whack-a-mole in the LR threads it would free up the other mods to do less horrible things.


Eh...... Idk about that....
What happens if that person or persons get the power to ban, and misuse it, or judges that a person should be banned incorrectly?

I like the idea, I just don't know about it.... it could lead to a disaster :/

I think a LR guide, while maybe not imperative, could be damn well useful, that's all I'm saying


You think the idiots who get banned in the LR thread(apart from some exceptions) would read that guide?

Anyone that gets banned should be forced to read the guide and than pass a test so they can get their account unbanned after the ban time expires:D
Cackle™
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 20:36:26
October 10 2011 20:36 GMT
#6276
I've always thought of live report threads as any kind of party where people show up to watch a sporting event. Your neighborhood superbowl party for example. Or the world cup final.

You're there to be excited and cheer on your favorite players and teams, be happy if they win, and be sad if they don't. But if you went to a super bowl party and just spent the entire time criticizing the commentary, criticizing the coaching decisions, criticizing the dip, whining about calls that didn't go your way, then nobody is going to like you. Because you're being a dick and you're making it hard for other people to enjoy the game.

So treat a LR thread like you would an actual gathering of people. Don't be annoying. You won't get banned for posting a one liner in all caps if something awesome happens, but you will get banned for being an annoying prick.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
October 10 2011 20:44 GMT
#6277
The most consistently annoying thing for me about LR threads (this goes for everything from the average GSL Code S day to one-day extravaganzas) is that people apparently all have the idea that they are much more knowledgable and more skilled than the players themselves. They also tend to believe they have monopoly on the entirety of the SC2 scene, and have a unique and exceptional ability to look into players' minds and their decisions.

Basically, every one of these people are pro weight lifters that know more about SC2 and the scene (and eSports in general!) than anybody ever in the history of forever will ever know.

I'm glad i've kind of stopped posting a lot in LR's, even if the average GSL LR is much better than one-day events and the like, they're painful all the same
memes are a dish best served dank
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
October 10 2011 22:30 GMT
#6278
If not for those people, TT1 would have no jokes to make :p
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
October 11 2011 02:10 GMT
#6279
On October 11 2011 03:27 A_Bandersnatch wrote:
If not Torte will make one! hehehe


It was in the draft version based on Moonbear's "How to LR" guide, but 1. It didn't really fit because it put more emphasis on the sub-forum than others (which the SC2 Strategy section already does). and 2. The rules in LR are the same as the general rules on TL.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
StJuneZerg
Profile Joined April 2011
United States12 Posts
October 11 2011 02:26 GMT
#6280
How long should I keep my hopes up for the day when Idra will become a mod? Will it happen within days or possibly a few weeks?
Get huge and be somebody
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