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unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
August 02 2010 17:06 GMT
#1941
wait, what do i need dumbbells for??

you're losing grip before strength hmmm... deadlifts?
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
August 02 2010 18:27 GMT
#1942
On August 03 2010 00:59 unknown.sam wrote:
@kainzero: why don't you just do dips eh??

because i'm doing SS, and DB Bench seems like a suitable replacement for BB bench... not so much dips..
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
August 02 2010 20:16 GMT
#1943
Started doing the SS practical programming today and it feels great 65 kg on squats, with more weights my back started arching. 50 kg bench press, I felt like I could have used more weights but my wrist started hurting if I added more so I kept using 50 kg. But I couldn't do a single chinup so I had to do some rack chins but I felt like I was working out my arms and not my lats :/ I'm probably doing something wrong.

I have some questions tho.. I am trying yo lose some fat and my basal metabolic rate is around 2k calories/day. How much should I eat when I'm working out? Before my activity level wasn't high at all so 2k calories would keep me weight, should I eat more when I'm working out?

Also, I have some protein powder and BCAAs, how should I use them and how much should I take?
st3roids
Profile Joined June 2010
Greece538 Posts
August 02 2010 20:24 GMT
#1944
Bcaas ... another scam imo not that it hurts but meh every good protein nowdays is full with them.

Loosing fat, cycle ur carb intake couple of days with low carbs around 50 g a day one moderate and a load day.

If u cant do this eat around 40/45% protein around 20% carbs rest fats .
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20022 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-02 21:22:45
August 02 2010 21:21 GMT
#1945
On August 03 2010 05:16 Necosarius wrote:
Started doing the SS practical programming today and it feels great 65 kg on squats, with more weights my back started arching. 50 kg bench press, I felt like I could have used more weights but my wrist started hurting if I added more so I kept using 50 kg. But I couldn't do a single chinup so I had to do some rack chins but I felt like I was working out my arms and not my lats :/ I'm probably doing something wrong.

I have some questions tho.. I am trying yo lose some fat and my basal metabolic rate is around 2k calories/day. How much should I eat when I'm working out? Before my activity level wasn't high at all so 2k calories would keep me weight, should I eat more when I'm working out?

Also, I have some protein powder and BCAAs, how should I use them and how much should I take?


Multiply your weight * 13-15 calories for weight loss, but have more than that on training days. Focus on healthy proteins and fats and cut out any unneeded carbs.

I usually have a protein shake before/after i work out.

For your pull ups, i usually do a wider grip to work out my back more. Also with your hands facing you(supinated grip i believe?) you will hit your biceps harder than the other way.


On August 03 2010 00:59 unknown.sam wrote:
@kainzero: why don't you just do dips eh??


Have you ever tried to do dips with a shoulder injury? T_T
They still bug me sometimes half a year afterwards
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
mOnion
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5657 Posts
August 02 2010 21:37 GMT
#1946
what do I do once one of my lifts plateau's as far as SS?

my bench is doneskies. T_T shitty day
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JunZ
Profile Joined June 2010
United States314 Posts
August 02 2010 22:03 GMT
#1947
You need dumbbells because one arm is stronger than the other. Use dumbbells to equalize.
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
August 02 2010 22:27 GMT
#1948
On August 03 2010 05:24 st3roids wrote:
Bcaas ... another scam imo not that it hurts but meh every good protein nowdays is full with them.

Loosing fat, cycle ur carb intake couple of days with low carbs around 50 g a day one moderate and a load day.

If u cant do this eat around 40/45% protein around 20% carbs rest fats .


Yeah I was planning on doing this.

On August 03 2010 06:21 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 05:16 Necosarius wrote:
Started doing the SS practical programming today and it feels great 65 kg on squats, with more weights my back started arching. 50 kg bench press, I felt like I could have used more weights but my wrist started hurting if I added more so I kept using 50 kg. But I couldn't do a single chinup so I had to do some rack chins but I felt like I was working out my arms and not my lats :/ I'm probably doing something wrong.

I have some questions tho.. I am trying yo lose some fat and my basal metabolic rate is around 2k calories/day. How much should I eat when I'm working out? Before my activity level wasn't high at all so 2k calories would keep me weight, should I eat more when I'm working out?

Also, I have some protein powder and BCAAs, how should I use them and how much should I take?


Multiply your weight * 13-15 calories for weight loss, but have more than that on training days. Focus on healthy proteins and fats and cut out any unneeded carbs.

I usually have a protein shake before/after i work out.

For your pull ups, i usually do a wider grip to work out my back more. Also with your hands facing you(supinated grip i believe?) you will hit your biceps harder than the other way.


My weight in kg or pounds? I sure hope pounds

Yeah chinups is palms facing you, I will try pullups on friday but will probably not be able to do one, I weight too much
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
August 02 2010 22:29 GMT
#1949
On August 01 2010 00:43 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2010 21:05 Energies wrote:
I'm 4 weeks off new personal best lifts in SS. The anticipation is killing me, I shouldn't have started with such freakin' low weights.


It's better to start too low than too high. Although feel free to make 10-15 lbs jumps if you can...

With the lower weights really focus on technique and drive with your movements.

Show nested quote +
On July 31 2010 22:50 NeverGG wrote:
-_- I'm 7kg off my goal (65kg/5'11 Is it feasible to go down to 60kg or even 55kg or am I being a bit unrealistic?) and I'm having problems shifting the weight. Does anyone have an suggestions for how to crack this last few kg? I've been doing as much added walking as possible (running is not an option sadly due to my current injuries and breathing issues.) I've also been using my weights (about 100 reps a night), but I don't feel like it's enough.

I have more than enough time after work to do online work outs (I'm too self-conscious to use a gym.) and I can access loads of healthy foods (my portion sizes are pretty small now, but I need to work on the 5-6 small meals a day thing.) I've stopped eating after 7:30pm and am getting more sleep (6-7hours as opposed to 4-5.)

Also my skin has gone to hell :/ I think that's partially due to the hot weather though.

Cheers for any help in advance.


Even though yuo say you don't want muscle you're not going to become "manly" overnight. WOmen have loewr testosterone levels than me so it's harder for them to add muscle... but the muscle you do add helps significantly in changing of body composition.


ROAR MANSHLOW
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20022 Posts
August 03 2010 00:14 GMT
#1950
Tried out some of my friends jack3d today...got me pretty pumped for like 30 minutes and then died out. I'll probably just stick to coffee.
Anyways, i got all really good squat reps at 10x205 8x325 6x350 4x375 2x410 then failed twice on 1x425 and was pretty upset...i dont know if i'll be able to max out 450 on friday I'll try 440 first then 450. Benched again today, my wrist is still being a useless piece of junk but i managed to do 10x95,115,135,145,155 and my weak ass chest was pretty tired by then.
Made up for failing on squats by killing myself on intervals, i was still doing top speed sprints on my 5th one and by then i felt like vomiting so i called it a day. Rugby can't possibly come fast enough...2 more weeks till i can try running over and past everyone whee (while still being a team player of course)
/end ramble

@mOnion:
Switch it up from 5x5, you can try the charts i posted a couple weeks ago which start off at 5x10 then go to sets of 8, 6, 4, 2, 1, max. Pretty much anything to shock your muscles out of stagnation.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
August 03 2010 00:19 GMT
#1951
decaf do you ever try taping up your wrists? that might help with the wrist pain.


btw would it be a good idea to keep ice on my hand when I lift?
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20022 Posts
August 03 2010 00:25 GMT
#1952
On August 03 2010 09:19 AoN.DimSum wrote:
decaf do you ever try taping up your wrists? that might help with the wrist pain.


btw would it be a good idea to keep ice on my hand when I lift?


I dont have any tape/am too lazy to go get some. I was really hoping to find some wrist wraps at the gym but alas i think they all got stolen/put into storage or something because they had a ton of them a couple years ago.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 01:56:52
August 03 2010 01:31 GMT
#1953
On August 03 2010 06:37 mOnion wrote:
what do I do once one of my lifts plateau's as far as SS?

my bench is doneskies. T_T shitty day

if you've failed on the same weight for 3 succeeding sessions it's probably time to reset (assuming form is in check).

take off 10-15% off the weight you failed at then work your way up again. read the below link if you want it in more detail.

http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ:The_Program#Stalling.2C_Resetting_and_Progressing
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4728 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 22:19:28
August 03 2010 22:18 GMT
#1954
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I was ill for 5 days last week
My training has been pretty disturbed the last few weeks (unfortunately not only because of my illness)
I am eating like shit since a couple of weeks. Jesus, there have been a couple of days lately where I have eaten nothing but french fries, ice cream and coke.
I am under so much stress lately, I have a new job, I need a new flat, I am just a mess.

Worked for quite a while, but now I finally paid for it. I couldn't squat 5x150x3 today, not even close. That's normally not even challenging for me.

Time for a change now. I will have to figure out the whole job and room thing, should be done two weeks from now. Then I will just start a SS cycle for 4-6 weeks starting with really easy weights and build up a solid foundation again. Afterwards I will just start another 5x5 cycle, I need direction, training without a plan is the worst thing ever.


Well, on a positive note, although living horribly the last weeks I have lost some weight again. I was at my parents for 2-3 weeks and although I ate all this crap it seems I just ate less than normally (that's actually nearly always the case. Since I'm like 12 I always lose weight when I am on some kind of holidays, I just eat less frequently then).

Also, since I have started serious progression with Chin ups, my biceps just exploded. I am still a very big guy and that makes it hard to tell how my muscle development is, since there is fat all around. But my arms just look huge now, the difference is scary. Btw, I haven't done Curls in months. Just Chin-Ups and BO-Rows with supinated grip, which is basically half a Curl with 3x the weight of a normal Curl. Good stuff. I am quite curious what happens to my arms when I'm finally training right again.

So although everything is quite messed up right now, it's still alright


That's 1000. I'm a Guardian now, woho.

"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
unknown.sam
Profile Joined May 2007
Philippines2701 Posts
August 04 2010 16:37 GMT
#1955
@malinor: dude that sucks. gud luck with your getting back up to speed. i'm kinda sick myself, but hopefully it will stay mild (i've been experiencing flu like symptoms lately).

anyway i decided to screw around in the gym for a change and tried out benching instead of my usual dips. i just find it annoying when people find out i'm training to get stronger and they ask me that cliche question, "what do you bench?" and i can't answer because i've never benched before. so i thought i'd put an end to all of that nonsense.

i quickly found out benching isn't as easy as it looks. even just balancing an empty bar at lock out was kinda difficult lol (i should have the form down for bench within the next 2 sessions tho). eventually i got bored practicing with the empty bar so i decided to add a few plates. to my surprise i was able to bench a lot more than i expected. i'm quite close to benching my own bw, maybe a month away (which i really find hard to believe). i guess there was a lot of carry over from doing dips. good ol dips!

i just hope the ton of volume (i think i did like 10 sets total on bench press) today won't screw up my progress too much.
"Thanks for the kind words, but if SS is the most interesting book you've ever read, you must have just started reading a couple of weeks ago." - Mark Rippetoe
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
August 04 2010 18:45 GMT
#1956
Hey everyone, I figure it's time I got involved in this.

Alexandra Isbister

Age: 23 || Height: 5'6" || Weight: about 155 lbs

Starting date: Last Sunday! Whooo! Goal Date: Whenever

Weight Goals: I'd say 135 lbs or so.

Training Goals: I just want to be in better shape. I'm a nerd, and I spend most of my time sitting on my ass in front of a computer. I was on the crew team in highschool, and back then I weighed about 130 and could run 5 miles without resting. Now I doubt I could make it half a mile, LOL.

Nutrition goals: I want to eat less. Preferably eat more healthy. I've been getting good about this, but every now and then the munchies get me and I find myself pigging out on candy.

Misc Goals: Be awesome at stuff.

Random explanations: So growing up I always had the fastest metabolism in the world. I could eat whatever I wanted in whatever quantities I wanted, and never gain an ounce. In recent years, that's changed.

Now I don't look like I weigh as much as I do. When people guess my weight, they usually undershoot by anywhere from 15-35 pounds. I don't know if they're just trying to be polite, but I do look like I'm in much better shape than I am. I think my bones are made of lead or something.

Anyway, so my exercise of choice is Dagorhir. Fighting with padded weapons. Holy shit what a workout. Running around on a field for 3 hours at a time swinging heavy swords and getting beaten on by a bunch of guys much bigger than me. Loads of fun. After practice each week I'm usually sore for the next like 3 days. And not just sore, but like, struggling to make it down a staircase sore. But it's a blast, and I love each and every practice, which means I'll actually stick with it.

So... I guess I'll post updates and such! Wish me luck, folks!
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
JunZ
Profile Joined June 2010
United States314 Posts
August 04 2010 18:55 GMT
#1957
Good luck Alex. Start eating often, probably 4-5 times a day. Is weight loss your only goal or would you like to be more toned?
yubee
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States3826 Posts
August 04 2010 19:19 GMT
#1958
hey guys. i've been doing GOMAD and SS practical programming for a little over a week now, and i've hit a minor roadblock. i'm a real noob in the gym so i'm not 100% certain, but i've never seen anybody doing deadlifts and i'm not even sure if the gym has DLs at all... so... what do i do? there's a squat rack and bench press and dumbbells but it's also a lot of Hammer Strength machines.

i saw these guys doing this one where they kind of straddle this one giant weight and lift that up from a squatting position but i'm not sure if that's even the same idea... halp
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
August 04 2010 19:30 GMT
#1959
On August 05 2010 03:55 JunZ wrote:
Good luck Alex. Start eating often, probably 4-5 times a day. Is weight loss your only goal or would you like to be more toned?


Hmmm... I guess mostly I want to lose weight, toning would be nice, but I'm mainly focused on weight and endurance. I get winded far too easily right now, and I'd like to be able to finish up a battle with the same energy that I started it with! Rawr!
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
JunZ
Profile Joined June 2010
United States314 Posts
August 04 2010 20:00 GMT
#1960
Try powerwalking or walking on a treadmill on a incline to start. Then move onto interval training when you feel its getting too easy. Sprint 2 minutes, walk 2 minutes, then repeat. You can try running/jogging for 5 minutes but it doesn't burn as much fat as the sprint.
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