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bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
October 09 2011 10:08 GMT
#6201
On October 09 2011 17:32 Probe1 wrote:
Anyway.
..

Does anyone on staff surf?

I want to say yes because i am Australian.

But sadly i do not
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
valheru
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia966 Posts
October 09 2011 10:17 GMT
#6202
On October 09 2011 19:08 bkrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 17:32 Probe1 wrote:
Anyway.
..

Does anyone on staff surf?

I want to say yes because i am Australian.

But sadly i do not


That's right represent the REAL Australia. The fat slovenly one that doesn't believe in global warming.
I reject your reality and substitute my own
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-09 10:25:45
October 09 2011 10:22 GMT
#6203
On October 09 2011 12:30 JingleHell wrote:
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On October 09 2011 12:25 Probe1 wrote:
5 out of 6 of my warnings were after long ass live report thread nights where I stayed up the next day and was so delirious I thought I was torte and could post that much without the quality going to shit.

Let this be a warning to all the kids. Don't post tired. Look twice save a life.


I usually get in trouble for forgetting to only be an asshole to people who asked for it. But I've been doing better lately. No moderation since my temp.

Aside from one post that i knew id be banned for, my only bans are people just flat asking for it. Usually when im in a really bad mood at that ><

On October 09 2011 05:03 Torte de Lini wrote:
Arb is the biggest mostly surviving asshole by a long shot. That guy says it straight to so many people haha :B <3

I just read this, and yeah i know its true too ><

I cant help but im flat blunt about everything

The fact i made it to this many posts amazes me
also;know im #1 at something.
FUCK YEAH
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
October 09 2011 11:15 GMT
#6204
Fun fact, of the 311 pages of posts in this thread - 16 pages of posts belong to torte.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
October 09 2011 11:18 GMT
#6205
On October 09 2011 20:15 Plexa wrote:
Fun fact, of the 311 pages of posts in this thread - 16 pages of posts belong to torte.

Shocker.
Cackle™
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
October 09 2011 11:28 GMT
#6206
On October 09 2011 20:15 Plexa wrote:
Fun fact, of the 311 pages of posts in this thread - 16 pages of posts belong to torte.


Jesus... I'm willing to bet most of those (and most of his PM's, for the record) are him explaining his post count regressing. At least we won't have that problem anymore.

Oh and btw, what's my post distribution look like?
memes are a dish best served dank
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50120 Posts
October 09 2011 11:44 GMT
#6207
On October 09 2011 20:15 Plexa wrote:
Fun fact, of the 311 pages of posts in this thread - 16 pages of posts belong to torte.


does that include the page of deleted comments between him and megalisk(u) as to why he kept answering questions ment for TL staff?
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
October 09 2011 12:27 GMT
#6208
That wasn't megalisku, that was Kiante.
WriterXiao8~~
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50120 Posts
October 09 2011 12:32 GMT
#6209
On October 09 2011 21:27 Kipsate wrote:
That wasn't megalisku, that was Kiante.


ah yeah, my bad.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-09 14:30:36
October 09 2011 14:23 GMT
#6210
On October 09 2011 17:03 Holy Check wrote:
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On October 09 2011 04:59 JingleHell wrote:
On October 09 2011 04:49 Holy Check wrote:
On October 09 2011 03:06 marttorn wrote:
On October 09 2011 02:58 Holy Check wrote:
Why always so quick with the warnings and bans? It's like half the topics on TL have at least one warning / ban every 3 pages. Needless to say most of them only make sense for the mods themselves.


I can't think of a single ban that I haven't understood, even my own ban I thought was very justified. It's very simple, don't post like a dick or do things like post memes, terrible one-liners etc.. and you won't get banned? As far as I understand anyway It's not really my role to answer questions like these, but I don't think the mods are ban-happy or anything, it's just that TL has some of the best moderation on the internet and will crack down fast and show people the consequences of their actions.

edit: Not to be an ass, really, but going through your recent posting I'm not surprised to see a temp and a warning >,< explains this post a bit more.



My posting is not the issue here, though I will more than gladly talk about it via PM. Some of my bans were justified, some were overeager, some were overextended and some had lackluster justification. I agree that my views on moderation are more on the lenient side, but I have been lurking for the past ~3 years just because I felt TL had a certain fascist allure.
Sure, as long as everyone shared the same opinion, was exceedingly polite, jovial and politically correct, things were fine. But express an opinion without sugar coating it and making sure no one on the Internet will get their e-feelings slightly hurt, and you will get smacked in the face. And once you get smacked once, you are a troll and every post you make is a flame.


This is a load of shit. I'm TL's biggest mostly surviving asshole. It's not about being blunt or direct, or any of that. It's about timing, and whether you're escalating a situation or responding reasonably. I'm at just over 0.1% moderated posts, and a lot of mine are way harsher than yours. I just do it better. Learn how to attack the post instead of the poster, avoid ad hominem attacks, and don't insult the mentally handicapped by calling morons retarded.

Your posting IS the issue here, because other people do it different and don't get in trouble.

Out of curiosity, if your posting isn't the issue, who's posting is getting you moderated incessantly so that you feel the need to complain about it?

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See that's the problem. I don't want to have to take particular care of how my post comes out. As long as I am expressing a valid opinion and I'm not insulting someone directly, everything should be fine.

And that ad hominem attack is the biggest bullshit ever. Half the bans are given behind that facade. What is an ad hominem attack? How can you attack the post without attacking / implying an attack on the poster? If you say a post is superficial for example, doesn't that automatically mean that the poster is kinda superficial? One of my bans was because I said someone's memory doesn't serve him right. How is that ad hominem enough to justify a ban?

As I said, my posting alone is not the issue, but it might be the reason for this discussion. I have been surfing TL for a long time and every day I used to see people getting warned or banned for the most inoffensive posts. Not to mention mods having the time and resources to actually track down and ban people who just make a random post on huge 3 pages an hour topics. Which gave me the impression that the manpower and resources dedicated to this cause is well beyond overkill.

I don't have the ~6-8 hours to make a comprehensive collection of all the bans I consider gratuitous, but keep an eye out for it when surfing TL and you might notice it too.


You don't want to have to make sure you talk in a certain way? Welcome to this weird little thing we call the real world. You're always going to have to watch what you say to a certain extent, with the specifics depending on where you are. Keeping your words in check is part of life, tough shit. As for what's acceptable on TL and what isn't, if you disagree with the moderation policy, make your own site, with it's own rules, and watch it promptly turn into an unmoderated shitfest that nobody worth a damn visits.

An ad hominem attack, since you asked, is attacking a person to discredit their argument. Example: If you're so stupid you don't even know what an ad hominem attack is, you don't have the brains to understand why TL moderates so heavily. See that? It's bad debating, and non-contributory. I didn't provide you with any rational argument, I just insulted you to try and make your complaint look bad. That's not how adults (are supposed to) talk.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=240225&currentpage=54#1076
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Herp Derp.

I wish reddit and the Internet itself was more like TL: uptight mods with carrots up their asses, harsh warnings and bans all over the place, everyone considered a troll and every post considered flame



http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=263411#14
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I hope I don't get banned for this
Combined with incessant country bashing and stereotyping.

And calling a large group of people "retarded". Don't insult the mentally handicapped by lumping them with people you dislike as a placeholder for debate.

Your two bans. Neither of those is for saying someone's memory didn't serve him right.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-09 17:33:32
October 09 2011 17:31 GMT
#6211
On October 09 2011 20:15 Plexa wrote:
Fun fact, of the 311 pages of posts in this thread - 16 pages of posts belong to torte.



wannabe staff imo.

Talked about me or of me posting?

On October 09 2011 20:28 marttorn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 20:15 Plexa wrote:
Fun fact, of the 311 pages of posts in this thread - 16 pages of posts belong to torte.


Jesus... I'm willing to bet most of those (and most of his PM's, for the record) are him explaining his post count regressing. At least we won't have that problem anymore.

Oh and btw, what's my post distribution look like?



My explanation was: ask staff.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
October 09 2011 17:33 GMT
#6212
On October 10 2011 02:31 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 20:15 Plexa wrote:
Fun fact, of the 311 pages of posts in this thread - 16 pages of posts belong to torte.



wanna be staff imo


You aren't? I thought you were the staff posting stress tester...
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
October 09 2011 17:35 GMT
#6213
I'm an advocator to have CA get a staff icon.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-09 17:57:27
October 09 2011 17:57 GMT
#6214
On October 09 2011 20:15 Plexa wrote:
Fun fact, of the 311 pages of posts in this thread - 16 pages of posts belong to torte.

Any plans on implementing the "filter" button on the regular forums soon?

EDIT: For regular users.
you gotta dance
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21242 Posts
October 09 2011 18:11 GMT
#6215
On October 09 2011 20:15 Plexa wrote:
Fun fact, of the 311 pages of posts in this thread - 16 pages of posts belong to torte.

Only? O.O surprising...
TranslatorBaa!
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-09 18:39:47
October 09 2011 18:38 GMT
#6216
CA deserves icon.


On October 09 2011 18:07 zatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 17:32 Probe1 wrote:
Anyway.
..

Does anyone on staff surf?

I started to teach myself windsurfing a long time ago. I was sick fun and I would definitely continue but I don't live exactly near to the ocean and haven't been on a real beach vacation in years.

zatic you have immediately gone from "I guess he's cool, obv he does a lot for the website directly, skip jail and Go, collect $1000 to the I'm badass tile.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
October 09 2011 19:02 GMT
#6217
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=273600#1

how is this only a warning??
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-09 19:08:28
October 09 2011 19:04 GMT
#6218
On October 10 2011 04:02 dAPhREAk wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=273600#1

how is this only a warning??


My guess would be because it's at least criticizing specific well documented behavior, even if he did a shitty job of wording it. But I was wondering the same, TBH.

No longer pure bashing when he's at least talking about something that can be reasonably argued against.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-09 19:04:36
October 09 2011 19:04 GMT
#6219
Staff wants to see if he can truly kick his ass.
Obviously :B
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Ares[Effort] *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
DEMACIA6550 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-09 19:35:57
October 09 2011 19:09 GMT
#6220
On October 10 2011 04:02 dAPhREAk wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=273600#1

how is this only a warning??

he is banned now ♥ ett
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